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The Chronic

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Spiritual Practice? (Sadhana)
#11987528 - 02/08/10 02:20 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Please tell me your spiritual practices & how you feel they benefit your self realization/enlightenment/awakening?
I say that all practices are ultimately necessary when it comes to awakening, but i will not call your practice unecessary unless im asked to explain why i think practices or your particular practice is unecessary, but thats up to you, i just wanna hear what you do & why you feel it benefits your growth towards awakening?
Edited by The Chronic (02/08/10 04:09 PM)
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solstice
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Re: Spiritual Practice? (Sadhana) [Re: The Chronic]
#11988178 - 02/08/10 04:02 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Somehow, I have the feeling what you're really after is some " arguing food ", but I might be wrong. Nevertheless, let me throw you something to chew on:
These days I would label my practice: pantheist dervish with a pagan outlook that practices tantric meditation.
Put that in your pipe.
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Re: Spiritual Practice? (Sadhana) [Re: solstice]
#11988187 - 02/08/10 04:03 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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'Existence' is my spiritual practice
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The Chronic

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Re: Spiritual Practice? (Sadhana) [Re: solstice]
#11988207 - 02/08/10 04:07 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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solstice said: Somehow, I have the feeling what you're really after is some " arguing food ", but I might be wrong.
Maybe you didnt read my full original post, i said i wouldn't challenge anyones practice unless i was invited to, keeping inline with the forum guidelines... I never look to argue, just to attempt to make simple what thousands (if not millions) feel is difficult & arduous to attain through practice.
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Re: Spiritual Practice? (Sadhana) [Re: The Chronic]
#11988772 - 02/08/10 05:36 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Chronic777 said: Please tell me your spiritual practices & how you feel they benefit your self realization/enlightenment/awakening?
I say that all practices are ultimately necessary when it comes to awakening, but i will not call your practice unecessary unless im asked to explain why i think practices or your particular practice is unecessary, but thats up to you, i just wanna hear what you do & why you feel it benefits your growth towards awakening?

I'll bite.
I keep a dream journal in order to increase my dream recall. I then consider these dreams as messages from my higher self as well as for divinatory purposes. I use the dream messages to get insight on aspects of myself I may not orinarily be able to see - in order to move through fears, be more compassionate... and more importantly, for a good and excited time. I also consider certain dreams to be direct insight regarding important world events which are unfolding at an ever increasing pace in these exciting times.
The increased dream recall leads to lucid dreams in which I converse with dead relatives and spirit guides. I hone my concentration in the thought responsive dreamscape - practice for the next step:
I practice meditation (primarily zazen) in order to quiet the mind. This puts me in an aware state which flows into other states of consciousness, such as the hypnagogic pre-sleep state, allowing for conscious out-of-body experiences. Although I have had limited success thus far (more success as of recent), I intend to visit far away family members, contact and converse with higher aspects of myself, learn in various astral locals, as well as help the newly deceases find their way to a temporary astral way station. This gives me a fun and excited purpose in life. Eventually I hope to use my learned skills for healing.
IMO, awakening is all about awareness and shattering old, limiting beliefs. What better way than to explore the non-physical worlds?
-------------------- The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant, and has forgotten the gift. - Albert Einstein
   
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Re: Spiritual Practice? (Sadhana) [Re: c0sm0nautt]
#11988903 - 02/08/10 05:53 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Cool 
I thought you were markosgnostic until i saw your sig lol Musta been the lengthy paragraphs 
You didn't ask so i wont challenge your practice
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Re: Spiritual Practice? (Sadhana) [Re: The Chronic]
#11989109 - 02/08/10 06:16 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Challenge away!
-------------------- The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant, and has forgotten the gift. - Albert Einstein
   
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Re: Spiritual Practice? (Sadhana) [Re: c0sm0nautt]
#11989201 - 02/08/10 06:25 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Id say your practices are good, you have interest & thirst for discovering new things, but eventually you may tire of visiting all these different beings & places & only desire to be with what is eternally true, then ill be waiting 
Not that im saying you got lesser meaningless goals, just that you still have interest in those other temporary things, which is fine, have fun & play with them 
Eventually you will only settle for the Nirvana, nothing else will bring satisfaction, until then...
