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 Last night meditation 
#12459928 - 04/26/10 03:47 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's been 5 months when I started meditating.
This day was so said most 'enlightening' from morning in this year.
I started meditating because of my negative experience with weed,
in hope to recover. But that's not the point.
After reading Ramana Maharashi I sat in position and closed eyes, focused
on my breathing.
(I don't know exactly how long I've been meditating.).
After a while the realization hit me very strong that there is I behind
the flesh and bones. My body did not seem so important anymore,
all attention was on the being.
After the realization of self many other realizations came about my life,
answer to most was love. That is letting everything be as it is, no resistance.
I still was aware that I was sitting and then journey began.
Smoothly I started to loose coordination and I was not tied in my body,
I still felt I was connected to it and all its senses, but I wasn't there.
It felt as I was all around the room at the time.
Everything was so real and last time I consumed alcohol and drug was 3 months ago.
After being one with room I was going really long and my body seemed
to be low. I was getting longer and longer, longer than roof in my house and to
the cosmos at the time getting longer realization came
that everything could be reached from being here in all attention.
I was getting longer and longer, but now became closer to the body, moving still up
at that point I felt as my body was falling/sinking down
fast being straight as it was and 'teleporting' back
to the place where it was. I was going up and getting back to the
place I was, right at the same moment. When this happened it was just like
being on wave or a rollercoster, very intense,
for some reason I thought it was sine wave.
After that I opened eyes and did not notice any difference, not even comeback.
This was most intense meditation 'trip' I've ever experienced.
Was it all in my head? Am I going mad?
Please say if know something XD.
Edited by HeartAndMind (04/26/10 04:01 PM)
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Yea man, that's what it's all about. The love! Being in the Now.
But remember the peak experiences are just to keep you on the path.
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Re: Last night meditation [Re: c0sm0nautt]
#12461140 - 04/26/10 07:23 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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That's good.
When you sit, do not expect this to happen again though.
Sit for the sake of sitting.
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That's good.
When you sit, do not expect this to happen again though.
Sit for the sake of sitting.
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HeartAndMind said:
I started meditating.
After reading Ramana Maharashi
I sat in position
I behind the flesh and bones
I still was aware
I was sitting
I started to loose coordination
I was not tied in my body
I still felt I was connected to it
I wasn't there.
I was all around the room
I consumed alcohol and drug
I was going really long
I was getting longer and longer
I was getting longer
I felt
I was going up
I was
I thought
I opened eyes
What would Ramana say? 
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c0sm0nautt said:
Yea man, that's what it's all about. The love! Being in the Now.
But remember the peak experiences are just to keep you on the path.
I will, thanks 
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appleorange said:
That's good.
When you sit, do not expect this to happen again though.
Sit for the sake of sitting.
Yeah, main thing is not to attach to it :P
After the first intense experience I could not experience
it again, because was hoping to experience it again for a long time ^^.
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Chronic777 said:
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HeartAndMind said:
I started meditating.
After reading Ramana Maharashi
I sat in position
I behind the flesh and bones
I still was aware
I was sitting
I started to loose coordination
I was not tied in my body
I still felt I was connected to it
I wasn't there.
I was all around the room
I consumed alcohol and drug
I was going really long
I was getting longer and longer
I was getting longer
I felt
I was going up
I was
I thought
I opened eyes
What would Ramana say?
Lol, thank you for pointing out
I think he would say not to identify with brain? 
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'I' is there before any experience
'I' is there during any experience
'I' is there after any experience has passed
What is this 'I'?
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What is this 'I'?
A mere letter, and nothing more. 
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Re: Last night meditation [Re: deCypher]
#12464958 - 04/27/10 01:48 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Exactly, a thought, and not a thing more
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Is a thought really a thing?
No matter? Never mind...
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How? I don't completely understand.
It's always here...It is a thought that is always here?
I remember Ramana said about I, I. It's then behind the thought?
The real?
