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 The Cost of Changing Motor Oil for an Automobile 
#12400147 - 04/15/10 11:02 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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So, I just got an oil change after a +3,000 tach reading with a total +140,300 miles, and looking at the bill it cost me, I can't help but think I should of done it myself....
~What my car looks like, but a photo of a similar one (not mine). I kinda wish I had those rims thou....
And here's the bill I'm concerned about...
^The actual total is $32 for just the oil changing (includes labor and the new oil). The other charges are for other problems that needed to be taken care of, most notable the fluid for the rear differential was the most expensive charge.
One other important thing they did that I didn't even know had to be changed was the rear differential fluid. The mechanic said that it was due at 120,000, which is when I bought the SUV (119,000). I always thought that was permanent and did not need changing. It was expensive at $60, but man was it worth it! It fixed an existing problem of when I accelerated from rest (i.e. at a stoplight), the RPMs/engine who bog down and "hesitate" with a RPM fluoridation stutter and it was slow to accelerate as I gave it gas. Then, I tried it right after the oil change, and it accelerates like a brand-new engine! Feels soooo goood!   
So, if any of you guys have a "hesitation" problem when you accelerate from rest, it could be that the rear differential is slipping inside due to old/no differential fluid. Now I know...
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Anyway, back to motor oil changes....
Is changing oil in a auto really this easy to do?
Step 1) - Buy/gather supplies 4 quarts of new motor oil (is that too little/too much?) a large plastic/metal oil pan (to catch the old oil), a large gallon plastic jug (to put used oil in)
a crescent wrench (which I own), some vinyl gloves (because its super messy), a funnel (for old and new oil pouring), and time (which I have, obviously, since I poast here).
Step 2) - Put on gloves, place pan directly under large hex nut under the pan. Then, take crescent wrench and loosen nut. Let all oil pour out completely.
Step 3) - Re-tighten oil drain bolt back on with wrench. Don't over-tighten, but not too loose either. Snug tightness.
Step 4) - Using a funnel and the large gallon jug, pour old oil into jug.
Step 5) - Clean funnel with a shop paper towel, then open the hood then the oil cap. Using funnel, pour all four quart bottles (again, too much, too little) into the oil fill inlet. Seal cap after pour.
Step 6) - Properly dispose of the oil in jug at a mechanics shop (?). I really don't know where you are supposed to take old oil.....can someone fill me in?
Oil Change Done.
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Of course, when I get the oil change, they also change the oil filter free-of-charge (on the bill its "free", but its actually included in the price for the oil, I think). So maybe because they change the oil filter too, its worth it.
What do you guys think? Is $37 for an oil change and oil filter change worth it? And is the oil filter supposed to be changed *every* oil change?
How much do you DIY guys pay for an oil change, for all supplies and tools?
Oil makes all the Differential.
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 Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#12400227 - 04/15/10 11:17 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's a rip off in my book. For 37 bucks you can buy good oil that doesn't need to be changed tell 5 to 6000 miles and a filter that actually works. not to mention for I always put in some restore. I usually only spend about 30 on all that. 37 dollars for reg oil and a crap ass filter is just lazy in my book.
Side note. You can change just a filter every 2000 miles and the oil will last longer but don't ever change the oil and not the filter. Doing this just puts all the junk that was being cleaned out of the old oil right into the new oil.
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 Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: livenotonevil]
#12400266 - 04/15/10 11:22 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yup, that was helpful...thanks.
So, how much does it usually cost for an oil change (with filter)?
And that makes sense about the filter needs to be changed WITH the oil. If not, all that crap will be put into the new oil.....gotta remember that one.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#12400323 - 04/15/10 11:30 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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You can buy reg oil and a reg filter for like 20 bucks. I've hit sales a checkers and shit where it was 13. Ya. $13, oil and filter.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#12400329 - 04/15/10 11:31 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah you got robbed. Usually costs 55 - 65 bucks at the shop, and about 35 to do it yourself. Doing it yourself really is that simple though. Drain oil, replace filter, put bolt back in place, and fill her up. Just know what type of oil your ride needs, how much it needs, and when you ask for the filter tell them what kinda ride you got and they will pull it out for you or tell you which one to grab. Nice and easy, so are your breaks if you feel like saving more money. Only costs 40 to 60 bucks for the pads instead of paying a couple hundred at auto shops, and it's another easy few step job.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: Ganjabonga]
#12400908 - 04/16/10 01:25 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Man there's really not much more than a few dollars in price. I've just always done it myself because that's what my Pop taught me to do. He also taught me other basics like changing brakes, alternators and starters. It sprang an interest in me and I can honestly say that I can work on anything in or on a car. Except the inside of a transmission. There's a lot goin on in there! I have saved my self thousands in labor costs over the years.
My suggestion to you is to buy a Chilton manual for your SUV. They're less than 20$ I think. I think you might enjoy the work and the money you save. It is a rewarding hobby.
BTW; Check your owners manual, it will tell you how much oil to put in.
What year is that Blazer? I had a 99 and my folks had a 96. If you have any problems and you want to fix it your self PM me.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#12400990 - 04/16/10 01:38 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Is $37 for an oil change and oil filter change worth it?
No, I dont think it is.
It really boils down to how valuable your time is. When I was a pizza driver my time wasnt valuable at all, so I did nearly all auto repair myself. Now I have a very time consuming job and so I am willing to spend alot more to not work on it myself. Still, $37 is too rich for my blood.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: dangermike78]
#12401448 - 04/16/10 02:56 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks a lot Dangermike, that's really helpful. I wish my Dad taught me Auto stuff, he taught me some, but not enough....He did teach me about plumbing, which is very useful, so I got that instead....
Also, I have a 1998 Chevy Blazer LS 4WD 4-door, just to let you know. Its a good vechical, kinda bad on fuel efficiency, but not too bad for a SUV.
I'll definitely PM you if I have any specific problems in the future, but right now, it runs great. There is this electrical problem with my rear wipers, but its no big deal...I don't use them anyway.
To DieCom:
Yeah, you are right, you are paying for their time when you get the oil change. I have some good extra time on occasion, which I should of taken advantage of.
But I do feel kinda good supporting a mechanic. I mean, they need money too to survive. Its part of having a job, and in these days, people spending money in the economy is not as common as before the recession. So, I guess theres a dim sliver lining.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#12402386 - 04/16/10 09:11 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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lets see, an oil change every 3 months at 40 bucks is 160 a year. doing it by yourself saves you 80 bucks a year.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: TexasMyco]
#12402642 - 04/16/10 10:55 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ha! Those rear wipers are worthless on those things. Mine and my parents both went out. Those Blazers are about 50/50 when it comes to dependability.My transmission fell out at 154k if I remember and my parents motor went out at 100k due to a oil pump/warning light failure. I got rid of mine because my 92 Jimmy trans shit out at almost the same time. My in laws have one the same year as yours, no problems what so ever. IDK?
