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#11980206 - 02/07/10 08:24 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Was Cannabis meant to be smoked? Was it meant to have fire added to it, chemically altering what nature put in place. When you heat cannabis greater than 115F degrees, you chemically alter the cannabinoids, terpenoids, and many of benefits of cannabis. Cooking food does the same thing, we all know fresh vegetables and fruits are healthier to live on than cooked meat, baked breads, and various other processed foods.
I began eating only raw, living, uncooked foods about 2 months ago, and it has changed my life. The only aspect of my new life that I do not agree with anymore is the smoking of cannabis. I have a small grow operation of my own, and produce roughly 2 ounces every couple of months. I try to only smoke once every couple of days, and never more than twice per day, but now I look at smoking cannabis the same way I look at cooking food. You destroy the enzymes in fresh fruits, veggies, beans, seeds, nuts and other plant matter. You alter the chemical structure of the food and thus making it harder for your body to process that food, taking energy from your mind, body and spirit.
What I have noticed in my 2 months of being raw is this: The span of days that I do not smoke, I attain a naturally sustaining bliss state from being in supreme health from raw foods. This natural bliss state is the result of elevated endorphins, serotonin, and dopamine in the body, as well as, a fully active immune system. I am in an alkaline state, rather than acidic, which results from all the alkanising foods that I eat (fresh fruits and veggies, almonds). When I smoke, I get tremendously high each time, as if it were my first time smoking, but as soon as the high is gone I feel like my normal mindset before I began eating raw foods. I no longer have that sustaining bliss state, or the energy and youth from raw foods, I feel burnt out.
We all know smoking too much cannabis will make you burnt-out (indica more than sativa, and some pure landrace sativas dont leave you burnt out), but smoking on raw foods made me realize something. It made me realize that cannabis was never meant to be smoked, in fact it is the MOST perfect food on the planet to eat, both for taste and nourishment.
Today I will begin an experiment, where I will cease my smoking of cannabis, but will continue the consumption of cannabis through the means that still has balance from nature, I will eat it raw, uncooked. There is very little research into the consumption of raw cannabis and all its anatomy, and even fewer people willing/able to go 100% raw to 100% cannabivore. I plan to consume 1 gram on top of my morning fruit juice every day for a 30-day period. I will not me cooking it into butter, nor will I be heating the plant material at all, but simply plopping the nicely dried and cured nug into my mouth and chomping away.
I have already eaten a few buds, but until today have continued to smoke. It is my great desire to move to a more pure state of mind, cease smoking, and see if a transition to the cannabis plant is a worthy plant to thrive on.
Background Info on Raw Cannabis:
[All Taken from http://www.cannabis.uk.net , practically the only guy on the net that seems to be diving into the aspect of a raw cannabis diet]
The Seeds:
Essential Fatty Acids : 30% of the seed is fat, of which 60% is unsaturated Linoleic Acid (LA - Omega 6) and 20% is unsaturated Alpha - Linoleic Acid (LNA - Omega 3). This 3:1 ratio of Omega 6 to 3 is well suited to human needs.
Complete easily digestible protein, containing all 8 essential amino acids.
Hemp seeds contain the highest profile of Minerals, Vitamins and Trace elements of any edible seed.
To maximise the nutritional benefits of Hemp seed it is important to pre soak the seeds, unless freshley hasrvested and consumed with the flowers. Pre soaking neutrtalises the enzyme inhibitors and frees up the nutrients making them more bio available. If you don’t pre soak the seeds then you end up stressing your pancreas.
The Leaves:
The body thrives in an alkaline state, but the seed of the cannabis plant is slightly acid forming. Even after pre soaking, the seeds remain slightly acid forming. Therefore to maintain a healthy alkaline state within the body it is important to utilize the highly alkalinising leaves and flowers of the Hemp plant. Acid imbalance is a major root problem to the general state of poor health of people consuming a 'westernized' diet of meat, dairy, frozen, cooked, processed and micro waved foods along with the widely popular drugs of refined sugar, alcohol and tobacco. All these drugs/foods create an acid environment, in which diseases thrive.
The Flowers:
The highest concentration of electron rich, alkanising, anti-oxident, Cannabinoids are found within the bract. The bract holds the seed, which together comprise the fruit of eternal life, botanicaly known as an achene. So why does ingesting Hemp flowers get most people into a state of ecstatic spiritual bliss? Well firstly there is the fact that you are feeding your body with a perfect balance of essential nutrients, but what really starts blissing you out is when you activate the Cannabinoid receptors. The CB1 Cannabinoid receptor system was only discovered by scientists in the early 1990’s and are located primarily within the brain, mainly in the frontal cortex (which controls thought), the hippocampus (the centre for memory) the cerebellum and basal ganglia (which coordinate motion) and the limbic system (which affects emotions). There are also CB1 receptors on the spinal cord. When THC is ingested it is metabolised by the liver and converted into 11 hydroxy THC which enters the blood stream and sooner or later crosses the blood brain barrier and binds to the CB1 Cannabinoid receptors, activating the release of Dopamine - the ‘bliss drug’ which gets you ‘high’. In 1992, the Scientist who first isolated THC, discovered an endogenous (naturally occurring) Cannabinoid called ‘ananadamide’. The brain also creates another Cannabinoid called 2-arachidonylglycerol (2-AG). The effects of these endogenous Cannabinoids are similar to THC, and other animals also have CB1 Cannabinoid receptor systems. THC is just one of sixty or so Cannabinoids, all of which, I feel have healing properties. The scientific analysis of these is still being conducted. Not only does the ingestion of Cannabinoids bring us into a state of divine spiritual bliss, it does wonders for the physical body. As plants grow they absorb the Sun’s photon light energy and through the magical alchemical process of photosynthesis convert this into electron rich chlorophyll and unique to the Hemp plant, the super electron rich Cannabinoids of which Tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) is the most electron rich molecule in the plant kingdom. As Cannabinoids are ingested they seek out free radical damage (such as tumours and cancers) and rebuild the body on a cellular level bringing us back to our perfect design self. THC also mimics the action of Estradiol, a hormone responsible for healing nerve and brain damage.
The Male Pollen:
Eating the male pollen is also highly beneficial as it is a highly complex structured protein, with a wide spectrum of nutrients, growth hormones, uncorrupted DNA and high levels of lecithin which help build brain and organ tissue. The protein within pollen contains high levels of tryptophan which is a precursor to serotonin an important neurotransmitter involved in waking consciousness which converts into a regulatory hormone (melatonin) that shuts down the organ systems, quieting the body in preparation for the finer and subtler realities of higher consciousness. The pineal gland initiates a cascade of inhibitory reactions, permitting visions and dream states to emerge in our conscious awareness. Eventually, the brain synthesizes the "spirit molecules" 5-methoxy-dimethyltryptamine (5-MeO-DMT) and dimethyltryptamine (DMT), facilitating the transcendental experiences of universal love and compassion.
[All Taken from http://www.cannabis.uk.net , practically the only guy on the net that seems to be diving into the aspect of a raw cannabis diet]
The cannabis plant can heal the nations! It grows vigorously, like a weed, yields very much fruit and nutrients, and penetrates the soil with its roots in a way that it aerates the soil for next seasons crop. It can grow in any environment higher than 32F degress, and thrives in moist tropical environments. It is the perfect food, able to feed hundreds of mouths from a single acre, compare this to how many mouths 67 cows on one acre can feed.
I hope some people found this post thought provoking, and I open it to any and all debates and arguments. Cannabis is very close to legalization, and it is quite possible we will very soon realize that cannabis is the greatest food in the world.
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Oh let me add that the only reason I began eating raw foods was to achieve the well-known bliss state you get in. This is literally like being high on cannabis all day everyday, but without any negative side effects of smoking. I have more energy, youth, beautiful skin and clear eyes.
