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 Why do people call alcohol spirits? 
#12521669 - 05/07/10 01:00 PM (3 years, 16 days ago) |
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Well I was wondering why, so I googled it and here are the results:
"Alcohol or drug induced states are an example of this. Why do you
think hard alcohol is called "spirits?" It's because after a certain
level of consumption the alcohol lowers the energetic field of your
personality to where other spirits can enter your body.
When the alcohol wears off and your level of consciousness rises again
the spirit pops out of the body. This is why people report being drunk
and blacking out. They don't remember dancing on the table naked
because their spirit wasn't the one in the body dancing naked. Haven't
you ever seen someone you know act like a totally different person
when they're drunk? Well, this is whats happening.
So you can see how you can easily forget who you truly are while
getting seduced by the daily distractions you face each day. But with
a little conscious effort and focus on what and who matter most in
your life you'll reconnect with the spirit that you are."
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Re: Why do people call alcohol spirits? [Re: I AM SWIM]
#12521707 - 05/07/10 01:12 PM (3 years, 16 days ago) |
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"The precise origin of the name spirits which is commonly given to alcoholic beverage is unknown. However, the words "alembic" and "alcohol", as well as possibly the metaphors aqua vitæ (meaning "life-water") and "spirit" given to the distilled product, may stem from Middle Eastern alchemy. Distilled alcohol was first noted in Europe among alchemists during the mid 12th century. These alchemists were more involved in medical "elixirs" than in creating gold from lead."
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Re: Why do people call alcohol spirits? [Re: Icelander]
#12521772 - 05/07/10 01:31 PM (3 years, 16 days ago) |
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I had always thought it was because distilling beer into strong alcohol released the "spirit" or essence of the beer and condensed it into strong alc, or spirits.
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Re: Why do people call alcohol spirits? [Re: Bokonon]
#12521823 - 05/07/10 01:43 PM (3 years, 16 days ago) |
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because it's the spirit that takes over your body when you black out and do stupid shit, like punch out random people or in my case...break a bottle of bacardi over your friend's head 
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Re: Why do people call alcohol spirits? [Re: Icelander]
#12521825 - 05/07/10 01:44 PM (3 years, 16 days ago) |
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I figured the origin was pretty unknown, lol I just googled it and it was a response from yahoo answers, so it would be kinda dumb to take whatever anyone says on yahoo seriously.
DMT was considered a spirit molecule by rick strassman, so maybe all molecules are spirits in their own thang.
Kind of like how even inanimate matter can be more alive/animate than perceived to be, we are all made up from the same thangs, so 
who knowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwsssssssssssssssssssssssss
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Re: Why do people call alcohol spirits? [Re: I AM SWIM]
#12521845 - 05/07/10 01:49 PM (3 years, 16 days ago) |
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Hungry ghosts man... Ever see pictures of events where a lot of alcohol is being consumed?
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Re: Why do people call alcohol spirits? [Re: c0sm0nautt]
#12521939 - 05/07/10 02:12 PM (3 years, 16 days ago) |
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ive seen orbs do thangs where the dead celebrate and drink beer together and
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Re: Why do people call alcohol spirits? [Re: I AM SWIM]
#12522942 - 05/07/10 05:47 PM (3 years, 15 days ago) |
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Meher Baba had some interesting things to say in relation to this topic.. mostly an explanation of ghosts
"Garrett Fort: What is meant by possession?
Baba: There are certain cases where the Gross body is compelled to drop before the person's sanskaras are completely used up. Such is the case when a person commits suicide. The body is gone, but the momentum of all the impressions goes on. The person is now a ghost. The ghost wants to drink, eat, etc., very, very badly. So much so that it takes to unnatural resources by entering someone else's body. It awaits its opportunity. When it finds you drinking it satisfies its desire by drinking through you, your body. When it has to experience anger, then when you are angry it experiences it through you, your body. This is a fact."
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""Lower spirits are those beings without physical forms whose sanskaras remain to be wiped out. They cannot progress after death until their unfinished sanskaras are worked out. As a consequence, they wander about on the lower Astral plane. For this reason, they are a source of harassment to living people.
"Suppose a man is destined to have a life span of forty years, but he commits suicide when he is thirty. Consequently, for the remaining ten year period of unexpressed sanskaras, his spirit inhabits the lower planes, and at times is seen by some people as a spirit or ghost. To hold seances or to talk with the dead is no great thing, because such spirits are always among us on this living plane.
