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 I need to regrout my bathtub/shower. Any tips? 
#12703148 - 06/07/10 03:45 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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I just bought my first home a few weeks ago and have been hard at work trying to get it ready to move in. During the inspection, my inspector found a Jerry-rigged repair on the upstairs bathtub drain catch. I replaced the catch, and after taking a shower, noticed more water that seems to be coming from the floor around the tub. The grout in the shower tile has some gaps, so I am guessing that the water is leaking through that way. Does anyone have a nice link to a step by step DIY guide to re-grouting tile?
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Re: I need to regrout my bathtub/shower. Any tips? [Re: Happy2fly]
#12707372 - 06/08/10 07:19 AM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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It's not too complicated. You need to scrape out the old grout, and then put new grout in. You just smear it in the cracks and wipe off the excess. You can buy little tools to make the job easier. Make sure you use waterproof grout. I'd also suggest using silicone sealant between the tub and the tiles.
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Re: I need to regrout my bathtub/shower. Any tips? [Re: mm.]
#12707761 - 06/08/10 10:29 AM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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I went to Menards yesterday, and they hooked me up with everything I need. The lady that was helping me tried to sell me one of those scraper tools, but they were sold out. Can I just use a screwdriver or something to scrape the old grout?
Also, my dad told me it was a one hour job, but the lady at Menards told me to expect a days work just removing the old grout. How much do I need to remove? I thought I just needed to get rid of the loose stuff..
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Re: I need to regrout my bathtub/shower. Any tips? [Re: Happy2fly]
#12707784 - 06/08/10 10:37 AM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Sure you can use a screwdriver. How long it will take depends on how big your shower is. Make a start and you'll soon get an idea.
You could just regrout the loose stuff, but if that is old and in poor condition, you can expect the rest of the grout to be in a bad way too. It might be best to redo all of it otherwise water will get behind the tiles and run down the wall - you'll have more leaks and the tiles might start to fall off. It really depends on how much you care and if you plan to retile it in the future anyway.
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Re: I need to regrout my bathtub/shower. Any tips? [Re: mm.]
#12707923 - 06/08/10 11:14 AM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Anything worth doing is worth doing right. I guess if it's an all day job, I better run over to Home Depot (or as the lady at Menards called it, "The orange place") and get one of those grout saws. If it saves me an hour, it's worth the $10 to me.
Thanks for the advice!
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Re: I need to regrout my bathtub/shower. Any tips? [Re: Happy2fly]
#12710778 - 06/08/10 07:50 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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if water is leaking through to the floor then the real issue isnt the
grout, it's the shower liner, under the tile, thinset and oftern times
some mortar or cement... the liner is supposed to direct all the water into
the drain because most grouts remain porous
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Re: I need to regrout my bathtub/shower. Any tips? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#12714055 - 06/09/10 11:05 AM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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The shower has a bathtub for directing the water into the drain. I think the water is leaking through the tile walls where there are gaps in the grout. The water is coming through the floor under the tub, and drips into a bedroom closet that is located directly under the upstairs bathroom.
There is not nearly as much water leaking since the trap has been fixed. Just about a quarter sized spot on the floor of the downstairs closet after a 5 minute shower.
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Re: I need to regrout my bathtub/shower. Any tips? [Re: Happy2fly]
#12715420 - 06/09/10 04:41 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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For smoothing it out, I'd recommend a wet finger over one of those plastic spreaders, works great. Just dip your finger in some water and smooth it out. Also make sure its completely dry when you start, and before you use your shower.
Good luck
Oh and I'd say its a 2-3 hour job, not all day.
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Re: I need to regrout my bathtub/shower. Any tips? [Re: Happy2fly]
#12717165 - 06/09/10 10:43 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
Happy2fly said:
The shower has a bathtub for directing the water into the drain. I think the water is leaking through the tile walls where there are gaps in the grout.
it sounds like the issue is more of a caulking one than grout, if it's the
seal between the tub and shower, invest in a bottle opener with a pointed
end and a caulk gun and caulk... about $12 and an hour of work scraping out
the old and putting in new
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Re: I need to regrout my bathtub/shower. Any tips? [Re: poppin123]
#12719531 - 06/10/10 10:51 AM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:
Happy2fly said:
The shower has a bathtub for directing the water into the drain. I think the water is leaking through the tile walls where there are gaps in the grout.
it sounds like the issue is more of a caulking one than grout, if it's the
seal between the tub and shower, invest in a bottle opener with a pointed
end and a caulk gun and caulk... about $12 and an hour of work scraping out
the old and putting in new
I was going to re-caulk the tub after fixing the grout, to make sure I sealed up every possible leak. It looks like the previous owners used a big bead of grout to seal the tub. It's definitely not silicone. Is that normal? What's the best way to remove it?
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poppin123 said:
For smoothing it out, I'd recommend a wet finger over one of those plastic spreaders, works great. Just dip your finger in some water and smooth it out. Also make sure its completely dry when you start, and before you use your shower.
Good luck
Oh and I'd say its a 2-3 hour job, not all day.
Thanks for the tip! 