I see raw cannabis as the ultimate food to live and thrive on. We all know you can eat ramen noodles for a month and still be alive, but will you be ALIVE and thriving? You can eat breads, cooked meats, cooked veggies and various corn starch products, and you will be alive, but will you be living? You can eat all raw foods, raw fruits, veggies, nuts and seeds, and achieve a level of health that puts you into a happy mindset all the time, but you still will not be fully alive. Cannabis has every spectrum of nutrient the human body not only needs to live, but THRIVE. As well as every nutrient, it has the cannabinoids, when coupled with your raw bliss state, you achieve a seemingly ecstatic state, nothing like smoking cannabis or eating cooked cannabis edibles.
let me also add this very unique and interesting fact I found, and have slowly been discovering:
Take a normal person eating a SAD [Standard American Diet] and he/she eats a 1 gram sample of raw cannabis. That individual would find the taste of the bud, its trichomes (which consist of the cannabinoids, responsible for the high, and the terpenoids, responsible for the smell and flavor) very spicey, peppery and hash like. If you have ever tasted any type of hash you know it is very spicey and borderline unpleasant. When you take a person that has been living on raw foods long enough, and has achieved an alkaline state in the body, the perception of taste of cannabis buds changes. This individual will place the same 1 gram sample in his mouth, and taste the most delicious fruit, floral, sweet, citrus, sour flavors in the world. The taste transitions from peppery and unpleasant, to its true taste which is the most amazing taste on Earth.
I have already noticed this, although I am not in a full alkaline state. I notice the buds are still peppery, but tolerable, but the longer your chew, the more digestive juices in your mouth break down the material in your mouth. The taste, for me, transitioned from peppery, to an almost alien-like fruit taste. The depth of the fruit taste was deeper than any fruit ive ever eaten, and remains the most intriguing aspect of eating raw cannabis.
What if cannabis was meant to be our number one source for everything: Food, clothes, building materials, everything. What if, through the breeding of various landrace strains, you can breed for the most delicious flavors on Earth, much like we breed today for the most delicious aromas. Cannabis is meant to be eaten, not smoked. This is my opinion and if you look at it from a scientific standpoint, it makes clear sense.
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This was an excellent read I am very interested in this thank you for you time and dedication and above all posting it here where my eyes have crossed it
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Re: Raw Cannabis [Re: Parapipe]
#11980299 - 02/07/10 09:12 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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You are very welcome Parapipe. I am still very young, 20 years old, but I am slowly making it my life purpose to educate people on Raw Foods, Exercise, Sex, Meditation, and most importantly: Raw Cannabis.
I have no personal experience in eating a full raw cannabis diet, but all evidence suggests that it is the most balanced food for the human body.
feel free to share this knowledge with anyone and everyone, as people have a right to know the absolute truth.
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You write clearly.
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Re: Raw Cannabis [Re: Me_Roy]
#11980508 - 02/07/10 10:31 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think marijuana is an incredible plant, so beautiful, anyone that enjoys smoking or eating it should grow one plant just so they get a deeper understanding of the plant
Ive never tried eating it raw, i always considered as something to make extracts from (cannabutter)
Id love to hear what happens when you eat bud though, just out of curiosity
I think in alot of ways it can heal humanity, but im not sure about just straight eating the buds
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Id love to hear what happens when you eat bud though, just out of curiosity
I think in alot of ways it can heal humanity, but im not sure about just straight eating the buds
I eventually plan to move to a 100% cannabivore diet (cannabis diet sp?), but it is so very difficult in todays society, where they put emphasis on cheeseburgers, and not a naturally occuring plant.
If you were to just eat a raw bud, and you arent a raw foodist, or you are eating unnatural foods, you would only immediatlely benefit from the anti-oxidant, anti-bacterial, anti-inflammatory effects that come from the flowers and trichomes. You would not get high, in the same sense that smoking gets you high. In fact, even if a raw foodist ate a raw bud, the THC would not immediately take effect like eating cooked cannabutter edibles. The effects would be dramatically different, in that they contribute to the over-all sense of well being you have already attained from raw foods (among other forms of exercise of the mind, body and spirit). I believe the closer your body is to homeostasis, and the more alkaline your body is, the faster and more efficient you can absorb the raw THC, but it will never be like smoking or eating cooked edibles.
I will have to continue updates on this thread of any differences in my mindset from eating the raw buds.
Also keep in mind that when you smoke cannabis, you immediately convert THCA, the precursor of THC D9, to the active constituent of Delta 9 THC. The effects of smoking are dramatically different from eating cooked cannabis edibles. WHen you cook the plant matter into butter, the fat absorbs the THCA and converts it to a readily useable form in the body- Delta 9 THC. But, when you begin digesting the cannabutter, your body converts it even further to Delta 11 THC. Delta 11 THC is a similar molecule, but it has slower onset, stronger effects, and longer duration. But, this is why I am scientifically blind.
What is the different between eating cooked cannabis, vs raw cannabis. We already know that cooking the cannabis flowers destroys any enzymes in the leafy material, making it harder to digest. When you cook the cannabis you also boil off all the terpenoids. The terpenoids are responsible for the aroma and flavor, and they are VERY important and must be there. I could go very in depth in the relation between cannabinoids and terpenoids and the cannabis high, but that is for another post/thread. Anyways, the terpenoids get boiled off, thus you have already removed TWO very important things nature put in place, to maintain healthy balance. I am still blind as to what chemically happens to the other 65 cannabinoids, as well as, THC, when you cook the marijuana. All I know is I trust in the balance of nature, and so I trust that eating raw buds is healthier for you than eating cooked buds or smoking.
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For medicinal/health reasons it seems better to consume unheated cannabinoids for sure
I just think my body would reject digesting the plant matter
Also, the whole thing about wanting to be in that bliss state 24/7, nothing can ever really do that for you, diet & exercise are good to have agreeable body health, but the seeking to unite with bliss all the time is an urge thats beyond maintaining bodily health, bodily health is inevitably temporary so maintaining permanent bliss through any body is impossible
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Ok I was tempted to post some more information regarding cannabis, but all of this is closely tied to everything in my above posts:
Regarding Terpenoids and Cannabinoids, very few people know that the terpenoids are just as responsible for the high as THC is. We all THC is the most prevalent constituent in cannabis, giving the user the euphoria, and sense of well being. But, very few people know why cannabis has a seemingly endless array of aromas. In nature, there are a set of chemicals that give life to our nostrils, these are called terpenes, or terpenoids. Terpenoids are found in just about all plant life. They are found in trees, shrubs, roots, flowers, bark, etc. This is how the aromatherapy industry spawned. People realized they could extract the various terpenoids in nature, purify them, and are therefore easily able to benefit from smelling these terpenoids.
In aromatherapy, my favorite oil is Rose Otto. Rose Otto is the king of all Essential Oils. It has the highest measureable bio-electric frequency of any substance on Earth, measured at 320 Hz. Rose Oil operates the same way as any terpenoid in nature. It operates on your limbic system. Your limbic system is directly connected to your Olfactory sense of smell. The limbic system is the only system in the body that has direct access to one of our senses. The limbic system is responsible for emotions, memories, and dopamine production and release. When you smell a pure Rose Otto (steam distilled Rose Oil), you immediately feel a sensation. This sensation results from the constituents in the rose oil operating on the limbic system. Rose Oil actually operates on the dopamine production and release. When you smell ROse Oil, you actually release more dopamine into the system, giving you a sense of peace and well being. Not only does it help release dopamine, but smelling rose oil helps with dopamine production, making your body more efficient. This is why people tell you to stop and smell the roses.
How does this relate to cannabis? Cannabis is an amazing plant. It somehow gained this amazing ability to REPLICATE every natural terpenoid or constituent in nature. You can have a pine bud, or a fruity bud, or an ammonia bud, or a skunky bud, or a floral bud etc etc. All of these terpenoids operate on the limbic system, as well as replicating natural constituents or hormones in our blood. Everything in our body operates through chemical messages, so it is no wonder that these natural constituents have an effect on the body. If you were to breed a rose smelling strain of marijuana, I can assure you that it will have a very uplifting, happy, warm hearted high. This is because the cannabis strain replicated the constituents in the rose flower, and by ingesting the smoke into your lungs, you are absorbing those constituents.
I highly suggest anyone that is very in tune, to read up on aromatherapy, and purchase a small bottle of Rose Otto, or any essential oil for that matter. I can tell you that Rose Otto and Rose Absolute are my favorite oils, and for good reason.
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I just think my body would reject digesting the plant matter
Also, the whole thing about wanting to be in that bliss state 24/7, nothing can ever really do that for you, diet & exercise are good to have agreeable body health, but the seeking to unite with bliss all the time is an urge thats beyond maintaining bodily health, bodily health is inevitably temporary so maintaining permanent bliss through any body is impossible
Your body most likely would reject the plant matter as your digestive system is very inefficient from eating cooked foods. YOur digestive tract actually develops a thin, thick, viscous layer that protects your stomach from all the free-radicals of cooked food. WHen you begin eating Raw Foods, your body will begin to expell this thin layer through your poop, or in this case, diarrhea.
