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Anonymous #1

Why are people being assholes over this?
    #12538160 - 05/10/10 06:37 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

So, I'll start off by saying I used to work normal service/desk jobs (and hated most of them) until the economy got bad and I couldn't find any work for several months. Out of desperation, I stopped looking for a job and started doing freelance work to survive, everything from writing technical articles to cleaning houses to selling stuff online. Eventually, I found an oppurtunity that turned into a stable source of income and decided to build it up as a small business.

There are a lot of negative things about working from home that I was prepared for, such as having to work extra hard yet still make do with less, or higher chances of getting audited and harassed by the IRS. But the one thing that blindsided me was people's open hostility once they find out what I do.

My type of work is completely legal and not offensive in the least, so I can't make sense of it. And I know I shouldn't care what people think, but it still hurts when they call me lazy and tell me to get a "real" job, or ask when I'm going to start looking for normal work again. Since when does sitting in a fucking office all day and typing up meaningless documents constitute real work anyway? One of the things I like best about what I'm doing is getting paid for doing actual physical work as opposed to the number of hours I'm at a particular place. I also love being able to do part of the work outside and that it feels like I'm doing something meaningful as opposed to just a dead end source of income. Why would anyone look down on someone else for that? Isn't that what everyone wants with their life?

The most I can come up with is that people are just culturally brainwashed to look down on anyone that's different than the statistical norm. And that makes me extremely depressed when I think about my future here.


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Anonymous #2

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12538196 - 05/10/10 06:42 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Nothing wrong with working from home... What're you doing?


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Anonymous #3

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #12538242 - 05/10/10 06:49 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #2 said:
Nothing wrong with working from home... What're you doing?




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Anonymous #4

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12538355 - 05/10/10 07:06 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

FUCK THOSE PEOPLE.

You got your own business, you say its legal and nonoffensive, you make your own buck, fuck em.

If you send spam email you should be spit roasted between two dripping aids dicks of course, but if its respectable work you do, fuck them and their envy.

Work at home, no boss, rake in the dough, who wouldnt want that?


Edited by Anonymous (05/10/10 07:07 PM)


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Anonymous #5

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #12538434 - 05/10/10 07:16 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #3 said:
Quote:

Anonymous #2 said:
Nothing wrong with working from home... What're you doing?







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Anonymous #6

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12538449 - 05/10/10 07:19 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

People always have a tendency to think they're in some position to tell other people what to do or think.  Those people are called fucking idiots.


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Anonymous #7

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12538944 - 05/10/10 08:34 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:

The most I can come up with is that people are just culturally brainwashed to look down on anyone that's different than the statistical norm. And that makes me extremely depressed when I think about my future here.





this is pretty true, but on the same note the people who do not fill the usual status quo can be quite successful. 



but what are you doing at home?  i would love to get into a legit work from home deal.


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Anonymous #8

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #6]
    #12539461 - 05/10/10 09:49 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #6 said:
People always have a tendency to think they're in some position to tell other people what to do or think.  Those people are called fucking idiots.




:thumbup:


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Anonymous #9

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12540822 - 05/11/10 01:35 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

They're just jealous that you're chilling at home in your casual clothes while they have to get up every morning, put on clothes they dislike, commute to work and be told whatever work they do accomplish is good but not as good as it could be.


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Anonymous #10

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12541484 - 05/11/10 05:55 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
So, I'll start off by saying I used to work normal service/desk jobs (and hated most of them) until the economy got bad and I couldn't find any work for several months. Out of desperation, I stopped looking for a job and started doing freelance work to survive, everything from writing technical articles to cleaning houses to selling stuff online. Eventually, I found an oppurtunity that turned into a stable source of income and decided to build it up as a small business.

There are a lot of negative things about working from home that I was prepared for, such as having to work extra hard yet still make do with less, or higher chances of getting audited and harassed by the IRS. But the one thing that blindsided me was people's open hostility once they find out what I do.

My type of work is completely legal and not offensive in the least, so I can't make sense of it. And I know I shouldn't care what people think, but it still hurts when they call me lazy and tell me to get a "real" job, or ask when I'm going to start looking for normal work again. Since when does sitting in a fucking office all day and typing up meaningless documents constitute real work anyway? One of the things I like best about what I'm doing is getting paid for doing actual physical work as opposed to the number of hours I'm at a particular place. I also love being able to do part of the work outside and that it feels like I'm doing something meaningful as opposed to just a dead end source of income. Why would anyone look down on someone else for that? Isn't that what everyone wants with their life?

