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Re: I don't understand the butthurt over the Arizona bill [Re: fapjack]
    #12449561 - 04/24/10 03:38 PM (3 years, 26 days ago)

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fapjack said:
Yeah, give even more power to the police and our government, that always works out good.  :rolleyes:
This country has too many fucking laws, we need to take away power from the politicians, not give them more.  Freedom is a good idea, too bad the people that preach it are so full of shit.



I have always talked about taking away power from the Government. Law enforcement has always had the right to verify your Identification under certain circumstances.

And I sure hope your not a liberal, because they are giving the government massive amounts of new powers over the population


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Re: I don't understand the butthurt over the Arizona bill [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #12449565 - 04/24/10 03:38 PM (3 years, 26 days ago)

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who says that it's racial profiling, can you tell us where illegal aliens are from?




i can tell you where they are predominately from. so can the LEO


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Re: I don't understand the butthurt over the Arizona bill [Re: Simplicitry]
    #12449575 - 04/24/10 03:40 PM (3 years, 26 days ago)

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It says check people who strike a "reasonable suspicion."

Let's play "Who Gives US Citizens a Reasonable Suspicion of Being an Illegal Alien?"



Mandating racial profiling ftl.



It's easy anyone, of any race who doesn't have a driver liscence, or ID card when police happen to be carring out procedures that require them to check ID, is under reasonable suspicion




I have no idea who the first guy is, the second is Djimon Honsou or something, he's Haitian (don't know if he's a citizen) and I'm pretty sure the last guy is a white guy pretending to be a mexican, from CSI.

I saw through your ruse.


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Re: I don't understand the butthurt over the Arizona bill [Re: danielx]
    #12449579 - 04/24/10 03:43 PM (3 years, 26 days ago)

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its now a law to carry around identification? hmm, sounds familar.
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it's been a law for more than 50 years, legal immgrants comply with the law


why is it such a problem when 70% of the US wants laws like this yet
with crap like the health care bill when a minority wants it passed
it's a great thing


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Re: I don't understand the butthurt over the Arizona bill [Re: danielx]
    #12449580 - 04/24/10 03:43 PM (3 years, 26 days ago)

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danielx said:
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fapjack said:
Yeah, give even more power to the police and our government, that always works out good.  :rolleyes:
This country has too many fucking laws, we need to take away power from the politicians, not give them more.  Freedom is a good idea, too bad the people that preach it are so full of shit.




that right there is the bottom line.





What the United States Supreme Court said. What the United States Supreme Court held in Hiibel v. Sixth Judicial Dist. Court (2004) 542 U.S. 177, was that a state could make it a crime for a person to refuse to identify himself (i.e., tell the officer his name and address) when lawfully detained for criminal activity.

Your issues should be with the above if anything


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I think we should cut all the social parasites from their welfare checks. Then they will either find a means to support themselves or starve to death, either of wich is good for the economy and society.

I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal."


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Re: I don't understand the butthurt over the Arizona bill [Re: danielx] * 1
    #12449587 - 04/24/10 03:45 PM (3 years, 26 days ago)

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danielx said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
who says that it's racial profiling, can you tell us where illegal aliens are from?




i can tell you where they are predominately from. so can the LEO





so you are in fact the one that's racially profiling, glad to see your racism finally showing


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Re: I don't understand the butthurt over the Arizona bill [Re: DragonChaser] * 1
    #12449588 - 04/24/10 03:45 PM (3 years, 26 days ago)

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But only over brown people.

I'm definitely all for lessening the power of the government and police, but all it's requiring (I believe) is that immigrants carry proof they are here legally.  It doesn't give police the right to stop and search every brown person, they just have to have ID.




Every time you post you come off as a racist, every time.


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Re: I don't understand the butthurt over the Arizona bill [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #12449605 - 04/24/10 03:48 PM (3 years, 26 days ago)

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danielx said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
who says that it's racial profiling, can you tell us where illegal aliens are from?




i can tell you where they are predominately from. so can the LEO





so you are in fact the one that's racially profiling, glad to see your racism finally showing




come now prisoner. you are an educated fellow, you and I both know exactly what this bill does.

I mean, what the fuck is reasonable suspicion? The hypocrisy on the shroomery is hilarous.

Everyone who supports this law, do you also support an officers right to search your car because he has reasonable suspicion you have drugs? :lol:


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Re: I don't understand the butthurt over the Arizona bill [Re: Simplicitry]
    #12449610 - 04/24/10 03:49 PM (3 years, 26 days ago)

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What the United States Supreme Court said. What the United States Supreme Court held in Hiibel v. Sixth Judicial Dist. Court (2004) 542 U.S. 177, was that a state could make it a crime for a person to refuse to identify himself (i.e., tell the officer his name and address) when lawfully detained for criminal activity.

Your issues should be with the above if anything




I do have an issue with the above, so I guess that makes me biased? I have a problem with almost anything that further gives power to LEO and the government.

And let me make it clear, im fully against illegal immigration.


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Re: I don't understand the butthurt over the Arizona bill [Re: Rocker232]
    #12449619 - 04/24/10 03:51 PM (3 years, 26 days ago)

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But only over brown people.