So, while initially eating raw buds would be hard on your system, if your system is used to plant matter, it would be absorbed very efficiently, no gas, no acid reflux, no over eating etc etc.
And I have to disagree with you on 24/7 bliss being unobtainable. If you were to travel to a Buddhist Monastery, you would realize these people have dedicated their lives to achieving this state through meditation. They also eat raw foods, but only foods that come from trees or shrubs, or something that wont kill the plant by harvesting the fruit. If you went to these Monasteries, and told those people that their quest for Enlightenment is unobtainable, they would likely disagree with you, and for good reason. Unless you have experienced a meditative state, or a runners high, or a Raw Food High, or sex with the opposite sex, you will never have full understanding.
This thread isnt formed to tell everyone they should be eating raw cannabis rather than that cheeseburger, or microwaved food item, or cereal, or dairy and poultry. This thread is formed to inform those that there is something higher our there. Think back to any drug experience, and remember how high you were then... Whether you were smoking a joint of reggie, or rolling on some X, or pushing some nice morphine, you can achieve a higher High through natural means, but only if you want to seek that higher High.
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I wasn't saying 24/7 bliss is unobtainable, i said its unobtainable through dependence on anything, that includes the body at peak health
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I am not understanding you when you say depending on the body. Everyone has their own interpretations of the body, but you cannot deny that fact that body is connected to the mind is connected to the spirit. The health of your body affects your mind, and the health of your mind affects the body, and these both affect the spirit. It is impossible to achieve enlightenment unless you take care of your body. You should never be dependent on your body, but you must maintain it. Buddhists, although they are very lean (not skinny), do maintain their physical health, by means of various projects, and of course eating food straight from the Earth. Whether Enlightenment is possible or not, I believe humans are not perfect. We can never achieve a "perfect" bliss state, but like an asymptote on a curve graph, you can get pretty darn close to perfect if you desired.
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It doesn't come for granted that perfect body health = enlightenment, its an assistance thats all, as is every other practice when it comes to enlightenment.
It really doesn't depend on a healthy body, most get enlightened on their deathbed when health is at its least. Its really all about death so its not about any body or any form. Theres been people who show very little importance towards the body & they are revered by millions as 'enlightened'
I love feeling healthy, but when ity comes to enlightenment, its beyond all of this trying to be perfect, its already perfect
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Well my idea of it all is this, and I have gathered this from experience:
Being in a healthier state in the mind, body and spirit, it becomes increasingly easy to meditate. I was practicing meditation before I went raw. When I went raw, I immediately noticed an ease to fall into a meditative state faster, and stay there longer. Being in this state longer releases more endorphins, clearing your mind more effectively, and bring a greater sense of well being. Being on raw foods, you already have more endorphins in the body than you ever could have from eating cooked.
I believe cannabis, with respect to meditation and achieving enlightenment, provides the body with the purest source of fuel. Living with this purist source of fuel allows you to achieve enlightenment faster.
I really dont want to delve too deep into enlightenment though,as its not really the meat of the thread. The meat is that cannabis is the most wholesome, pure source of fuel for the body in existence. This is fact based on scientific evidence, this is not an opinion. The opinion is this: I believe people will be more loving, blissful individuals if they were allowed by law to consume cannabis.
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THIS sounds amazing!, always something i have wanted to do but i dont grow my own buds so cannot afford to be eating it,
i am also trying a raw diet and feeling Great! please let me/us know how you get on using this SUPERFOOD! everyday! the way it was meant to be used
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Here’s to the crazy ones. The misfits. The rebels. The troublemakers. The round pegs in the square holes. The ones who see things differently. They’re not fond of rules. And they have no respect for the status quo. You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them. About the only thing you can’t do is ignore them. Because they change things. They push the human race forward. And while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
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Re: Raw Cannabis [Re: Gosus]
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THIS sounds amazing!, always something i have wanted to do but i dont grow my own buds so cannot afford to be eating it,
i am also trying a raw diet and feeling Great! please let me/us know how you get on using this SUPERFOOD! everyday! the way it was meant to be used
I will most definitely keep everyone updated, though I suspect I will not notice any dramatic results in my mindset from 1 gram per day. I plan to have a large enough outdoor grow this summer to go 100% cannabivore for 30 days, which will be very exciting.
That is great that you have switched to raw foods, it is a tremendous feeling when you experience that first bout of bliss, from simply eating what your body wants . That bliss feeling only becomes longer, stronger as time goes on, and you will experience detox only sparingly. Whatever your motivation is to stay raw, know that it eventually becomes the easiest lifestyle to adhere to. Its not just another diet fad, but a lifestyle. You will eventually crave various fruits, veggies, nuts or seeds. I used to hate pineapple, but my favorite juice now is pineapple+banana.
If you have interest in superfoods and have never looked into bee pollen, that is definitely an interesting superfood. There are some vegans that do not consume bee pollen because it is an animal product, that doesnt necessarily hurt the bees, but takes away from their food source. Interestingly enough with cannabis, your males arent useless (outside of breeding). Take those male flower parts [pollen pods], and just chow down. Pollen is very good for you .
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Goji berries, Cacao, Maca, Bee pollen, Coconut, camu camu, Ormus, Acai, HEMP! superfoooooods
i work in a health food store, we have bee pollen mountains!
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Here’s to the crazy ones. The misfits. The rebels. The troublemakers. The round pegs in the square holes. The ones who see things differently. They’re not fond of rules. And they have no respect for the status quo. You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them. About the only thing you can’t do is ignore them. Because they change things. They push the human race forward. And while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
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Re: Raw Cannabis [Re: Gosus]
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I recently purchased some Fo-Ti, Maca Powder, cacao and goji berries.
If you want to take the bliss state even higher making a raw coffee of cacao, cashews, maca powder, fo-ti, nutmeg, agave nectar and some water and ice. Ill have to go find the recipe, but the mixture of these different superfoods creates a natural type of ecstasy drink, gives you alot of energy, euphoria, and a certain level of empathy.
Ill post later with the exact recipe, but I love this drink every couple of mornings. The interesting thing about this drink (recipe created by David Wolfe I believe) is the combination of the Fo-Ti and cacao. Cacao is very anti-oxidant rich, and fo-ti is a type of anti-oxidant agonist, creating a synergistic effect with the youthful anti-aging properties. The Maca is an adaptogen that is a very dense source of energy. I know the Maca has given me a tolerance to colder temperatures, as well as more endurance during work outs.
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It really doesn't depend on a healthy body, most get enlightened on their deathbed when health is at its least. Its really all about death so its not about any body or any form
I've never been able to ask anyone if they where enlightened on their death bed, cause they are usually dead and gone by that point..
And another note, most depictions of the Buddha(s) is a rather plump fat man.. and many (recognized)Bohdi satvas have come in all kinds of shapes, sizes, healths, and mentalities.. If all still being considered "enlightened"..
but since this isnt a thread about enlightenment..
As for the raw bud.. I was under the impression, that the THC had to be heated, or else it simply was not active through regular ingestion.. (does IV THC get you high?)
And consider this, Mushrooms themselves may be a viable additive to ones diet- supplimentary(small daily dose or doses), or simply entheogenically(fewere/farer between higher doses).. Partiucallry supplimentary.. Simply putting the mushrooms into ones salad or smoothie, as if it was just another ingredient of nutrition (I tend to think we are all lacking 4ho-DMT in our diets ;P)
Anway, historically speaking, people probably never really even smoked herb, unless it was placed on a fire, in a smoke hut/steam hut.. Otherwise, it'd almost always be eaten.. Though i would tend to think cooked..
And I also will note, that raw foods are indeed an excellent and powerful way to live and be healthy, but i'll note, that cooked foods cannot be completely excluded, because there are many plants/fungi that must be heated, before they even are edible, or release the nutrients within them that make them worth eating.. (again- mushroom flesh for example, cooked is far easier to digest..)
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You're telling me that I will be happier if I put down the beer, hamburgers, and cigarettes in exchange for eating like a squirrel?
This thread reads like a magical rainbow school bus getting high in Mister McGregor's garden.
