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 crackawebsta
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 You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed 
#12005257 - 02/10/10 10:53 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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So I was chillin with my friend Bman the other day and we were in the middle of a blunt when there was a knock at the door. We put the blunt out and answered it. Weed smoke poured into the faces of two young men, 17 and 19, who were standing at the door step. They came to teach us the word of Jesus Christ.
Naturally, we invited them inside to talk.
So first they start telling us the whole God and Jesus story and we were like "yeah, i think we've all heard that one"
We started to ask them about their religion. They actually said "We believe that god was a man, a human man." They said that they believed god came to Moses as a man. Then they said that some guy named Joseph Smith talked to god and god told him that mormonism was the correct religion.
We said "do you honestly believe that, in the vastness or our universe, god was limited to one species, and one mortal man." then we said, "and how could god have told joseph smith that mormonism was the correct religion if he hadn't even founded it yet?"
They just stared at us blankly.
Bman said, "maybe you guys oughta think about opening up a little bit. look at your alternatives, before you decide to be go gung-ho on this mormon thing"
One of them kept quiet (probably too afraid of going to hell to open his mind) but the other one kinda kept goin 
Well anyway, we ended up lecturing them for about 30 minutes and when they left we invited them to come back anytime they want, if they felt like chatting
They still haven't come back
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: crackawebsta]
#12005298 - 02/10/10 11:01 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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The last time I had a jesus christ messenger come to my door I answered the door naked. Since then I havn't gotten any more knocking on the door.
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crackawebsta
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: SillyBilly]
#12005310 - 02/10/10 11:03 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: SillyBilly]
#12005316 - 02/10/10 11:04 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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good story. religion's scary.
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: psycroptic]
#12005404 - 02/10/10 11:17 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Keep fighting the good fight Crackawebsta....
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: SillyBilly]
#12005405 - 02/10/10 11:17 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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The one thing I do like about the mormons is that every single mormon I ever dealt with was a decent human being. They were kind, courteous, compassionate, and meek. They kept their zany beliefs to themselves unless I asked, which was a change from the Christians that I have met.
But those door to door motherfuckers...
When I am stoned on a Wednesday afternoon the last thing I want to hear about is Joe Smith talking about Jesus in North America. I just answer the door, let em know I "don't have time" and thats it. It is just an annoyance that I don't want to deal with (and one which I don't have to when I politely have them leave). What is the big deal though, only a minute or two out of my day I suppose.
No reason to confront em or anything to me. The ones who try to spread their belief probably have had a great life and feel blessed to have had their beliefs as a guiding force and hope to share that with someone who may need help. I honestly do not see the mormons an manipulative as the Catholics or other sects either, since even they realize the ridiculousness of most of the book of mormon.
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: MrEd]
#12005438 - 02/10/10 11:22 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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last time mormons came to my doorstep i was coming up on E i had a conversation for 15 minutes on how i wanted to convert how i need a religion so on, i finally talked a bible out of them when they handed it to me i preceded to spit in it then rip a bunch of pages out and hurl it across the yard and say fuck your religion, they were all shocked and stunned and walked away without saying anything they never showed up at my door again
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crackawebsta
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: MrEd]
#12005440 - 02/10/10 11:22 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah, they aren't bad people, just far too close-minded
They don't even try to push their beliefs on people, they just state what they are. . .if you don't believe it, fine
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: MrEd]
#12005470 - 02/10/10 11:26 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I mostly just feel sorry for them. Truly the more you try to explain your atheism the more you start to see theism as rational. The same goes for the other way though.
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: SillyBilly]
#12005680 - 02/10/10 11:57 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#12005717 - 02/11/10 12:02 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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KroniclyHigh said:
last time mormons came to my doorstep i was coming up on E i had a conversation for 15 minutes on how i wanted to convert how i need a religion so on, i finally talked a bible out of them when they handed it to me i preceded to spit in it then rip a bunch of pages out and hurl it across the yard and say fuck your religion, they were all shocked and stunned and walked away without saying anything they never showed up at my door again
thats a fucked up thing i wouldnt even do that sober no less rolling 
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: Coaster]
#12005804 - 02/11/10 12:12 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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last time mormons came to my doorstep i was coming up on E i had a conversation for 15 minutes on how i wanted to convert how i need a religion so on, i finally talked a bible out of them when they handed it to me i preceded to spit in it then rip a bunch of pages out and hurl it across the yard and say fuck your religion, they were all shocked and stunned and walked away without saying anything they never showed up at my door again
thats a fucked up thing i wouldnt even do that sober no less rolling
well i did it rolling and rather enjoyed it my friends also found it funny the look on his face when i spit in it was hilarious
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#12005835 - 02/11/10 12:15 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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fuck anyone without any respect u have none at all
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crackawebsta
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: tenminutesofheaven]
#12005874 - 02/11/10 12:20 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah, that's pretty pathetic. They may be religious fanatics but I garuntee you they wouldn't do ^that^ to someone
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#12005936 - 02/11/10 12:29 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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KroniclyHigh said:
last time mormons came to my doorstep i was coming up on E i had a conversation for 15 minutes on how i wanted to convert how i need a religion so on, i finally talked a bible out of them when they handed it to me i preceded to spit in it then rip a bunch of pages out and hurl it across the yard and say fuck your religion, they were all shocked and stunned and walked away without saying anything they never showed up at my door again
Jesus fucking christ dude. What the fuck is wrong with you?
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Bodhi of Ankou
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: WakeboardrB]
#12006007 - 02/11/10 12:41 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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im an asshole thats what wrong with me 
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#12006042 - 02/11/10 12:46 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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im an asshole thats what wrong with me
You're more than an asshole. I'd tell you how I really feel about that shit, but I know the Pub rules and don't want to get banned on account of your sorry ass.
I'm not the most tolerant person in the world when it comes to religion, but I do recognize the humanity behind it and the people that believe it. And I would NEVER act like a fucking wretched douchebag like you did.
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Bodhi of Ankou
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: WakeboardrB]
#12006089 - 02/11/10 12:52 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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WakeboardrB said:
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im an asshole thats what wrong with me
You're more than an asshole. I'd tell you how I really feel about that shit, but I know the Pub rules and don't want to get banned on account of your sorry ass.
I'm not the most tolerant person in the world when it comes to religion, but I do recognize the humanity behind it and the people that believe it. And I would NEVER act like a fucking wretched douchebag like you did.
PM me what you think of me id like to hear it dont hold yourself back either
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#12006137 - 02/11/10 12:58 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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To be honest, I'm not even going to waste my time.
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: WakeboardrB]
#12006149 - 02/11/10 01:00 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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last time mormons came to my doorstep i was coming up on E i had a conversation for 15 minutes on how i wanted to convert how i need a religion so on, i finally talked a bible out of them when they handed it to me i preceded to spit in it then rip a bunch of pages out and hurl it across the yard and say fuck your religion, they were all shocked and stunned and walked away without saying anything they never showed up at my door again
Jesus fucking christ dude. What the fuck is wrong with you?