When's the last time you had your transmission fluid changed? Your'e supposed to do that around 30k. That's any easy change also,just fuckin' messy. Transmissions are always neglected
Honda CRV?
Just wanted to put that bug in your ear for your next SUV
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: dangermike78]
#12408618 - 04/17/10 02:00 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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If you go to Autozone or something similar, they always, yes alwayshave a sale on a 5 quart jug of non-syn oil with a good filter, usually Fram, for $14-$16 dollars. I always buy there for my oil/filter. They probably use shitty cheap oil with a crappy filter. It's incredibly easy to change your own oil, especially on an SUV.
I do it on my civic no problem.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: bardleyrichard]
#12409235 - 04/17/10 04:02 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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An oil change might run you 20$ on something that big if you buy the oil change deals at kragens/autozone etc.
On an older Toyota camry I was spending about $12.50-15.00 per oil change.
The differential fluid you can change yourself in a fairly similar fashion if you have some time.
A big bottle of that 80-90w gear oil is super cheap(3$-5$?).
My girlfriend just took her car into a cheap low-end mechanic for a 20$ oil change special and when she left the lot most of her dash warning lights were all lit up, and are still there even after resetting them. At least they robbed you on paper and didn't rig your car up(or did they?).
It's a good practice to get familiar with the gadgets you use on a daily basis. A full understanding of how things operate inside and out will benefit you in many different ways throughout your experience. Shouldn't have to depend on someone else for the basics anyways!!!
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#12410215 - 04/17/10 07:06 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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The oil change was $32 plus tax.
Going to the store, buying say 4/5 Qts of oil and a filter and then crawling under the car and wrestling with that shit (extra expense for eye wash) then disposing of the old oil properly.
There is no fucking way doing all that is worth saving $32.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: zappaisgod]
#12410233 - 04/17/10 07:08 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Oh yeah, they also greased 10 fittings as part of the $32. Come on, you have to be crazy to change your own oil.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: zappaisgod]
#12410255 - 04/17/10 07:12 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I sincerely hope you are being sarcastic.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: bardleyrichard]
#12410319 - 04/17/10 07:27 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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No. Read the invoice. He paid $32 plus tax for a 10 point lube and oil and filter change. 6 Qts Castrol costs $10, filter about $4. So for $18 bucks they performed the labor, lubed 10 zerts on the chassis and disposed of the waste oil. If you don't think that's money well spent you have no respect for your own time.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: zappaisgod]
#12410364 - 04/17/10 07:40 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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ive changed the oil on things from motorcycles to semi trucks/tractors/forklifts and let me tell you -- its no big deal on any of them. greasing fittings isn't hard either, you can get a tube of lithium grease or whatever your repair manual suggests at the auto store for like 4$.
if you don't have a copy of the repair manual for your vehicle, your no longer one of the cool kids. buy one for your vehicle and ill be your best friend. peer pressure, peer pressure.
a lot more than an oil change could be done regularly to keep your vehicle in top shape as well, preventing further damage and larger bills later at the mechanic.
I cant tell you how many times I got ripped for hundreds and thousands of dollars at mechanics. How much do you guys pay for your vehicle every year at the mechanic?
I have etched parts that I diagnosed were broken, and went in to get it fixed cause I didn't want to do the labor (at least figure it out on your own!)
only to find that they just cleaned up the original part and rigged it to work for a short time, meanwhile charging me 300$ for the new part.
When I was diagnosing and doing my own basic maintenance, I spent on average about 800$ less than I was spending on my car previously. For only making $3k/year and trying to scrape by, that's a good chunk of cash to use for other things.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: cyanophilus]
#12410430 - 04/17/10 08:00 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Oh he got hosed alright, just not for the oil and lube. $20 for two minilights and $60 for the differential. That's what all these Jiffy lube places do. They try to get you to buy something else like that or a tranny fluid or an air filter. But the oil change alone is a great deal.
I know they aren't hard to do but the last time I did my own was before all these Jiffylube, etc. places popped up. Just don't get the extra shit.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: zappaisgod]
#12410456 - 04/17/10 08:06 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said:
No. Read the invoice. He paid $32 plus tax for a 10 point lube and oil and filter change. 6 Qts Castrol costs $10, filter about $4. So for $18 bucks they performed the labor, lubed 10 zerts on the chassis and disposed of the waste oil. If you don't think that's money well spent you have no respect for your own time.
Also, it's *zerks
5 minutes to grease the zerks.
5 minutes to pick up the socket/wrench, bend over, lay down, loosen the drain plug, walk away for ~30 minutes and eat a sandwich. ~5 minutes to come back, tighten the drain plug, take off the filter and rest on the drain pan. Put new filter on. Pour new oil into valve cover, and pour the drain pan into the jug from the new oil.
Done.
Then just on your way to the store take your used oil to most any auto repair shop or lube shop, or even wal-mart/target. They take oil for free.
I don't think you realize how easy/cheap it actually is. $32 is a rip-off for what is being done. If you want to spend twice as much money for shittier oil, and a worthless filter, go for it.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: bardleyrichard]
#12410525 - 04/17/10 08:16 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Uh huh. 15 minutes? I don't think so.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: zappaisgod]
#12410558 - 04/17/10 08:25 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I know so, I just changed my oil last week. I mean, unscrewing a bolt, screwing it back in, and doing the same with a filter, plus the time it takes to pour the oil shouldn't take long at all.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: bardleyrichard]
#12410825 - 04/17/10 09:31 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've done it myself and I know it isn't that big a deal. Several times. I also know it isn't 15 minutes and I will gladly pay the 18 bucks to have somebody else do the labor.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: zappaisgod]
#12411666 - 04/18/10 12:24 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Time depends on the vehicle, there's no easy way to change the oil on some vehicles.
I spent about 40 minutes changing the oil on one of my motorcycles, and about 5 minutes changing the oil on one of my scooters. 2 hours changing the oil on a peterbuilt semi, 30 minutes changing the oil on a big dodge truck.
I usually accomplish 5-10 tasks on the vehicle at the same time in a matter of an hour or two and get most of the maintenance done and gone. Then I have another 3 months or so before I need to spend and hour or two on the weekend again.
You will save money immediately and in the long run, but it's not my choice to say what you should do with your money.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: cyanophilus]
#12413460 - 04/18/10 09:39 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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How much money do you have invested in tools?
It may make sense for you to do those things. For the vast majority of people it does not.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: zappaisgod]
#12413732 - 04/18/10 11:14 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I am a broke college student who makes $3k/yr and barely eats, I have a small set of sockets and screwdrivers and that's about it.