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i'll note, that cooked foods cannot be completely excluded, because there are many plants/fungi that must be heated, before they even are edible, or release the nutrients within them that make them worth eating.. (again- mushroom flesh for example, cooked is far easier to digest..)
Just to add from a raw foodists perspective:
If I need to cook it to eat it, then I don't need to be eating it.
That's my personal approach with food and the way many raw foodists think.
I have never tried raw cannabis, but I would love to, not as a major food source though, because I feel like fruits will always be superior as an energy source for a raw vegan who is athletic, but more as a "building block" type of food, like most greens. I do have a gram of some headie bud that I put in a little jar of cold-pressed raw oil. It's been in the jar for over a year now, since I do not consume oils anymore. I've set it in the sun to 'cure' and one day down the road I might put it over a salad. I have no desire for this though, because I don't find oils very appealing.
Magic mushrooms I have a real appetite for. I will simply look at pics of grows on the Shroomery, and feel my mouth water, just like I would if I were looking at some tropical fruits, like sapodilla or mamey sapote, or a huge slice of watermelon. But this could be that my brain sends a message to my body that the magical mushroom is something that tastes good to the soul, based on prior experiences with it. I love that you can eat them raw.
One day I'd like the opportunity to consume some raw cannabis flowers and greens, but I wonder how it will taste to the palate, and how digestion would be.
Who knows, maybe I'll get to eat a marijuana salad some day.
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Re: Raw Cannabis [Re: MOTH]
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To Appleorange:
You are entitled to your opinion, but most people wont take your post seriously unless you give some evidence that cigs, hamburgers and beer are healthier than raw cannabis, raw mushrooms and raw fruit+vegetables. I respect anyones way of life, as long as they are happy, and as long as that happiness doesnt come to the detriment of others. I don't want to preach not eating meat, but is your lifestyle hurting anyone else besides yourself? If you can honestly answer no, then I am happy that you are happy.
To MOTH:
I think ive seen your posts on 30 BaD before :0 . I plan to move to an 80/10/10 lifestyle very soon, slowly removing most acid forming nuts and seeds from my diet, and eating larger amounts of fruits, with veggies being the side dish.
I highly suggest that if raw cannabis interests you, or atleast trying the taste on a salad dish, test the pH of your urine. If your urine is alkaline, your taste buds will experience the greatest taste Earth can offer, but being in an acidic state, the buds will taste hashy, spicey, peppery and very unpleasant. I finished growing a DJ Short strain (original creator of Blueberry) called F13. It expresses fruit, floral, and various herbaceous aromas/flavors, but I have chosen one phenotype that expresses a nectar like taste, similar to the taste of Rose water and honey, with undertones of citrus and berry. I am still slightly acidic, so the taste is initially peppery, but it develops into the most delicious flower/berry taste ive experienced outside of eating fresh fruits on a psychedelic. It seems that cannabis has so much depth to its flavor when in an alkaline state, and I believe this results from the multitude of terpenoids that develop in the trichome head.
I really wish people didnt think of this stuff as fantasy make believe, but todays society puts more emphasis on synthetics, living-unsustainable, and fast foods. I cant talk to standard American dieters about raw foods, without getting a look or vibe that I am crazy, or malnourished. I cant even delve any deeper into raw cannabis, mushrooms, aromatherapy, meditation, yoga, or any type of pseudoscience. Anyways, im glad you find it fascinating, as there is very good reason for it to be fascinating. This knowledge can only be kept from the public for so long .
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My lifestyle comes at the expense of many natural resources and livestock, but I'm worth it though.
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My lifestyle comes at the expense of many natural resources and livestock, but I'm worth it though.
If you dont mind me asking, what makes you think you are more important than a tree growing outside. From my perspective, that tree is providing me with shade, oxygen, fruit and friendly vibes.
I was indifferent when it came to eating animals before I went raw. When I transitioned to raw foods, my eyes were opened. I had a realization that it is not necessary to kill an animal for food, I can sustain and thrive from the Earth alone. I remain indifferent to other people eating animals, but now I realize how that meat gets to you, and what the animals are put through before death.
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Animals, plants, grass, fruit, nuts, are all the same thing. Any enlightened person will tell you this.
Besides, eating meat/fish is essential to good health.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fish_oil
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I really like this idea and where your going with it. I like you knowledge on the subject too. It all shows your dedicated and not just doing some shit. I will definitely follow this and see how it all goes down.
However there are some things I would like to add. One is that to my knowledge ingesting marijuana, seeds and all, you won't get "high" from the THC itself. THC is a substance that isn't water soluble. You simply won't be able to ingest it like you would the psychedelic substances in some mushrooms.
This doesn't mean something interesting won't happen though its hard to tell what effects you may feel. Or simply how nutritious marijuana may be for you.
Lastly I would like to saw that a raw diet is the way everything else does it. Plants don't cook. Animals don't cook their kill before they eat it. Humans only recently cooked food.
Evidence supports that a raw diet IS the best diet. Eskimos eat raw blubber from whales and don't gain weight from it. Cows are fed cooked grain when being fattened up. I do think though you should began eating raw organic meat. Start with a little and work up to a normal amount over a few weeks. Just because its no longer advised to eat raw meat doesn't mean you can't. My uncle can eat raw hamburger meat all day and never get sick.
I support you full heartedly, and encourage you to keep expanding your knowledge on this subject; sharing it here with us.
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Re: Raw Cannabis [Re: Gorguss]
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Thank you Goguss, Im very glad you find the thread interesting .
I, like nearly everyone, am still lost on the whole concept of absorbing the actual constituents in the trichome heads. I do know that anyone can benefit from eating raw cannabis (after transitioning their system to raw foods first, detox can be very difficult at first), but am really unsure of the chemical action of raw THC in the system. The only reference I can find on the net is Free Rob Cannabis' site (google raw cannabis). There are few people in the world that are raw foodists, and Im sure even fewer that are raw cannabis eaters. I like to think I am stepping where few men have stepped before .
This is my initial theory, but it could change over the next month:
I believe that as your body reaches closer to perfect health, your body returns to its natural alkaline state. If you eat cooked foods, you reside in an acidic state, this is where disease thrives. When you transition to raw foods, your body reaches a certain level of equilibrium, and you are pH neutral, or possibly slightly alkaline. The closer you are to an alkaline state, the more efficient your body is at digesting any living plant matter, the same goes for cannabis. So, the more raw cannabis you eat, the closer your body gets to being alkaline, or becomes more alkaline. This makes it easier for your body to absorb the plant matter, as well as, the trichomes that house the cannabinoids and terpenoids. The THC also becomes increasingly more efficient at passing the blood brain barrier, allowing the Delta 11 THC to bind to the CB1 [Cannabinoid 1] receptors in the brain, giving you a blissful, borderline ecstatic spiritual experience.
There are a few holes in the theory, but it is rather difficult to understand how the cannabinoids operate in the body, as so few people have done this, and there it literally no research on consuming raw cannabis flowers. One of my main motivations is simply looking at Free Rob Cannabis' pics on his website. His skin is so youthful from his food lifestyle, that he literally looks like he has baby face skin .
Maybe cannabis, like water and oxygen, is one of the most essential parts of being human, but our society has removed us so far from nature that we are blind in that aspect. Very many interesting philosophies behind raw cannabis, but there is also very interesting science that is hard to not find fascinating as well.
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I'd love to post a quote I heard by Alan Watts, though It's a story he was telling about a friend of his.. He asked his friend why he doesnt eat meat, when Plants are just as alive as an animal, with consciouseness, and possibly with their own unqiue sentience- so what's the difference? and his friend replies "plants don't scream as loude."
And, again on this subject, in a survival situation, particularly in winter (though there may be plenty of raw edibles all around in the other seasons, yet you may not know a single one).. if you don't eat Animals, you die..
I mean, of course most anyone (i hope) raw foodist or not, will eat meat if it calls for their very own survival.. Or if they came across a carcass, would cook whatever meat they may be able to scavange (or would you still eat it raw then?) .. anyway.. idono exactly my point, maybe sort of a question.. our tree-top-ape-like ancestors (which i believe did still eat insects..) may have ate mostly fruits, but we are far removed from them.. We have been scrounging for whatever we possibly could digest (meat, fruit, vegi, insect, even bark, or mineral deposits, fish, and other people, and any other animal bi-products).. I just wonder, in a biological sense, why did we evolve to eat cooked foods, and have been doing it since we basically discovered fire.. if it barely has any nutrition to it, basically erradicates any life-force/chi/etc from it.. and kills off any enzymes or living bacteria that is good for us and helps us to digest the very food we are eating? If it tastes so much better, raw food.. why did we even begin to cook, or even just keep on cooking food, till that's what hase become a world-wide norm..?