Mang hes just keeping it real
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Bodhi of Ankou
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: zengarden66]
#12006176 - 02/11/10 01:03 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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i exaggerated jesus people all i really did was spit in it drop it on the ground and laugh at them lol didnt think you pacifist hippies would get so pissed about that your comments were amusing though
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#12006194 - 02/11/10 01:06 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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i exaggerated jesus people all i really did was spit in it drop it on the ground and laugh at them lol didnt think you pacifist hippies would get so pissed about that your comments were amusing though
So now you lied to us to make yourself look like a badass.
Either way, you're still a douchebag.
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#12006212 - 02/11/10 01:09 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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KroniclyHigh said:
last time mormons came to my doorstep i was coming up on E i had a conversation for 15 minutes on how i wanted to convert how i need a religion so on, i finally talked a bible out of them when they handed it to me i preceded to spit in it then rip a bunch of pages out and hurl it across the yard and say fuck your religion, they were all shocked and stunned and walked away without saying anything they never showed up at my door again
Maybe you took a meth bomb. A dose of good E would stop even the biggest asshole from doing such a thing! Or you are just lying about the whole thing
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tripleclick
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: danlennon3]
#12006218 - 02/11/10 01:10 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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KroniclyHigh said:
last time mormons came to my doorstep i was coming up on E i had a conversation for 15 minutes on how i wanted to convert how i need a religion so on, i finally talked a bible out of them when they handed it to me i preceded to spit in it then rip a bunch of pages out and hurl it across the yard and say fuck your religion, they were all shocked and stunned and walked away without saying anything they never showed up at my door again
Maybe you took a meth bomb. A dose of good E would stop even the biggest asshole from doing such a thing! Or you are just lying about the whole thing
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Bodhi of Ankou
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: WakeboardrB]
#12006219 - 02/11/10 01:10 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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not to make myself look like a badass if i wanted to do that id go make wild sexual claims in one of the sexually related threads, i was really only wanting to see what ya'll say and how far your dislike for mormons went
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Bodhi of Ankou
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#12006228 - 02/11/10 01:12 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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no im not lying it was sold to me as an XTC pill it was a yellow key i dont remember that well cause it was the past summer but i think it was a rather speedy tweaker pill not pure E so it might have been a cut with meth or something similiar
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#12006240 - 02/11/10 01:14 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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ha you got called out and then bitched out
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WakeboardrB
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#12006245 - 02/11/10 01:14 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Maybe it was cut with pure extract of douchebag. Cause that's the only excuse for that kind of behavior.
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Bodhi of Ankou
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: jenns_hot]
#12006248 - 02/11/10 01:15 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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 not really
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: crackawebsta]
#12006283 - 02/11/10 01:24 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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having respect for the differences in peoples' perceptions is key. if you disagree, just tell them if you feel the need,
but to be condescending toward these people is to stoop to a level much lower than theirs.
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: jenns_hot]
#12006302 - 02/11/10 01:28 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I couldn't have said it better. Although I prefer to use more expletives.
Lack of tolerance towards others is one of the biggest problems we as human beings face. And it's fucking disgusting.
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: WakeboardrB]
#12006336 - 02/11/10 01:34 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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 words of true wisdom
but i still find what i did funny and although i wont go that far again i regularly slam the door in the face of anyone promoting religion at my doorstep they can take there bullshit elsewhere i dont have time for some religous nut's ramblings
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#12006381 - 02/11/10 01:45 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Why don't you gain an ounce of humanity and politely tell them that you aren't interested?
Think about it from their side. They believe they are doing "god's" work by promoting their beliefs. They think that they are doing a good thing. Ultimately, put religion aside and recognize that they are human beings, the same as you. Sure they have different beliefs, but that's no reason to treat them like scum.
Respect that and tell them you aren't interested. How would you like it if someone treated you the way that you have treated these people?
Humanity man, recognize it. We are all the same.
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#12006404 - 02/11/10 01:50 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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show them your emotional intelligence through civil and diplomatic behavior
also, looks like someone just opted out of the ratings game, lol
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Bodhi of Ankou
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: WakeboardrB]
#12006434 - 02/11/10 01:56 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Why don't you gain an ounce of humanity and politely tell them that you aren't interested?
Think about it from their side. They believe they are doing "god's" work by promoting their beliefs. They think that they are doing a good thing. Ultimately, put religion aside and recognize that they are human beings, the same as you. Sure they have different beliefs, but that's no reason to treat them like scum.
Respect that and tell them you aren't interested. How would you like it if someone treated you the way that you have treated these people?
Humanity man, recognize it. We are all the same.
i get treated like that on a regular basis your tryin to take to me about humility try to be native and live in a extremley racially sepereted small community every single indian here gets treated like shit on a regular basis from law enforcement, fellow students employees i know what its like to be treated like this, Do you?, do you know what its like to walk into a store and instantly have two floor walkers on you cause your brown or to have people drive past you and scream dirty fuckin indian out there car window, or to get into fights simply cause your native i dont think you do, what i did isnt really all that bad compared to what i see on a day to day basis around here so stop your poiousness and get real
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: jenns_hot]
#12006440 - 02/11/10 01:57 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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LOL, he did. He must have gotten butthurt over all the negative ratings he gained in the past hour.
Can't take the heat, get out of the fucking kitchen.
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: WakeboardrB]
#12006455 - 02/11/10 02:00 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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LOL, he did. He must have gotten butthurt over all the negative ratings he gained in the past hour.
Can't take the heat, get out of the fucking kitchen.
yes i did i can understand your two 0 ratings and i didnt really care but then there where two more out of no where for no reason so too much heat in the kitchem so i said fuck it and got out
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#12006456 - 02/11/10 02:00 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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KroniclyHigh said:
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WakeboardrB said:
Why don't you gain an ounce of humanity and politely tell them that you aren't interested?
Think about it from their side. They believe they are doing "god's" work by promoting their beliefs. They think that they are doing a good thing. Ultimately, put religion aside and recognize that they are human beings, the same as you. Sure they have different beliefs, but that's no reason to treat them like scum.
Respect that and tell them you aren't interested. How would you like it if someone treated you the way that you have treated these people?
Humanity man, recognize it. We are all the same.
i get treated like that on a regular basis your tryin to take to me about humility try to be native and live in a extremley racially sepereted small community every single indian here gets treated like shit on a regular basis from law enforcement, fellow students employees i know what its like to be treated like this, Do you?, do you know what its like to walk into a store and instantly have two floor walkers on you cause your brown or to have people drive past you and scream dirty fuckin indian out there car window, or to get into fights simply cause your native i dont think you do, what i did isnt really all that bad compared to what i see on a day to day basis around here so stop your poiousness and get real
I know persecution and hate just as well as you do. It doesn't mean you have to pass it on.
Break the mold dude. Think of how bad it felt when you were targeted. Would you ever wish that upon someone else?
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: WakeboardrB]
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no i would not wish it upon someone else but i wasnt racialy targeting them, i was seeing how well i can bullshit and if i could convince them that i really wanted to convert it took a lot of talking too do that then after they did they wouldnt stop talking so i did what i did just to end the convo and show them that i was just bullshittin yeah i couldve done it in a diffrent manner but i was already bored with them and wanting to leave so i did it the fastest way possible which was being an asshole it was a one time thing everyone has there moments of stupidity and assholeness
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: WakeboardrB]
#12006524 - 02/11/10 02:17 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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mormons are funny
they think native americans were the original jews, and gods chosen people
and they think that when they die they get their own planet
and they wear magical underwear
oh, and if you ever want to piss off a mormon, bing up the mountain meadows massacre
and if you don't know what that is, watch the movie september dawn
i fucking hate mormons, and i know a lot of them for some reason
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#12006533 - 02/11/10 02:19 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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You said and I quote "all i really did was spit in it drop it on the ground and laugh at them".
