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OfflineMaurer


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Re: I don't understand the butthurt over the Arizona bill [Re: DieCommie]
    #12485929 - 04/30/10 11:06 PM (3 years, 20 days ago)

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Mr. Cypher said:
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shroommachine said:
I don't understand how any human being can be denied asylum on any grounds





yeah... I'm seeking asylum, I just killed 3000 innocent people with a car bomb




One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.




You are only a freedom fighter if you fight for freedom.



Fighting for freedon in another country isn't fighting for freedom. I'm pretty sure America has done a lot for Mexico and they aren't fighting for any thing but a free ride. Lie cheat and steal is the way for mexico. It's their culture and governments way.


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Re: I don't understand the butthurt over the Arizona bill [Re: Maurer]
    #12485939 - 04/30/10 11:08 PM (3 years, 20 days ago)

If America would only legalize drugs... our problems would be solved.  :syringe:


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Re: I don't understand the butthurt over the Arizona bill [Re: Aleph1]
    #12485942 - 04/30/10 11:08 PM (3 years, 20 days ago)

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Aleph1 said:
Jailed for tax evasion? Where do you come up with this?




oh wow... so all this has been you talking out of your ass and citing
opinions from blogggers at the NYT website because you show that you
dont know about this shit with that one statement, shit, loads of people
are jailed every year for tax evasion, here's a recent example that's
been in the news a lot

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/04/25/2227250.htm


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Its estimated that illegal immigrants are subsidizing the social security and medicare programs with 7 billion a year.





it's estimated that they pull $104billion from social service services every year, just on the federal level, so how is using an additional $95billion more than they put in actually benefiting anyone but them


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"Our assumption is that about three-quarters of other-than-legal immigrants pay payroll taxes," said Stephen C. Goss, Social Security's chief actuary, using the agency's term for illegal immigration.





Key words "OUR ASSUMPTION"


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Re: I don't understand the butthurt over the Arizona bill [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #12485996 - 04/30/10 11:16 PM (3 years, 20 days ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
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Aleph1 said:
Jailed for tax evasion? Where do you come up with this?




oh wow... so all this has been you talking out of your ass and citing
opinions from blogggers at the NYT website because you show that you
dont know about this shit with that one statement, shit, loads of people
are jailed every year for tax evasion, here's a recent example that's
been in the news a lot

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/04/25/2227250.htm


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Its estimated that illegal immigrants are subsidizing the social security and medicare programs with 7 billion a year.





it's estimated that they pull $104billion from social service services every year, just on the federal level, so how is using an additional $95billion more than they put in actually benefiting anyone but them


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"Our assumption is that about three-quarters of other-than-legal immigrants pay payroll taxes," said Stephen C. Goss, Social Security's chief actuary, using the agency's term for illegal immigration.





Key words "OUR ASSUMPTION"




I was referring to the correlation between illegal immigrants and citizens being jailed for tax evasion, and nothing else. I haven't a clue why you linked me the article about Wesley Snipes.



Where do you get this $104 billion estimate. Am I suppose to just take your word?


Yes assumption, not of some dick online but Social Security's chief actuary which means it carries some weight as expert testimony.


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Re: I don't understand the butthurt over the Arizona bill [Re: Aleph1]
    #12486262 - 05/01/10 12:03 AM (3 years, 20 days ago)

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

Nuff said.


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Re: I don't understand the butthurt over the Arizona bill [Re: LicHmicrO]
    #12486498 - 05/01/10 12:49 AM (3 years, 19 days ago)

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shroommachine said:
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shroommachine said:
If you live in Mexico, you are in genuine danger.



Bullshit. Just an exuse





Yes, it's bullshit excuse for seeking a better life.





a better live in a country with more than double the unemployment? why
dont they make their lives better there, do you even understand what
they mean by better life? they come here, earn money, send it back and
will use it for their retirement, I worked with one that bragged about
the home he owns there, he doesnt rent it, pays a care taker and still
has the utilities turned on, fuck these fuckers, they have the cash to
get them across the border to come work here, if they dont make it, they
pay again... many are wealthy by mexican standards

we should be seizing their bank mexican accounts and taking the money
back under the RICO Act





Well said :congrats:

I worked with many Mexicans in the factories here
(they were all here legally on work permits)
and none of them planned on staying here
they were here to work for as long as they could
live together under one roof, and send money back home

These people were doing it the right way
and I have no real issues with them doing that
since they are paying local and federal taxes

the illegal ones are not paying their share of taxes
and when they are found should be deported
to the middle of Mexico the day they are caught

no ifs ands or buts about it

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i just wish this could be done in a way that does not violate the fourth and fourteenth constitutional amendment rights of america's true citizens.

other than that im OK with it




As far as I can tell it wont.
If you're a citizen then you should have no concerns.

they arent gonna start stopping people just to check for ID
if you do get stopped and don't have the proper ID on you
then you can be held until they verify your ID

if you are found to be here illegally .... regardless of your race
you get a one way ticket straight back to your home land

:bye:

and I see nothing wrong with that policy

:sorry:


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Re: I don't understand the butthurt over the Arizona bill [Re: DieCommie] * 1
    #12491970 - 05/02/10 03:41 AM (3 years, 18 days ago)

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So why does everyone seem to think this bill allows that :crankey:




Its a knee jerk baseless accusation.  People cant distinguish between their opposition to a law and their opposition to enforcement.  That and they are intellectually lazy, so they just shut down debate by using the 'R' word.  Then they can appeal to emotion and anecdote rather than numbers and demographics.

I read an article today that compared it to what the right did with 'death panels'  Nowhere in health care reform was there ever mentioned a death panel.  Yet tons of foolish right wingers clung to this idea that there gonna pull the plug on grandma.  It was a ridiculous baseless claim.  Now the left is doing the same thing with this bill and racism.  Foolish people getting swept up in emotion.



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Re: I don't understand the butthurt over the Arizona bill [Re: KillaFoRilla]
    #12491975 - 05/02/10 03:44 AM (3 years, 18 days ago)

i heard on tv or somewhere that you don't have to show your ID to anyone?  All this time i thought if someone asked for your ID you had to show it? (in regards to all states)


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Re: I don't understand the butthurt over the Arizona bill [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #12492175 - 05/02/10 05:20 AM (3 years, 18 days ago)

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i heard on tv or somewhere that you don't have to show your ID to anyone?  All this time i thought if someone asked for your ID you had to show it? (in regards to all states)


No it's just a felony. Here I was thinking that all people had to show ID when an officer asks it but according to so many it's just people with skin a little darker than my own. I guess all those times I had to show it were just on april 1st. Silly cops and their fun games.


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Re: I don't understand the butthurt over the Arizona bill [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #12492254 - 05/02/10 06:29 AM (3 years, 18 days ago)

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yea borders are only imaginary lines




"Unfortunately the line you crossed was real, and the plants you brought with you were illegal so im going to have to set your bail at $20,000"

god damn dope huffin hippies


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Re: I don't understand the butthurt over the Arizona bill [Re: shroommachine]
    #12495839 - 05/02/10 10:57 PM (3 years, 18 days ago)

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shroommachine said:
"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

Nuff said.




LOL, what a stupid post.  There are legal ways and work permits to get into the country.  What part of Illegal Immigration don't you understand?


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Re: I don't understand the butthurt over the Arizona bill [Re: despisedicon]
    #12502843 - 05/04/10 03:18 AM (3 years, 16 days ago)

Leave it to Berkley students to go on hunger strike. 

They say they feel fine but lets check back in a week.

Think they will get what they want?


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