How to make difference?
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Brother you came real close to leaving your body. The roller coaster feeling is exactly how we describe it...
You were on the brink of the edge and weren't pulled. Maybe you could have stepped forward. There is so much more for you to come. Your very lucky.
Your excitement is the enemy, Terence Mckenna always put it best when he says " Don't give in to astonishment" my sifu told me something so similar that it doesn't quite click till your on that edge!!
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I have had many friends and students who get as close as you did and get so scared they never return to meditative practice..
There is a threshold to step over. Be careful here please.
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The Universe is not only queerer than we suppose, but queerer than we can suppose.
J. B. S. Haldane
The quest of the absolute leads into the four-dimensional world.
Sir Arthur Stanley Eddington
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Brother you came real close to leaving your body. The roller coaster feeling is exactly how we describe it...
You were on the brink of the edge and weren't pulled. Maybe you could have stepped forward. There is so much more for you to come. Your very lucky.
Your excitement is the enemy, Terence Mckenna always put it best when he says " Don't give in to astonishment" my sifu told me something so similar that it doesn't quite click till your on that edge!!
We? Who you are? 
Care to share your experiences?
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I have had many friends and students who get as close as you did and get so scared they never return to meditative practice..
There is a threshold to step over. Be careful here please.
Hm, possibility to lose sanity? :P
Thank you for prevention. I really do not know what to expect,
but I believe that nothing can really harm me expect me myself.
EDIT: Nice quote Quote:
The quest of the absolute leads into the four-dimensional world.
Edited by HeartAndMind (04/28/10 06:37 PM)
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Forever White Belt said:
I have had many friends and students who get as close as you did and get so scared they never return to meditative practice..
There is a threshold to step over. Be careful here please.
Hehe, a friend of mine recently had one of these "dark nights of the soul." Apparently it is when the ego tails along on the ride to infinity.
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Re: Last night meditation [Re: c0sm0nautt]
#12472622 - 04/28/10 06:44 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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All that talk about it got me super excited XD.
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Apparently it is when the ego tails along on the ride to infinity.
Really? I'm not alone, lol.
Did he get over it?
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Apparently it is when the ego tails along on the ride to infinity.
Really? I'm not alone, lol.
Did he get over it?
Haha not alone by any means. He's recovered.
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Re: Last night meditation [Re: c0sm0nautt]
#12472645 - 04/28/10 06:49 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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c0sm0nautt said:
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HeartAndMind said:
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Apparently it is when the ego tails along on the ride to infinity.
Really? I'm not alone, lol.
Did he get over it?
Haha not alone by any means.
Right
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Re: Last night meditation [Re: c0sm0nautt]
#12472658 - 04/28/10 06:51 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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No, I wouldn't say your going to lose your sanity, or hurt yourself but I have to ask if leaving your body is a goal or not??
Because if you did not plan for something like that and did not want it to happen no matter what the circumstance you maybe would feel a little distressed to say the least??
Your mind is a very fragile thing and while under an altered state of consciousness throwing it into shock can cause some disturbing side affects afterwords.
Sorry about speaking in plural I run a martial arts school (Tai-Chi Kung Fu/Chi Gong) full of practitioners of all ages/skill levels and I was referring to that "we".
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The Universe is not only queerer than we suppose, but queerer than we can suppose.
J. B. S. Haldane
The quest of the absolute leads into the four-dimensional world.
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Forever White Belt said:
No, I wouldn't say your going to lose your sanity, or hurt yourself but I have to ask if leaving your body is a goal or not??
Because if you did not plan for something like that and did not want it to happen no matter what the circumstance you maybe would feel a little distressed to say the least??
Your mind is a very fragile thing and while under an altered state of consciousness throwing it into shock can cause some disturbing side affects afterwords.
Sorry about speaking in plural I run a martial arts school (Tai-Chi Kung Fu/Chi Gong) full of practitioners of all ages/skill levels and I was referring to that "we".