That's a pretty fucking big slap in the face and if you were really familiar with persecution you would know what you did was FUCKING HORRIBLE.
Think of the hurt you felt every time you were subject to hate. I sure know how it feels and I bet you do.
And what you did was the exact same thing.
If you really did that then you deserve to be persecuted and belittled as well.
Karma Bitch.
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: WakeboardrB]
#12006556 - 02/11/10 02:26 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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dude i ain't sure it's persecution if THEY came to HIS door and tried to CHANGE HIS FUCKING RELIGION
what jehova's witnesses do is inconsiderate, bigoted, and frankly just borderline retarded behavior
i'm surprised that anyone on shroomery has a problem with this guy telling those fuckheads that their crusading was unappreciated
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Bodhi of Ankou
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: WakeboardrB]
#12006574 - 02/11/10 02:30 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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WakeboardrB said:
You said and I quote "all i really did was spit in it drop it on the ground and laugh at them".
That's a pretty fucking big slap in the face and if you were really familiar with persecution you would know what you did was FUCKING HORRIBLE.
Think of the hurt you felt every time you were subject to hate. I sure know how it feels and I bet you do.
And what you did was the exact same thing.
If you really did that then you deserve to be persecuted and belittled as well.
Karma Bitch.
Everyone experiences persecution at some point in there life GET USED TO IT yeah being racially profiled sucks massive balls but i have to get used to it it may cause me a few fights but i no longer let it bruise my ego If your gonna go door to door tryin to spread your idea of life then expect others to speak there mind too of what there beliefs are and expect them to show it in any manner possible even if that means doing what i did im sure every single mormon out there gets ridiculed, ragged on and treated like shit everyday when they go door to door he didnt look all to butthurt when i did that im sure thats not even close to the worst thing someone has done to him while going door to door. everyones entitled to there own opinion's mine is fuck religion all of them there all fuckin retarded ass stories desgined to control people and you know exactly how i showed those zombie mormons what i thought of there religion just like they showed me what they thought of theres
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: laserpig]
#12006594 - 02/11/10 02:35 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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No, what they do is come to promote their religion. While they may use questionable tactics to fulfill their goal, it certainly isnt bigoted. And it's not inconsiderate if all you do is say "thanks, I'm not interested".
It's just like any other door to door salesman. All you have to do is either 1. not answer the door. or 2. say "thanks, I'm not interested".
He wasn't just saying their crusading was unacceptable. He was deliberately demeaning and mocking them, in such a way that was (in my opinion) horribly bigoted and pretty fucking terrible.
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#12006611 - 02/11/10 02:39 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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WakeboardrB said:
You said and I quote "all i really did was spit in it drop it on the ground and laugh at them".
That's a pretty fucking big slap in the face and if you were really familiar with persecution you would know what you did was FUCKING HORRIBLE.
Think of the hurt you felt every time you were subject to hate. I sure know how it feels and I bet you do.
And what you did was the exact same thing.
If you really did that then you deserve to be persecuted and belittled as well.
Karma Bitch.
Everyone experiences persecution at some point in there life GET USED TO IT yeah being racially profiled sucks massive balls but i have to get used to it it may cause me a few fights but i no longer let it bruise my ego If your gonna go door to door tryin to spread your idea of life then expect others to speak there mind too of what there beliefs are and expect them to show it in any manner possible even if that means doing what i did im sure every single mormon out there gets ridiculed, ragged on and treated like shit everyday when they go door to door he didnt look all to butthurt when i did that im sure thats not even close to the worst thing someone has done to him while going door to door. everyones entitled to there own opinion's mine is fuck religion all of them there all fuckin retarded ass stories desgined to control people and you know exactly how i showed those zombie mormons what i thought of there religion just like they showed me what they thought of theres
So just because you've experience it means that it's your right to inflict it upon others?
And yes, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. It's their actions that what matters. So what if you hate all religions.... Guess what, I do to. But I don't use it as an excuse to treat people like dog shit.
Humanity dude. We all deserve to be treated fairly.
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: WakeboardrB]
#12006627 - 02/11/10 02:43 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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they come promoting a religion that no-one whants to hear of they go door to door annoying the fuck out of people tryin to change there beliefs so there church can get more money if anyone was truly interested in converting they would go to the mormon church to do it, no-one is gonna change there beliefs simply cause some cleancut lookin mafucka in a suit asks you too, the notion that anyone will is fuckin ridiculous. And if your gonna go door to door spreading your bullshit then expect people to defend there own beleifs and refute your own almost all the time however they feel like it refuting it these people are wasting there time and there lives walking door to door to have almost no-one answer the door when you come and to shun you away if they do open answer the door im sure i was the first person he thought was actually gonna convert good for him i hope he gets the message that no-one in this day a age is gonna be all gung-ho to replace there values for some strangers beliefs and values honestly they should make solicitation of religion illegal
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#12006738 - 02/11/10 03:12 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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they come promoting a religion that no-one whants to hear of they go door to door annoying the fuck out of people tryin to change there beliefs so there church can get more money if anyone was truly interested in converting they would go to the mormon church to do it, no-one is gonna change there beliefs simply cause some cleancut lookin mafucka in a suit asks you too, the notion that anyone will is fuckin ridiculous. And if your gonna go door to door spreading your bullshit then expect people to defend there own beleifs and refute your own almost all the time however they feel like it refuting it these people are wasting there time and there lives walking door to door to have almost no-one answer the door when you come and to shun you away if they do open answer the door im sure i was the first person he thought was actually gonna convert good for him i hope he gets the message that no-one in this day a age is gonna be all gung-ho to replace there values for some strangers beliefs and values honestly they should make solicitation of religion illegal
I have a couple of Mormon cousins. We have Thanksgiving with them yearly.
They have 7 kids and several grand kids now.They are the nicest, most polite family I have ever seen. They actually know what family is meant to be and live it.
Never once at any dinners or family reunions have they ever pushed, talked about or tried converting anyone. Your assumption that all Mormons are douchebags and push their religion is complete and utter bullshit. They push nothing.
You either decide to let them in and talk with them or politely tell them you are not interested. They respect that and will leave. When they ask if there is anything they can do for you before they leave they actually mean it.
16 years ago I had surgery and couldn't do any hard labor. My lawn was getting overgrown and needed mowing. A couple of Mormon missionaries knocked on the door. I let them know that I wasn't interested. They saw I had a cast on and asked me about it. I told them what was going on with my surgery. As they were leaving they asked if I needed anything or if they could do anything for me. I told them my lawn needed mowing if they wanted to .
They said they couldn't do it today but said they would be back tomorrow. I thought to myself I won't see them again. The next day they showed up as promised. They mowed my lawn, did all the weed eating that needed to be done and asked for absolutely nothing in return.
