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 AlmostAsCoolAs
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#12333539 - 04/05/10 04:20 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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It amazes me how many people use these drugs despite knowing nothing about them safety-wise. I've been interested in trying some of them lately since I mostly hear good things but even if I knew of a legit vendor I don't think I could actually go through with ordering them just because nobody knows the dangers of them.
I'm not putting anyone down who uses them but it just seems risky.
Thoughts?
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I think most research chemicals are structurally similar to MDMA, LSD and mescaline and are therefore considered to behave in similar the predictable manner to the more traditional psychedelics.
I for one, feel safe ingesting research chemicals after gathering a bit of information about them.
Read PIHKAL and TIHKAL, and maybe you can put your mind at rest.
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Eat some DOC, then lay your bias aside. It will "all good" as they say in Psychedelia my friend.
no seriously, take some DOC.
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Re: Research chemicals [Re: PDU]
#12333578 - 04/05/10 04:41 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
PDU said:
I think most research chemicals are structurally similar to MDMA, LSD and mescaline and are therefore considered to behave in similar the predictable manner to the more traditional psychedelics.
I for one, feel safe ingesting research chemicals after gathering a bit of information about them.
Read PIHKAL and TIHKAL, and maybe you can put your mind at rest.
So how different does a chemical need to be structurally to go from safe to harmful? Im guessing not much
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Re: Research chemicals [Re: Todcasil]
#12333617 - 04/05/10 05:00 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Aren't most research chemicals legal in the US because it takes so long to ban plus fat cat politicians don't give a shit if it isn't a known name?
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Sorry pal, RC's are still mostly illegal here in teh continental US!
They are all Analogs of this or the other types of Scheduled Chems, which makes them
not legal to carry, consume or throw at people.
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AsAboveSoBelow
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Quote:
FeedingMyDreams said:
Aren't most research chemicals legal in the US because it takes so long to ban plus fat cat politicians don't give a shit if it isn't a known name?
Yep, I goddamn love this country.. Well, unless in the future they come up with some fancy legislation to blanket-ban any drug thats not being sold in a store or peddled by a doctor. That would suck
But who knows, even if they pulled some stunt like that the RC market would soar overseas. You'd have companies willing to send stuff over even if it's technically illegal, just like cannabis seeds. And of course.. customs has never busted anybody as far as I know for buying seeds. You just get a little note in the mail saying they've been seized.. the Great American Loophole in action
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Edited by AsAboveSoBelow (04/05/10 06:06 AM)
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Re: Research chemicals [Re: Todcasil]
#12333766 - 04/05/10 06:05 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Todcasil said:
Sorry pal, RC's are still mostly illegal here in teh continental US!
They are all Analogs of this or the other types of Scheduled Chems, which makes them
not legal to carry, consume or throw at people.
Yeah yeah yeah, just a bunch of mumbo jumbo. 
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DOM
is one id likely try if i had the chance.
2cb and the like... like 2ci, 2cc, 2ce i'd go for too
but i ain't gonna go outta my way for something that i could easily get in an lsd trip. and there are analogues of these drugs i'd like to get more then then any rc... like mescaline!
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MDMA was once a "research chemical".
Most of these drugs have been around since the 70s and you can rest safely assure that Shulgin has tried every single one of them many times (he's currently 84).
The danger comes in when someone who really doesn't have a fucking clue about these drugs gets hold of them and starts sniffing lines or eating obscene amounts, but this generally applies to any drug.
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Re: Research chemicals [Re: Cepheus]
#12334082 - 04/05/10 10:18 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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RC's kick ass
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Quote:
AlmostAsCoolAs said:
It amazes me how many people use these drugs despite knowing nothing about them safety-wise. I've been interested in trying some of them lately since I mostly hear good things but even if I knew of a legit vendor I don't think I could actually go through with ordering them just because nobody knows the dangers of them.
I'm not putting anyone down who uses them but it just seems risky.
Thoughts?
It's not like we have absolutely no idea what the potential risks are.
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Re: Research chemicals [Re: LSDreamer]
#12334434 - 04/05/10 12:10 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I love Rc's.
I wish I had a solid connect for em.
I love anything new when it comes to my mind.
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Re: Research chemicals [Re: Cepheus]
#12334438 - 04/05/10 12:13 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Cepheus said:
MDMA was once a "research chemical".
So was LSD-25
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Re: Research chemicals [Re: Mchaggis]
#12334469 - 04/05/10 12:21 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I feel pretty safe with 2C-I and 2C-E. They are close enough to mescaline for me to not worry too much about their effects. They always seemed mild to me (unless you dose a lot of it).
As far as them being analogues, only one case has ever been prosecuted on a 2C chemical. The analogue act REQUIRES that the chemical is to be sold for human consumption. If you just carry bulk powder, therefore, there is no way that you can be prosecuted, provided you keep your mouth shut.
I actually have a friend that was caught with a large amount of 2C-I but because it did not test as any drug known to the lab, they did not prosecute.
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Most of the research chemicals aren't as dangerous as you might think. There's just little known about them, which leads many people to fear them. Much like people did and still do with LSD.
Fact is if you know what chemical you have and you've read into it a bit you're pretty much safe as long as you aren't a complete tard that overdoses themselves.
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Quote:
supernovasky said:
I feel pretty safe with 2C-I and 2C-E. They are close enough to mescaline for me to not worry too much about their effects. They always seemed mild to me (unless you dose a lot of it).
No offense, but that is a hilarious statement! 
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