I'm definitely all for lessening the power of the government and police, but all it's requiring (I believe) is that immigrants carry proof they are here legally.  It doesn't give police the right to stop and search every brown person, they just have to have ID.




Every time you post you come off as a racist, every time.




I literally haven't posted anything racist in months, possibly since '09.  I toned it down and dropped it.

But seriously... the vast majority of illegal immigrants in the US are not Caucasian, which is why I said "brown people".


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Re: I don't understand the butthurt over the Arizona bill [Re: DragonChaser] * 1
    #12449624 - 04/24/10 03:52 PM (3 years, 26 days ago)

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But seriously... the vast majority of illegal immigrants in the US are not Caucasian, which is why I said "brown people".




point proven. You are using the power of deduction just as LEO will.


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Re: I don't understand the butthurt over the Arizona bill [Re: danielx]
    #12449626 - 04/24/10 03:52 PM (3 years, 26 days ago)

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I mean, what the fuck is reasonable suspicion? The hypocrisy on the shroomery is hilarous.





Not being able to speak English?


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Re: I don't understand the butthurt over the Arizona bill [Re: danielx]
    #12449628 - 04/24/10 03:53 PM (3 years, 26 days ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
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danielx said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
who says that it's racial profiling, can you tell us where illegal aliens are from?




i can tell you where they are predominately from. so can the LEO





so you are in fact the one that's racially profiling, glad to see your racism finally showing




come now prisoner. you are an educated fellow, you and I both know exactly what this bill does.

I mean, what the fuck is reasonable suspicion? The hypocrisy on the shroomery is hilarous.

Everyone who supports this law, do you also support an officers right to search your car because he has reasonable suspicion you have drugs? :lol:



They are not even close to the same thing. Come again, but this time with something intelligent. Police still can't check anyones ID outside the laws that exsisted before.

Just like legal search and seizure


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I think we should cut all the social parasites from their welfare checks. Then they will either find a means to support themselves or starve to death, either of wich is good for the economy and society.

I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal."


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Re: I don't understand the butthurt over the Arizona bill [Re: DragonChaser]
    #12449631 - 04/24/10 03:53 PM (3 years, 26 days ago)

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DragonChaser said:
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Rocker232 said:
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DragonChaser said:
But only over brown people.

I'm definitely all for lessening the power of the government and police, but all it's requiring (I believe) is that immigrants carry proof they are here legally.  It doesn't give police the right to stop and search every brown person, they just have to have ID.




Every time you post you come off as a racist, every time.




I literally haven't posted anything racist in months, possibly since '09.  I toned it down and dropped it.

But seriously... the vast majority of illegal immigrants in the US are not Caucasian, which is why I said "brown people".




Blacks are browner.  :shrug:


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Re: I don't understand the butthurt over the Arizona bill [Re: danielx]
    #12449633 - 04/24/10 03:53 PM (3 years, 26 days ago)

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But seriously... the vast majority of illegal immigrants in the US are not Caucasian, which is why I said "brown people".




point proven. You are using the power of deduction just as LEO will.




And if you were a cop in Mexico, looking for illegal American immigrants, how would you go about doing it?
Refer back to my original post if you need help.


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Re: I don't understand the butthurt over the Arizona bill [Re: DragonChaser]
    #12449637 - 04/24/10 03:54 PM (3 years, 26 days ago)

I say we just shoot anyone who looks like they're Mexican.


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Re: I don't understand the butthurt over the Arizona bill [Re: Simplicitry]
    #12449648 - 04/24/10 03:56 PM (3 years, 26 days ago)

I'm a libertarian.  I hate the republican party and the democratic party.  I hate the repuplicans more though as they seem to be bigger douchebags in most instances, though not by much.


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Re: I don't understand the butthurt over the Arizona bill [Re: Simplicitry]
    #12449652 - 04/24/10 03:57 PM (3 years, 26 days ago)

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so what do you propose? That cops now have the right to walk up to any brown person the street and ask for identification? Should turn out well...





Any brown person who can't speak English... sounds like a good indicator to me that they're not a legal citizen, since you have to be able to speak English to get citizenship.

And the references to Nazi Germany are so played out... they don't even apply in this case because Jews were German citizens, illegal immigrants are here because they broke the law.

And thanks Pris.



You are a racist. Which is your right. I don't care.

The bill isn't

This isn't about brown people.

It's about illegals




I'm not really racist.  How many times have you met Caucasian illegal immigrants?  I've never met one.  All the foreign Caucasian people I've met in the US were working and living or studying here legally.
On the other hand, I've run into hundreds and hundreds of brown skinned, non-English speaking, central American illegals, and a handful of illegal southeast Asian immigrants.

It's not racism, it comes down to numbers and statistics.


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Re: I don't understand the butthurt over the Arizona bill [Re: deCypher]
    #12449655 - 04/24/10 03:57 PM (3 years, 26 days ago)

You should be glad to know that Poid's safe.

He looks like a fish.  :shrug:

Poid defender.

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Re: I don't understand the butthurt over the Arizona bill [Re: Swyfty Swyf]
    #12449657 - 04/24/10 03:58 PM (3 years, 26 days ago)

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You should be glad to know that Poid's safe.

He looks like a fish.  :shrug:

Poid defender.

JK, I like Poid.






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