I am still able to do about 80% of my own repairs, and im a complete newbie to vehicle mechanics.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: cyanophilus] 1
#12414284 - 04/18/10 01:44 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's great that you don't need a bunch of weird specialty tools for most repairs. Unless you are working on some certain parts, you need like $10-20 in tools (If you want the crappy brands)
But you can change the brakes, change the oil, work on the exhaust, change head/tail lights, change O2sensor (you might need a special socket for that), change the fuel filter, and probably a lot more that I can't think of with a socket set and a couple screwdrivers.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: bardleyrichard] 1
#12414475 - 04/18/10 02:11 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have replaced just about everything under the hood of my Camry that didn't require lifting the engine.
Radiator, water pump, power steering column, power steering reservoir, thousands of tubes and filters and gaskets, greased chassis, greased CV boots, etc.
I bought my own radiator online and installed it for 340$ less than the mechanic would have, and in about 20 minutes(including draining and removing the old one). 4 bolts, 2-4 tubes. yes its that easy on almost all vehicles.
Seriously, unless you own a car that needs the engine removed to do maintenance, why not do it yourself? A lot of repairs are "basic" but are made to look complicated by mechanics who don't want to lose business and monkeys who stare into the pile of wires and convey their confusion.
Obviously there are going to be some repairs you can't do on your own, and a mechanic would be required. But the majority of people would be able to do the majority of maintenance with a little bit of get-off-your-ass syndrome.
I suggest anyone who wants to save around 1,000$/year pick up a repair manual online for the vehicle you own, and start doing your own basic maintenance. Obviously, you need to read what the job requires and if your able to even do it.
Crawling under your vehicle and greasing your CV boots might mean the difference between a 4$ tube of grease and a 600$ automotive bill because they dried out and busted. Why wait 'til your next oilchange to have someone crawl under there and check them out? Might also be your life on the line if it got bad enough. Wouldn't be fun to lose control of your front wheels on the freeway.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: cyanophilus]
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I totally agree. I actually believe that every high-school should have a mandatory shop class on how to repair/maintain basic parts on an automobile, that would be taught to EVERYONE, including women and nerds (and hot nerd babes).
But it really comes down to Do you wanna do it yourself and save money, or do you trust someone else doing it for a small fortune?
For me, I will be doing these oil changes myself. The money saved from doing it myself trumps the amount of time, effort and trouble saved from paying someone to do it.
But like you said Cyan, some things are not easy to do by yourself, like jobs that require specialty tools or large/expensive machines like a auto-lift or a tire-balancer.
But for oil changes, anyone with a socket/crescent wrench, a pan, a oil filter tool and filter, and a couple other things can do it with little effort and a little time.
And Its worth the effort.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: zappaisgod]
#12419182 - 04/19/10 10:08 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Uh huh. 15 minutes? I don't think so.
I have a 95 blazer and the last time I did my oil it took my around 20 minutes. That includes putting the old oil back into the new bottles. It is that easy on most SUV's.
I did my own radiator as well. Four hoses. about six bolts and it slides right out. I had never done a radiator before. Took me about an hour.
My point just goes along with whats been stated. With a little get-off-your-ass juice you can save a lot of money.
As for tools I did all of this with a flat head screwdriver and a wrench(the kind that changes size with a little movement of the thumb).
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Nice dude!
Its good to hear guys who aren't familiar with tools, autos, and such do oil changes. Puts lazy guys like me to shame.
Oh, and I wanna to fill ya in on this....
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...and a wrench (the kind that changes size with a little movement of the thumb).
The name if the wrench you are thinking of is called a crescent wrench. Like you said, it has a rough thumb wheel near the jaws for adjusting the distance between the fixed top jaw and the adjustable jaw bottom. That is one of the most important tools I own, and can be used frequently on a auto. I use it all the time for other things too.
Keep up the good work Liveno
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: zappaisgod]
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If you don't think that's money well spent you have no respect for your own time.
I think you may have forgotten how the other half lives. $18 for roughly a half hour of work? I doubt my time will ever be more valuable than that.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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Nice dude!
Its good to hear guys who aren't familiar with tools, autos, and such do oil changes. Puts lazy guys like me to shame.
Oh, and I wanna to fill ya in on this....
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you said:
...and a wrench (the kind that changes size with a little movement of the thumb).
The name if the wrench you are thinking of is called a crescent wrench. Like you said, it has a rough thumb wheel near the jaws for adjusting the distance between the fixed top jaw and the adjustable jaw bottom. That is one of the most important tools I own, and can be used frequently on a auto. I use it all the time for other things too.
Keep up the good work Liveno
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"Crescent" is a brand name. They're called adjustable wrenches.
No mechanic that earns a living with his tools would use one. It's considered a "wrench of last resort".
Most people don't even realize there is a right way to use them.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#12425006 - 04/20/10 08:26 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've made all of my money with my tools and there is an adjustable wrench in my box that gets used all the time. I have 5 different lengths and I'll tell ya they've all helped and not as a last resort. It's been around for a couple hundred years for a reason.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: dangermike78]
#12425016 - 04/20/10 08:30 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've made all of my money with my tools and there is an adjustable wrench in my box that gets used all the time. I have 5 different lengths and I'll tell ya they've all helped and not as a last resort. It's been around for a couple hundred years for a reason.
I have them as well. I'd be embarrassed to use them on a regular basis. Regular wrenches fit better and are less likely to round the nut or bolt you're using them on.
But hey, good luck to you. Any mechanic that uses them on anything of mine will be replaced.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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Huh, kinda grouchy in tha mornings? Just stating my opinion Mr. Man.
Hope your day gets better for you.
You've never had a large nut or bolt stuck and not had the right tool and used an adjustable? The large one really come in handy while doing chassis work. A lot cheaper than buying specialty tools for 50+ bucks a pop too.
Obviously you're not a golfer.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: dangermike78]
#12425259 - 04/20/10 10:18 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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ive had crescent wrenches round off nuts and bolts too, about 40% of the time.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: dangermike78]
#12427688 - 04/20/10 07:07 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Huh, kinda grouchy in tha mornings? Just stating my opinion Mr. Man.
Hope your day gets better for you.
You've never had a large nut or bolt stuck and not had the right tool and used an adjustable? The large one really come in handy while doing chassis work. A lot cheaper than buying specialty tools for 50+ bucks a pop too.
Obviously you're not a golfer.
Nope. Not grouchy. I just have a love for things of a mechanical nature and hate to see hacks using the wrong tools. Like those who use the wrong size phillips screwdrivers. Or those that use straight bladed screwdrivers as a chisel.
Buy a good quality tool once, have it for life (discounting breakage). Buy a crap tool, you'll soon buy a better one.
Using a crescent wrench is like using a metric wrench on an American standard bolt. A bad idea.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#12427748 - 04/20/10 07:22 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Meow?
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: dangermike78]
#12427772 - 04/20/10 07:26 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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The lack of cleverness or content in your response is as good as saying I'm right.
Thanks.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#12427905 - 04/20/10 07:56 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nope. Not into piss fights. So all you get is meows from now on.