The most I can come up with is that people are just culturally brainwashed to look down on anyone that's different than the statistical norm. And that makes me extremely depressed when I think about my future here.




In order to conceal their own incompetence, fear and herd-mentality, people disregard and make fun of anything that demonstrates that they are cowards as well as anything that proves them wrong.

But what are you doing? That is the part you are not telling us, maybe for a reason. :satansmoking:


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Anonymous #11

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #10]
    #12541881 - 05/11/10 10:06 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

What the fuck are you doing? It's legal, yet taboo???


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Anonymous #12

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #11]
    #12541954 - 05/11/10 10:36 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I work from home OP.
Make over 3k a month on average.
I really only put in 2 full days of work divided over 7.

Fuck people calling you lazy. That's when you laugh in their face and ask how much fun they have flipping burgers for a living.

Retire at 35 and have teh LULZ at poor people.

edit:

I won't be retiring at 35, but I will still have teh LULZ at poor people.

Not that im knocking poor people. I was poor too. But again, fuck the people that look down on your profession.


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Anonymous #8

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #12]
    #12541957 - 05/11/10 10:38 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #12 said:
I work from home OP.
Make over 3k a month on average.
I really only put in 2 full days of work divided over 7.

Fuck people calling you lazy. That's when you laugh in their face and ask how much fun they have flipping burgers for a living.

Retire at 35 and have teh LULZ at poor people.




This.


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Anonymous #13

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #11]
    #12541964 - 05/11/10 10:40 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #11 said:
What the fuck are you doing? It's legal, yet taboo???




:strokebeard:


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Anonymous #14

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #13]
    #12542166 - 05/11/10 11:55 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Blowing glass???


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Anonymous #3

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #14]
    #12542248 - 05/11/10 12:16 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #14 said:
Blowing glass???




Blowing goats on web cam?  Seriously though, WTF do you do? Tell us  :hypnotoad:!!


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Anonymous #12

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #12542304 - 05/11/10 12:30 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

All Glory to the Hypnotoad.


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Anonymous #13

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #12]
    #12542409 - 05/11/10 12:57 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Amway.


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Anonymous #11

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #13]
    #12543032 - 05/11/10 03:23 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

He still hasn't admitted to internet cumwhorism?


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Anonymous #15

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #12543425 - 05/11/10 04:34 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

..


Edited by Anonymous (05/12/10 12:13 AM)


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Anonymous #16

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #11]
    #12543458 - 05/11/10 04:41 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #11 said:
He still hasn't admitted to internet cumwhorism?




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Anonymous #17

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #12]
    #12543471 - 05/11/10 04:44 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #12 said:
I work from home OP.
Make over 3k a month on average.
I really only put in 2 full days of work divided over 7.

Fuck people calling you lazy. That's when you laugh in their face and ask how much fun they have flipping burgers for a living.

Retire at 35 and have teh LULZ at poor people.

edit:

I won't be retiring at 35, but I will still have teh LULZ at poor people.

Not that im knocking poor people. I was poor too. But again, fuck the people that look down on your profession.



What kind of work do you do #12?


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Anonymous #12

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #17]
    #12544854 - 05/11/10 08:37 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

A bunch of different things.
But my primary income is a professional Voice Over artist.

I've posted in a few of these job type threads.

Its real difficult to get into, and you've gotta be super fucking good, on the ball, and deal with stupid fucking clients.
but there's potential for crazy money. Depending on how good you are.

I just did a job for 20th Century Fox this morning.
I've also done stuff for Disney, Oakley, Citrix, Bell South, Target... and on and on.

I started a few years ago really low on the ladder. Doing 20 minute VO's for $50 and shit.

Now 20 minutes of my time goes for about $800.
But that's finished VO. You gotta read, re-read, edit, mix, comp. Everything. 20 minutes turns into 2 hours or more really quick.


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Anonymous #18

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #12]
    #12544910 - 05/11/10 08:45 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

op, you are getting results from jealous pansies about what they feel like they couldn't do, and what they feel have to do.

it's been covered already in this thread, though; short form is "fucking idiots".


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Anonymous #17

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #12]
    #12545286 - 05/11/10 09:50 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

#12 that sounds awesome man, congratulations for doing something like that with yourself.

