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Anonymous #1
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 Why are guys expected to pursue women, and not the other way around? 
#12129308 - 03/02/10 07:50 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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What are your guys' thoughts on this?
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Anonymous #2
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 Re: Why are guys expected to pursue women, and not the other way around? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#12129331 - 03/02/10 07:54 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Guys have lots of sperm, women have one egg.
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Anonymous #1
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Re: Why are guys expected to pursue women, and not the other way around? [Re: Anonymous #2]
#12129348 - 03/02/10 07:56 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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So what? 
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Anonymous #3
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Re: Why are guys expected to pursue women, and not the other way around? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#12129369 - 03/02/10 07:58 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Because if you sit around and wait for a woman to come, they don't because some other dude out there snatched her up first. Happens every time.
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Anonymous #2
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Re: Why are guys expected to pursue women, and not the other way around? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#12129379 - 03/02/10 07:59 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Women have to be picky with what sperm they let in their egg, they only have one egg at a time. A man has enough sperm that he can paint the town with it and doesn't have to be picky at all.
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Anonymous #1
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Re: Why are guys expected to pursue women, and not the other way around? [Re: Anonymous #3]
#12129394 - 03/02/10 08:01 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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But if you wait for several women to come, eventually one will land in your lap. Or they would if men weren't expected to be the initiators.
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Anonymous #1
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Re: Why are guys expected to pursue women, and not the other way around? [Re: Anonymous #2]
#12129401 - 03/02/10 08:01 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm not talking about having kids.
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Anonymous #2
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Re: Why are guys expected to pursue women, and not the other way around? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#12129409 - 03/02/10 08:02 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Anonymous #1 said:
I'm not talking about having kids.
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Anonymous #4
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Re: Why are guys expected to pursue women, and not the other way around? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#12129413 - 03/02/10 08:02 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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hmm good point, i found it always faster to chase them eventually one will fall u get the point
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Anonymous #4
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Re: Why are guys expected to pursue women, and not the other way around? [Re: Anonymous #2]
#12129421 - 03/02/10 08:04 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Anonymous #2 said:
Guys have lots of sperm, women have one egg.
lmao aaaa im still trying to figure this one out deep thaughts hmmm...
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Anonymous #1
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Re: Why are guys expected to pursue women, and not the other way around? [Re: Anonymous #4]
#12129434 - 03/02/10 08:05 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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#2- What the hell does sperm and eggs have anything to do with anything except having kids? Do you actually think that the fact that men are expected to chase women is a biological thing, and not a societal thing?
#3- I don't think men should do any chasing at all. Men chasing after women is shameful, IMO.
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Anonymous #2
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Re: Why are guys expected to pursue women, and not the other way around? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#12129440 - 03/02/10 08:06 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Do you actually think that the fact that men are expected to chase women is a biological thing, and not a societal thing?
Do you actually think it is not?
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Anonymous #5
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Re: Why are guys expected to pursue women, and not the other way around? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#12129441 - 03/02/10 08:06 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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But if you wait for several women to come, eventually one will land in your lap. Or they would if men weren't expected to be the initiators.
It is necessary to have it this way to keep shy men from reproducing.
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Anonymous #1
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Re: Why are guys expected to pursue women, and not the other way around? [Re: Anonymous #5]
#12129482 - 03/02/10 08:12 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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#2- The fact that men are "expected" to woo women is proof that it's societal. Also, in different cultures, things aren't like this. Eggs and sperm have nothing to do with this. 
#5- Again, I'm not talking about having kids. We have effective contraceptives today, and men who appear to be shy in public can be better fucks than men who appear to be confident in public, just like some publicly shy chicks are freaks in the sack.
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Anonymous #2
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Re: Why are guys expected to pursue women, and not the other way around? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#12129508 - 03/02/10 08:17 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Also, in different cultures, things aren't like this.
orly? Show me a culture where if women sleep around they get respected and if men stay chased they are respected. Id genuinely like to learn if there is such a cultural norm.
Regardless, for the vast majority of cultures it is not this way. To think that its not biological, at least in part, is completely ridiculous. I think the evidence points heavily to biology.
Although, I do tend to argue towards nature rather than nurture most of the time (but not all).
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Anonymous #6
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Re: Why are guys expected to pursue women, and not the other way around? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#12129513 - 03/02/10 08:18 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Anonymous #1 said:
#2- The fact that men are "expected" to woo women is proof that it's societal. Also, in different cultures, things aren't like this. Eggs and sperm have nothing to do with this.
#5- Again, I'm not talking about having kids. We have effective contraceptives today, and men who appear to be shy in public can be better fucks than men who appear to be confident in public, just like some publicly shy chicks are freaks in the sack.
he's not talking about kids.. what he's referring to is far closer to concepts in genetics and biology then "having kids" in the way you seem to be interpreting it.. now if suddenly men across the globe decided to stop chasing women.. i suppose its reasonable to believe that the tables would turn.. but women are far better at waiting around i suppose.. versus men.. we gotta spread them seeds fool
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Anonymous #1
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Re: Why are guys expected to pursue women, and not the other way around? [Re: Anonymous #2]
#12129530 - 03/02/10 08:21 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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The fact that men are respected for chasing women, and women are disrespected for sleeping around proves that it's mostly, if not purely cultural. What evidence points heavily towards the suggestion that this behavior is mostly biological?
It is retarded think that human behavior is mostly nature, as oposed to nurture, seeing how people in whatever given culture are practically idenctical to each other, and completely different than cultures that they share borders with,
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Anonymous #7
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Re: Why are guys expected to pursue women, and not the other way around? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#12129543 - 03/02/10 08:22 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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female here.
i think the idea that the male must pursue the female is a bit antiquated.
but, if he didn't put forth any effort whatsoever, i'd assume he wasn't interested, or was not confident enough. which is a huge turn off.
so i think it's best when both parties put forth some energy toward the pursuit.
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Anonymous #1
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Re: Why are guys expected to pursue women, and not the other way around? [Re: Anonymous #7]
#12129561 - 03/02/10 08:25 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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As long as you're not fat or extremely ugly, most if not all men would be interested. I understand that unconfident people are a turn off, but any unconfident man would gain self-esteem after being chosen by a women as a mate.
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Anonymous #2
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Re: Why are guys expected to pursue women, and not the other way around? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#12129569 - 03/02/10 08:27 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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The fact that men are respected for chasing women, and women are disrespected for sleeping around proves that it's mostly, if not purely cultural.
No it doesnt. That alone doesnt prove anything. Thats the conclusion, you cant use a conclusion to prove a conclusion.
Ive already given you two pieces of evidence that it is biology - the pressures put on by the mechanisms of many-sperm/one-egg lead to promiscuity being a a trait that gets selected for men, and selectivity being a trait that gets selected for women. This mechanism is supported by the cross cultural norm of these behaviors. Its not conclusive evidence of course, but it is strong and suggestive.
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It is retarded think that human behavior is mostly nature, as oposed to nurture, ...
Well, it looks like Anonymous #1 has solved the ancient debate! 
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