I also had not mentioned My Mormon cousins so there was no motivation for them to even do any of this stuff for me. I have a lot of respect for the Mormons and how they act. You would have a difficult time finding a more decent group of people. I say this as an atheist and I don't like religious people.
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#12006746 - 02/11/10 03:13 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Dude, that's what Mormons and Jehovas Witnesses do. It's in their religious doctrine to spread the faith. It's nothing new, it's been happening for YEARS.
All you have to do is say "I'm not interested, thank you". And close the door.
But you felt it necessary to mock and belittle them. That's NOT necessary. All they are doing is following the laws of their religion. They aren't bad people and they don't deserve to be deliberately persecuted.
Mess with them a bit, that's fine. But remember that they are the same as you. They just have different beliefs.
I mean, WHAT THE FUCK DUDE. Is it that hard to understand?
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: WakeboardrB]
#12006787 - 02/11/10 03:20 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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WakeboardrB said:
Dude, that's what Mormons and Jehovas Witnesses do. It's in their religious doctrine to spread the faith. It's nothing new, it's been happening for YEARS.
All you have to do is say "I'm not interested, thank you". And close the door.
But you felt it necessary to mock and belittle them. That's NOT necessary. All they are doing is following the laws of their religion. They aren't bad people and they don't deserve to be deliberately persecuted.
i dont get it how are they the same as me but a diffrent person???
Mess with them a bit, that's fine. But remember that they are the same as you. They just have different beliefs.
I mean, WHAT THE FUCK DUDE. Is it that hard to understand?
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#12006871 - 02/11/10 03:37 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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So, can you explain to me your actions and why you are so intolerant towards religious folks (no matter how asinine their beliefs are), even after you claim you were victim to persecution?
I still don't get it. Lay it out for me.
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Bodhi of Ankou
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: WakeboardrB]
#12006934 - 02/11/10 03:53 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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kayyeee ill explain my thought proccess's and what made that okay
first i see the mormon's approaching the door i think hey im rollin right now lets see how well i can bullshit to these mafuckas and led them on.
so the come i start talkin to them everntually tell them i wanna convert so on they start tellin me when church is and where its located we talk som more for about fifteen minutes they start to annoy me cause they dont shut up
then i start thinkin i want them gone five minutes ago so i think to myself
a) im never gonna see these guys ever again
b)friends are right around the door out of sight listning in
c) in talking to them they seemed like real tools
d) enough time wasted already iv had my fun
e) well fuck it im gonna do something out of the blue
so i spit in there bible drop it to the ground in front of them laugh and walk inside
you see i was not targeting them specifically cause of what they believe i love playin these headgames with people ill never meet again this one i admit i took a little far but i wasnt thinking whats the worst thing i could possibly do to them and other then shutting the doors in the faces of relgious bible thumpers i dont really hate on them at all or dislike them that much other then there beliefs
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#12006945 - 02/11/10 03:56 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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So you're just a douche bag.
You give a bad name to MDMA.
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: WakeboardrB]
#12007144 - 02/11/10 05:37 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: jenns_hot]
#12007256 - 02/11/10 07:21 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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show them your emotional intelligence through civil and diplomatic behavior
also, looks like someone just opted out of the ratings game, lol
tune in, turn on, opt out?
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: ChairmanMeow]
#12007273 - 02/11/10 07:38 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I wonder why someone that sophisticated would opt out of ratings?
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#12007381 - 02/11/10 08:55 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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LOL, he did. He must have gotten butthurt over all the negative ratings he gained in the past hour.
Can't take the heat, get out of the fucking kitchen.
yes i did i can understand your two 0 ratings and i didnt really care but then there where two more out of no where for no reason so too much heat in the kitchem so i said fuck it and got out
i didnt even rate you
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: jenns_hot]
#12007577 - 02/11/10 10:13 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Guessing everyone already destroyed the e-tard a few posts up.
So I won't even touch that one.
Yeah. We don't get many around here, which sucks,
because I love conversations with people I don't know.
Especially very different people.
I remember being a kid and my dad would close the blinds
when he saw them coming  I was always like "Dad!
I wanna talk to the je-ho-vers winces"
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: WakeboardrB]
#12007618 - 02/11/10 10:25 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've had mormons and jehova witness's come by my place
They are so fucking annoying.. honestly. They were coming by at least once a month to try and "convert" me
I got fed up with the them and said some pretty mean things hah
it didn't help I was always opiated out back then too.. so I didn't care what I said
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: feifen]
#12008111 - 02/11/10 12:17 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've heard of E turning people into heartless beings.
These two kids I went to high school with, both decent and likeable guys, once took some E and ended up beating a cat to death with golf clubs in a pillow case.
To this day, if you mention it to either of them they freak out and tell you never to bring it up again.
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: crackawebsta]
#12008152 - 02/11/10 12:24 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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MDMA does NOT turn you into a heartless being
Quite the opposite me thinks
Unless your already a twisted fuck. Which they are.
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TTT
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: crackawebsta]
#12008206 - 02/11/10 12:34 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've heard of E turning people into heartless beings.
These two kids I went to high school with, both decent and likeable guys, once took some E and ended up beating a cat to death with golf clubs in a pillow case.
To this day, if you mention it to either of them they freak out and tell you never to bring it up again.
Thats very very fucked up.
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Kiefish
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: TTT]
#12008956 - 02/11/10 03:05 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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TTT said:
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crackawebsta said:
I've heard of E turning people into heartless beings.
These two kids I went to high school with, both decent and likeable guys, once took some E and ended up beating a cat to death with golf clubs in a pillow case.
To this day, if you mention it to either of them they freak out and tell you never to bring it up again.
Thats very very fucked up.
Eh what goes around comes around... No, it really doesn't, hardly ever.
Just put some AIDS blood in their Kool-Aid :-)
And yes, I've seen many people turn into brain-dead assholes
from over-abusing E. Not to poo-poo on the substance.
Like, soulless eyes, no sense of subtlety or being able to
interpret emotions. Specifically with that drug. But who knows
how much of it has to do with bad cut.
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: Kiefish]
#12009033 - 02/11/10 03:17 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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yea, i can't see that happening with MDMA... maybe if you get a high percentage methamphetamine cut in it, or a weird RC or something, but MDMA shouldnt be making people tense
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Kiefish
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: jenns_hot]
#12009047 - 02/11/10 03:20 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I dunno man.
I'm about to out myself but hopefully some
old-timers would be able to help me out.
Most drugs can completely transform a percentage
of people. Usually for the worse.
A percentage, relax fuckers.
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: Kiefish]
#12009138 - 02/11/10 03:34 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Real MDMA doesnt turn anyone into an asshole the pills i had wernt even MDMA they were the most cut shittiest pills in the city at the time and they where the only ones available i dont even think there was any MDMA in the pills themselves most likley BZP,caffiene and an RC
by the way im not an e-tard either after that i have only done it twice in the past 6 months
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: Kiefish]
#12009176 - 02/11/10 03:39 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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hey i'm not saying it's never happened, i agree that pretty much any drug will have a crazy, adverse effect on SOMEONE but it's gotta be extremely low with just MDMA
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Bodhi of Ankou
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: jenns_hot]
#12009213 - 02/11/10 03:46 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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with MDMA youll most likely find your self tryin rubbing soft fuzzzy things for hours while talking non-stop not being a complete prick to some mormons cause you feel like it, some drugs may make people assholes but i doubt XTC ever has its called the love drug for a reason
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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Yeah.