I have no illusions that I'd qualify for voice overs though.. I have a really eccentric voice.

I do need to find my niche though, I'm sick of working bullshit jobs.


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Anonymous #19

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #12]
    #12545831 - 05/11/10 11:23 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #12 said:
A bunch of different things.
But my primary income is a professional Voice Over artist.

I've posted in a few of these job type threads.

Its real difficult to get into, and you've gotta be super fucking good, on the ball, and deal with stupid fucking clients.
but there's potential for crazy money. Depending on how good you are.

I just did a job for 20th Century Fox this morning.
I've also done stuff for Disney, Oakley, Citrix, Bell South, Target... and on and on.

I started a few years ago really low on the ladder. Doing 20 minute VO's for $50 and shit.

Now 20 minutes of my time goes for about $800.
But that's finished VO. You gotta read, re-read, edit, mix, comp. Everything. 20 minutes turns into 2 hours or more really quick.





I sat next to a guy on a plane once who did this. What if it was you? Did you happen to go on tour with a band for a couple years after college, to your parents dismay? I know its super-unlikely, but have to ask.


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Anonymous #19

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #19]
    #12545856 - 05/11/10 11:27 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Number 1, I don't really know why people chastise you for that. I wouldn't expect that. When I tell people I write freelance articles they think it's cool -- but of course I am still "looking" for a job (well, I do need one). Who the hell says anything about that? Relatives? Friends? Strangers? I can't imagine meeting a friend of a friend or someone and them telling me to get a "real" job.


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Anonymous #20

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #19]
    #12546182 - 05/12/10 12:44 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I feel like I could've written the OP myself.  I also have a nontraditional business I run from my home.  Most people tell me I have it made, but some do give strange looks and ask if I'm looking for a "real" job.

I think many people buy into the mythology that the "college -> work 9-5 for someone else" path is the only way to success.  Meeting living counterexamples frustrates them because it forces them to think about what might have been if they were more open-minded.


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Anonymous #12

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #19]
    #12547211 - 05/12/10 08:28 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #19 said:
Quote:

Anonymous #12 said:
A bunch of different things.
But my primary income is a professional Voice Over artist.

I've posted in a few of these job type threads.

Its real difficult to get into, and you've gotta be super fucking good, on the ball, and deal with stupid fucking clients.
but there's potential for crazy money. Depending on how good you are.

I just did a job for 20th Century Fox this morning.
I've also done stuff for Disney, Oakley, Citrix, Bell South, Target... and on and on.

I started a few years ago really low on the ladder. Doing 20 minute VO's for $50 and shit.

Now 20 minutes of my time goes for about $800.
But that's finished VO. You gotta read, re-read, edit, mix, comp. Everything. 20 minutes turns into 2 hours or more really quick.





I sat next to a guy on a plane once who did this. What if it was you? Did you happen to go on tour with a band for a couple years after college, to your parents dismay? I know its super-unlikely, but have to ask.





..... yes. wow. that's really fucking weird.
But i don't think I remember of which you're speaking.

I'm from Canada though, can you tell me where you were going on that plane?

I used to be in a pretty big band here and toured around North America for awhile.

If it's not me, that's a pretty fucking accurate/unlikely scenario.


Edited by Anonymous (05/12/10 08:35 AM)


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Anonymous #19

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #12]
    #12547318 - 05/12/10 09:16 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

The flight I'm thinking of was going from Austin to Akron or Cleveland. You would be somewhere around 40 if it was you.


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Anonymous #12

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #19]
    #12547325 - 05/12/10 09:18 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Haha. nope.

Not me.

What a fucked up circumstance though.

I wonder how many people graduated college, toured in a band for a couple years after that, then became Voice Actors?

It's a weird profession that's for sure. And not one people would generally think to get into.


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Anonymous #19

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #12]
    #12547337 - 05/12/10 09:24 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Haha, I sort of doubted it for some reason. But the guy I met did do stuff for Disney and probably other companies you mentioned. But I don't know if he actually did the voice acting; he may have just been on the technical end of things.


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Anonymous #21

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #12]
    #12547345 - 05/12/10 09:29 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Is op growing medi weed?

Seems like it would be legal and non-offensive, work from home and people would act like you don't have a real job.