Meow.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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Using a crescent wrench is like using a metric wrench on an American standard bolt. A bad idea.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: cyanophilus]
#12456334 - 04/25/10 11:09 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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An oil change might run you 20$ on something that big if you buy the oil change deals at kragens/autozone etc
oil is around $4/qt, 5 qts is $20, another $14 for the filter, need to buy
a drain pan for another $8 and you come out better taking it to the oil
change place where you dont get messy for $35, many also lube the
suspension for free, sometimes just a little extra, just make sure to
observe the work to make sure it's done and done right
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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luvdemshrooms said:
Using a crescent wrench is like using a metric wrench on an American standard bolt. A bad idea.
crescent wrenches are directional, you'll strip it if you go the wrong way
with one, the correct direction and you can apply a great deal of torque
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: Prisoner#1]
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An oil change might run you 20$ on something that big if you buy the oil change deals at kragens/autozone etc
oil is around $4/qt, 5 qts is $20, another $14 for the filter, need to buy
a drain pan for another $8 and you come out better taking it to the oil
change place where you dont get messy for $35, many also lube the
suspension for free, sometimes just a little extra, just make sure to
observe the work to make sure it's done and done right
Did you read my quote?
An oilchange deal (5 qts + filter + funnel) = around 20$ at kragens or autozone.
I have seen the deals for as cheap as $12.95.
My friend just purchased one from autozone the other day for his truck, it was $14.95.
...and a drain pan isn't a one time use thing. May as well throw in all the rest of the cost of owning the vehicle as well if your going to include that.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: cyanophilus]
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oil is around $4/qt, 5 qts is $20, another $14 for the filter
I don't know where you buy oil, but I've been to a few autoshops across the country and there is always a deal on 5qts and a filter for less that $16. The drain pan shan't be included, but even if it is, 14+8<32
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many also lube the suspension for free, sometimes just a little extra
Pretty much all newer cars can't be "lubed" since there are no fittings to allow it. What a stupid idea sealed bearings are on a car.
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Prisoner#1 said:just make sure to observe the work to make sure it's done and done right
Lube shops usually have you stay above their work area so you can't really see what they are doing.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: bardleyrichard]
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Prisoner#1 said:just make sure to observe the work to make sure it's done and done right
Lube shops usually have you stay above their work area so you can't really see what they are doing.
That's exactly what happened at JiffyLube....I had to wait in a waiting room. When I went to a local oil changer (it sadly went out of business), I could watch the whole time, right in front of me, which was awesome, because I could ask the guys not working questions and learn something.
But at Jiffy Lube, its all unseen. I just have to trust that they actually did the change, and not just *said* they did it. Should I trust them? There's no real way to know if they did it or not, I just assume they did.
DIY is better in that sense.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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bardleyrichard said:
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Prisoner#1 said:just make sure to observe the work to make sure it's done and done right
Lube shops usually have you stay above their work area so you can't really see what they are doing.
That's exactly what happened at JiffyLube....I had to wait in a waiting room. When I went to a local oil changer (it sadly went out of business), I could watch the whole time, right in front of me, which was awesome, because I could ask the guys not working questions and learn something.
But at Jiffy Lube, its all unseen. I just have to trust that they actually did the change, and not just *said* they did it. Should I trust them? There's no real way to know if they did it or not, I just assume they did.
DIY is better in that sense.
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You ever see those shows/investigations where the reporter would take a car to get the oil changed, and they'd test it and it would have hardly any new oil. They would also not change the filter. Of course this is not at every shop, but at least enough for somebody to catch them doing that.
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What! Are you serious?! The stealing bastards!
First it was the big corporate businesses "pimping out" people for profit, then the auto mechanics?! Where has the business world gone too....
That's it, no more paid Oil changes....Do it myself only for the simple stuff...the other complex stuff, gotta use a mechanic
Sicken stuff they do. 
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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wow yall are complaining over 30 bucks for an oil change... mine cost near a 100 bucks everytime. and its only a turbocharged 4-cyl.... Guess yall would really flip out if your tires cost you close to a 900 bucks to replace and only last 3-4 months...
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Wow! $100 for a oil change?! What the.....
Where did you get it done? Are you sure that's all they did, an oil change?
That seems waaaayyy too high  but seriously, that's a crime if that's all they did....
There's no Waaay.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#12469255 - 04/28/10 01:39 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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my car requires the most expensive fully synthetic oil. and im sure they do some other stuff like fill up washer fluid, and crap like that... i drive over 1000 miles a week, so i cant really skip out on the good oil. i dont get it changedevery 3000 miles like they say. thats a crap mileage point, oil is still good up to 5 or 6k miles. Hell last year i forgot and went 10k on 1 oil change... the car was fine, but ill never do that again. I drive an 04 SAAB 9-3, incase you were wondering why it would be expensive. hell i can only get my transaxle fluid changed at the dealership... God i cant wait to get a new car.
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wow yall are complaining over 30 bucks for an oil change... mine cost near a 100 bucks everytime. and its only a turbocharged 4-cyl.... Guess yall would really flip out if your tires cost you close to a 900 bucks to replace and only last 3-4 months...
There is no good reason you need to spend 100 dollars on an oil change you sir are being riped off. Having a turbocharger has absolutely nothing to do with an oil change. Turbo uses air... not oil.
Oh and before you go off on "my car requires the best oil and the synthetic costs that much mm hmm..." I did my turbocharged 4-cyl Golf and spent $45 on; Pure synthetic oil a super nice frame oil filter and a bottle of Lucas. $100 is pure rip off.
After re-reading this it is a little rude sorry for that. Not trying to rag on anyone just trying to bring awareness to the subject.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: TacoHerder]
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my car requires the most expensive fully synthetic oil. and im sure they do some other stuff like fill up washer fluid, and crap like that... i drive over 1000 miles a week, so i cant really skip out on the good oil. i dont get it changedevery 3000 miles like they say. thats a crap mileage point, oil is still good up to 5 or 6k miles. Hell last year i forgot and went 10k on 1 oil change... the car was fine, but ill never do that again. I drive an 04 SAAB 9-3, incase you were wondering why it would be expensive. hell i can only get my transaxle fluid changed at the dealership... God i cant wait to get a new car.
Do it yourself I'm sure your time is not worth $120 an hour. Maybe it is though. Oh and 3000 miles on pure synthetic is a waste of money. Using Pure synthetic lets you go up to 6000 with no problem. Oh unless you don't do it yourself in witch case they may have given you great oil but they still put on the worlds shitty-est filter. Do it yourself put the brand of oil you want, not just what they carry and use a filter designed for use with synthetic oil. You save money and your oil will last twice as long. Wow, by my calculations your time would have to be worth over $240 dollars an hour to justify not doing this yourself.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#12470185 - 04/28/10 09:12 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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livenotonevil said:Side note. You can change just a filter every 2000 miles and the oil will last longer but don't ever change the oil and not the filter. Doing this just puts all the junk that was being cleaned out of the old oil right into the new oil.
