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Second harvest! EQ in 1/4 pint jar. First grow. (Updated - 4/15)
    #12358740 - 04/09/10 12:34 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I am very excited today, as I have witnessed my very first pins! :grin: I birthed a few cakes a week and a half ago after letting them colonize a extra week in the jars.  And I was worried that I would never see any pins after this long.  But alas they are starting to pop up all over the place!




Close up on the upper left of the cake where most of the visible pins are coming up at.



There is also little ones popping up on various other locations on the cake, within a few days they should be much more prominent. I guess for the next 7 days or so this is going to be the best part of the grow I have heard.  :smile:

Hope they grow up to be big and strong!


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UPDATE 4/9: They grow fast!  However the darker colored pin in the first pic has me a bit worried.









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UPDATE 4/10:
Things are looking good so far aside from the few rotting pins.





My favorite view, you can see little pins starting to come up all over the top of the cake.  So exciting for me!  My eyes are now starting to train to look for that specific shade of brown. :tongue2:



A side I really haven't shown yet.  There is a few coming up over here too.



Another side shot of those green rotting pins.  Now I see three or four of them. Must be a bad side of the cake or something? :sad:



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UPDATE 4/10 1:57PM -



Looking at the top view, those 'rots' definitely look like aborts now due to the black heads.  But there is a good amount popping up on top now.  Must be about 30 or 40 pins up there. :smile:  If even 2/3 of those grow to be full size, that little 1/4pint cake is going to be crowded!




Side view, a nice little cluster coming in over here.



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Update 4/11 9:36AM


Quick update.

Had to do a bit of 'surgery' last night to remove those rotting disgusting pins.  Luckily they didn't stink yet, but were a very mushy black and green color.  It was not pretty.  So I did my best to remove them with some needle nose pliers.  Wasn't the best job somebody could have done, but I think its better than letting them sit there.






As you can see the bruising from my surgery.  I removed about 5 nasty rotting aborts.  And sadly, my biggest pin in that corner aborted and rotted out as well.



Closer shot of the scalped area.  There was still some rot left over that I couldn't really remove since everything is so small.  It's like trying to perform brain surgery on a ant.




Seems everything that touches that back corner aborts and rots out very quickly.  I am thinking it's cause I am misting too much and keeping the cakes wet for too long.  So I am toning back on the misting to see if that helps.

Overall though, they aren't growing as fast as I would have liked.  At this point it seems they reach a certain pin maturity, abort then rot.  I always thought these things took off to mature fruits very quickly once pinned.  But it's been just about 3 days now with only minimal growth and several aborts of my biggest pins.

I really want to wake up one morning to find nice sized fruits in there, but am always let down.  I hope these can make it past the pinning stage. 



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Update 4/11 11:48PM


I am not sure if too many of you care to see these pin pics over and over since they are growing so slow, but I still think it's neat and will keep updating periodically. :smile:

I am hoping soon they will start to mature into big fruits!













Possibly one more abort (the biggest one on the left there) but maybe that's what it's supposed to look like when maturing?  Almost looks like the veil has opened up.

If it does abort, I am going to think they all will once they get about that big.  Just like the other aborts.  I sure hope not though. At least one needs to make it!



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Update 4/12 12:45PM


Well, that open veil mushy has opened up even more.  Definitely a small mature mushroom.  You guys think I should pick it right now, or is it still going to grow some more?  I don't want to risk it rotting out, but if it still has a bit more growing to do I don't want to pick it pre-maturely.

Just to be sure, it is NOT a abort right?  Just a small mature?








Nice alternate side shot, got a good cluster over here.





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Update 4/13 3:00PM

Anyway, here is another update.  They are really starting to take off now!  Should only be a day or two till harvest!



The biggest one to the left is definitely going to be my star pupil if it doesn't abort out.




The side that I did the 'surgery' on.  Still kinda nasty looking, but doesn't seem to be spreading.




Backside pic, these are coming in nicely.












I am very excited though.  Most of these seem to be healthy and kicking!  Only one or two aborts that I can see.  So I think my new mist and fan method is working out well!  i am starting to get the hang of what to look for in terms of moisture and when to fan/mist.