Also, I once did some freelance work organizing the audio files and other computer work for a guy who ran a voiceover...I think he did both VO work himself and also set up other VO work for VO actors.  I remember he had VO samples for tons of celebrities and their agents contact info.  I was in HS at the time and at first I thought I had all the celebrity personal contact info.  Good thing I realized quickly that that would be crazy and I didn't try to call any, haha.  Interesting business...really surprised me how competitve it was, but then when you think about it, there are a ton of ads with VOs that all need a VO actor.


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Anonymous #12

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #21]
    #12547399 - 05/12/10 09:55 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Yup.
Everytime you hear a voice without seeing a face, that's technically a Voice Over.

It's fascinating when you get into it.

Where the fuck is OP?

Seriously.

How do you start a thread with vague details then fuck off and not reply?

:kingcrankey:


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Anonymous #8

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #12]
    #12547511 - 05/12/10 10:34 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #12 said:

Where the fuck is OP?

Seriously.

How do you start a thread with vague details then fuck off and not reply?

:kingcrankey:





I'll tell you how.  You start the thread off with "5am and my girlfriend isn't home yet.."


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Anonymous #21

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #12]
    #12547673 - 05/12/10 11:17 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #12 said:
Yup.
Everytime you hear a voice without seeing a face, that's technically a Voice Over.

It's fascinating when you get into it.

Where the fuck is OP?

Seriously.

How do you start a thread with vague details then fuck off and not reply?

:kingcrankey:




I agree...WTF!


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Anonymous #22

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #21]
    #12549070 - 05/12/10 04:16 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

People are stressed out from all the work that they do, that they lost the abiliity to think critically and form a new perspective...they are stuck emotionally in their teen years and act like a teenager paranoid about anything that is not normal.


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Anonymous #23

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #22]
    #12550587 - 05/12/10 08:13 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I respect those that have been able to sustain themselve from being self employed doing freelance crap here and there. I find it weird that people are saying "get a real job"... shit these things can, and do, turn into real businesses further down the track, they take a while but how do you think a lot of ground up business start? Many freelance, or even operate out of home and garage. often its a good way to start if and if you put in the time and dedication you wont have stupid loans and overheads can be heavily reduced. But i think its fully respectable regardless of whether he wants to grow or just sustain.


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Anonymous #23

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #22]
    #12550609 - 05/12/10 08:16 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #22 said:
People are stressed out from all the work that they do, that they lost the abiliity to think critically and form a new perspective...they are stuck emotionally in their teen years and act like a teenager paranoid about anything that is not normal.




Thinking critically and forming new perspectives is ok, as long as you don't share them with your boss (and even colleagues) who will hold it against you, thought can become dangerous.
When in rome...


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Anonymous #24

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #23]
    #12550636 - 05/12/10 08:18 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

yarrggghh I hate when a thread raises 100 questions but nobody is around to provide answers


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Anonymous #25

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #24]
    #12550840 - 05/12/10 08:46 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

:notards:  :notards:  :notards:

No one really cares anything about this thread except for the one vital detail the OP left out, exactly how it is he's making money.


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Anonymous #13

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #23]
    #12551463 - 05/12/10 10:03 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #23 said: Many freelance, or even operate out of home and garage.




Apple Computer started in some guy's garage.


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Anonymous #19

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #25]
    #12551574 - 05/12/10 10:15 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #25 said:
:notards:  :notards:  :notards:

No one really cares anything about this thread except for the one vital detail the OP left out, exactly how it is he's making money.





Okay, since your like the 20th person to throw up their arms and pee their pants about that; let me make a logical inference: because he started doing freelance technical writing, yard work, and e-commerce, maybe whatever led into a more stable income involves one of those thing. Just a wild, wild guess.


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Anonymous #25

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #19]
    #12553538 - 05/13/10 04:59 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #19 said:
Quote:

Anonymous #25 said:
:notards:  :notards:  :notards:

No one really cares anything about this thread except for the one vital detail the OP left out, exactly how it is he's making money.





Okay, since your like the 20th person to throw up their arms and pee their pants about that; let me make a logical inference: because he started doing freelance technical writing, yard work, and e-commerce, maybe whatever led into a more stable income involves one of those thing. Just a wild, wild guess.




We don't want guesses, we want definitive answers!


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Anonymous #11

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #25]
    #12553906 - 05/13/10 09:05 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, wtf? This is the biggest tease......OP must be jacking his dog off on camera or something.