That was not my goal, I just meditate every night, before sleep.
I really do not have goal when meditating, just focusing on breath.
After the experience I did not believe it actually, thought it's in my head still. Because I had plenty of delusions and paranoia earlier.
I really did not know what to think about it. It is my second alike experience.
Awesome, I also do martial arts, Aikido .
Did not mean to be offensive in any way, English is not my first language :P.
Edited by HeartAndMind (04/28/10 07:02 PM)
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HeartAndMind said:
How? I don't completely understand.
It's always here...It is a thought that is always here?
I remember Ramana said about I, I. It's then behind the thought?
The real?
How to make difference?
Existence is already here, and that existence is undeniably what you are
Stay with that existence, out of that everything will become clear
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I see, thank you very much!
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HeartAndMind said:
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Forever White Belt said:
No, I wouldn't say your going to lose your sanity, or hurt yourself but I have to ask if leaving your body is a goal or not??
Because if you did not plan for something like that and did not want it to happen no matter what the circumstance you maybe would feel a little distressed to say the least??
Your mind is a very fragile thing and while under an altered state of consciousness throwing it into shock can cause some disturbing side affects afterwords.
Sorry about speaking in plural I run a martial arts school (Tai-Chi Kung Fu/Chi Gong) full of practitioners of all ages/skill levels and I was referring to that "we".
That was not my goal, I just meditate every night, before sleep.
I really do not have goal when meditating, just focusing on breath.
After the experience I did not believe it actually, thought it's in my head still. Because I had plenty of delusions and paranoia earlier.
I really did not know what to think about it. It is my second alike experience.
Awesome, I also do martial arts, Aikido .
Did not mean to be offensive in any way, English is not my first language :P.
Your not offending in anyway no worries. I have to ask please do not be offended.
Why have you started meditating? In other words do you have a goal? Be as in detail as you feel necessary.
And where did you pick up the practice of meditating? Also is there any reason why you chose just at night before bed. There are + and - here and one or the other may suit you better.
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The Universe is not only queerer than we suppose, but queerer than we can suppose.
J. B. S. Haldane
The quest of the absolute leads into the four-dimensional world.
Sir Arthur Stanley Eddington
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Forever White Belt said:
Quote:
HeartAndMind said:
Quote:
Forever White Belt said:
No, I wouldn't say your going to lose your sanity, or hurt yourself but I have to ask if leaving your body is a goal or not??
Because if you did not plan for something like that and did not want it to happen no matter what the circumstance you maybe would feel a little distressed to say the least??
Your mind is a very fragile thing and while under an altered state of consciousness throwing it into shock can cause some disturbing side affects afterwords.
Sorry about speaking in plural I run a martial arts school (Tai-Chi Kung Fu/Chi Gong) full of practitioners of all ages/skill levels and I was referring to that "we".
That was not my goal, I just meditate every night, before sleep.
I really do not have goal when meditating, just focusing on breath.
After the experience I did not believe it actually, thought it's in my head still. Because I had plenty of delusions and paranoia earlier.
I really did not know what to think about it. It is my second alike experience.
Awesome, I also do martial arts, Aikido .
Did not mean to be offensive in any way, English is not my first language :P.
Your not offending in anyway no worries. I have to ask please do not be offended.
Why have you started meditating? In other words do you have a goal? Be as in detail as you feel necessary.
And where did you pick up the practice of meditating? Also is there any reason why you chose just at night before bed. There are + and - here and one or the other may suit you better.
I started meditating because of my 'bad trip'. I guess I was too bound
with ego. So I started meditating to recover, to get out of the 'madness'. I really want to do well at school too. But when I meditate,
I try to drop everything that is going in my head, I force to focus
mind on one thought. Soon after 'getting out of head' things just go the way do.
I meditate on my bed and before sleep is because I don't have
time and possibilities to do this durning day.