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Update 4/13 11:00PM

Anywho, another quick update for tonight.  They are really taking off.  I am currently wondering what I should do with the one that has opened up completely.  I certainly don't want it to rot out which is what it's looking like it may do, but it still appears to be growing.

What do you guys think?  Should I just wait it out for the rest to mature for harvest, or get it now while it's still healthy?









They obviously look bigger than they really are due to my close up shots.  The tallest one (that has opened up) is roughly 2 inches high.  Maybe a tad shorter than that.


Also on harvest, should I pick every pin and fruit on the cake, or only ones that are fully mature and the aborts?  I assume it's the latter because from what I've read the smaller pins are for the second flush.

EDIT: Ok, I decided to pick the one that was opened up completely.  Accidentally took another one with it, but it was probably a abort anyway. 

It's really nothing at all, but for my first ever mini-harvest, I am happy.  These two came out to a whopping 0.55 grams  :lol:








Also check out my little drying system here I just thought of on the spot. 


I used one of those strainer things you can get at the supermarket (probably used for spaghetti or something, but I use it for perlite straining)





Then stuck the handle in my desk drawer to hold it up, and placed a little fan right on top of it.  It's a perfect fit!






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Update 4/14 1:43PM

Ok, did another little harvest.  Plucked 5 that were ready to go.  A whopping 4.6 grams wet.  Man, I really thought these would be bigger, but now I realize small substrate = small mushrooms.  Oh well, still a blast! :grin:














There was a few from the remaining patch that I wanted to grab, but they are just too close to the others so I am going to wait till the rest are ready to get them.  Hope they don't go bad.  But I suspect my final harvest for the first flush will probably be tomorrow.  Then I can dunka and get ready for a second flush.  Maybe it will be bigger!


BTW for the dunk, should I do a full 24 hours?  Or just 12?  I did 24 the first dunk.  Also should I try to wash off as much of the old verm as possible and re-roll, or just leave it and do another roll (maybe I don't roll at all?)





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Update 4/14 2:56PM

Alright, did another harvest.  Got all but one from the top, and grabbed two on the side that were ready to go/aborts.

My question is, once I get the last one on top which I am hoping will be tomorrow, is it Ok to dunk the cake with those pins on the side being as big as they are?  I've read that it is Ok to dunk pins, but these are growing fairly fast, and will be even bigger by tomorrow. 

I assume they are for the second flush and I shouldn't mess with them.  But this cake seems to just keep going and going and going without any breaks or any real sign of standard flushes.

Also, should I lightly wash the cake off before and after the dunk?  Seems like a  good idea due to the inky stuff left behind by some of the rotting aborts that were on the cake.



The second from the top left was my pride and joy.  It looked the best and everything was perfect on it (gills, shape etc).  In fact that's the mushy I used for my sig. 







Wet weight for this harvest was 8.15 grams.  Not even close to being a record breaker, or even average, but for me this is a huge success.  I never thought I would be able to get this far.  Especially with my apartment being so messy and major contam zone.  Hell, my bathroom has constant black mold outbreaks, which is only a few feet away from my FC :hehehe:  Just goes to show how great FAE is.

So far total wet weight for everything I have harvested is 13.3 grams.  I hope to get at least 1 or 2 dry grams out of this first flush.  And I am looking forward to see how my second and third flushes do (if the cake can do that much).


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Re: Alright, pins finally! EQ in 1/4 pint jar. First grow. [Re: Nanoid]
    #12358777 - 04/09/10 12:40 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Congrats! Can't wait to see them when they are all grown up. :laugh:


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Re: Alright, pins finally! EQ in 1/4 pint jar. First grow. [Re: EnigmaticMind]
    #12358805 - 04/09/10 12:45 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

You'll always remember your first pins!


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Re: Alright, pins finally! EQ in 1/4 pint jar. First grow. [Re: gornyhuy]
    #12358841 - 04/09/10 12:50 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

That's for sure, they are a beauty!  And from what I've read about EQ's, hopefully there is very few aborts.