You do not have to change the filter everytime you change the oil, the little bit of oil left in the filter(1 quart) will not hurt anything. If you do this, you are wasting time and money. Usually every other oil change is adequate.
How long you wait to change your oil(say every 5,000 miles) is dependent on the use of the engine. The more extreme/heavier use(trailoring, or Heavy duty applications that cause more stress) requires a closer interval. But for a put-around town beater, every 10,000 miles is fine. Just check the level frequently(every fill up).
You could get a bypass system installed and never have to change the oil again, as it filters the oil down to 1 micron. The tractor trailers now a days are doing this, and are changing oil every 300,000.
Oil changes are the biggest ripoff in the auto repair world. Do it yourself. You will save money, know that it was done right, and feel better knowing you did it.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: livenotonevil]
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wow yall are complaining over 30 bucks for an oil change... mine cost near a 100 bucks everytime. and its only a turbocharged 4-cyl.... Guess yall would really flip out if your tires cost you close to a 900 bucks to replace and only last 3-4 months...
There is no good reason you need to spend 100 dollars on an oil change you sir are being riped off. Having a turbocharger has absolutely nothing to do with an oil change. Turbo uses air... not oil.
Oh and before you go off on "my car requires the best oil and the synthetic costs that much mm hmm..." I did my turbocharged 4-cyl Golf and spent $45 on; Pure synthetic oil a super nice frame oil filter and a bottle of Lucas. $100 is pure rip off.
After re-reading this it is a little rude sorry for that. Not trying to rag on anyone just trying to bring awareness to the subject.
its ok, but having a turbo is a big deal... it needs good oil or it starts to lag. even at the wal-mart it cost close to 50 dollars. i wish i had a reciept to see what exactly it was, but i know it was over 80 for sure.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: bardleyrichard]
#12487950 - 05/01/10 11:56 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Lube shops usually have you stay above their work area so you can't really see what they are doing.
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oil is around $4/qt, 5 qts is $20, another $14 for the filter
I don't know where you buy oil, but I've been to a few autoshops across the country and there is always a deal on 5qts and a filter for less that $16.
and it's not like you cant find oil change specials, online coupons that
give you all that at a service center, firestone frequently has a $9.99
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: Prisoner#1]
#12542722 - 05/11/10 02:18 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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For everything you wold ever want to know about changing your oil, check out the forums at Bob Is The Oil Guy.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: douger] 1
#12542773 - 05/11/10 02:29 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Is everyone ready to shit?!
I take my car to the dealership for oil changes!
Toyota has always done me right, and I'm happy to pay. Plus, I know NOTHING about cars and I have no desire to learn.
I also have a Prius, and I'd be afraid to electorcute myself somehow. The engine compartment is littered with warning signs and shit.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#12586340 - 05/18/10 05:01 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I just learned how to change oil in my car, after paying near $50 twice to have it changed in the fall and winter.
Super easy, filters cost like $5 and oil is maybe 10. overall you save about 60-70% doing it yourself.
I am not mechanically inclined at all, btw.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: PDU]
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congrats! I expected that you in particular would get on board. you're a very DIY oriented person.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: cyanophilus] 1
#12621498 - 05/24/10 07:32 PM (3 years, 27 days ago) |
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So i got my oil changed the other day. Cost me 80 bucks, heres a copy of the reciept.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: TacoHerder]
#12621516 - 05/24/10 07:35 PM (3 years, 27 days ago) |
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bastards charge me 5 bucks just to take my engine cover off. next time ill take that off before i roll up there. I did get the inside of my car cleaned, they air'd up tires, replaces or filled up all fluids, clean windows, and crap like that.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: TacoHerder]
#12622122 - 05/24/10 09:37 PM (3 years, 27 days ago) |
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Synthetic oil? 6 Qts? That's over $40 right there in material.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: zappaisgod]
#12622188 - 05/24/10 09:47 PM (3 years, 27 days ago) |
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yup. must use fully synthetic for my car.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: TacoHerder]
#12622193 - 05/24/10 09:48 PM (3 years, 27 days ago) |
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Why?
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: zappaisgod]
#12622208 - 05/24/10 09:50 PM (3 years, 27 days ago) |
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my car is turbocharged, that and its whats recommended by saab.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: TacoHerder]
#12622278 - 05/24/10 10:03 PM (3 years, 27 days ago) |
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Well then, there you go. Pretty good deal all things considered.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: zappaisgod]
#12622340 - 05/24/10 10:14 PM (3 years, 27 days ago) |
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ya. i did get the inside all cleaned and they filled up washer fluid, air up tires. they woulda checked my trans fluid. but only saab can get to that. they made the bolt or something require a special tool, so only saab dealerships can work on your transmission.... god i cant wait to get a new GTI mk6 or something else, even if the saabs faster than the new GTI's stock. after stage 3 or 4 it wont be.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: TacoHerder]
#12622377 - 05/24/10 10:20 PM (3 years, 27 days ago) |
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just figured it out. Ive put 89k miles on my car since i got it in 07. thats allot of highway miles.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: zappaisgod]
#12624986 - 05/25/10 11:14 AM (3 years, 26 days ago) |
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Synthetic oil? 6 Qts? That's over $40 right there in material.
No It's not. It's maybe $15.
I can't believe this thead is still going.
You Got charged $80 bucks for a syn oil change. That's highway robbery. I do a syn oil change (mind you I only need 4.5 quarts) for around $25. That includes a high end syn oil filter, a bottle of restore and some lucas. $80 and they still use a shitty pinzoil filter.
I guess it's all personal choice but hey if you want to pay an extra $55 to let some goof do you oil change for you... It's your money. And hey, they did vacuum your car for ya.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: livenotonevil]
#12627066 - 05/25/10 06:41 PM (3 years, 26 days ago) |
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im special like that, and i have no where i could even change my own oil. id rather pay a few people then change my oil, replace filter, fill up all the fluids, check tires, dispose of the old oil, and clean the car all by myself out in the 96 degree temp.
i went to a head shop last night. a small perc water bong that was like 10 inches high cost 240 bucks... the same one cost 50 online. now they are pullin some highway robbery there.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: livenotonevil]
#12627279 - 05/25/10 07:13 PM (3 years, 26 days ago) |
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Synthetic oil? 6 Qts? That's over $40 right there in material.
No It's not. It's maybe $15.
I can't believe this thead is still going.
You Got charged $80 bucks for a syn oil change. That's highway robbery. I do a syn oil change (mind you I only need 4.5 quarts) for around $25. That includes a high end syn oil filter, a bottle of restore and some lucas. $80 and they still use a shitty pinzoil filter.
I guess it's all personal choice but hey if you want to pay an extra $55 to let some goof do you oil change for you... It's your money. And hey, they did vacuum your car for ya.