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Anonymous #3

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #11]
    #12554061 - 05/13/10 10:13 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Anonymous #19

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #12554170 - 05/13/10 10:54 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

What the fuck is wrong with you people? He sells shit on ebay or writes shitty articles or cleans shit. He very likely does the same crap as he did when he first started freelancing. Or maybe he does something cool. I don't know why the hell you care. Why does it matter?


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Anonymous #3

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #19]
    #12554193 - 05/13/10 10:59 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #19 said:
What the fuck is wrong with you people? He sells shit on ebay or writes shitty articles or cleans shit. He very likely does the same crap as he did when he first started freelancing. Or maybe he does something cool. I don't know why the hell you care. Why does it matter?




Are you this guy's spokesman or something?!  People want to know, man, and we're not going to relent until we know the truth!  WE ARE LEGION :hypnotoad:!!


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Anonymous #11

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #12554223 - 05/13/10 11:05 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #3 said:
Quote:

Anonymous #19 said:
What the fuck is wrong with you people? He sells shit on ebay or writes shitty articles or cleans shit. He very likely does the same crap as he did when he first started freelancing. Or maybe he does something cool. I don't know why the hell you care. Why does it matter?




Are you this guy's spokesman or something?!  People want to know, man, and we're not going to relent until we know the truth!  WE ARE LEGION :hypnotoad:!!



Fucking A! Tell the masses what you do!!!  :protest:


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Anonymous #26

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #11]
    #12554343 - 05/13/10 11:48 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I bet its porn.


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Anonymous #27

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12554359 - 05/13/10 11:52 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

some people feel big behind their keyboards


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Anonymous #27

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #27]
    #12554565 - 05/13/10 12:37 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

yep people are fags and find the need to be arses on he to make themselves feel better about themselves


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Anonymous #27

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #27]
    #12554570 - 05/13/10 12:37 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

amen


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Anonymous #23

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #27]
    #12555426 - 05/13/10 03:24 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #27 said:
some people feel big behind their keyboards



Quote:

Anonymous #27 said:
yep people are fags and find the need to be arses on he to make themselves feel better about themselves



Quote:

Anonymous #27 said:
amen




:philkensebben:


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Anonymous #25

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #19]
    #12558804 - 05/14/10 12:11 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #19 said:
What the fuck is wrong with you people? He sells shit on ebay or writes shitty articles or cleans shit. He very likely does the same crap as he did when he first started freelancing. Or maybe he does something cool. I don't know why the hell you care. Why does it matter?




It matters because we can't tell him why people are being assholes over it without knowing what it is.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #25]
    #12595062 - 05/20/10 12:04 AM (3 years, 30 days ago)

Sorry, guys. I've been really busy and didn't think this thread would get so many responses. For all the people that wanted to know, most of what I do is selling plants and cuttings. None of them are illegal and only a few are even psychoactive at all. It was just a hobby that I never thought would turn into anything until I started to get more and more sales. Probably a big part is living in a good climate where gardening is popular and almost anything grows. It doesn't make a ton of money but it's enough to pay the bills right now.

It really helped to read all of the supportive responses, especially right now. People can be so cruel towards anyone that doesn't fit into the neat and tidy mold that most of society lives in. I just got into an argument with a family member that doesn't support what I do. He kept insisting that while working from home is great, it would have been "good for me" if I had been forced to integrate into society with a normal job and learned to live like everyone else. One of my friends told me I need to learn how to blow off comments like that, but it's really hard when they come from people I'm close to.


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Anonymous #19

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12595143 - 05/20/10 12:19 AM (3 years, 30 days ago)

That sounds pretty cool. I looked into that once -- to see if I could make a living selling san pedro -- and I concluded that I would need a lot of land and a hell of lot of cuttings to get started. You must sell some expensive, exotic stuff.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #19]
    #12595268 - 05/20/10 12:42 AM (3 years, 30 days ago)

Not really, I just offer as many different varieties as possible. Cactus cuttings are really popular.


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Anonymous #25

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12595343 - 05/20/10 12:57 AM (3 years, 30 days ago)

Sounds pretty cool to me, but I'm not sure I'd be comfortable with that for the long term without knowing more about the income level and growth prospects. Some people are cut out for entrepreneurship and others are not.