(ps, Ultimately the best possible food you can eat, is food that you have grown/raised, seen what goes in, what comes out, and where it comes from.. most anything can have so many negative attributes, from hormones, pesticides, shipping conditions, the very energy being emitted by the people who produce/handle the food, the lack of nutrients already in our over-farmed soils/under nutritious feedstock, and the genetic alterations that most of the seeds grown in NA have been modified by... oy.. the list goes on..- most food is not made to sustain life in NA.. it is made to sustain appitite, overtaste stimulation, and euphoric sensations... It really is a diabolical Scheme)
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Cooked food tastes better. I think thats why we eat it.
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But that isnt exactly accurate. The taste of things can be very subjective, and accordingly, I have been in a high alkaline state, and I did indeed crave raw fruits(mostly) and vegetables.. Cooked food seemed rather bland to me.. But the full explosive juices from a ripe peach, or apple.. omg.. it was soo good.. yet.. in my current state.. a mcdouble tastes pretty damn good too.. >.>
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Epic thread. You have obviously done a lot of homework on this subject and i will be following the results (perhaps experimenting myself).
on the body ph thing, it would make sense that at a more alkaline state things are going to be integrated into the body differently.
cant wait to hear back about the 30 day cannabivore diet 
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I just wonder, in a biological sense, why did we evolve to eat cooked foods, and have been doing it since we basically discovered fire.. if it barely has any nutrition to it, basically erradicates any life-force/chi/etc from it.. and kills off any enzymes or living bacteria that is good for us and helps us to digest the very food we are eating? If it tastes so much better, raw food.. why did we even begin to cook, or even just keep on cooking food, till that's what hase become a world-wide norm..?
I do love your point. We have evolved over a short period of time to more efficiently digest cooked foods. Our bodies have developed means to process the bad stuff, which is found in cooked meat, pasteruized dairy, cooked vegetables, etc. But, this span of evolution is also very small compared to the overall evolution of the homosapian. It is believed that fire was not utilized in an efficient manner until 7000BC, where we then had regular fires going all the time, rather than just the lightning flashes. So assuming we werent regularly cooking out food until about 9000 years ago, in the span of evolution 9000 years is but a blip on the overall graph. We have been eating raw foods way longer than we have cooked.
To go back to appleorange's comment. I cannot deny that cooked food taste very good, but there is also an underlying reason that cooked food taste good. I still beg to differ that cooked taste better than fresh fruits and vegetables, as that is not the case for me anymore. When you cook a food, given its meat, bread, cereal, candy, dairy etc, you convert a large portion of that food into a carbohydrate, developing various sugars along the way. One of these sugars is VERY well known in todays society, and most processed items have this in the food, it is sucrose, or white sugar. Sucrose is preavlent in nearly all processed foods, and sucrose is one of the most addictive substances on Earth. When you first go raw, you will literally be craving cooked foods as if it were a drug. When you first transition to raw, you smell cooked foods and it has an intoxicating scent, similar to marijuana. Have you ever wondered why cooked food has all of these enticing aromas, and fresh fruits and vegetables have practically no aroma? Your body experiences a limbic response from smelling the cooked food, the same way you have a limbic response when you smell fresh brewed coffee, or chocolate cake, or marijuana. Sine your body realizes it receives a temporary pleasure from that substance, whether its caffiene from coffee, or sucrose from chocolate cake, your mind will crave that item after smelling it. Whether you know it or not, you are addicted to the sucrose in cooked foods, and as a result, your body, mind and spirit suffer. Give a ton of white sugar to a kid, and watch them over the next 10 minutes. They will go on a sugar high, and then crash and feel completely miserable afterwords. They will have a loss of energy, a slow mind, emotional less stable then before they ate the sugar, and less connected to their spirit.
I really do believe the alkalinity of the blood has everything to do with the integration of the cannabinoids and terpenoids into the body. Simply being alkaline will result in better tasting buds (a complete reversal from spicey to sweet).
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Cooked food tastes better. I think thats why we eat it.
Blah, not to me. Not after juice fasting and water fasting and then taste testing varieties of cooked food and raw foods. This was before I committed to 100% raw over 2 yrs ago and a big reason why I made the shift. What I found out was that cooked food was like tasteless slop, or cardboard, and digested horribly, and raw foods tasted vivid, flavorful and full of vitality and digested like a dream. My body was very clear about what it wanted.
Everyone s in a different place with food, but if cooked food tastes so good, why all the condiments and salt that go into it? Seems like all the condiments and salt just go into cooked food to cover up the fact that cooked food in itself doesn't have much flavor.
Not compared to raw foods, in my experience. I used salt for awhile to transition to raw but when I cut that out, and all other condiments, I finally began tasted the true flavors of food. It's a great feeling to be able to truly enjoy food as is and to be satisfied with it. Nothing like eating a piece of celery or leafy greens and feeling like you're getting punched in the face with saltiness. Tomatoes are so incredibly savory, cauliflower is spicy. Every banana even from the same bunch has its own unique signature flavor. The same with apples and mango's, every fruit. It's truly amazing to experience the flavor's pop in raw food after you clean your tastebuds.
I realize this way of eating isn't for everyone but I wanted to share my experience and perspective on tastes and food.
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Re: Raw Cannabis [Re: MOTH]
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For the people who say cooked food is bland, there's about 6 billion people who are willing to disagree with you.
Did you all know that unripened fruit is more nutritious for you? Perhaps you should put down all those yellow ripe bananas and begin eating bland green ones.
How many of you are going to start doing that?
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Actually 1 billion people will go starving tonight, and there is no way you can honestly say every 6 billion people on Earth eat cooked.
Please post a reference to the 6 billion people eating cooked foods and I will agree with you.
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For the people who say cooked food is bland, there's about 6 billion people who are willing to disagree with you.
Did you all know that unripened fruit is more nutritious for you? Perhaps you should put down all those yellow ripe bananas and begin eating bland green ones.
How many of you are going to start doing that?
Actually ripened bananas, or the spotted bananas are the easiest to digest, and have the most naturally occurring sugars. Unripe bananas are very bad for digestion, and can cause constipation issues if you do not let the fruit ripen.
The whole essence of ripening fruit is a universal law. If you smoke cannabis you are smoking a ripened fruit. Try smoking an unripe cannabis fruit, you will get a headache, paranoia and anxiety.
Please post a reference to your belief that unripe bananas are better for you.
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For the people who say cooked food is bland, there's about 6 billion people who are willing to disagree with you.
Did you all know that unripened fruit is more nutritious for you? Perhaps you should put down all those yellow ripe bananas and begin eating bland green ones.
How many of you are going to start doing that?
Cooked food on its own has no flavor, that's why people need to use condiments and salt to flavor it.
Of course if you enjoy it, then that's fine, but it's not for me. I can only speak in the context of myself, of course.
Unripened fruit can cause a lot of issues with my body, that's why I make sure my fruit is properly ripe, plus it tastes better too. I eat my bananas spotty and sugary. Yummm!
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Re: Raw Cannabis [Re: MOTH]
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Cooked tomatoes have way more flavour than raw ones, imo
Or a least a much sweeter nicer flavour, same goes for carrots
Heated tomatoes also contain more lycopene than raw ones & heated carrots contain more beta carotene (as long as the heat isn't too high), brocoli's easier to eat after being lightly steamed aswell.
I'd say they are the three foods i much prefer cooked over raw, everything else i eat, (apart from fish & rice) i eat raw... which is only a few veg like courgettes, bell peppers, bean sprouts & various fruits
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Re: Raw Cannabis [Re: MOTH]
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"New studies have again confirmed that watermelon rind is a great source of Vitamin C, Vitamin B6, Vitamin A, Magnesium, and Potassium. The great thing about all of these nutrients, is that they can be consumed in as little as a fifty calorie serving of fresh rind. As we mentioned in other areas of our website, you can up the level of vitamins and minerals in your watermelon by simply selecting the yellow flesh variety. The golden rule can be taken quite literally in this case, as you should aim to purchase the most golden or yellow watermelon you can find. The more yellow, the more nutritious. It is however important not to confuse a yellow watermelon with a rotten or unripe fruit. If you have any questions about the variety at your local supermarket, then be sure to ask a clerk before purchasing it."
http://www.watermelonrind.com/watermelon-rind-nutrition-and-pregnancy.html
Potassium is needed for root development, helps regulate water and other nutrients, mobilizes sugars, helps in starch accumulation, and works with enzymes in photosynthesis. Potassium is not needed once ripening begins; and iron loss has been reported with ripening as well.