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Re: Spiritual Practice? (Sadhana) [Re: The Chronic]
#11989215 - 02/08/10 06:27 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I agree with you. But for now the ego still requires some "fun". 
What would you consider your practice? What do you get out of it?
-------------------- The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant, and has forgotten the gift. - Albert Einstein
   
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Re: Spiritual Practice? (Sadhana) [Re: c0sm0nautt]
#11989258 - 02/08/10 06:33 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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My practices, past and present
Designing and testing a system of initiation. Purpose: encourage a thorough understanding of 8 circuit consciousness, purify self of negative programming and imprinting, & guide identifications / behaviors to induce a gradually more spiritually disciplined outlook.
I was a bit spontaneous, the one major disadvantage of this was lack of a thorough grounding in the material, lack of a thorough practice of all the techniques which would have helped me along the way. It was good for increasing creative energy, and I think the effort was basically a success - but I got some mixed results.
More of my attention was focused on spirituality and consciousness, I came to focus more in my reading on relevant subject matter. And during the early stages of my initiation, with each new ceremony, I subjectively felt more aware. I encountered synchronicities themed after the ceremony itself.
I think it was all placebo, but I don't think that's a bad thing.
I think initiation can be used to loosen imprints, guide identifications to the point of their destruction, increase spiritual discipline & focus - I also think it can be used as a mind control device.
Meditation: mainly asana & freestyle visualization.
Forgiveness: a significant breakthrough. By forgiving myself and others, I suspect I released all my psychological baggage and guaranteed the success of my 4th degree initiation.
Introspection: I think it can help one to dissolve the ego, to identify that which it feeds on. I consider this mechanism self blame and blame of others, but the details very from person to person. Properly identify it, its emotional constructs, and learn to let go.
Meditation on emotional control: A simple self programming device, the mastering of which permits one the ability to choose to embrace the heart and surrender the ego - the ability to choose permanent ego transcendence.
On a day to day basis, before the technique is mastered, it might be helpful to choose one's reaction to predictable emotional high-key events before they occur.
Meditation to release emotional baggage: First attain an inner sense of love, safety, calmness, then regress to a psychological scar and release that tension.
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Re: Spiritual Practice? (Sadhana) [Re: c0sm0nautt]
#11989276 - 02/08/10 06:36 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well as far as traditional sadhanas go i do hatha yoga, but that doesn't contribute to self realization, apart from perhaps allowing kundalini to flow a bit better through the system.
The only practice that does really help is meditation, or jnana yoga, but its not a practice really, (its not necessarily sitting in closed eye meditation) it happens spontaniously by itself throughout the day, if anything the meditation is a discernment, an understanding that any practice, any effort, can only be to attain a temporary goal, so if your aiming for the infinite, or if the goal is pure awareness, being still (as awareness) is the only practice.
Thanks for asking as its helped clarify what im trying to say, my practice is simply 'be still/be aware', but awareness is already there, so can i call it a practice? Does awareness have to practice being itself?
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Re: Spiritual Practice? (Sadhana) [Re: The Chronic]
#11989672 - 02/08/10 07:29 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Chronic777 said: Does awareness have to practice being itself?
I think I would consider it a form of practice. I try and stay mindful during the day too.
So it it as simple as breath and body awareness throughout the day?
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Re: Spiritual Practice? (Sadhana) [Re: c0sm0nautt]
#11990035 - 02/08/10 08:12 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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asana, pranayama, meditation, ayurveda, hula hooping, cooking
my practices are inspiring by taoism, tantra, and sufism.
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Re: Spiritual Practice? (Sadhana) [Re: The Chronic]
#11992224 - 02/09/10 12:34 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I see my life as a spiritual practice. Every activity, experience and interaction is an opportunity to practice awareness of Self.
