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 Mr. Skippy
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OrgoneConclusion said:
Chroniclers trying to make a point pick & choose symptoms and descriptions that appeal to them.
Admitting it is the first step.
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Mattm
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This could be illogical but really what isn't.
Could be?
COULD BE?
COULD BE?! 
hahaha yes could be! What if it turns out that i'm right. Then what! But logic will say that i'm not and that I have a delusional belief system even though I already knew that 
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Good bye to everyone, my time here was well spent, and I think I have gained a lot from coming here. The internet has become to much of a priority for me, and I think I am ready to let it go for a while. < Who am I kidding...I'm hooked for life.
Edited by Mattm (04/25/10 10:51 AM)
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jivJaN
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OrgoneConclusion said:
There are some experiential similarities due to the fact that our brains are almost identical - no surprise there.
However, many people have very dark and terrifying 'afterlife' experiences that are rarely mentioned in the popular literature BECAUSE THEY DO NOT FIT the fluffy bunny image of 'heaven'.
Chroniclers trying to make a point pick & choose symptoms and descriptions that appeal to them.
Note that not one Muslim has ever seen Jesus nor one Christian has ever seen Mohamed (unless they were brought up one way and later converted). What does this fact alone tell us?
I understand.
But.. there are cases where the individual shows no brain activity whatsoever.
And.. many cases in which the individual is very very religious yet comes back with a report that kinda reminds me of a psychedelic experience.
To be most honest , i think the NDEs most resemble and ayahuasca experience.
but yea.. nvmnd. Im just ranting a tiny lil bit..
anywho
how can you logically explain the reason for the similarities in NDES being the , as you say almost identical structure of our brain , if we register no brain activity.
For me.. the only logical thing to assume is either that our devices that measure brain activity could be inaccurate , or to assume that it has nothing to do with the brain.
Or.. to simply say that a bunch of people , including doctors are lying.
I'd like to know how you approach it.
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All my posts in this forum are strictly fictional.
They are derived from an acute mental illness , from which i am forced to lie compulsively.
I have never induced any kind of mind altering substance in my life and i have no intentions whatsoever of doing anything illegal.
If I have ever suggested such a thing it would have most likely been , due to my personality disorder and i probably do not remember it at all..
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MushroomTrip
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 Re: Here's just a fun idea to poke around with  [Re: Mattm]
#12452846 - 04/25/10 11:15 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mattm said:
Well it seems that when people die they tend to see a white light is it? Well what if that white light is rebirth and you are about to be born again. Does that mean when we bring people back from death we are actually causing miscarriages and are disturbing that natural order of things? I mean think about it. When someone dies it would make sense that all memories of their past lives are wiped in order to start out on a clean slate and gain more knowledge from the previous generation. I used to hear this saying that every time someone dies a baby is born. Any thoughts? This could be illogical but really what isn't.
What's the "natural order" of things?
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All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs
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Ahimsa
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Re: Here's just a fun idea to poke around with [Re: Mattm]
#12453442 - 04/25/10 02:35 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I like to think that birth arises out of the need nature has to express itself. Thus not for every birth/death is there a need for a renewal to keep the balance so to speak. The balance can be found in the causative field. Here, causes and effects MUST equal out! I think.
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auxiliary
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Re: Here's just a fun idea to poke around with [Re: Mattm]
#12453655 - 04/25/10 03:11 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mattm said:
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OrgoneConclusion said:
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This could be illogical but really what isn't.
Could be?
COULD BE?
COULD BE?!
hahaha yes could be! What if it turns out that i'm right. Then what! But logic will say that i'm not and that I have a delusional belief system even though I already knew that
It's not logical or illogical until we stumble upon some confirming or contradictory evidence.
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crumblebum
I DISAGREE
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Re: Here's just a fun idea to poke around with [Re: auxiliary]
#12454130 - 04/25/10 04:25 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Curing lupus WOULD make the sun collapse, but since it's never lupus, it doesn't matter.
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auxiliary
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Re: Here's just a fun idea to poke around with [Re: crumblebum]
#12455233 - 04/25/10 07:56 PM (3 years, 30 days ago) |
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lol
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Mattm
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Re: Here's just a fun idea to poke around with [Re: auxiliary]
#12455414 - 04/25/10 08:29 PM (3 years, 30 days ago) |
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auxiliary said:
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Mattm said:
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OrgoneConclusion said:
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This could be illogical but really what isn't.
Could be?
COULD BE?
COULD BE?!
hahaha yes could be! What if it turns out that i'm right. Then what! But logic will say that i'm not and that I have a delusional belief system even though I already knew that
It's not logical or illogical until we stumble upon some confirming or contradictory evidence.
In essence I could safely believe this logic to be true due to the fact it can't be disproved or proved. It's all just speculation but there's really no point in me pondering over it because I will most likely never know whether or not this happens. That's why I like ideas like these because it's fun to think about but it serves as a small amount of purpose in my life...or maybe it doesn't who knows.
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Good bye to everyone, my time here was well spent, and I think I have gained a lot from coming here. The internet has become to much of a priority for me, and I think I am ready to let it go for a while. < Who am I kidding...I'm hooked for life.
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 deCypher
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Re: Here's just a fun idea to poke around with [Re: Mattm]
#12455523 - 04/25/10 08:46 PM (3 years, 30 days ago) |
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keep ponderin'
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jivJaN
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Re: Here's just a fun idea to poke around with [Re: jivJaN]
#12455529 - 04/25/10 08:47 PM (3 years, 30 days ago) |
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jivJaN said:
Quote:
OrgoneConclusion said:
There are some experiential similarities due to the fact that our brains are almost identical - no surprise there.
However, many people have very dark and terrifying 'afterlife' experiences that are rarely mentioned in the popular literature BECAUSE THEY DO NOT FIT the fluffy bunny image of 'heaven'.
Chroniclers trying to make a point pick & choose symptoms and descriptions that appeal to them.
Note that not one Muslim has ever seen Jesus nor one Christian has ever seen Mohamed (unless they were brought up one way and later converted). What does this fact alone tell us?
I understand.
But.. there are cases where the individual shows no brain activity whatsoever.
And.. many cases in which the individual is very very religious yet comes back with a report that kinda reminds me of a psychedelic experience.
To be most honest , i think the NDEs most resemble and ayahuasca experience.
but yea.. nvmnd. Im just ranting a tiny lil bit..
anywho
how can you logically explain the reason for the similarities in NDES being the , as you say almost identical structure of our brain , if we register no brain activity.
For me.. the only logical thing to assume is either that our devices that measure brain activity could be inaccurate , or to assume that it has nothing to do with the brain.
Or.. to simply say that a bunch of people , including doctors are lying.
I'd like to know how you approach it.
I still want this question answered ! 
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All my posts in this forum are strictly fictional.
They are derived from an acute mental illness , from which i am forced to lie compulsively.
I have never induced any kind of mind altering substance in my life and i have no intentions whatsoever of doing anything illegal.
If I have ever suggested such a thing it would have most likely been , due to my personality disorder and i probably do not remember it at all..
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deCypher
Registered: 02/10/08
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Re: Here's just a fun idea to poke around with [Re: jivJaN]
#12455547 - 04/25/10 08:50 PM (3 years, 30 days ago) |
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I wish I knew, honestly.
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auxiliary
Mr.
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Re: Here's just a fun idea to poke around with [Re: deCypher]
#12455803 - 04/25/10 09:41 PM (3 years, 30 days ago) |
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Maybe if I read it. Meh, maybe.......
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