"There are advanced yogis and munis who converse with these ghosts who have committed suicide, as well as with the spirits of the higher planes. These advanced souls communicate without using a medium. They live on both levels."
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"Why be afraid of ghosts? A ghost means a human being without a body, and in that bodiless state he has to remain as long as the sanskaras of his previous birth last. Then he takes another birth.
"Ghosts are miserable. They have desires, like any of us. They try to come in contact with human beings to fulfill their desires. When it is dark and silent, their Subtle, smoky bodies become transparent. You have Gross, Subtle and Mental bodies. They have only Subtle and Mental bodies. but these are not as limited as the Gross. When stretched out, their Subtle body stretches out in all directions - upward and sideways. That makes you shiver and scream when you see them like that. Depending on their surroundings, darkness and quietude, they can be seen. Their bodies can enlarge and shrink. That is why in dreams the Subtle bodies go anywhere, stretching out and out. They can also be photographed in suitable conditions, depending upon the surroundings, time, light, and the photographer.
"These discarnate spirits wish to contact living human beings. If Rano, a heavy smoker, has no body, and for some reason becomes a ghost, she does not get another physical body until certain sanskaras are spent. They may be spent in one year or a million years. All depends on the contacts made to spend one's sanskaras.
"For instance, Rano has her craving for smoking cigarettes. She sees Kitty smoking. She, too, wants to smoke, and tries to contact Kitty to have a cigarette. But contact with a Gross body by the Subtle body is almost impossible. Kitty feels the presence of a Subtle body and is scared. But poor Rano only wants to have a smoke. In some instances, she, Rano the ghost, becomes so desperate that she waits until Kitty nods to sleep even the tiniest little bit, and then smokes through Kitty's Gross body.
"The Subtle can enter any Gross body or thing. When it enters you, you don't even know it, and are not at all affected. But it can only enter your body when you are not conscious, when you are sleeping. How many spirits have been drinking tea through Norina when she is not conscious? But the spirit has no hold, it does not reside in you or possess you, but just goes like the wind. And it only happens sometimes. "Don't think about it, or you will go mad. It is of no importance, so trivial, so insignificant.
"Sometimes you feel angry for nothing. This might be some spirit wanting to spend sankaras of anger through you. But this is so unimportant, not worth thinking about. Our bodies are full of germs, but we don't think about it. If we did, and tried to picture it in our minds, we would go mad. Masters are so bothered by these spirits, you have no idea. They want to touch me for liberation, and they do."
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"Mehera, Mani and Gaimai were bothered by a ghost in Lonavla. Mehera's arm was pulled while she slept. Mani's entire body was shaken. Baba told them "Don't worry about it. I will take care of it." After that the ghost did not disturb them. Later they learned that some years earlier a laundryman had committed suicide in the well of the compound. Baba told the women,
"Don't be afraid of ghosts. They don't do any real harm. The atmosphere is full of impressions. Sometimes when you think you feel the presence of a spirit, it is not the actual spirit, but the impressions in the place that you feel. That is why I told you all not to go near the well where the laundryman committed suicide. All those impressions of his are lingering there, but I have now freed his spirit, so it is all right now."
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""Ghosts are departed spirits who have been too much attached to the Gross world. After dropping the physical body, they still desire to live in close contact with the Gross. They continue to gravitate in the lower Subtle and Astral planes. Their Astral sheath or envelope is automatically actuated by the impressions concerning the Gross, and keeps them tied down to the Gross for long periods."
Read more here http://www.meherbabadnyana.net/life_eternal/Book_Two/2_Ghosts.htm
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Re: Why do people call alcohol spirits? [Re: I AM SWIM]
#12523676 - 05/07/10 08:45 PM (3 years, 15 days ago) |
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Quote:
I AM SWIM said:
Well I was wondering why, so I googled it and here are the results:
"Alcohol or drug induced states are an example of this. Why do you
think hard alcohol is called "spirits?" It's because after a certain
level of consumption the alcohol lowers the energetic field of your
personality to where other spirits can enter your body.
When the alcohol wears off and your level of consciousness rises again
the spirit pops out of the body. This is why people report being drunk
and blacking out. They don't remember dancing on the table naked
because their spirit wasn't the one in the body dancing naked. Haven't
you ever seen someone you know act like a totally different person
when they're drunk? Well, this is whats happening.
So you can see how you can easily forget who you truly are while
getting seduced by the daily distractions you face each day. But with
a little conscious effort and focus on what and who matter most in
your life you'll reconnect with the spirit that you are."