Quick question, once they start getting bigger, I should keep misting and fanning right?  I am not sure if it's Ok or not to keep the pins and maturing fruits wet by misting frequently.  I remember reading about hyphal knots and droplets of water not being good, but not sure of the rules for more maturing fruits.


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Re: Alright, pins finally! EQ in 1/4 pint jar. First grow. [Re: Nanoid]
    #12358868 - 04/09/10 12:55 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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That's for sure, they are a beauty!  And from what I've read about EQ's, hopefully there is very few aborts.

Quick question, once they start getting bigger, I should keep misting and fanning right?  I am not sure if it's Ok or not to keep the pins and maturing fruits wet by misting frequently.  I remember reading about hyphal knots and droplets of water not being good, but not sure of the rules for more maturing fruits.


You should be fine. I've never had a problem spraying around pins. Don't let the water pool on the cake though.


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Re: Alright, pins finally! EQ in 1/4 pint jar. First grow. [Re: Masticore]
    #12359462 - 04/09/10 03:02 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

So how many days do you think till they are fully mature?  Usually at this point it's fairly quick right?


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Re: Alright, pins finally! EQ in 1/4 pint jar. First grow. [Re: Nanoid]
    #12360219 - 04/09/10 07:24 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

up to 10 days or so by the way sexy cakes looking very good


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Re: Alright, pins finally! EQ in 1/4 pint jar. First grow. [Re: Ozzy_shroomer]
    #12362738 - 04/09/10 05:59 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Man, these things are sure ambitious!  Here is a update. 



They if you look close, they seem to be coming up all over the top.






However I am wondering about the darker colored pin in the first pic just behind/right next to the biggest healthy pin.  The one that looks kinda greenish.  You guys think this is a abort?  Or just bruised?


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Re: Alright, pins finally! EQ in 1/4 pint jar. First grow. [Re: Nanoid]
    #12362820 - 04/09/10 06:14 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

That is a verry good pin set for ur first time, congrats :thumbup:
I do not think it a abort, but theres no way to tell really.
It will get really dark and stop growing if it is.

anyway in my experiance iv never had shrooms go from pin to full grown in more then four days, so you will be picking that very soon trust me :wink:

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    #12364904 - 04/10/10 12:28 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Ok, that darker colored pin is starting to worry me.  I managed to get a better shot of it.  There also appears to be another greenish colored pin to the left of it as well. 

Are these rotting out?  Should I attempt to remove them?



The rest of the pins seem healthy, and I am still seeing new ones pop up on different parts of the cake.  I really don't want a few bad pins to ruin my whole cake! :sad:


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Re: Alright, pins finally! EQ in 1/4 pint jar. First grow. [Re: Nanoid]
    #12365318 - 04/10/10 02:00 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

YOu could leave them and theyd probably be ok..

But I'd try to gently pull them off..maybe tweezers. Theyre just aborting, maybe rotting a little.


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Re: Alright, pins finally! EQ in 1/4 pint jar. First grow. [Re: scatmanrav]
    #12365760 - 04/10/10 04:03 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Ok, I might give that a try.  Only problem is these rotting pins are beyond tiny, maybe 1-2mm high at best.  They seem bigger due to my camera's good macro ability.  Plus they are sort of in a hard to reach place, cornered in the terrarium.

If I let them rot out, could this devastate the rest of my pins or the entire cake?  I could probably remove them after the first flush and when I am going to do another dunk, but seems risky right now since they are so close to other healthy pins.


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Re: Alright, pins finally! EQ in 1/4 pint jar. First grow. [Re: Nanoid]
    #12365853 - 04/10/10 04:57 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Well, I am about to call it a night and figured I would take a few more pics.  Plus, who could turn down some pin porn? :grin:  More pics to follow tomorrow.

Things are looking good so far aside from the few rotting pins.





My favorite view, you can see little pins starting to come up all over the top of the cake.  So exciting for me!  My eyes are now starting to train to look for that specific shade of brown. :tongue2:



A side I really haven't shown yet.  There is a few coming up over here too.