I dunno dude.
Prolooooooonged use is very different from a dose.
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: Kiefish]
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Yeah.
I dunno dude.
Prolooooooonged use is very different from a dose.
ahh yeah prolonged use you will turn into an emotionless asshole that can no longer see social ques or the like without the drug, that iv seen happen to some of my friends once they got addicted fuckin e-tards walkin around in stupor with the distant look in there eyes, real assholes until they get there drug then its only marginaly better
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: crackawebsta]
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I have an older sister that converted to Mormonism about 10-15 years ago.She is with the multiple wife Mormon people too! I have talked to her once in the last 10-15 years and she sounded like a stepford wife.I tried to bring up some old memories of the things that happened when I was a kid because she was really a hippy freak that watched me and my brother and would party her ass off in front of us.
My mom told me she said"I am not going to argue with his memory" like she could just wash all the shit away and forget about it like it never happened.I am still pretty upset but have come to terms with it.I will see her again one day and will have a nice long talk with her to see what is really there,if anything is still there.
She has been involved with Mormons before in the 70's(I found out from my mom)and she has gone from Seventh Day Adventist to Baptist to catholic, and it seems she is searching for something.I just have never been close to her and she is a half sister as well. Time will tell. My mom has to go sometime, and if anything I will see her then.
She sent my mom pictures of her holding the other woman's(sister wife) baby.It is very strange to see this on the fridge.I am the most normal one in my family and I am gay and like the big bear type men.My brother is some freak that supposedly got busted for peeping tom a few years ago.My mom is a hoarder that has 12 cats and 5 dogs with the shit starting to stack up in her house.
Fuck! what a cathartic post for me.Once again! Well I have said too much already.
Ciao for now!
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P.S. Needless to say I have a negative view of fanatical religious people.My babysitters son molested my brother and I,and he and a friend broke my arm while playing in the yard. These people were devout Pentecostals.My mom and several other families trusted their kids with them because of their outspoken devotion to their religion and their wonderful and kind/nice demeanor.There is no telling how many kids were molested by that fucker.The Mom also forced tomatoes down my throat with her hand causing me to throw up on her hand.I would not eat them and she yelled at me to eat them,and when I said no she got up and grabbed them off my plate and shoved them into my mouth and down my throat.I remember these things VERY clearly.
She also sprayed me down with a water hose in the yard one time when I sat on an ant mound by mistake when I was playing outside.I started screaming their biting me and she yelled at me to take my clothes off which I did,and then she proceeded to spray me off with the hose.
So yeah I say fuck them if they come to my house.I may not do anything as extreme as the guy who spit in the book,but I will let them know a few things and be done with them very quickly.I realize this is probably not the norm for a lot of self proclaimed "christian" folks,but it was my experiences that formed the disgust I have for the whole thing.I have also done some research and know enough to form my own opinion on what I choose to believe.
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: tyrannicalrex]
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Damn, that's a very interesting family you have there
And yeah I totally understand being angry at these people if your family/life has been affected, but I can hardly even believe what the OP said he did.
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: bardleyrichard]
#12010245 - 02/11/10 06:19 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Damn, that's a very interesting family you have there
And yeah I totally understand being angry at these people if your family/life has been affected, but I can hardly even believe what the OP said he did.
why not? all I did was invite them in to chat.
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: crackawebsta]
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Damn, that's a very interesting family you have there
And yeah I totally understand being angry at these people if your family/life has been affected, but I can hardly even believe what the OP said he did.
why not? all I did was invite them in to chat.
Wait, this isn't the thread where the OP said he took a roll and spit in the peoples' bibles?
Edit: haha I guess I meant KroniclyHigh, for some reason, I thought he was the OP, my bad crackawebsta
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: tyrannicalrex]
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She is with the multiple wife Mormon people too! I have talked to her once in the last 10-15 years and she sounded like a stepford wife.
Mormons practiced polygamy when the religion was first founded, but it hasn't been accepted in over 100 years. She must be in an offshoot of the Mormon religion.
Calling a polygamist a Mormon is like calling a protestant a Catholic.
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She also sprayed me down with a water hose in the yard one time when I sat on an ant mound by mistake when I was playing outside.I started screaming their biting me and she yelled at me to take my clothes off which I did,and then she proceeded to spray me off with the hose.
I don't understand. If ants were biting the fuck out of me, i'd want to be sprayed with a hose, too. Was it super powerful?
anyway, sorry to hear about those rough times, but it's good to see you made it out ok afterall.
still, i don't think you can really blame those experiences on the religion (pentecostal, specifically). a lot of my best friends are religious, even mormon and pentecostal. sometmies fucked up people just happen to be religious - that being said sometimes those crazy people use religion inappropriately.
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: jenns_hot]
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I dont understand why people are jumping on you so bad. It was an asshole thing to do, but i also think its an asshole thing to show up at my door talking loony shit. Maybe u will make one of them think twice about it before knocking on another door. Kudos to u sir.
And i dont dislike mormons or any other religious folk. I just hate them peddling that stupid shit to other folk. Atleast mormons usually seem nice tho.
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: crackawebsta]
#12010785 - 02/11/10 07:43 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have a problem with a religion where one man saw the 'sacred writings' and after he was done reading them angels came down and took them away so no one else could see them. Sounds like he was eating a lot of mushrooms when that happened.... 
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: jenns_hot]
#12011119 - 02/11/10 08:32 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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JENNS_HOT;"I don't understand. If ants were biting the fuck out of me, i'd want to be sprayed with a hose, too. Was it super powerful?"
TREX; The water was really cold and she was yelling at me like I did a bad thing.
JENNS_HOT; "Mormons practiced polygamy when the religion was first founded, but it hasn't been accepted in over 100 years. She must be in an offshoot of the Mormon religion.
Calling a polygamist a Mormon is like calling a protestant a Catholic."
TREX; About the mormon thing,my sister self proclaimed this to my mother calling herself a "mormon".I just go by the words I heard from my mom.
I understand that those fucked up people just happened to have been religious. I still have found over my 45 years that there is something not quite right about very devout/religious people.I have been burned by the fire of religion. .
It does good for some people,and it does harm. A catch 22 of sorts.It is paradoxical.
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#12011180 - 02/11/10 08:40 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Kroniclyhigh no wonder you're an opt-out.
Next time someone knocks on my door I'll be dressed up in a satan outfit, telling him how nice satan really is. "don't worry, he's actually not an asshole as Christians make him seem, he's a nice guy once you get to know him." I'll be saying something like that quote.
Like what Chris, I think his name is, did on jackass.
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: trip forever]
#12011345 - 02/11/10 09:00 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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One time when Mormons came to my door I got an opportunity to put a good scare into 'em. 
Now, I really don't like Mormons in particular, Jehova's Witnesses don't exactly strike my fancy either. I won't get into all the reasons. Either way, I'm still polite and just say not interested.