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Anonymous #28

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #25]
    #12600842 - 05/20/10 10:49 PM (3 years, 29 days ago)

yep and thats how the controlling elite that be want it they likie all ther little sheeple brainwashed and stupid so they fight with eacthother and go on blathering day in and day out never thinking ther may be more to life or things arent the way they should be never realizing they could change ther lives and evry one elses around them if they treid.... BUT  hey that how it works right now the n=new world order is emerging if its not already hear and ther leaders are definatley from the same bloodline as the rulers of ancient egypt and even before babylon even in... ITS all been planed out by them to slowly shape our lives with out us ever knowing it making us dumb and docile so they could easily go along with ther plans knowing that the stupid pheasents could never put the pices of the puzzle together and would never see ther tight knite group that has a strangle hold so many things slowly creating a new babylon and turning us all into slaves they have control of our goverments and are deminishing the constitution in america........ITS all true and if they succed in they future they will even try to completly seperate themsleves from us with genetics its real the try and turn us all into souless slaves that only serve them and if you dont belive me check out and read some books by people like bertrand russlel or aldous huxley or gorge orwell"s 1984......Really just look at the world today ther so much bullshit the news dosent report news anymore ther is always a war going on or genocide like right now  with isralie and palestine our youth is getting dumber nobody in the city or anywere like that seems to give a fuck about ther neighbors and it never stops were were up to are necks with the bullshit ther feading us and most people belive it just take a look 9/11 bullshit it was planned,,, the war going on in iraq and afaganistan illegall its for oil and bullshit,,,, america has huge debts  in numbers like this 10.000.000.000.000 thers now way all that is backed by gold... the economy is controlled they make it work in ther favor its fake and they can make it go as high as they want or as low as they,,,,,People are taxed like crazy and almost more if not all of goes into the miltary or somthing else they even want us to pay to breath with carbon tax,,,, Global warning haux if it is happening were not casing it check out youtube for lord monckton and youl see,,,  poverty, overpopulation , 3rd world contries its all one purpose overpopulation isnt even a problem people like the rockefellers and bilderbergs have enough money to feed and cloth every person on the planet many times over but they dont give a fuck ther causing the problems.....And when somone trys to fix some problems they get killed like jfk, martin luther king, jhon lenon check out  bill hicks he could say this stuff and make you lagh at the same time...........AND thats about all i have say dont worry its just some rambelings i dont really have a fuckin clue about whats going on things could always be better and who knows are, are lives in this world really inportant anyways maybe it is all just an illusion like were all in one big dream who knows......But we may all be in for one hell of ride if we dont all die in 2012....thats it have a good day evryone dont worry and remeber everything is really okay is it not    oh and    :obama:  loves you


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Anonymous #8

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #28]
    #12600879 - 05/20/10 10:57 PM (3 years, 29 days ago)

What the fucking wall of text shit are you doing?  Periods and paragraphs, my friend.  I'll read it when you edit that giant tsunami of text.


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Anonymous #29

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #15]
    #12600891 - 05/20/10 10:59 PM (3 years, 29 days ago)

Cultivation maybe? I'm a webcam model, first of all, so I sit at home and play with myself for money and BANK doing it...and obviously people hate me too lmao. I should get a real job. rofl. As well as cultivaton


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Anonymous #24

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #29]
    #12601539 - 05/21/10 01:01 AM (3 years, 29 days ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #29 said:
Cultivation maybe? I'm a webcam model, first of all, so I sit at home and play with myself for money and BANK doing it...and obviously people hate me too lmao. I should get a real job. rofl. As well as cultivaton



LIIINNNKKKKKK


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Anonymous #29

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #24]
    #12601649 - 05/21/10 01:21 AM (3 years, 29 days ago)

Quote:


LIIINNNKKKKKK




All I'm sayin is www.imlive.com


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Anonymous #24

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #29]
    #12601800 - 05/21/10 01:52 AM (3 years, 29 days ago)

negative, I need a name. I've wanted to beat it to a shroomery chick for years now!


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Anonymous #28

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #24]
    #12601848 - 05/21/10 02:11 AM (3 years, 28 days ago)

sorry but i refuse to edit my giant tsunami of text you can read it like it is if you want or not at all


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Anonymous #20

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #28]
    #12602210 - 05/21/10 04:35 AM (3 years, 28 days ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #28 said:
sorry but i refuse to edit my giant tsunami of text you can read it like it is if you want or not at all




I didn't read that shit either.