Another side shot of those green rotting pins.  Now I see three or four of them. Must be a bad side of the cake or something? :sad:




One thing I find interesting is that most of my pins are coming out near the top or on the top of the cake.  Usually when i see peoples cakes, fruiting tends to happen near the base or on the sides and not so much from the top.  But mine seem to be almost exclusively pinning from the top.  I don't think i have a single base pin and only a few side pins.  :confused:

What could be the reason for this?


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    #12365948 - 04/10/10 06:09 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

You won't recognise it in the morning :crazy2:


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    #12367143 - 04/10/10 02:15 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I believe theyre just aborts, yeah your camera is to good, making them look worse lol. Generally the rot doesnt spread easily, and your flush will be mature in days, so keep an eye on it, but I think theyre just aborting and would be fine if left.


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Re: Alright, pins finally! EQ in 1/4 pint jar. First grow. [Re: scatmanrav]
    #12367928 - 04/10/10 04:56 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Ok, small update. 


Looking at the top view, those 'rots' definitely look like aborts now due to the black heads.  But there is a good amount popping up on top now.  Must be about 30 or 40 pins up there. :smile:  If even 2/3 of those grow to be full size, that little 1/4pint cake is going to be crowded!




Side view, a nice little cluster coming in over here.





Still, not very many side pins at all.  Most are on top.


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    #12372011 - 04/11/10 12:35 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Quick update.

Had to do a bit of 'surgery' last night to remove those rotting disgusting pins.  Luckily they didn't stink yet, but were a very mushy black and green color.  It was not pretty.  So I did my best to remove them with some needle nose pliers.  Wasn't the best job somebody could have done, but I think its better than letting them sit there.






As you can see the bruising from my surgery.  I removed about 5 nasty rotting aborts.  And sadly, my biggest pin in that corner aborted and rotted out as well.



Closer shot of the scalped area.  There was still some rot left over that I couldn't really remove since everything is so small.  It's like trying to perform brain surgery on a ant.





Seems everything that touches that back corner aborts and rots out very quickly.  I am thinking it's cause I am misting too much and keeping the cakes wet for too long.  So I am toning back on the misting to see if that helps.

Overall though, they aren't growing as fast as I would have liked.  At this point it seems they reach a certain pin maturity, abort then rot.  I always thought these things took off to mature fruits very quickly once pinned.  But it's been just about 3 days now with only minimal growth and several aborts of my biggest pins.

I really want to wake up one morning to find nice sized fruits in there, but am always let down.  I hope these can make it past the pinning stage.


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Re: Alright, pins finally! EQ in 1/4 pint jar. First grow. [Re: Nanoid]
    #12372218 - 04/11/10 01:40 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

nice pin set for a first timer on a cake.....
but man that rotting/aborting pin head looks SO SICK  :argh:


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    #12374065 - 04/11/10 07:50 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

how often are you fanning ??? less mist more fan


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Re: Alright, pins finally! EQ in 1/4 pint jar. First grow. [Re: Ozzy_shroomer]
    #12374217 - 04/11/10 08:29 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I was getting into the habit of misting and fanning every few hours.  I did this because I thought my humidity wasn't holding. 

But now I have toned back the misting and added more fanning.  After reading some threads, I guess it's Ok to let the cakes get a bit dry before another misting instead of keeping them wet looking all the time.


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    #12374475 - 04/11/10 11:09 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

other than the rot, looks to be a nice pin set :thumbup:


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    #12374602 - 04/11/10 11:34 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I noticed that pins take a bit to kick off at first, but once they are about half an inch big they take off in one night and by next morning, you'll be ready to harvest! =)


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    #12374949 - 04/12/10 12:22 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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I noticed that pins take a bit to kick off at first, but once they are about half an inch big they take off in one night and by next morning, you'll be ready to harvest! =)


Good luck on your grow man, I'm on my 2nd flush of my first grow ^^


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Sweet! I can't wait to see them grow to mature fruits. :smile:  I hope most of these don't abort.  Although from hat I've read, about 2/3 probably will.

What have you guys seen from your own experience with cakes?  Are most aborts, or do most of them fruit to maturity?


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    #12375857 - 04/12/10 02:47 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Update:


I am not sure if too many of you care to see these pin pics over and over since they are growing so slow, but I still think it's neat and will keep updating periodically. :smile:

I am hoping soon they will start to mature into big fruits!