So anyways, these two guys came to the door and knocked. I opened it, they held out a pamphlet and said something about Jesus and yada yada yada. I said my polite, but firm, "Not interested" and started to close the door. One of the guys STUCK HIS FOOT IN MY DOOR JAMB, stopping the door from closing. I stared at him for a second, then turned around and let the door swing, walking into my house.
Went to hall closet and pulled out my shotgun and a box of shells. Came back into my living room, where they'd let themselves in. I clubbed one with the butt of the gun until he stopped moving. The other one was kinda frozen on his knees from pulling stuff out of his bag. I shut the door, then dragged him into my basement.
For three brutal days I ritualistically raped him repeatedly and cut him to form various imageries on his back. Secretly I'd been feeding his friend to him for those three days, but by the end of the third day the meat was really getting quite rotten and I think he started to figure out what was going on. Anyhow, I'd had my jollies out of the situation, so me and the missus chopped em up. Fed the top half to the pigs and buried the bottom half out in some swampland under an old mattress.
....Good times
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: circularvortex]
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: crackawebsta]
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It started out as a true story, but then I realized the true story was boring. So I spiced it up a little.
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: circularvortex]
#12013666 - 02/12/10 03:06 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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mormons do bother me some
there too pushy about there relgion
which i feel is based upon someone who was either hallucinating or really fucked up and thought a rock was talking to them.
i would say im sorry i said that but im not.
you brainwash people
you live in "compounds"
you don't treat women as people
you shun your young men away
i could prolly go on and on
it really pisses me off when im in walmart and you come up to me. never just one. always two or three asking me if ive been saved.
a few things have saved me and it sure as hell wasn't them.
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: Scudreloaded]
#12016928 - 02/12/10 06:26 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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come on... now you're just making stuff up
mormons do not live in compounds nor do they ask "have you been saved" or preach at wal-marts.
they also treat women very well
and what do you mean shunning their young men?
there are some sects that have spread off from the mormon religion but these people dont have missionaries anyway, so i suspect, sir, you're full of baloney.
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: jenns_hot]
#12018831 - 02/12/10 11:45 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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dosent feel like baloney
and sorry
i have had them come up to me at walmart while i was just doing my shopping.
trying to be all preachy.
they go door to door in the neighborhoods aswell
..and there was a 20/20 thing about a mormon compound in colorado city.
look it up
http://www.unbossed.com/index.php?itemid=2156
and i still don't believe they treat women well. its not a very well shaped religion in my eyes. just cuz women arent men dosent mean they cant have the same right as them.
and you've never had mormons come up to you and get all preachy trying to convert you?
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: Scudreloaded]
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from the article:
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breakaway Mormon sect
and i've seen mormons shop at the store, but theyre only there to shop.
when they came to my door they asked "would you be interested in hearing about the restored gospel of jesus christ?"
i said no
they left.
mormons are nice people.
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: jenns_hot]
#12019305 - 02/13/10 01:12 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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w/e...i have too many other threads im trying to pay attention too right now.
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: Scudreloaded]
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i explained the 'tale' of mormanism to a morman, and even he didn't get it
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: druqs]
#12019437 - 02/13/10 01:35 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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there they are on the moon too
they prolly travel around on there bikes everywhere.
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: Scudreloaded]
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mormons although they seem like really nice people and some are, there whole culture is really messed up its not even a religion its more of a cult it is a cult there beliefs are completley muddled and contridactory and if you have any knowledge at all of there belifes you can stump most of them with a single question there churches teach of a god an exhalted man however there are many other gods yet you question them about why there book of mormon has no teachings of this mormon god they are completley stumped stammer and reply with the usual blind faith remarks almost all of there teachings from the church and there book are contridactory there are many many more things that you can say to question there belifes and refute them i wont list them all here.
truth is mormons are people blinded by faith the main goal of there higer up priests the head honcho's is a one world goverment dominated by a single preist or more accuratly a king there agenda to make this happen is to get enough recruits to get some real pull with the worlds goverments they already have over 9 million converts and a massive church conglomerant that worth over 16 billion dollars they have multi million advertisment campaigns like hundreds of millions all spent on getting converts.
There treatment of woman is very poor they see them almost as servents to the male mormons.
they are controlled through fear, through fear of not being protected by god if they dont wear there proper garments fear of being sent to hell if they dont follow the churchs rules to a key fear of not reaching the highest level of heaven if they dont get enough converts.
the whole mormon thing is wierd and whack they may seem like real nice people on the outside but there not thats only there gimmick to get you to join. take for example Richard kuklinski the contract killer procailmed the most dangerous man in incarceration before his death he killed over 100 men out of greed with no remorse what so ever in any way you can think of yet he lead a perfect family life with a wife and kids who never thought for a second the extremly nice man they called father and husband could be a killer they didnt believe the news reports themselves until they heard him on testimony describing how he killed those men looks are deciving just cause you think the are the nicest people in the world cause youve talked to them for all of five minutes does not make them the nicest people in the world you dont know them or how they really are and act and think till youv lived with them or been around them for a really long time which i doubt any of you actually will ever do.
im not saying all mormons are bad people but the majority of them are really wierd messed up people taken under wing by this cult following and brainwashed to belive every lie they feed them then sent out to get more recruits. if you look at the rules of there church youll see quite quickly how there manipulated and used on of there golden rules for men is to go on a two year mission giving themselfs up to go out in the world and do nothing but sleep eat and attempt to recruit converts its only 6 months for woman and even then they cant really get converts cause only a male preist blessed with the holy spirit inside can lay hands on somone and take them into the cult as a new full fledged member.
there are many many books out there on the illusion of the mormon church and all of them contain this information type in mormon illusion or inside the mormon religion and youll find plenty of material to support what i have posted.
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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THEIR, THERE, THEY'RE
im not disputing whether or not the religion is based on fact or fiction. i'm just trying to say we should reciprocate their politeness and positive attitudes.
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: jenns_hot]
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The worst I'll ever do when a missionary comes to my door, is I open the door holding an empty forty, with lipstick smeared on my lips, waring a bra, boxers and have Rick Astley playing. Then I tell them "My mommy won't let me watch American Idol" Then I start Dancing.
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: Apollyphelion]
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The worst I'll ever do when a missionary comes to my door, is I open the door holding an empty forty, with lipstick smeared on my lips, waring a bra, boxers and have Rick Astley playing. Then I tell them "My mommy won't let me watch American Idol" Then I start Dancing.
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: feifen]
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The worst I'll ever do when a missionary comes to my door, is I open the door holding an empty forty, with lipstick smeared on my lips, waring a bra, boxers and have Rick Astley playing. Then I tell them "My mommy won't let me watch American Idol" Then I start Dancing.
Its even more so hilarious because I believe you are at least slightly if not more so very serious
Doing stuff like that is second nature to me!
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: Apollyphelion]
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: jenns_hot]
#12021663 - 02/13/10 03:12 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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i dont feel like there trying to be polite
there justt rying to get you to join there cult
so no respect goes to them from me.
...maybe to the guy that figured out how to make a cult work
but even then ..it still bothers me..it just dosent seem right at all.