Yea I reconnected with the spirit and it was cool.
I would let him speak but he has gotten me in trouble before so for now he will stay quiet or I will have to break a bottle of 151 over his head.
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Re: Why do people call alcohol spirits? [Re: I AM SWIM]
#12524108 - 05/07/10 10:01 PM (3 years, 15 days ago) |
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It is called 'spirits' because the alcohol evaporates if the container is left open. Next question.
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Re: Why do people call alcohol spirits? [Re: I AM SWIM]
#12524628 - 05/08/10 12:00 AM (3 years, 15 days ago) |
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Quote:
I AM SWIM said:
I figured the origin was pretty unknown, lol I just googled it and it was a response from yahoo answers, so it would be kinda dumb to take whatever anyone says on yahoo seriously.
DMT was considered a spirit molecule by rick strassman, so maybe all molecules are spirits in their own thang.
Kind of like how even inanimate matter can be more alive/animate than perceived to be, we are all made up from the same thangs, so
who knowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwsssssssssssssssssssssssss
That was my point. It's conjecture because there are a lot of opinions.
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Re: Why do people call alcohol spirits? [Re: Icelander]
#12526049 - 05/08/10 08:30 AM (3 years, 15 days ago) |
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Weingeist = spirit of wine
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Re: Why do people call alcohol spirits? [Re: Rev. Morton]
#12526280 - 05/08/10 10:33 AM (3 years, 15 days ago) |
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Mr. Middle said:
It is called 'spirits' because the alcohol evaporates if the container is left open. Next question.
Maybe our ancestors thought the spirits were drinking it. The idea of spirits and bottles can be seen with the Ji'nn too. Some people in the US actually have "bottle trees" which are trees with many upside down bottles on the branches - they are meant to catch spirits.
I still stand by the idea that when one is severely intoxicated, a hungry ghost, perhaps a dead alcoholic, can hop in the passenger seat for that last drink.
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Re: Why do people call alcohol spirits? [Re: c0sm0nautt]
#12526353 - 05/08/10 11:01 AM (3 years, 15 days ago) |
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Addictions are very strong so that is totally plausable
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Re: Why do people call alcohol spirits? [Re: The Chronic]
#12526545 - 05/08/10 12:10 PM (3 years, 15 days ago) |
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Maybe they are called spirits because alcohol makes you forget your rational\intellectual mind, you forget about the troubles in your life, you loosin up and your true "spirit" comes out.
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Re: Why do people call alcohol spirits? [Re: soldatheero]
#12526603 - 05/08/10 12:30 PM (3 years, 15 days ago) |
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maybe, but i dont think my drunk self is my true spirit,
quite the opposite
it's like i used to get drunk a lot and made my surroundings very trashy and shitty, after being sober for a while, i realize my surroundings don't represent me, and it's almost like someone else was living that life in my body.
i guess the same could go towards anyone who doesn't attempt to live their life impeccably, regardless if it's the drugs in control or not. If someone acts out without thought, then I would think that person is just as good as dead.
it's like drunk ppl need an exorcism or some thang (or the ones that lose control)
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Re: Why do people call alcohol spirits? [Re: I AM SWIM]
#12526606 - 05/08/10 12:32 PM (3 years, 15 days ago) |
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maybe, but i dont think my drunk self is my true spirit,
Depends how drunk you are. After 2-3 beers your still functional but your loose, once your actually "drunk" then your not much more then a void. When your super hammered your basically unconscious and everything runs on the unconscious.
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Re: Why do people call alcohol spirits? [Re: soldatheero]
#12526804 - 05/08/10 01:29 PM (3 years, 15 days ago) |
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When I was a freshmen/sophomore in college I had nights where I would drink 3 Colt 45 40's... that's about 17 alcohol drinks. I would rip bushes out of the ground, do the most out of character stuff, push my friends for no reason - just overall wildin' out. When your black out drunk it definitely makes you susceptible to a dark part of yourself or something else.
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Re: Why do people call alcohol spirits? [Re: c0sm0nautt]
#12526865 - 05/08/10 01:43 PM (3 years, 15 days ago) |
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Yeah there is no doubt
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Re: Why do people call alcohol spirits? [Re: soldatheero]
#12527425 - 05/08/10 04:12 PM (3 years, 14 days ago) |
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theres also no doubt
that ppl callin' alcohol 'spirits'
is just a form of doin' thangs
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