He posted the bill which charged him $7.25 a Qt. and I found this
6 QTs on sale for $37. Plus shipping.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: zappaisgod]
#12630802 - 05/26/10 10:20 AM (3 years, 25 days ago) |
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Plus shipping.
Did you order your oil online or something?
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: livenotonevil]
#12631706 - 05/26/10 02:20 PM (3 years, 25 days ago) |
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That's where I found that price link (click the word "this" in my post above). Mobil one is fucking expensive.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: TacoHerder]
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So i got my oil changed the other day. Cost me 80 bucks, heres a copy of the reciept.
First off, Thanks for posting your receipt! Good to see my "trend" catching on a little. Didn't see that coming at all. I'm glad you did thou....puts things into proper perspective.
To me, $80 seems really high, even while considering the synthetic oil cost. But hey, its your money, you can spend it anyway you like. And maybe tuned, import cars are just more $ to maintain? Besides, its not all bad: you are supporting the mechanics at Pennzoil, which I think is pretty noble in a recession like this.
You know a lot of US people out there are learning how to do it themselves to save on the cost of oil changing. But if you are willing to pay and help workers, power to ya!
Here's to Change...Oil Change.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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Next time you want to change the rear diff. oil. DO THAT YOURSELF.
60$ JESUS CHRIST.
All quick lube places are there to rape you.
I worked at one for over a year. I detailed cars and worked in the 'pit' under the car changing oil. They laugh at the super high bills customers rack up. I have laughed with them. People happily pay hundreds of dollars for a car wash/wax + fuild change. Remember that next time you guys go out to get your oil changed.
If it cost 19.99 to get your oil changed THAT is worth it.
Its RIDICULOUS how many suckers are out there.
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People working at quick lube places ANY OF THEM are NOT mechanics. REPEAT NOT MECHANICS.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: Odum]
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People happily pay hundreds of dollars for a car wash/wax + fuild change. Remember that next time you guys go out to get your oil changed.
Because some people make more money than you and don't fucking care about trading $100 for someone else to be "in the pit".
It's a fairly simple thing to understand...
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: Odum]
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Odum said:
Next time you want to change the rear diff. oil. DO THAT YOURSELF.
60$ JESUS CHRIST.
All quick lube places are there to rape you.
I worked at one for over a year. I detailed cars and worked in the 'pit' under the car changing oil. They laugh at the super high bills customers rack up. I have laughed with them. People happily pay hundreds of dollars for a car wash/wax + fuild change. Remember that next time you guys go out to get your oil changed.
If it cost 19.99 to get your oil changed THAT is worth it.
Its RIDICULOUS how many suckers are out there.
EDIT.
People working at quick lube places ANY OF THEM are NOT mechanics. REPEAT NOT MECHANICS.
My time is worth far more to me than the money I'd save by changing my own oil. Then on top of that I'd have to dispose of the old oil. It's just not worth it to many people.
Plus..... I'd get my hands oily.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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lol
I enjoy changing my own oil. I dont enjoy getting ripped off. I dont work at a crappy lube place anymore thank you that was when i was 19. It doesnt matter how much money i make though i still like to be good with money and not waste it.
If you want your oil changed and dont care about the $ take your car to a dealership. Preferably where you bought it. Sometimes they have really good deals too.
Those are real mechanics.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: Odum]
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You're right abut the quiklube places, whatever name they use. The base oil & lube is a good deal. Then they spit on some cards and try to get you to buy other shit that you either don't need or isn't a good deal.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: Odum]
#12639746 - 05/27/10 06:25 PM (3 years, 24 days ago) |
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Odum said:
Next time you want to change the rear diff. oil. DO THAT YOURSELF.
60$ JESUS CHRIST.
All quick lube places are there to rape you.
I worked at one for over a year. I detailed cars and worked in the 'pit' under the car changing oil. They laugh at the super high bills customers rack up. I have laughed with them. People happily pay hundreds of dollars for a car wash/wax + fuild change. Remember that next time you guys go out to get your oil changed.
If it cost 19.99 to get your oil changed THAT is worth it.
Its RIDICULOUS how many suckers are out there.
EDIT.
People working at quick lube places ANY OF THEM are NOT mechanics. REPEAT NOT MECHANICS.
couldnt if i wanted to. i live in a condo. they will site you a citation if you work on your car in the parking lot. that and its 90+ degrees outside... can you beleive our HOA did a "patio inspection" this week. they are really getting on my nerves. when i goto wal-mart it only cost me 45 dollars...
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: TacoHerder] 1
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never heard of a place in all of america that does that, might want to contact you BBB.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: TexasMyco]
#12668745 - 06/01/10 10:04 PM (3 years, 19 days ago) |
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that does what?
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: TacoHerder] 1
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HOA tells you what you can and cant bring on their property. if they want to inspect their property to make sure you dont have anything you're not suppose to have, well they have the right to do that. heck last year i got introuble b/c i had a recliner on my patio. they said it had to be outside furniture in order to be on the patio. they also made me take down the blanket i had over the blinds to keep the sun from getting in. Saying you can not hang anything but blinds and curtains from your window. HOA are the biggest dicks in the world. they can even make it to where you cant park your car on their property anymore, seen it happen with guys and big work trucks in rich housing communities. the neighbors complain about seeing this "ugly work truck" sitting in their high end housing complex. So the HOA forced the guy to move or get rid of his truck....
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: TacoHerder]
#12668905 - 06/01/10 10:33 PM (3 years, 19 days ago) |
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no, HOA scared you into believing them. get a lawyer. they cant tell you you cant work on your car in the parking lot. guess that means you cant jump start your car but have to have it towed...that was sarcasim
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: TexasMyco]
#12669004 - 06/01/10 10:50 PM (3 years, 19 days ago) |
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uhh ya they can. they OWN the lot...
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: TacoHerder]
#12669022 - 06/01/10 10:54 PM (3 years, 19 days ago) |
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when you sign a lease or buy a condo you sign an agreement with the HOA. in that agreement it says what you can and cant do.
get a lawyer.. lol, you know how much that would cost. a shit load. No lawyer would take that case unless you paid him by the hour and paid weekly.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: TacoHerder]
#12670991 - 06/02/10 09:01 AM (3 years, 18 days ago) |
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HOA HAVE a scope they cant overreach. youre just making excuses now.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: TexasMyco]
#12671157 - 06/02/10 10:21 AM (3 years, 18 days ago) |
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If they are the owners of the condo and you signed a lease they can tell you whatever the fuck they want.
What are you talking about?
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: Odum]
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look up other cases people have brought up against HOA. They cant tell you to do whatever the f*ck they want. YOu can always represent yourself too.
cases in dallas,denver,florida,maine,dc just to name a few. the one in dallas was bc they said he couldnt park his truck in the driveway, the one in florida because the resident wanted to plant ecological friendly plants.
also depending on your state they have to hold a meeting and vote on if the fine should be levied.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: TexasMyco]
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no, HOA scared you into believing them. get a lawyer. they cant tell you you cant work on your car in the parking lot. guess that means you cant jump start your car but have to have it towed...that was sarcasim
Great advice.