Possibly one more abort (the biggest one on the left there) but maybe that's what it's supposed to look like when maturing?  Almost looks like the veil has opened up.

If it does abort, I am going to think they all will once they get about that big.  Just like the other aborts.  I sure hope not though. At least one needs to make it!


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Re: Alright, pins finally! EQ in 1/4 pint jar. First grow. [Re: Nanoid]
    #12375918 - 04/12/10 03:02 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Is the rotting contained?? I would seriously take a qtip with some isopropyl alcohol and dab the rotting spots to nip that problem in the bud.. it looks like it's even attacking your big pin group on top!


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Re: Alright, pins finally! EQ in 1/4 pint jar. First grow. [Re: rberg79]
    #12376314 - 04/12/10 05:55 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

The rotting seems contained, although that corner seems to be a abort-zone for any shroom over there.  Would it be Ok to swab with alcohol?  I guess it couldn't hurt anything since alcohol doesn't kill mycelium or spores.


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Re: Alright, pins finally! EQ in 1/4 pint jar. First grow. [Re: Nanoid]
    #12376430 - 04/12/10 07:38 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Alright, pins finally! EQ in 1/4 pint jar. First grow. [Re: rizingfire]
    #12376470 - 04/12/10 08:12 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

i read somewhere alcohol isn't good for mycelium. it might kill it, but i'll have to look into that to be sure.


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Re: Alright, pins finally! EQ in 1/4 pint jar. First grow. [Re: sweetinkyblood]
    #12377050 - 04/12/10 11:33 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Alcohol DOES kill mycelium. Wipe in that spot ONLY if you want to wipe it. I've used alcohol to try and fight molds. Not very well I might add. You may just help more to rot by killing more though. I'd leave it, as it looks contained.

Aborts do not open their caps, that is a mature mushroom. But its probably maturing before the others will, some just do that. You can pick it when the cap is open, or leave it to pick with the rest of the flush, it doesnt matter. Personal choice.


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Re: Alright, pins finally! EQ in 1/4 pint jar. First grow. [Re: scatmanrav]
    #12378006 - 04/12/10 02:36 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I have had a cake or two before that had few, if any pins, and other cakes that almost exclusively gave aborts. The aborts are still good as long as they don't rot, and many people feel they are more potent than the 'normal' fruiting bodies, so i would recommend letting them grow out.
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Re: Alright, pins finally! EQ in 1/4 pint jar. First grow. [Re: thepwnzor]
    #12378423 - 04/12/10 03:44 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Update

Well, that open veil mushy has opened up even more.  Definitely a small mature mushroom.  You guys think I should pick it right now, or is it still going to grow some more?  I don't want to risk it rotting out, but if it still has a bit more growing to do I don't want to pick it pre-maturely.

Just to be sure, it is NOT a abort right?  Just a small mature?








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Re: Alright, pins finally! EQ in 1/4 pint jar. First grow. [Re: Nanoid]
    #12382923 - 04/13/10 03:05 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Open cap=maturity=not abort, aborts, abort as pins. Sometimes a few open early. Same reason as they abort I imagine, to many pins, to many places for energy to go. I assume they are growing slowly due to still giving you your pinset too..They'll be coming along quicker though. Looking good. :thumbup: pictures


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Re: Alright, pins finally! EQ in 1/4 pint jar. First grow. [Re: scatmanrav]
    #12383032 - 04/13/10 03:39 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks for the input. :smile: It makes perfect sense why the fruiting is taking longer than I thought it would.  I mean with all the current pins and pins constantly coming in, this little cake is giving 110% of it's energy to do all of this.  After all it is only a 1/4 pint, it is beyond tiny and has quite a lot of pins for it's size.  And it just keeps pumping them out.

A few are starting to grow quite well. And that 'maturing' one still seems to be growing, and a few others are pre-maturing as well.  I will be taking some more pics either tonight or in the morning.


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Re: Alright, pins finally! EQ in 1/4 pint jar. First grow. [Re: Nanoid]
    #12383090 - 04/13/10 03:55 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Alright, pins finally! EQ in 1/4 pint jar. First grow. [Re: Dragonaut]
    #12383123 - 04/13/10 04:04 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

They do grow after the caps open.