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: jenns_hot]
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THEIR, THERE, THEY'RE
im not disputing whether or not the religion is based on fact or fiction. i'm just trying to say we should reciprocate their politeness and positive attitudes.
the WHOLE point of them being extremly friendly and polite is to get you to join there cult. much like all psychopaths seem nice and very smooth when you first meet them i mean look at some of the shit they all belive in
heres the end product of being brainwashed err sorry "saved" by the mormon cult
props to the leaders for making such a clean running perfect cult and brainwashing system there the only mormons ill ever have any respect for
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#12021764 - 02/13/10 03:28 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Anyone ever see that episode of south park about joseph smith and the mormons? If you haven't you need to fucking see it, it's hilarious.
You can watch it here: http://www.southparkmormon.com/
There is also a list of comparisons between how mormonism is portrayed in the episode and real life mormonism
very interesting stuff here, very thread-appropriate
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: crackawebsta]
#12021980 - 02/13/10 04:04 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Look there all racist against black also its a standard part of there teachings are all nice polite people really nice if they activally discrimanate against blacks they think there the spawn of satan on earth if they discrimanate against others they desreve equal discrimanation from every one else...fuckin nutjobs
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#12024360 - 02/13/10 11:41 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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jenns_hot said:
THEIR, THERE, THEY'RE
im not disputing whether or not the religion is based on fact or fiction. i'm just trying to say we should reciprocate their politeness and positive attitudes.
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KroniclyHigh said:
Look there all racist against black also its a standard part of there teachings are all nice polite people really nice if they activally discrimanate against blacks they think there the spawn of satan on earth if they discrimanate against others they desreve equal discrimanation from every one else...fuckin nutjobs
I am interested to hear the reply Jenns_hot.Is this the politeness and positive attitude that you speak of? I understand that we as individuals have to be the change we want to see, but I believe this kind of core belief that was/is instilled within the members of the "religion" of Mormonism(all versions/sects/splits from, etc...) is inexcusible to me. I hope that there are some people that practice and believe that they are doing good,and that they do good,but in light of all the evidence of downright lunacy/hatred it seems highly unlikely.
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#12024883 - 02/14/10 01:14 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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im not in a good mood so i feel like i wanna vent here
i really dont like mormons.
u bastards
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: Scudreloaded]
#12025439 - 02/14/10 03:27 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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"mormonism" is a set of beliefs that are shared by really good people and really fucked up people. its not a cult, it really is just like any other religion. its not anywhere near perfect, but the members want to believe it is because it makes them feel good. mormons are not ruled by fear, they are ruled by a spiritual, self-rewarding system. they don't fear hell because in their beliefs even the lowest level of heaven is more glorious than life on earth. blah, blah, blah could go on forever.
there are offshoots of "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints" that still practice polygamy and other fucked up practices. I don't know if they have missionaries or not, but the people at the compound or whatever you wanna call it in Colorado were members of "The Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints" which is way crazy and different compared to the big LDS church that has millions of members worldwide and all the money (which is used to build more churches and temples and to help out members of the church and non-members in need of help). There are a few other offshoots too.
anyway, i think mormons are no more crazy then any other christians, but they have the right to be. and yes "mormons" are christians, they worship christ. The fictional character Mormon wrote a book, just like John, Paul, etc.
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: psilyguy]
#12025465 - 02/14/10 03:43 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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what psilyguy said is completely accurate
those in the compound were not baptized or authorized by the mormon church. i've also never met a racist mormon, though it's probably true that the religion, at it's start, did not give blacks equal rights (though it does now). this is typical of almost any religion you study.
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: jenns_hot]
#12025512 - 02/14/10 04:07 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I agree on that for the most part. Many of the negative aspects
people are listing here can be applied to many religions of the
world. Why single one out? You may as well include Scientology in
there as well. Taking it even a step further, or a step backwards
to some, throw in Christianity.. even some flavors of Buddhism are
based more on philosophy than logic.. imo
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: SillyBilly]
#12025598 - 02/14/10 04:50 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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The last time I had a jesus christ messenger come to my door I answered the door naked. Since then I havn't gotten any more knocking on the door.
my favorite are jehovas witnesses!
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: ZenClarity]
#12028940 - 02/14/10 07:24 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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and psilyguy they are the very definition of a cult
cult (kult)
n.
1.
a. A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader.
b. The followers of such a religion or sect.
2. A system or community of religious worship and ritual.
3. The formal means of expressing religious reverence; religious ceremony and ritual.
4. A usually nonscientific method or regimen claimed by its originator to have exclusive or exceptional power in curing a particular disease.
5.
a. Obsessive, especially faddish, devotion to or veneration for a person, principle, or thing.
b. The object of such devotion.
6. An exclusive group of persons sharing an esoteric, usually artistic or intellectual interest.
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what psilyguy said is completely accurate
those in the compound were not baptized or authorized by the mormon church. i've also never met a racist mormon, though it's probably true that the religion, at it's start, did not give blacks equal rights (though it does now). this is typical of almost any religion you study.
There own Prophet or spritiual leader whatever you wanna call it John Taylor says him self that blacks represent satan on earth he's saying that without a doubt all blacks are evil treachrous and made in the image of satan you cant get any more discriminate against blacks then that and thats coming from there own LEADER only 6 months ago i highly doubt that theres only a few other racist mormons here and there with there own leader being racist im sure more then 60% of there followers are actively racist themselves
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I agree on that for the most part. Many of the negative aspects
people are listing here can be applied to many religions of the
world. Why single one out? You may as well include Scientology in
there as well. Taking it even a step further, or a step backwards
to some, throw in Christianity.. even some flavors of Buddhism are
based more on philosophy than logic.. imo
maybe because this thread is specifically about MORMONS not any other cult or religion
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#12029825 - 02/14/10 09:24 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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wow, kroniclyhigh, you are the definition of genius.
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: psilyguy]
#12029953 - 02/14/10 09:43 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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i'm not saying he isn't smart. he seems very inteligent. but i believe that these opinions are out there on the web and easy to find.
on a side note.
i walked in on my two grandparents talking about mormons and my grandfather said they aren't good and seem to be a cult.
aren't our elders wise?
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: Scudreloaded]
#12030083 - 02/14/10 10:02 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Scudreloaded, is the catholic church a cult? the mormon church has a similar organization, so if catholics are a cult then i guess mormons are too and you elders are wise.
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There own Prophet or spritiual leader whatever you wanna call it John Taylor says him self that blacks represent satan on earth he's saying that without a doubt all blacks are evil treachrous and made in the image of satan you cant get any more discriminate against blacks then that and thats coming from there own LEADER only 6 months ago i highly doubt that theres only a few other racist mormons here and there with there own leader being racist im sure more then 60% of there followers are actively racist themselves
in the past blacks could join the church but couldn't be given priesthood, this was changed in the 60s. mormons never said blacks represent satan on earth, they said that blacks were the descendants of Cain. sure there are racist mormons, just like there are racist people everywhere, but the church's established views are not racist anymore and haven't been for 50 years.
John Taylor was the third president of the mormon church in in the 1880s, thats no where near 6 months ago. That guy was polygamist, but it only became illegal right before the guy died, and he was not notably racist.