An unripe papaya has more potassium than a ripe papaya for example.
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Different strokes for different folks, I have always enjoyed the taste of raw foods over cooked ones.
I also believe there are hundreds of nutrients that scientists have not yet discovered as valuable to the human body that is present in our foods. For every nutrient that is easier assimilated by cooking, how many nutrients are damaged by the heat of cooking?
I like my food fresh because it makes the most sense for me personally in consuming it. The fresher the food, the fresher I feel.
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That is a very interesting website Apple, I had no idea about the rind of certain fruits.
Ive always known certain fruits you can eat whole, without peeling, like apples or pears, but did not know watermelon could be in that class of fruits. I will have to look into this deeper. Thank you for the link
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"New studies have again confirmed that watermelon rind is a great source of Vitamin C, Vitamin B6, Vitamin A, Magnesium, and Potassium. The great thing about all of these nutrients, is that they can be consumed in as little as a fifty calorie serving of fresh rind. As we mentioned in other areas of our website, you can up the level of vitamins and minerals in your watermelon by simply selecting the yellow flesh variety. The golden rule can be taken quite literally in this case, as you should aim to purchase the most golden or yellow watermelon you can find. The more yellow, the more nutritious. It is however important not to confuse a yellow watermelon with a rotten or unripe fruit. If you have any questions about the variety at your local supermarket, then be sure to ask a clerk before purchasing it."
http://www.watermelonrind.com/watermelon-rind-nutrition-and-pregnancy.html
Potassium is needed for root development, helps regulate water and other nutrients, mobilizes sugars, helps in starch accumulation, and works with enzymes in photosynthesis. Potassium is not needed once ripening begins; and iron loss has been reported with ripening as well.
An unripe papaya has more potassium than a ripe papaya for example.
I'm not sure what relevance this information has for me? Unripe fruit is destructive to teeth and digestion when eaten, it makes more sense to eat ripe fruit.
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Re: Raw Cannabis [Re: MOTH]
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Id agree to an extent, everything i eat in the morning & afternoon is mainly raw fruit & smoothies with grass powders, cucumber etc... it just makes my body feel fresh like you say, but part of me still enjoys having a nice warm rice meal in the cold evenings, it def slows me down but its nice in the evening to slow down a bit, i always try & keep a few of the veg i throw in raw aswell
At the moment i love mangoes, can't get enough of them!
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Even if you decide to keep up this raw fruit thing, at least start eating fish or taking Omega 3 supplements.
85% of the worlds population is deficient in Omega 3. If you're a woman, the risks you may face with a deficiency are even more concerning.
http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art43609.asp
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Id agree to an extent, everything i eat in the morning & afternoon is mainly raw fruit & smoothies with grass powders, cucumber etc... it just makes my body feel fresh like you say, but part of me still enjoys having a nice warm rice meal in the cold evenings, it def slows me down but its nice in the evening to slow down a bit, i always try & keep a few of the veg i throw in raw aswell
At the moment i love mangoes, can't get enough of them!
//me verrrry jealous of your mangoes!! 
I can understand the needing to slow down before bedtime.
Recently I've been eating more greens again in the evening, really mellows me out. I love romaine, very tender and juicy-sweet.
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Unripe fruit has less sugar and carbs, it would be better for your teeth.
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I don't buy into suppliments, naturally occuring organic foods have complimentary nutrients that aid absorbtion of the other nutrients
An omega 3 capsule could have loads of omega 3, but id bet that the proteins & other stuff in fish help the absorbtion & utilization of the omega 3's
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Re: Raw Cannabis [Re: MOTH]
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//me verrrry jealous of your mangoes!!
Mangoe, cacao powder, purple grape juice & banana blended is amazing!
Especially if you like cannabis, cacao & mangoes have cannabinoids
hmm im gonna make a thread about this...
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Even if you decide to keep up this raw fruit thing, at least start eating fish or taking Omega 3 supplements.
85% of the worlds population is deficient in Omega 3. If you're a woman, the risks you may face with a deficiency are even more concerning.
http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art43609.asp
It's true, you have need to be aware of Omega 3's.
Luckily 2 heads of romaine lettuce have 129 % of my daily recommended target for Omega 3.
anyone who wants to log their micronutrients, can do so here:
http://spaz.ca/cronometer/
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Moth,
Unripe fruit has less sugar and carbs, it would be better for your teeth.
I want the fruit sugar and the carbs. I eat a low-fat diet and that's where I get my fuel. My teeth ache after unripe fruit that's a sign from my body that I take seriously. My teeth are great when the fruit is properly ripe. No pain, white, strong and gleaming.
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I don't buy into suppliments, naturally occuring organic foods have complimentary nutrients that aid absorbtion of the other nutrients
An omega 3 capsule could have loads of omega 3, but id bet that the proteins & other stuff in fish help the absorbtion & utilization of the omega 3's
In that case, start huntin you sum whale!
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To get back onto the topic of this thread,
Im not sure if you read my original posts or not apple, but I went somewhat in depth with the various nutrients of the various parts of the cannabis plant. The hemp seed is only a single part of the plant, and it already corrects the omega-3 deficiency you mentioned.
The seed of the Cannabis plant is quite possibly the most nutritionally balanced food source within the plant kingdom. Cannabis seeds contain a near perfect balance of the Omega 6 (linoleic acid) and Omega 3 (alpha-linolenic acid) Essential Fatty Acids. These cannot be synthesized by the body and must be present in our diet. EFAs form the building blocks of cells and our immune system. A diet lacking in EFAs can result in a reduced immune system, which can lead to illness. Most people’s diet in the west is seriously lacking in EFAs. 30 % of the Cannabis seed is fat. 20% Of the Fat within the seed is unsaturated Alpha - Linolenic Acid (LNA -Omega 3) and 60% is unsaturated Linoleic Acid (LA - Omega 6). A perfect balance for humans.
Cannabis seeds also contain gamma-linolenic acid, a very rare oil essential for human development. GLA helps reduce cholesterol levels. The body converts LA into GLA by means of an enzyme, to protect itself from arthritis, premenstrual syndrome, and other conditions.
Cannabis seeds are an excellent source of easily digestible protein. The main reason for its digestibility is the high ratio (65% of total protein) of Edistiri. Edistin is a sturdy protein that is pure and highly stable. Edistin is so complete and nutritious that studies done in the early 1900s demonstrated that it could serve as the sole source of protein in the diet of animals.
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Re: Raw Cannabis [Re: MOTH]
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If i eat a big handful off hemp seeds i get very very bad trapped gas
I love the taste but my stomach just rejects any cannabis plant material, i can only consume extracts not plant matter 
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If i eat a big handful off hemp seeds i get very very bad trapped gas
I love the taste but my stomach just rejects any cannabis plant material, i can only consume extracts not plant matter
Im amazed that roboto can eat the bud with no stomach issues, maybe its just me
Thanks for sharing your experience, I haven't yet had a chance to 'eat raw cannabis' so I'm just fantasizing and visualizing what it will be like. I've never eaten hemp seeds.
Did you get nauseous/crampy/constipated?
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I abolustely love hemp seed, quite possibly the creamiest substance ive tasted on this green Earth . I am slowly developing a taste for raw cannabis buds as well, but it takes time, especially getting back to my original alkaline state.
If you ever get a chance (if you know a grower or live somewhere with liberal laws) prepare a fresh marijuana salad. You can use powdered leaves, and they still have all of the nutrients in tact, but fresh is where the taste is at . The taste of fresh hemp leaves is very similar to its flowers, in the aspect that it also has the spicey (acidic) vs sweet (alkaline) taste. Im sure you are very alkaline MOTH, so the taste of fresh hemp leaves would be divine .