It's completely wrong, but awesome nonetheless.
It's private property. The owners can indeed tell you your car can't be worked on.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#12672286 - 06/02/10 02:56 PM (3 years, 18 days ago) |
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It's private property. The owners can indeed tell you your car can't be worked on.
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I find a very remote dusty turnout and use extra precaution not to spill anything. If I spill anything, I dig it up. Alternatively, ask a friend to use their property.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: cyanophilus]
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i guess you didnt look up the cases? they cant tell you to walk around naked on the property.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: TexasMyco]
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being naked and changing your cars oil have little to do with each other. or at least they shouldn't.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: cyanophilus]
#12672314 - 06/02/10 03:04 PM (3 years, 18 days ago) |
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my point was they cant enforce whatever they want. just because its a bilaw doesnt mean it cant be challenged as shown in the cases I presented. I was using an extreme to illustrate my point.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: TexasMyco]
#12673666 - 06/02/10 07:32 PM (3 years, 18 days ago) |
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Your point is retarded, yes im gonna spend thousands on a lawyer and court cost, to fight the HOA... Even though when i signed my lease it stated that you CANNOT work on any automobiles on their property... Or i could spent the whole 80 bucks to get my oil and car serviced done for me and not deal with assholes.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: TexasMyco]
#12673682 - 06/02/10 07:34 PM (3 years, 18 days ago) |
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i guess you didnt look up the cases? they cant tell you to walk around naked on the property.
Sorry you're not clever enough to know the difference between telling you what you "can't" do and what you "can" do.
I happen to be a landlord. I can put anything I want into my rental agreements UNLESS the clause in question violates the law or causes a hazard (things of that nature).
I can tell you not to paint your apartment.
I can tell you to clean your porch.
I can tell you to turn your TV down.
I can tell you you can't have pets.
I can tell you to get rid of a pet.
I can tell you your car is too loud and you can't bring it on my property.
I can tell you your car must be licensed, registered, inspected and driveable to be on my property.
And yes.... I can tell you not to work on your car on my property (notice the word "my")
I can't make you pay more than the state allowable security deposit.
I can't make you perform sexual favors for me and my friends.
I can't make you paint your car a different color.
And yes, I can't make you walk around naked.
Try to change your oil on my property.... I'll have your car towed away. I can. I will. I have.
Try not giving advice on subjects you are lacking knowledge of.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#12673698 - 06/02/10 07:36 PM (3 years, 18 days ago) |
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and why annoy people who control the property you live on....
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: TacoHerder]
#12673823 - 06/02/10 08:02 PM (3 years, 18 days ago) |
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like i said you can challenge any HOA law and you can represent yourself.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: TexasMyco]
#12673840 - 06/02/10 08:05 PM (3 years, 18 days ago) |
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you're not listening. i cant argue SHIT if i signed a lease agreeing on their terms. if i dont agree with their terms i shouldnt sign a lease and move their, thats all the judge would say...
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: TexasMyco]
#12674543 - 06/02/10 10:02 PM (3 years, 18 days ago) |
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you can challenge any law.
some people might want to walk around and put dead fish in their ass in public locations. they can challenge the right to do so and can probably find someone who WILL represent them.
doesn't mean they wont get in trouble for doing it. (sorry, you used an extreme one)
plus, who has THAT much free time? half the guys in here are iffy about spending 10 mins on their car changing their own oil. you should have learned that already.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: cyanophilus]
#12674720 - 06/02/10 10:30 PM (3 years, 18 days ago) |
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i dont think you are listening. there are numerous cases across the country people have won against hoa and they signed contracts just like you did.
its up to you if its worth it or not, thats all im sayin
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: TexasMyco]
#12674762 - 06/02/10 10:37 PM (3 years, 18 days ago) |
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Sorry, but im sure in some cases that would work when the situation isnt directly stated in a lease you sign. but no judge would overturn the lease for that reason. esp one so clear cut. i can understand maybe disputing over them not letting your vehicle stay b/c of what it is, its not as easy as you make it out to be. then if you loose, who's to say the HOA wont kick you out. you broke the contract with them, so they have the right too after that...
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: TacoHerder]
#12677211 - 06/03/10 09:40 AM (3 years, 17 days ago) |
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I never said it was easy and there is a case right now in Ohio bc some guy wanted to fly an american flag on memorial day but they told him no,it was also clearly stated in the agreement no flying flags, he did it anyways and took em to court.
LIke I said any law in HOA can be challenged its up to you to decide if its worth it. Also depending on your state they have to have a meeting and a vote before the fine can be levied.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: TexasMyco]
#12678143 - 06/03/10 01:32 PM (3 years, 17 days ago) |
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I doubt your gonna win regarding changing your oil, they will just tell you to take it to jiffylube and stop whining.
The right to fly an american flag is "patriotic", of course it's going to win in court.
You're not comparing these cases equally.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: cyanophilus] 1
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This forum needs a mod to lock this stupid, disjointed thread.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: zappaisgod]
#12693915 - 06/05/10 11:20 PM (3 years, 15 days ago) |
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The point was just because the home owners association says so doesnt mean so. I could care less about comparing cases, Im not a judge.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: TexasMyco]
#12720265 - 06/10/10 01:59 PM (3 years, 10 days ago) |
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I am about to go change my own oil. The oil was on sale, so that oil and filter was $20.
I agree with whoever said "pull into a dusty lane" or whatever...
I changed my motorcycle oil in a parking lot when i was traveling on it, and i wouldn't hesitate to do the same with my car, if it came down to it.
Big deal, id rather change my oil in a public place than pay 2.5x as much.
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I am all for changing your own motor oil in public, but for the love of Earth PLEASE use a drip pan and catch the draining oil, bottle it and dispose of the used oil properly.
I know there's huge amounts of oil in the Gulf Coast spewing out at ridiculous rates right now, but that's no reason to be irresponsible and dump oil down a storm drain that could lead to the ocean. Even if you live no where near an ocean, please dispose of your used motor oil in the proper location.
And I'm not saying you would do that PDU, I'm saying it to anyone who changes their motor oil by themselves. Do not just dump it on the ground, street, dirt road, dusty alley, etc. Please take that oil to the right place.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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agree'd.
the point of me saying a dusty turnout is because if any spills then it is easily absorbed (doesn't run/drip away) and is thus easily dug up. if you spill some on the pavement, it just stays there 'til the next rain.
various places will take oil soaked natural matter such as dirt, but its really hard to find somewhere who wants to take lots of it. indeed try not to spill ANY. its really easy to not spill any with a little practice and a big enough oil pan.
we may never be able to use our ocean again for subsistence, lets not fuck up anything else.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: cyanophilus]
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I didn't think people actually disposed of their oil incorrectly these days?! - There is absolutely no way you would see anyone pouring oil down a drain around here ... although i suppose, i could see rednecks just pouring it on the ground in the woods...