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HeartAndMind said:
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Forever White Belt said:
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HeartAndMind said:
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Forever White Belt said:
No, I wouldn't say your going to lose your sanity, or hurt yourself but I have to ask if leaving your body is a goal or not??
Because if you did not plan for something like that and did not want it to happen no matter what the circumstance you maybe would feel a little distressed to say the least??
Your mind is a very fragile thing and while under an altered state of consciousness throwing it into shock can cause some disturbing side affects afterwords.
Sorry about speaking in plural I run a martial arts school (Tai-Chi Kung Fu/Chi Gong) full of practitioners of all ages/skill levels and I was referring to that "we".
That was not my goal, I just meditate every night, before sleep.
I really do not have goal when meditating, just focusing on breath.
After the experience I did not believe it actually, thought it's in my head still. Because I had plenty of delusions and paranoia earlier.
I really did not know what to think about it. It is my second alike experience.
Awesome, I also do martial arts, Aikido .
Did not mean to be offensive in any way, English is not my first language :P.
Your not offending in anyway no worries. I have to ask please do not be offended.
Why have you started meditating? In other words do you have a goal? Be as in detail as you feel necessary.
And where did you pick up the practice of meditating? Also is there any reason why you chose just at night before bed. There are + and - here and one or the other may suit you better.
I started meditating because of my 'bad trip'. I guess I was too bound
with ego. So I started meditating to recover, to get out of the 'madness'. I really want to do well at school too. But when I meditate,
I try to drop everything that is going in my head, I force to focus
mind on one thought. Soon after 'getting out of head' things just go the way do.
I meditate on my bed and before sleep is because I don't have
time and possibilities to do this durning day.
O yea I forgot to say that Aikido is an awesome martial art be sure to add your breathing to your Chin-na and your throws in class it should increase your fighting power 200%!!
Where have you learned your breathing techniques from?? You may be getting in a little over your head with this kind of practice, especially if you are recovering from some powerful experiences. Take things slowly and remember that your whole life is ahead of you to practice!
Also meditating during the day say maybe wake up an hour earlier in the morning can help to remove a lot of the "noise" or random thoughts that may build up over the course of your day, which helps make meditation a little less chaotic. Starting your day with a light breathing exercise say 10 to 15min helps brighten your day too! Your ready for anything after that!
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The Universe is not only queerer than we suppose, but queerer than we can suppose.
J. B. S. Haldane
The quest of the absolute leads into the four-dimensional world.
Sir Arthur Stanley Eddington
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O yea I forgot to say that Aikido is an awesome martial art be sure to add your breathing to your Chin-na and your throws in class it should increase your fighting power 200%!!
Where have you learned your breathing techniques from?? You may be getting in a little over your head with this kind of practice, especially if you are recovering from some powerful experiences. Take things slowly and remember that your whole life is ahead of you to practice!
Also meditating during the day say maybe wake up an hour earlier in the morning can help to remove a lot of the "noise" or random thoughts that may build up over the course of your day, which helps make meditation a little less chaotic. Starting your day with a light breathing exercise say 10 to 15min helps brighten your day too! Your ready for anything after that!
Hm, cool. I thought that breathing is not that necesarry :P. I will breathe now !
I learned meditation from book, I don't remember exactly which one, I think
it was Sri Ramana Maharshi - Be As You Are .
I'm really positive after meditation actually, I was unsure what happened to me durning last time just :P.
Seems like very good thing to do, should start my day earlier .
How long have you been meditating? What are out of body experiences like?
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HeartAndMind said:
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O yea I forgot to say that Aikido is an awesome martial art be sure to add your breathing to your Chin-na and your throws in class it should increase your fighting power 200%!!
Where have you learned your breathing techniques from?? You may be getting in a little over your head with this kind of practice, especially if you are recovering from some powerful experiences. Take things slowly and remember that your whole life is ahead of you to practice!