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Re: Spiritual Practice? (Sadhana) [Re: MOTH]
#11992239 - 02/09/10 12:36 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Socialising Exercising Reading Meditation and chakra work Listening to music and dancing. Generally pushing my boundaries.
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Re: Spiritual Practice? (Sadhana) [Re: DimensionX]
#11992622 - 02/09/10 01:30 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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i definitely dig the self inquiry you talk a lot about - for me the best thing seems to be realizing all sensory experience is like a faint vibration and then examine that vibration with respect to the three marks of existence (impermanence, no self, unsatisfactory)
i like to meditate on this body being eaten by maggots until there's just a skeleton - very effective visualization
taking and giving is an amazing meditation - i can't stress this enough - even if one isn't fond of visualization meditations (as i don't think you are, chronic) this is worth a try. start with the realization that just as you do not like suffering, no being enjoys suffering - out of compassion for them "i will destroy their suffering". imagine all the humans in this realm before you on a plane and see thick black smoke emanate from pores in their skin representing all their suffering (all the suffering of this realm - and beyond if you expand the meditation to the entire world system etc)... then inhale all the suffering and direct it to your heart chakra along with all self motivation and self cherishing and destroy it all (all while reveling in the sheer beauty of destroying suffering). after doing this a satisfactory number of times (sometimes one good go is enough), meditate on the bliss of knowing "all suffering has been destroyed" - and really believe it. for the giving part, think "just as i wish to be happy and blissful, all beings wish to be happy and blissful... out of compassion for them i will give them all my happiness and bliss - then visualize all your happiness and bliss emanate from your heart and flood the plane of beings making each and every one dissolve into nirvanic ecstasy - and really revel at the bliss of helping them while you yourself may not experience any of it. then meditate on the thought of "all beings are now free from suffering and experiencing utmost bliss and happiness - how wonderful" - this meditation really cuts through self clinging and builds compassion / virtuous motivation for practice - i highly recommend you try it once or twice at least 
i also do a yoga tantra meditation (self generation as a buddha) and an avalokiteshvara sadhana
hmm... i do a few mantras here and there - but haven't done too many really
the idea of practicing chöd has passed my mind - it involves the sacrifice of ones body to feed deities / demons - among other things - and seems to be quite powerful (though definitely something a teacher would be good for)
i'd like to get back into hatha yoga a little for the reason you said - freeing up energy pathways - maybe tai chi as well for this reason (though these aren't really sadhanas)
that's about it for now (feel free to critique away)
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Edited by deff (02/09/10 01:37 AM)
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Re: Spiritual Practice? (Sadhana) [Re: MOTH]
#11992791 - 02/09/10 02:09 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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MOTH said: I see my life as a spiritual practice. Every activity, experience and interaction is an opportunity to practice awareness of Self.
I want to get to this point... so far I only have had intermittent periods of lucidity/illumination and I'd really like to avoid being thrust back into the darkness.
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Re: Spiritual Practice? (Sadhana) [Re: deff]
#11993393 - 02/09/10 06:32 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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c0sm0nautt said:
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Chronic777 said: Does awareness have to practice being itself?
I think I would consider it a form of practice. I try and stay mindful during the day too.
So it it as simple as breath and body awareness throughout the day?