I had a salad last night that was quite an experience:
Baby Spinach Leaves
Fresh Cannabis Leaves (only green, organic, and unflushed)
Powered Dried Flowers from my F13 strain, very berry like taste
Powdered Sprouted Hemp Nut
Tomatoes
Fresh Squeezed Key Lime
Portobello Mushrooms marinated in organic nama shoyu
The salad of the gods . Initially I took my first bite and wow was it spicey, so I let the taste settle in my mouth, and then continued eating. As I continued eating the enzymes and digestive juices in my mouth chemically altered the taste to an insanely sweet, berry taste. The best way I can describe the berry taste is almost alien, I had never tried any type of fruit remotely close to this taste, yet I found it very familiar and amazing.
I will continue to incorporate more cannabis parts into my already 100% raw diet.
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Re: Raw Cannabis [Re: MOTH]
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Just trapped wind, doing HUGE burps to releive it, each burp was like an orgasm, i'd never burped like that in my life or even thought it possible, but the inbetween part when the wind is trapped, its so horrible!
Even when i made hash cakes with too much hash i got it, plus with the hemp seeds & hemp protein, it seems if i put any of the cannabis plant material in my stomach it just doesn't like it at all
For some reason i found eating beans, bread, pasta or rice made it completely go away
This was back when i was tryna to be alkaline so i was on no bread rice or pasta, i remember the beans settled my stomach almost everytime, maybe it was just my system being shocked after years of eating pasta everyday & hardly any veg, then this super strong hep stuff just made my system go nuts
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Re: Raw Cannabis [Re: MOTH]
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roboto,
Hemp only has the omega fatty acid ALA. Our bodies convert ALA into EPA.
Only 8% of ALA even becomes converted into EPA in our bodies.
EPA & DHA are already concentrated in fish. They contain the highest concentration of these fatty acids compared to any other source.
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To address the gas issue with raw hemp nuts (deshelled, sprouted), remember that it is slightly acid forming, so if you dont usually eat nuts or seeds it can be a bit tough on the stomach. The best thing you can do is eat some alkaline forming food, possibly a fresh green along side the hemp nuts.
Also remember that if the hemp nut is not sprouted or presoaked, it can also be rather difficult to digest.
I have yet to produce my own seeds, but over the summer I plan to keep all outdoor males and females in the same location, consuming both the male and female flower parts. If you like the taste of bee pollen, you will have to try hemp pollen. It differs from strain to strain im sure, but it is generally very sweet. I have had some sour bee pollen before that was unappealing, but it may have been exposed to heat a bit so IDK. The most interesting plant on Earth imo
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To address the gas issue with raw hemp nuts (deshelled, sprouted), remember that it is slightly acid forming, so if you dont usually eat nuts or seeds it can be a bit tough on the stomach. The best thing you can do is eat some alkaline forming food, possibly a fresh green along side the hemp nuts.
Also remember that if the hemp nut is not sprouted or presoaked, it can also be rather difficult to digest.
I have yet to produce my own seeds, but over the summer I plan to keep all outdoor males and females in the same location, consuming both the male and female flower parts. If you like the taste of bee pollen, you will have to try hemp pollen. It differs from strain to strain im sure, but it is generally very sweet. I have had some sour bee pollen before that was unappealing, but it may have been exposed to heat a bit so IDK.
If anything when i was drinking hemp protein it was with water, cucumber & barley grass so very very alkaline, that was when the gas was worse!
If i drank it with fruit juices it would be a bit less gas producing, i think my system was just shocked by this super powerful food, in my opinion cannabis is good in moderation, including the seeds, its a very very powerful plant all round.
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Beautiful plant Chronic . No cannabis plant is ugly imo, quite possibly the most beautiful plant on Earth. Just the simple symmetry and math found in the plant is remarkable. I love the fact that the leaves develop using only primary numbers 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11 (given you arent revegging the plant, which can result in odd numbered leaves).
I have become obsessed with DJ SHorts genetics. He is quite possibly the only breeder that has awakened somewhat, or transcended the normal grounds for breeding. He breeds using only pure, landrace genetics that have not been hybridized, commercialized, or tainted. He breeds for one thing: the Final Product. That includes the high, aroma and taste.
F13 is quite possibly the closest breeder strain that replicates the Original Highland Oaxacan Gold, the most uplifting strain in existence imo. The original H.O.G. produced a 7-8 hour long high, that creeps up an hour after smoking, and continues to come in blissful waves. I can only imagine what eating it would be like.
Here is my F13, mostly HOG genetics, bred with a pure landrace indica to lower the flower time:
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Sweeet, love the purple!
If you were in the UK id ask if you could send me some seeds, im all about purity & the genes your describing there, pure landrace etc...sounds like what im after
The best stuff i ever smoked was dark green with purple bits, it looked smelt & tasted so pure & the high was just right, a light creeper that doesn't KO, id love to get seeds like that
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Decided to switch it up a bit and put a nice 3 grams on top of my salad this morning. Its been the 3 days since I smoked so the past couple of days I have been feeling slight withdrawal symptoms, but this morning I feel near baseline ,and beginning to feel RAW again !
Tomatoes, Portobello Shrooms with nama shoyu, fresh squeezed lime, baby spinach and of course the 3 grams of finely grown F13 cannabis . I will be taking a bit of Fo-Ti along side the salad as well, to boost the anti-oxidant effects of the raw cannabis.
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That bud does look delicious, let me know how your stomach handles it, if you get any gas or anything
I also wonder when your body heats it, ifits gonna get you high or just relax your system? Kinda like how THC oil doesnt get you too high but is the perfect medicine
I know when i ate a block of hash i was FUCKED, but that had already been heated previously when it was pressed most likely
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Been a couple hours since I ate the salad. I feel a very strong sense of well being, a positive energy throughout my body. I really cant tell if its just a raw high, or the raw cannabis, but I feel extremely sharp and lucid, and definitely feel more intune with those around me. My heart is more open I believe.
I just got back from class and connected very easily with my group members, and it seemed they fed off the positive energy as we were all laughing together .
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I ate a couple of the sticky pistils yesterday, just chillin with her & i picked a bit of human hair stuck to the top of one of the buds and a couple pistils came off and my instinct was to munch them, they tasted great & instantly felt it, not stoned, but a positive energy rush for sure.
I really just wanted to bite off one of the whole flowers & chow down, im sure i will one day lol
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I ate a couple of the sticky pistils yesterday, just chillin with her & i picked a bit of human hair stuck to the top of one of the buds and a couple pistils came off and my instinct was to munch them, they tasted great & instantly felt it, not stoned, but a positive energy rush for sure.
Cool, thanks for sharing! "Positive energy rush" is how I imagine eating raw cannabis would be like.
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How long did it take to flower that F13?
I must say the final flowers in that salad look amazing!
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F13 takes an average of 60 days to flower, and it has a pure landrace sativa high. It is simply amazing. To take a pure landrace Highland Oaxacan Gold, which has a 120 day flower time, and genetically breed it down to 60 days, while retaining the original high, is very difficult. It took DJ many years to accomplish this and get to the point in his breeding he is at today.
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Ive just been reading up onit, think im gonna go for this strain next time.
The flowers in your salad look like what im after...
Either that or im gonna do the 'Buddha Haze' it was crossed with a mangarosa originating from Brazil, really spiritual strain supposedly
Do you dry/cure the flowers before eating them?
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I believe there are more spiritual strains of cannabis than others, Highland Oaxacan Gold being the most spiritual IMO.
I dried those buds and cured them for 2 weeks before chomping on them, but you can eat fresh marijuana buds as well. I believe the curing process brings out the flavor, but it is not essential for receiving the health benefits from the actual plant matter and cannabinoids themselves. People that smoke cannabis benefit from curing, as curing essentially unlocks more active constituents that the body can use in the smoke, or in the case of cooked edibles, more active constituents in the fat.
BUT! you always want your fruit to be ripe . Cannabis is the same as any other fruit in this aspect. You wouldnt want to eat a green banana, as they are harder to digest, giving you constipation. Plus green bananas are just tasteless and stiff, in comparison to a ripe banana. People really dont need a microscrope to tell if a cannabis fruit is ripe. If you are in tune with your plants, and you have good eyes, you can see when a cannabis fruit is ripe. It is different with each strain, but for my f13 shown in the picture, that phenotype finishes in 60 days, where all the hairs are orange, it has a soft amber glow about it (this is in relation to the number of milky trichs and amber trichs, but you want a balance of both THC and CBD), and it smells right. Alot of people are out of tune, thus they require a pocket microscope to tell when the trichomes are done, but you can do without .