It doesn't bother me that anyone here disagrees with mormons or even dislikes them. But seriously, KroniclyHigh, you should realize that you don't even know shit about them.
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: psilyguy]
#12030133 - 02/14/10 10:09 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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never said i did that video doesnt look like its from 1880 though it looks like its only 20 or so years old
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#12030157 - 02/14/10 10:12 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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never said i did that video doesnt look like its from 1880 though it looks like its only 20 or so years old
what video? post it. it obviously wasn't John Taylor at least.
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#12030185 - 02/14/10 10:16 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#12030503 - 02/14/10 11:15 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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we're not talkin about catholics.
we're talking about Mormons.
i wish i could trips balls, fall over a rock. and then come to see that rock telling me to found a relgious cult.
only props i can give that cat is that i guess he pulled it off..
..maybe LSD in the water? or on the books they try to give out?
or some super drug only "they" know of
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#12030855 - 02/15/10 12:14 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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kronic, john taylor said that over 150 years ago, around the foundation of the church, and much has changed since then.
almost any religion felt the same way in the mid-1800s.
in the mormon church now, blacks are allowed as much privilege as whites.
i realize that some of the mormon's original beliefs are what most feel to be preposterous, but this is typical of EVERY religion
mormonism is as much a cult today as any other established religion. it's members are intelligent and much less judgmental than you seem to be
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: jenns_hot]
#12030870 - 02/15/10 12:16 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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jenns_hot said:
kronic, john taylor said that over 150 years ago, around the foundation of the church, and much has changed since then.
almost any religion felt the same way in the mid-1800s.
in the mormon church now, blacks are allowed as much privilege as whites.
i realize that some of the mormon's original beliefs are what most feel to be preposterous, but this is typical of EVERY religion
mormonism is as much a cult today as any other established religion. it's members are intelligent and much less judgmental than you seem to be
did you not just watch the video i posted that is not john taylor or whoever the hell your talking about that is one of there recent leaders
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#12030922 - 02/15/10 12:25 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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John Taylor (November 1, 1808 – July 25, 1887) was the third president of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints from 1880 to 1887.
the man they interviewed is one their more recent prophets, Hinckley, who was saying that blacks are now allowed in the church (but obviously he got a little stuck when trying to explain their previous exile)
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: jenns_hot]
#12030929 - 02/15/10 12:26 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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jenns_hot said:
John Taylor (November 1, 1808 – July 25, 1887) was the third president of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints from 1880 to 1887.
the man they interviewed is one their more recent prophets, Hinckley, who was saying that blacks are now allowed in the church (but obviously he got a little stuck when trying to explain their previous exile)
Karma enough said
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: crackawebsta]
#12030972 - 02/15/10 12:34 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Heh. I couldn't be bothered to read through 5 pages here since I just saw this thread. Lets just say that I can safely claim to have more insight into this topic then just about anyone else here. I still giggle at all the misconceptions about Mormons and their beliefs. Lets just say this, they are just another form of Christianity. Take your pick....Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Protestants, Jehovah's Witnesses, Seventh-Day Adventists, Mormons, or any others that you can think of are all based on the fundamental idea that Jesus Christ was the Son of God and the Savior of Mankind. All the rest is fluff, and much of what you hear about them (all of them) is distortions or outright wrong info.
And just in case you are wondering, I don't subscribe to any belief in a higher power or life after death. And the only time I've been to church in the last couple decades was for weddings or funerals.
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: ToTheSummit]
#12031182 - 02/15/10 01:10 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'd rather have 5 wives than give up meat on fridays or pray five times a day facing the middle east or give up pastrami on white rye with mayonaise
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: crackawebsta]
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: Scudreloaded]
#12031848 - 02/15/10 03:34 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Scudreloaded said:
we're not talkin about catholics.
we're talking about Mormons.
i wish i could trips balls, fall over a rock. and then come to see that rock telling me to found a relgious cult.
only props i can give that cat is that i guess he pulled it off..
..maybe LSD in the water? or on the books they try to give out?
or some super drug only "they" know of
Yes we are talking about Mormons, I asked a question about Catholocism to make a point directly related to the topic. You ignore the question because the point was valid.
And the situation you describe is pretty much how all religions come about. It isn't proven at all and there isn't a lot of good evidence for it, but i think drugs are indeed how the Mormon religion started. Specifically Amanitas, Datura and possibly Peyote. They may have been used in sacramental ceremonies when Joseph Smith started it all, but any drug use ended after he died with certainty. I created a thread on this about a year ago you might check out the link since you appear to enjoy finding negative rumors about this religion.
http://www.mormonelixirs.org/
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: psilyguy]
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And the situation you describe is pretty much how all religions come about. It isn't proven at all and there isn't a lot of good evidence for it, but i think drugs are indeed how the Mormon religion started. Specifically Amanitas, Datura and possibly Peyote. They may have been used in sacramental ceremonies when Joseph Smith started it all, but any drug use ended after he died with certainty. I created a thread on this about a year ago you might check out the link since you appear to enjoy finding negative rumors about this religion.
http://www.mormonelixirs.org/
This is fascinating, I never considered hallucinogens - I just assumed the visions were a myth and exaggerated in the Book of Mormon.
I read the first 10 paragraphs or so, and will definitely finish when I get the time.
You don't think they used psilocybin mushrooms though? I don't know much about datura... is it native to the NY area? How would Smith have gotten peyote?
How much do you personally know about this subject?
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: jenns_hot]
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I know a lot about the mormon church, but about possible drug use, all my info is from that website and my own speculation. Datura and Amanitas grow all over the place in NY and supposedly Joseph Smith lived near a road that the indians travelled often where he may have gotten peyote.
When Joseph Smith was killed he had a stone that was carved into a peyote button. Heavy Datura use would definitely make sense when you consider how often Joseph Smith was talking to people who weren't actually there. I don't know, maybe thats not how it happened, but it makes a lot of sense to me.
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: psilyguy]
#12035024 - 02/15/10 06:10 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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psilyguy said:
I know a lot about the mormon church, but about possible drug use, all my info is from that website and my own speculation. Datura and Amanitas grow all over the place in NY and supposedly Joseph Smith lived near a road that the indians travelled often where he may have gotten peyote.
When Joseph Smith was killed he had a stone that was carved into a peyote button. Heavy Datura use would definitely make sense when you consider how often Joseph Smith was talking to people who weren't actually there. I don't know, maybe thats not how it happened, but it makes a lot of sense to me.
that actually does make quite a bit of sense way more sense then joseph looking into a hat and talking to a rock whilst sober under the unfluence of datura its possible he may have thought he had regular meetings with good when infact it was just shadow people, all speculation as you said however. the peyote button stone does give some pretty damming evidence of it
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#12036222 - 02/15/10 09:43 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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from what i've read datura is not worth trying.even if i could found a cult on it.
i dont really wanna wake up naked in the woods somewhere and be lost.
and i've read worse. LoL
i know this may be a lil off topic but
do you guys think the jews or the mormons get more bashing?
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Re: You're not Mormon, you're just naive, sheltered, and brainwashed [Re: Scudreloaded]
#12037980 - 02/16/10 03:31 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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jews definitely get more bashing. how often do you hear someone say, "hey man, don't be such a mormon"?
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