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Re: I need to regrout my bathtub/shower. Any tips? [Re: Happy2fly]
#12721763 - 06/10/10 07:02 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
Happy2fly said:
It looks like the previous owners used a big bead of grout to seal the tub. It's definitely not silicone. Is that normal? What's the best way to remove it?
best tool for removing caulk
most people dont use silicone in the bath, they use tub and shower crap,
I'm partial to polyurethane because it's not subject tot he same
problems other caulks are, you wont ever have to re caulk but if you
ever decide you wanted to, you will be replacing tiles too because the
urethane wont be letting go
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Re: I need to regrout my bathtub/shower. Any tips? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#12942034 - 07/23/10 06:54 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
Prisoner#1 said:
if water is leaking through to the floor then the real issue isn't the
grout, it's the shower liner, under the tile, thinset and oftern times
some mortar or cement... the liner is supposed to direct all the water into
the drain because most grouts remain porous
ok. well first if theres a leak going from directly under from where the shower is and drain its bigger then just the grout. like prisoner said theres a liner under the shower protecting water from leaking out. now either the the liner MIGHT have a crack or leak but its probably the drain above it. could possibly be a leak in the pipes or the caulking around the tub it all varies on the situation. and also if your trying to remove grout the SAFEST is to take a flathead screwdriver and a hammer. and its gonna take a bit time to do. hopefully this was helpful for you.
Edited by swope (07/23/10 06:56 PM)
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Re: I need to re-grout my bathtub/shower. Any tips? [Re: swope]
#12961521 - 07/27/10 03:38 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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I did tile for almost 6 years. The best way to re-grout is to get a box cutter (get extra blades, they will get dull fast) and SLOWLY AND DELICATELY remove the old grout or caulking by just cutting into it over and over until it's gone. Get your sanded or non-sanded grout and caulking. Mix it and apply it with a grouting trowel (make sure you get one that isn't metal, it's NOT meant for grouting and you'll just f*** up your tile. You scoop up some grout onto the trowel and smear it over the tile in a crescent moon like motion. Once everything has been grouted, make sure you get some large clean sponges and gently clean wash everything. Repeat the process several times, the objective is to get all the grout off of the tile, but not out of the spaces you've just grouted. Then caulk all the corners and all surfaces where the tile meets the tub. If you have any other questions feel free to message me.
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Re: I need to regrout my bathtub/shower. Any tips? [Re: Happy2fly]
#12961724 - 07/27/10 04:17 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Happy2fly said:
I just bought my first home a few weeks ago and have been hard at work trying to get it ready to move in. During the inspection, my inspector found a Jerry-rigged repair on the upstairs bathtub drain catch. I replaced the catch, and after taking a shower, noticed more water that seems to be coming from the floor around the tub. The grout in the shower tile has some gaps, so I am guessing that the water is leaking through that way. Does anyone have a nice link to a step by step DIY guide to re-grouting tile?
take a grout saw or a dremel and scrape/cut the old grout out, mix grout in bucket, apply with grout float, sponge wipe smooth with a couple different changes of water, let dry for a day, take brillo pad and scrub grout residue off of tiles, seal grout.
voila.
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Re: I need to re-grout my bathtub/shower. Any tips? [Re: Slayer84092]
#12981874 - 07/31/10 07:18 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Slayer84092 said:
I did tile for almost 6 years. Mix it and apply it with a grouting trowel (make sure you get one that isn't metal, it's NOT meant for grouting and you'll just f*** up your tile.
it's called a rubber or grout float
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Re: I need to re-grout my bathtub/shower. Any tips? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#12983366 - 08/01/10 01:34 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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lmao, a mexican thats only done it for 6 months and cannot speak english knows its called a float.
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Re: I need to re-grout my bathtub/shower. Any tips? [Re: LeftyBurnz]
#13013411 - 08/06/10 06:41 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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I was just thinking 'isnt that called a float' as I was reading he was probably just having a brain fart moment. Like Lefty said you don't need to wash it completely off, there is always some residue let it dry and clean off that haze with some steel wool. Too much just pulls out the grout you put in. Other than that its easier than you think just give it a go, best of luck.
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Re: I need to re-grout my bathtub/shower. Any tips? [Re: Creepy John]
#13013506 - 08/06/10 07:00 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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NO. green brillo, not steel wool.
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Re: I need to re-grout my bathtub/shower. Any tips? [Re: LeftyBurnz]
#13013553 - 08/06/10 07:07 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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I've never had a problem with steel wool, you shouldn't be pushing on it hard enough to scratch the glaze, if that's the case. Doesn't take that much elbow grease to get it off but to each his own I guess. If it makes a difference I use 'fine' steel wool not those coarse steel scouring pads.
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Re: I need to re-grout my bathtub/shower. Any tips? [Re: Creepy John]
#13013616 - 08/06/10 07:21 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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hmm. i wouldnt risk it on my tile, the green scour pads havent ever done me wrong.
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Re: I need to re-grout my bathtub/shower. Any tips? [Re: LeftyBurnz]
#13013734 - 08/06/10 07:46 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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0000 steel wool is fine, the scotchbrite pads are actually more prone to
scratching glass, I use brillo pads to clean my windshield on my car, it
takes everything off and doesnt scratch, it's fine for tile
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Re: I need to re-grout my bathtub/shower. Any tips? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#13013771 - 08/06/10 07:53 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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well if prissy says its ok then go ahead.
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