Not even awareness of breathe or awareness of body, just pure awareness alone (although that does include the body & its functions) It may sound bland, but it really really isn't, its constantly open, fresh & beautiful 
Being aware of the breathe can bring a certain amount of inner space & nonattachment, but its still focused in on one thng, which can (possibly) be blocking out other things, where as pure awareness doesn't block anything, everything swims up & subsides in it, none of it sticks
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deff said: i definitely dig the self inquiry you talk a lot about - for me the best thing seems to be realizing all sensory experience is like a faint vibration and then examine that vibration with respect to the three marks of existence (impermanence, no self, unsatisfactory)
i like to meditate on this body being eaten by maggots until there's just a skeleton - very effective visualization
taking and giving is an amazing meditation - i can't stress this enough - even if one isn't fond of visualization meditations (as i don't think you are, chronic) this is worth a try. start with the realization that just as you do not like suffering, no being enjoys suffering - out of compassion for them "i will destroy their suffering". imagine all the humans in this realm before you on a plane and see thick black smoke emanate from pores in their skin representing all their suffering (all the suffering of this realm - and beyond if you expand the meditation to the entire world system etc)... then inhale all the suffering and direct it to your heart chakra along with all self motivation and self cherishing and destroy it all (all while reveling in the sheer beauty of destroying suffering). after doing this a satisfactory number of times (sometimes one good go is enough), meditate on the bliss of knowing "all suffering has been destroyed" - and really believe it. for the giving part, think "just as i wish to be happy and blissful, all beings wish to be happy and blissful... out of compassion for them i will give them all my happiness and bliss - then visualize all your happiness and bliss emanate from your heart and flood the plane of beings making each and every one dissolve into nirvanic ecstasy - and really revel at the bliss of helping them while you yourself may not experience any of it. then meditate on the thought of "all beings are now free from suffering and experiencing utmost bliss and happiness - how wonderful" - this meditation really cuts through self clinging and builds compassion / virtuous motivation for practice - i highly recommend you try it once or twice at least 
i also do a yoga tantra meditation (self generation as a buddha) and an avalokiteshvara sadhana
hmm... i do a few mantras here and there - but haven't done too many really
the idea of practicing chöd has passed my mind - it involves the sacrifice of ones body to feed deities / demons - among other things - and seems to be quite powerful (though definitely something a teacher would be good for)
i'd like to get back into hatha yoga a little for the reason you said - freeing up energy pathways - maybe tai chi as well for this reason (though these aren't really sadhanas)
that's about it for now (feel free to critique away)
I like the thing about the faint vibration & recognizing the marks of existence, i also think your visualization is probably one of the better ones out there, although i couldn't do it, sometimes i get the great feeling that every being can & will come out of this samsara, but i couldn't practice it, it just comes spontaniously by itself. I could exert effort to visualize things, but its using imagination & i just don't feel that, don't get me wrong people can attain great things through imagination & invoke lovely states, but i see all those things & states will be temporary
What is true & real must already be here before any practice is picked up
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Re: Spiritual Practice? (Sadhana) [Re: The Chronic]
#11993540 - 02/09/10 08:02 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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the idea of practicing chöd has passed my mind - it involves the sacrifice of ones body to feed deities / demons - among other things - and seems to be quite powerful (though definitely something a teacher would be good for)
I may be taking that too literally, but that sounds to me like those deities / demons are running a con game.
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Re: Spiritual Practice? (Sadhana) [Re: The Chronic]
#11993732 - 02/09/10 09:29 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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solstice said: Somehow, I have the feeling what you're really after is some " arguing food ", but I might be wrong.
Maybe you didnt read my full original post, i said i wouldn't challenge anyones practice unless i was invited to, keeping inline with the forum guidelines... I never look to argue, just to attempt to make simple what thousands (if not millions) feel is difficult & arduous to attain through practice.
Yes yes, I read all that, but somehow it just seems to me like you seek to validate your own way by comparing with how others live their spiritual life.
And I want to stress the fact that I'm saying this in a non-hostile fashion.
This is just the way I feel about you.
And it also seems to me like you scoff at external rituals and observances because of your obvious immersion in yogic philosophy which usually puts more emphasis on inner versus external practice. That said, I'm curious to see how you can dismiss the benefits of regular ritualistic practice in the sense that it cannot help but remind one who practices such a thing of the sacred and the divine.
In other words, inner practice might very well be more efficient but the thing is, it can never be explain properly with words and because of that it becomes a lot more occult and difficult to approach. Not only that, but because of daily turmoil, inner practice can hardly be maintained by any regular joe in this day and age whereas, external practice is like regular exercise: it keeps you fit and forces you to reinforce a self-discipline that cannot but be helpful for the task ahead.
Which is conquering the inner peak of the ego.
This cannot be done after reading a few books telling about Indian mystics lives and sitting hours on end in silence. It starts with re-strcuturing your everyday life, acquiring self-discipline and then, only then, can one even think about conquering the inner world.
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