Thats only 1/4 pint cake? That will affect size too. Bigger substrate=bigger shrooms.



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Re: Alright, pins finally! EQ in 1/4 pint jar. First grow. [Re: scatmanrav]
    #12383441 - 04/13/10 06:25 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I always figured bigger substrate = more shrooms.  Didn't realize the size of the mushies was determined by the size of the substrate.  I always assumed it was just a matter of quantity.


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Re: Alright, pins finally! EQ in 1/4 pint jar. First grow. [Re: Nanoid]
    #12384233 - 04/13/10 11:43 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

You'll get more shrooms with 2 tubs with 2 inches of substrate, and bigger shrooms with 1 tub and 4 inches of substrate..more surface area=more pins but then the energy goes into trying to mature all of those pins it can, so they mature and drop spores sooner. If you have a thick substrate, it has the same amount of nutes as the two thin ones, but half the pins (because of half the surface area) to put the energy into..so you get bigger shroomies.
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Re: Alright, pins finally! EQ in 1/4 pint jar. First grow. [Re: scatmanrav]
    #12386317 - 04/13/10 06:01 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Oh, well we'll see how big these get.  If they are at least normal sized average fruits, I am fine with that. :smile:

Anyway, here is another update.  They are really starting to take off now!  Should only be a day or two till harvest!



The biggest one to the left is definitely going to be my star pupil if it doesn't abort out.




The side that I did the 'surgery' on.  Still kinda nasty looking, but doesn't seem to be spreading.




Backside pic, these are coming in nicely.












I am very excited though.  Most of these seem to be healthy and kicking!  Only one or two aborts that I can see.  So I think my new mist and fan method is working out well!  i am starting to get the hang of what to look for in terms of moisture and when to fan/mist.


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Re: Alright, pins finally! EQ in 1/4 pint jar. First grow. [Re: Nanoid]
    #12386509 - 04/13/10 06:43 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Nanoid, one quick question, how long did it take for your jars to colonize?

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Re: Alright, pins finally! EQ in 1/4 pint jar. First grow. [Re: Horsewithnoname]
    #12386648 - 04/13/10 07:08 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Mine took forever as well.  It was almost a month before I saw any growth whatsoever in the jars, and just about another month till they were done.  And some are still trying to finish up (lots of metabolites in those though).

Overall, it seems these EQ's are incredibly slow in every stage.  I birthed the cake in all the pics in this thread on the 29th of march and they still aren't done (getting close to first harvest though).

Maybe it was just me, but they do seem to take forever.  I have asecond batch of jars going now that I started on Friday.  They are Mexicubes and are getting the same conditions as my first jars did.  So we'll see if it's just me or the strain.

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Re: Alright, pins finally! EQ in 1/4 pint jar. First grow. [Re: Nanoid]
    #12388674 - 04/13/10 11:55 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

My EQ's have always been fast, in grain and poo. Done a few prints from different sources. Looking good though...


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Re: Alright, pins finally! EQ in 1/4 pint jar. First grow. [Re: scatmanrav]
    #12389009 - 04/14/10 12:58 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Well, as long as they work, its fine.


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Re: Alright, pins finally! EQ in 1/4 pint jar. First grow. [Re: Horsewithnoname]
    #12389208 - 04/14/10 01:36 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

great grow! wish i had the resources to do a grow. right now i just buy lol


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Re: Alright, pins finally! EQ in 1/4 pint jar. First grow. [Re: hooka4lifecough]
    #12389339 - 04/14/10 01:59 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

lol, I wouldn't even know where to buy if I wanted to :grin:  Plus for me the most exciting part is growing them, eating them and tripping is a pretty minor detail I must admit.  I have always been interested in mushrooms growing, I love seeing them in the wild.  They are just so alien, rare and neat.


Anywho, another quick update for tonight.  They are really taking off.  I am currently wondering what I should do with the one that has opened up completely.  I certainly don't want it to rot out which is what it's looking like it may do, but it still appears to be growing.

