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 supernovasky
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 Re: Research chemicals  [Re: Todcasil]
#12335908 - 04/05/10 04:28 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I feel pretty safe with 2C-I and 2C-E. They are close enough to mescaline for me to not worry too much about their effects. They always seemed mild to me (unless you dose a lot of it).
No offense, but that is a hilarious statement! 
Hmm, why so?
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Well if i have to 'splain it  hehe
Think about it, if i said this: "Man Mescaline is a pretty mild trip, unless you take a lot of it, then it's pretty strong."
Tell me you see the irony, the Snarkasm!
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Re: Research chemicals [Re: Todcasil]
#12336637 - 04/05/10 06:10 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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DOx are usually good trippin mane, accept the love.
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The way I see it, the people mainly at risk are the ones abusing the crap out of RC's. They would be the first to show any sign of toxicity, and theres no way I would catch up to those insane/important people.
The ones I would avoid at this point are 2c-i, DOI, and 5-meo-amt.
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Re: Research chemicals [Re: Todcasil]
#12336760 - 04/05/10 06:28 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Todcasil said:
Well if i have to 'splain it hehe
Think about it, if i said this: "Man Mescaline is a pretty mild trip, unless you take a lot of it, then it's pretty strong."
Tell me you see the irony, the Snarkasm!
Ah, I see your point. Touche my friend. I was really just thinking about its strength at a standard single dose vs. other drugs at a single dose.
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Re: Research chemicals [Re: Moo456]
#12336767 - 04/05/10 06:29 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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agreed... especially about the meoamt
any of those rc that induce horrible muscle cramps too... fuck them
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Re: Research chemicals [Re: Moo456]
#12336780 - 04/05/10 06:30 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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2C-I don't seem to be loved in the research chemical family!
Because of the iodine ?
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2C-I don't seem to be loved in the research chemical family!
Because of the iodine ?
I love 2c-i :P
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well doi kinda rubs peolpe the wrong way too...
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2C-I don't seem to be loved in the research chemical family!
Because of the iodine ?
It seems to similar in structure to this thyroxine
Theres at least one report of thyroid problems from a little 2c-i use.
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=39567
And theres a lot of reports of HPPD with it. DOI is close in structure so it might have the same issue.
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Re: Research chemicals [Re: Moo456]
#12337039 - 04/05/10 07:14 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I had heard a lot on the HPPD issue, but never on the thyroid one.
Interesting, thanks.
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Interesting. I didn't have HPPD problems til I started dosing 2c-i.
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Re: Research chemicals [Re: Moo456]
#12337090 - 04/05/10 07:22 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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My favorite drug is 2c-whatever
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(whoops, edit)
Edited by supernovasky (04/05/10 07:23 PM)
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My favorite drug is 2c-whatever
you're the only one that ever makes any sense, brain! NARF!
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I obtained 500 mg of 2C-E recently, it's awesome stuff. I definitely wouldn't want to ever binge on the stuff or take a heavy dose of it -- moderation is the key!
I like how, unlike with LSD, you know exactly what dose you're getting with when you weigh out a RC dose (provided you have a mg scale). Plus, I would imagine it is also generally purer as it is made in a scientific lab rather than a dude's basement.
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Re: Research chemicals [Re: stereolab]
#12338720 - 04/05/10 11:40 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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You guys have definitely convinced me to give them a shot haha.
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Re: Research chemicals [Re: stereolab]
#12338739 - 04/05/10 11:43 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I like how, unlike with LSD, you know exactly what dose you're getting with when you weigh out a RC dose (provided you have a mg scale). Plus, I would imagine it is also generally purer as it is made in a scientific lab rather than a dude's basement.
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Re: Research chemicals [Re: Todcasil]
#13268632 - 09/30/10 08:53 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Research chemicals definitely have their place, after trying some 2c-i I am beyond impressed with the knowledge and vision they impart, this is not some party drug, this is an amazing journey into the mind and into a strange new and ancient reality. Always remember know your source, know your dose, know your drug, and above all know your body. YOu all take care and hit me up sometime. PEace
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Re: Research chemicals [Re: drpain27]
#13268667 - 09/30/10 09:13 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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We still don't have aggregate long-term info on these drugs. Considering their general rarity, even if they've been around a long time, doesn't mean a large enough sample of people have used them and then been properly evaluated by a physician. Where are the long-term studies? You'd have to be a fool to be alleviated by the idea that "Oh well Shulgin's done it and he's old so it's ok." or "They've been around for so long, don't you think we'd know by now?" or maybe "I've done them a lot and I'm fine." or even "Drug X was once an RC too!" All of this anecdotal evidence doesn't convince me that they're definitely safe; rather, I think they're justifications used by RC users. But that's JMHO and I could be wrong.
That all being said, I would still like to try some 2c-b maybe once or twice. Sounds epic.
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