Of course - i throw down a piece of cardboard, and then the oil pan. It is not hard to collect all the oil, i usually spill small dribble when i remove the filter, but that's all.
We keep a funnel with the oil pan - makes pouring the old oil off much tidier.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: livenotonevil]
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It's a rip off in my book. For 37 bucks you can buy good oil that doesn't need to be changed tell 5 to 6000 miles and a filter that actually works. not to mention for I always put in some restore. I usually only spend about 30 on all that. 37 dollars for reg oil and a crap ass filter is just lazy in my book.
Side note. You can change just a filter every 2000 miles and the oil will last longer but don't ever change the oil and not the filter. Doing this just puts all the junk that was being cleaned out of the old oil right into the new oil.
Hope this was helpful.
how the hell do you change a filter without changing the oil?
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: Psychoslut]
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It's a rip off in my book. For 37 bucks you can buy good oil that doesn't need to be changed tell 5 to 6000 miles and a filter that actually works. not to mention for I always put in some restore. I usually only spend about 30 on all that. 37 dollars for reg oil and a crap ass filter is just lazy in my book.
Side note. You can change just a filter every 2000 miles and the oil will last longer but don't ever change the oil and not the filter. Doing this just puts all the junk that was being cleaned out of the old oil right into the new oil.
Hope this was helpful.
how the hell do you change a filter without changing the oil?
You unscrew the old filter and screw on the new one.
Why anyone would do so is the better question.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#12728229 - 06/11/10 09:55 PM (3 years, 9 days ago) |
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If you unscrew the oil filter without draining the oil you are going to get a face full of oil.
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Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: Psychoslut]
#12728431 - 06/11/10 10:35 PM (3 years, 9 days ago) |
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Psychoslut said:
If you unscrew the oil filter without draining the oil you are going to get a face full of oil.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: cyanophilus]
#12728634 - 06/11/10 11:24 PM (3 years, 9 days ago) |
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i think its funny how these guys are giving each other advice on how and when to change the oil and filters but its clear none of them have ever done it.
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[quote]KristiMidocean said:
Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: Psychoslut]
#12730282 - 06/12/10 09:13 AM (3 years, 8 days ago) |
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Psychoslut said:
If you unscrew the oil filter without draining the oil you are going to get a face full of oil.
It's clear you never changed oil. There is no drain plug on the filter. There is however a drain plug on the oil pan. Draining the oil pan has no effect on the oil in the filter.
Please stop commenting on something you are obviously clueless about.
Here, [url=/]watch it done.[/url]
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Here again, [url=another.[/url]
Now, how about not commenting on things you clearly know nothing about.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#12730640 - 06/12/10 11:31 AM (3 years, 8 days ago) |
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I have changed the oil on everything from a 49cc 3-wheeler to a peterbuilt 18 -wheeler.
Anything that has a filter has an oil level which reaches the filter when full. Hence, pulling the filter without pulling the pan plug results in oil leaking out of the engine. The only way to avoid this is to let some oil out of your engine. The only way it would work without letting some out is if you were really low on oil to begin with.
Maybe not a face full of oil, but it will dribble all over your engine/you/ground when you pull the filter out to swap it.
I don't know if you have any idea what your talking about, but I have been doing this for years and have worked at a mechanic/dismantling shop on many sizes of vehicle and have yet to see a vehicle with a filter that was an exception.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#12731240 - 06/12/10 02:50 PM (3 years, 8 days ago) |
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if you take the oil filter off you are at least going to loose a quart of oil, more if the car isnt completely cool and sitting. besides that changing the filter without changing the oil is just dumb.
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Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: cyanophilus]
#12731448 - 06/12/10 03:38 PM (3 years, 8 days ago) |
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I have changed the oil on everything from a 49cc 3-wheeler to a peterbuilt 18 -wheeler.
Anything that has a filter has an oil level which reaches the filter when full. Hence, pulling the filter without pulling the pan plug results in oil leaking out of the engine. The only way to avoid this is to let some oil out of your engine. The only way it would work without letting some out is if you were really low on oil to begin with.
Maybe not a face full of oil, but it will dribble all over your engine/you/ground when you pull the filter out to swap it.
I don't know if you have any idea what your talking about, but I have been doing this for years and have worked at a mechanic/dismantling shop on many sizes of vehicle and have yet to see a vehicle with a filter that was an exception.
I weep for anyone that listens to your advice (on oil changes) after that post.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: Psychoslut]
#12731487 - 06/12/10 03:47 PM (3 years, 8 days ago) |
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Psychoslut said:
if you take the oil filter off you are at least going to loose a quart of oil
Older vehicles most frequently had filters that held a full quart. Many newer ones hold less.
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, more if the car isnt completely cool and sitting.
The amount of oil won't vary because it's hot, or if anything it will lose less as heat expands. Also, I make it a practice (when I did change my own oil) to never change the oil of a standing car.
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besides that changing the filter without changing the oil is just dumb.
Which is why I said "Why anyone would do so is the better question."
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#12734055 - 06/13/10 01:12 AM (3 years, 8 days ago) |
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argue all you want man, im sure someone will do it and then come respond here.
I would go out to the car RIGHT NOW and remove the oil filter on video to prove my case, but proving you wrong is not worth opening a new qt of oil.
again... im sure people actually changing their oil can come respond regarding it. for anyone that wants to experiment, take your filter off before you drain your oil and don't be surprised if it dribbles down the engine in fat gobs.
I can seriously say ive poured more 5gal buckets worth of oil into big rigs than anyone else here, and probably done more oil changes on everything from honda accords to ford navigators and I have yet to run into a vehicle that doesn't spill oil when you remove the filter first.
this is a seriously retarded thing to argue about.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: cyanophilus]
#12734714 - 06/13/10 07:43 AM (3 years, 7 days ago) |
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#12739314 - 06/14/10 01:22 AM (3 years, 7 days ago) |
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I would never pay more than $15 for an oil change. There are always coupons,specials, etc going on. The one time I was going to change my oil myself (synthetic) the total with the oil filter came to around $25 or $30 dollars... I thought to myself as I was walking out that it was BS, walked right back in and returned everything. Took my car in to the shop and got it done for $20. Easier, cheaper, quicker.
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Re: The Cost of Changing the Motor Oil for an Automobile [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#12879045 - 07/10/10 07:59 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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I started changing my own oil a couple years ago,
after spending maybe $5.00 for a low profile oil change bucket.
I already had leather gloves to use as the filter wrench, dont need the wrench.
I did spend about $7.00 for a grease gun for the front end fittings.
I spend $10.50 for a 5 guart container of quality 5-30w Quaker oil
and around $3.00 for the Fram filter.
And then just pour the old in back into the 5 quart container and recycle.
Total cost around $14.00 and maybe 15 minutes.
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