Also meditating during the day say maybe wake up an hour earlier in the morning can help to remove a lot of the "noise" or random thoughts that may build up over the course of your day, which helps make meditation a little less chaotic. Starting your day with a light breathing exercise say 10 to 15min helps brighten your day too! Your ready for anything after that!
Hm, cool. I thought that breathing is not that necesarry :P. I will breathe now !
I learned meditation from book, I don't remember exactly which one, I think
it was Sri Ramana Maharshi - Be As You Are .
I'm really positive after meditation actually, I was unsure what happened to me durning last time just :P.
Seems like very good thing to do, should start my day earlier.
How long have you been meditating? What are out of body experiences like?
I have been practicing for 13 years. What are obe's like?? Have you ever seen a road runner cartoon?? HaHa
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The Universe is not only queerer than we suppose, but queerer than we can suppose.
J. B. S. Haldane
The quest of the absolute leads into the four-dimensional world.
Sir Arthur Stanley Eddington
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Forever White Belt said:
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HeartAndMind said:
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O yea I forgot to say that Aikido is an awesome martial art be sure to add your breathing to your Chin-na and your throws in class it should increase your fighting power 200%!!
Where have you learned your breathing techniques from?? You may be getting in a little over your head with this kind of practice, especially if you are recovering from some powerful experiences. Take things slowly and remember that your whole life is ahead of you to practice!
Also meditating during the day say maybe wake up an hour earlier in the morning can help to remove a lot of the "noise" or random thoughts that may build up over the course of your day, which helps make meditation a little less chaotic. Starting your day with a light breathing exercise say 10 to 15min helps brighten your day too! Your ready for anything after that!
Hm, cool. I thought that breathing is not that necesarry :P. I will breathe now !
I learned meditation from book, I don't remember exactly which one, I think
it was Sri Ramana Maharshi - Be As You Are .
I'm really positive after meditation actually, I was unsure what happened to me durning last time just :P.
Seems like very good thing to do, should start my day earlier.
How long have you been meditating? What are out of body experiences like?
I have been practicing for 13 years. What are obe's like?? Have you ever seen a road runner cartoon?? HaHa
So long  , must have a lot of interesting stories  .
Yeah, brings back nostalgia !
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HeartAndMind said:
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Forever White Belt said:
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HeartAndMind said:
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O yea I forgot to say that Aikido is an awesome martial art be sure to add your breathing to your Chin-na and your throws in class it should increase your fighting power 200%!!
Where have you learned your breathing techniques from?? You may be getting in a little over your head with this kind of practice, especially if you are recovering from some powerful experiences. Take things slowly and remember that your whole life is ahead of you to practice!
Also meditating during the day say maybe wake up an hour earlier in the morning can help to remove a lot of the "noise" or random thoughts that may build up over the course of your day, which helps make meditation a little less chaotic. Starting your day with a light breathing exercise say 10 to 15min helps brighten your day too! Your ready for anything after that!
Hm, cool. I thought that breathing is not that necesarry :P. I will breathe now !
I learned meditation from book, I don't remember exactly which one, I think
it was Sri Ramana Maharshi - Be As You Are .
I'm really positive after meditation actually, I was unsure what happened to me durning last time just :P.
Seems like very good thing to do, should start my day earlier.
How long have you been meditating? What are out of body experiences like?
I have been practicing for 13 years. What are obe's like?? Have you ever seen a road runner cartoon?? HaHa
So long , must have a lot of interesting stories .
Yeah, brings back nostalgia !
Yea, teaching this kind of thing brings you into all kinds of odd circles of people... I started really young, and another name for Qi Gung is Immortality Practice. Because Tai Qi and Qi Gung are meant to prolong your life I have taught groups of elderly friends at the very end of their lifes (late 80's) and old people can say some funny shit!! Especially when they think they might not live to see tomorrow.
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The Universe is not only queerer than we suppose, but queerer than we can suppose.
J. B. S. Haldane
The quest of the absolute leads into the four-dimensional world.
Sir Arthur Stanley Eddington
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