What do you guys think?  Should I just wait it out for the rest to mature for harvest, or get it now while it's still healthy?









They obviously look bigger than they really are due to my close up shots.  The tallest one (that has opened up) is roughly 2 inches high.  Maybe a tad shorter than that.


Also on harvest, should I pick every pin and fruit on the cake, or only ones that are fully mature and the aborts?  I assume it's the latter because from what I've read the smaller pins are for the second flush.


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Re: Alright, pins finally! EQ in 1/4 pint jar. First grow. [Re: Nanoid]
    #12389361 - 04/14/10 02:04 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Pull it now. Twist as you pull, dont yank. You shouldnt disturb the others to much even though theyre all connected and it seems like you will. Just remember to twist. The cap is getting a color that means it may go inky.


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Re: Alright, pins finally! EQ in 1/4 pint jar. First grow. [Re: scatmanrav]
    #12389418 - 04/14/10 02:13 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Ok, thanks.  I  will yank it now!  And thanks on the twisting tip, I was kinda unsure about how to do it. :grin:


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    #12389515 - 04/14/10 02:26 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Alright, I got it out.  Although it was such tight quarters I accidentally broke another one with it.  I sure hope it was the only one I hurt, cause I nudged some other ones near it too. :sad:

But the one that I broke off seemed like a abort anyway, so maybe no harm done.  But I gotta say, pulling that one from the middle of the others was quite nerve racking.  My fingers aren't the smallest out there and this is a tight quartered little cake.

Anywho, here is my first successful mini-cube harvest!








EDIT: Also check out my little drying system here I just thought of on the spot. 


I used one of those strainer things you can get at the supermarket (probably used for spaghetti or something, but I use it for perlite straining)





Then stuck the handle in my desk drawer to hold it up, and placed a little fan right on top of it.  It's a perfect fit!




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    #12391447 - 04/14/10 01:20 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

cool setup! thx for the PM :smile:


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    #12392633 - 04/14/10 04:42 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Ok, did another little harvest.  Plucked 5 that were ready to go.  A whopping 4.6 grams wet.  Man, I really thought these would be bigger, but now I realize small substrate = small mushrooms.  Oh well, still a blast! :grin:














There was a few from the remaining patch that I wanted to grab, but they are just too close to the others so I am going to wait till the rest are ready to get them.  Hope they don't go bad.  But I suspect my final harvest for the first flush will probably be tomorrow.  Then I can dunka nd get ready for a second flush.  Maybe it will be bigger!


BTW for the dunk, should I do a full 24 hours?  Or just 12?  I did 24 the first dunk.  Also should I try to wash off as much of the old verm as possible and re-roll, or just leave it and do another roll (maybe I don't roll at all?)


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Re: Alright, pins finally! EQ in 1/4 pint jar. First grow. [Re: Nanoid]
    #12399208 - 04/15/10 05:55 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Alright, did another harvest.  Got all but one from the top, and grabbed two on the side that were ready to go/aborts.

My question is, once I get the last one on top which I am hoping will be tomorrow, is it Ok to dunk the cake with those pins on the side being as big as they are?  I've read that it is Ok to dunk pins, but these are growing fairly fast, and will be even bigger by tomorrow. 

I assume they are for the second flush and I shouldn't mess with them.  But this cake seems to just keep going and going and going without any breaks or any real sign of standard flushes.

Also, should I lightly wash the cake off before and after the dunk?  Seems like a  good idea due to the inky stuff left behind by some of the rotting aborts that were on the cake.



The second from the top left was my pride and joy.  It looked the best and everything was perfect on it (gills, shape etc).  In fact that's the mushy I used for my sig. 







Wet weight for this harvest was 8.15 grams.  Not even close to being a record breaker, or even average, but for me this is a huge success.  I never thought I would be able to get this far.  Especially with my apartment being so messy and major contam zone.  Hell, my bathroom has constant black mold outbreaks, which is only a few feet away from my FC :hehehe:  Just goes to show how great FAE is.

So far total wet weight for everything I have harvested is 13.3 grams.  I hope to get at least 1 or 2 dry grams out of this first flush.  And I am looking forward to see how my second and third flushes do (if the cake can do that much).


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