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Anonymous #8

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #28]
    #12603061 - 05/21/10 11:24 AM (3 years, 28 days ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #28 said:
sorry but i refuse to edit my giant tsunami of text you can read it like it is if you want or not at all




Then you'll learn the hard way like every other person before you that nobody is going to read that shit.  Learn to post better.


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Anonymous #30

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #8]
    #12606464 - 05/21/10 10:54 PM (3 years, 28 days ago)

OP I can relate, I go to college to pretty much become a gym teacher, whether it be high school or college, I'll take whatever.  I had some 50 year old man who works at a deli ask me "That's really what you want to do? what about the future?"

What the fuck about my future? you work at a fucking deli :lol: I'll run around playing basketball with teenagers my whole life and get payed as a teacher to play sports


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Anonymous #31

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #28]
    #12612884 - 05/23/10 07:26 AM (3 years, 26 days ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #28 said:
yep and thats how the controlling elite that be want it they likie all ther little sheeple brainwashed and stupid so they fight with eacthother and go on blathering day in and day out never thinking ther may be more to life or things arent the way they should be never realizing they could change ther lives and evry one elses around them if they treid.... BUT  hey that how it works right now the n=new world order is emerging if its not already hear and ther leaders are definatley from the same bloodline as the rulers of ancient egypt and even before babylon even in... ITS all been planed out by them to slowly shape our lives with out us ever knowing it making us dumb and docile so they could easily go along with ther plans knowing that the stupid pheasents could never put the pices of the puzzle together and would never see ther tight knite group that has a strangle hold so many things slowly creating a new babylon and turning us all into slaves they have control of our goverments and are deminishing the constitution in america........ITS all true and if they succed in they future they will even try to completly seperate themsleves from us with genetics its real the try and turn us all into souless slaves that only serve them and if you dont belive me check out and read some books by people like bertrand russlel or aldous huxley or gorge orwell"s 1984......Really just look at the world today ther so much bullshit the news dosent report news anymore ther is always a war going on or genocide like right now  with isralie and palestine our youth is getting dumber nobody in the city or anywere like that seems to give a fuck about ther neighbors and it never stops were were up to are necks with the bullshit ther feading us and most people belive it just take a look 9/11 bullshit it was planned,,, the war going on in iraq and afaganistan illegall its for oil and bullshit,,,, america has huge debts  in numbers like this 10.000.000.000.000 thers now way all that is backed by gold... the economy is controlled they make it work in ther favor its fake and they can make it go as high as they want or as low as they,,,,,People are taxed like crazy and almost more if not all of goes into the miltary or somthing else they even want us to pay to breath with carbon tax,,,, Global warning haux if it is happening were not casing it check out youtube for lord monckton and youl see,,,  poverty, overpopulation , 3rd world contries its all one purpose overpopulation isnt even a problem people like the rockefellers and bilderbergs have enough money to feed and cloth every person on the planet many times over but they dont give a fuck ther causing the problems.....And when somone trys to fix some problems they get killed like jfk, martin luther king, jhon lenon check out  bill hicks he could say this stuff and make you lagh at the same time...........AND thats about all i have say dont worry its just some rambelings i dont really have a fuckin clue about whats going on things could always be better and who knows are, are lives in this world really inportant anyways maybe it is all just an illusion like were all in one big dream who knows......But we may all be in for one hell of ride if we dont all die in 2012....thats it have a good day evryone dont worry and remeber everything is really okay is it not    oh and    :obama:  loves you





What an epic waste of time that was to write. NOONE, not one single person actaully read all that.


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Anonymous #32

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #31]
    #12614811 - 05/23/10 05:47 PM (3 years, 26 days ago)

Text wall is giant wall of text.
Seriously-punctuation and grammar, anon.
You're obviously posting this because you want feedback, so don't get all "I don't care, don't read it. Baw"


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Anonymous #23

Re: Why are people being assholes over this? [Re: Anonymous #32]
    #12614927 - 05/23/10 06:06 PM (3 years, 26 days ago)

i skimmed it.

stuff about NWO, bloodlines of the elite, assasinations, 2012, gold, oil, global warming....

...a lot of hot-phrase and hot-word dropping to poke sticks at. Can't be bothered dissecting the wall of text to find substance.


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