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Yeah ive noticed that, if you just really look you dont need a microscope, but im a first time grower so i wanna be sure... at 6 weeks i was already mostly cloudy & a few ambers.
I know during curing the sugars get converted to flavour compounds, so i reckon a bit of curings is always a good idea, plus like you say the cbd/thc ratio changes over time...
Would you say its smokeable after 2 weeks curing aswell?
I was expecting a month at least to have really tasty bud?
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well you can eat it when balance has reached teh trichomes, but to smoke it, you want atleast a months cure . This will unlock all of the THC from THCA, along with all of the other cannabinoids. CBC is the precursor to CBD, and THCA is the precursor to THC. Each cannabinoids has its immature counterpart, so to speak, so curing it will unlock them for smoking or cooking with. Eating it raw essentially does this for us
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Your really onto something here, i ate a few calyxes last night, they tasted so pure & great, like a vegetable but i cant put my finger onit, sprouted beans would be the closest i think, the freshness & livliness of it
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The whole point in eating green, chlorophyll rich vegetables is that they help rebuild the body, removing toxins, and building your body back to its original state. You want electron rich plants, wheatgrass being very high in electron rich chlorophyll. Cannabis is the most electron rich plant on Earth. Its not even hard to imagine. Just think about the trichome itself, its very nature. It is a clear little sphere, that is SUPER efficient at absorbing all spectrums of lighting from the sun. In essence the trichomes are light energy collectors, that energize your mind, body and spirit.
Just look at cannabis. If you can sense its aura, you see it is very vibrant. Cannabis simply more vibrant and green than alot of other vegetables, almost like a glowing green, simply beautiful.
It is not wonder why the taste is so FRESH and alive. The more you eat the cannabis, the better your palate is for the terpenoids, which give each strain its unique and distinct flavor. I have been enjoying the fruity flavor of my F13, they make my mouth water now and the spiceyness is slowly going away. I now fully believe cannabis was meant to be the fruit of life, described in the bible, and many other religions. In essence, if we lived in a pollution free, oxygen rich environment, and ate only cannabis, we could live forever. Today, we live in about 12-19% oxygen, depending on your altitude. Scientists believe that the Earth Originally had 55% oxygen. We now live in an abundance of pollution, and many other unnatural things are absorbed into our bodies, that our body has to take energy to detox from.
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well you can eat it when balance has reached teh trichomes, but to smoke it, you want atleast a months cure . This will unlock all of the THC from THCA, along with all of the other cannabinoids. CBC is the precursor to CBD, and THCA is the precursor to THC. Each cannabinoids has its immature counterpart, so to speak, so curing it will unlock them for smoking or cooking with. Eating it raw essentially does this for us
Eating it raw keeps Cannabis mostly INactive..
You may feel a little "uplift" but thats just because you have VERY little active THC than if you were to get it soluble in fat..
You have to eat ridiculous amounts of Cannabis to get the same effect.. your body doesn't like to process that shit either.
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Re: Raw Cannabis [Re: feifen]
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well you can eat it when balance has reached teh trichomes, but to smoke it, you want atleast a months cure . This will unlock all of the THC from THCA, along with all of the other cannabinoids. CBC is the precursor to CBD, and THCA is the precursor to THC. Each cannabinoids has its immature counterpart, so to speak, so curing it will unlock them for smoking or cooking with. Eating it raw essentially does this for us
Eating it raw keeps Cannabis mostly INactive..
You may feel a little "uplift" but thats just because you have VERY little active THC than if you were to get it soluble in fat..
You have to eat ridiculous amounts of Cannabis to get the same effect.. your body doesn't like to process that shit either.
This whole thread is ridiculous
Read the whole thread, and become enlightened. You think smoking cannabis is healthier than eating it raw, I beg to differ ,and I have presented factual information that supports my conclusion. So, before you make blind assumptions about the nature of cannabis, read the thread .
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Sounds like you don't know shit either because I did read the thread.
Who said anything about smoking? Smoking ANYTHING isn't good for you. Cannabis just isn't orally active enough.
Vaporized or ingesting Cannabis orally via being soluble in fat. That is IT. Your body chemistry is NOT going to change this fact.
Stop with the hippie bullshit. What your doing is highly inefficient and is honestly retarded, but go ahead and keep eating your green.
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Sounds like you don't know shit either because I did read the thread.
Who said anything about smoking? Smoking ANYTHING isn't good for you. Cannabis just isn't orally active enough.
Vaporized or ingesting Cannabis orally via being soluble in fat. That is IT. Your body chemistry is NOT going to change this fact.
Stop with the hippie bullshit. What your doing is highly inefficient and is honestly retarded, but go ahead and keep eating your green.
It does not make me feel good when you say those things. We all have the right to believe what we want. I am not blindly believing in eating raw cannabis though, I have presented factual information and I am speaking from experience. I FEEL amazing from eating raw foods. I feel amazing from running and producing endorphins. I feel amazing from meditation/yoga. I feel amazing when I consume cannabis in its natural state. I believe the absorption of raw cannabis becomes highly efficient when you reside in an alkaline state. When you eat cooked, processed, chemically treated and unnatural foods, your body resides in an acidic state, which is when disease of the mind, body and spirit thrive.
It is your opinion when you say that my method is inefficient and wasteful. I have an abundance of cannabis. I do not buy my cannabis, like most people, I grow it for myself. It is only wasteful because society has driven us to believe that it is wasteful, because there isnt an abundance of cannabis in the markets, due to its illegality.
We all have the right to believe what we want . I hope you understand.
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Eating raw cannabis is highly inefficient and is VERY wasteful if your looking to get "feel good" effects from Cannabis. If your looking for antioxidant effects or other reasons there are WAY better fruits and raw food out there to provide benefits
This isn't opinion dude, this is fact. You can believe whatever you want
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Your motivation in studying this is commendable. I'm eager to read of future posts regarding the effects of adding raw cannabis to your diet.
I have been interested in a raw food diet, but being poor makes Ramen Noodles the staple of my dinner table. In due time perhaps I'll win the lottery and start a commune.
Until then, I'll be keeping an eye on this thread. Good luck!
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Re: Raw Cannabis [Re: feifen]
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well you can eat it when balance has reached teh trichomes, but to smoke it, you want atleast a months cure . This will unlock all of the THC from THCA, along with all of the other cannabinoids. CBC is the precursor to CBD, and THCA is the precursor to THC. Each cannabinoids has its immature counterpart, so to speak, so curing it will unlock them for smoking or cooking with. Eating it raw essentially does this for us
Eating it raw keeps Cannabis mostly INactive..
You may feel a little "uplift" but thats just because you have VERY little active THC than if you were to get it soluble in fat..
You have to eat ridiculous amounts of Cannabis to get the same effect..
To get the same effect as what? Getting stoned?
This thread isn't about getting stoned as far as i can see
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This thread is only about raw cannabis, but it has spawned a couple of posts regarding raw foods and such.
This thread is most definitely not about getting high off smoking weed, or getting stoned. I feel this thread is about a higher purpose than simply smoking cannabis. You can continue smoking your cannabis, if it makes you feel good. I will continue eating my raw foods and raw cannabis, as I have experienced a higher high from doing so, than simply smoking cannabis, which alters the chemistry that nature set into place.
Everyone in this world has a choice. A choice to do good, or do evil, to fall into depression, or fall into a state of bliss. I want to do good and fall into a state of bliss, a more sustainable bliss than simply smoking non-stop all the time. This bliss state that I have thus achieved is very similar to smoking cannabis, but remove all of the negative effects of smoking such as loss of energy, dull mind, dull spirit, and you have the bliss state I am in.
As I currently type this, I am experiencing a blissful state, music is better, raw foods taste better, my body feels amazingly euphoric and energetic. I recently got back from running 5 miles, and meditated for 30 minutes afterwards. I will most likely remain in this bliss state for several hours, where I will return to a baseline that is absent of anxiety, depression, anger, hate, jeoulousy, or any of the such.
So, you have a choice. You can choose to reach for a higher bliss goal in life, or you can shoot heroin, SMOKE cannabis (rather than eating it in its natural state), do ecstasy, or any other synthetic, or altered substance. I choose to reach for that higher bliss state, that I believe is more sustainable.
I could go on a tangent and explain how I can achieve an ecstatic state through raw foods, raw cannabis and free-dancing, but that is for another thread.
Ecstasy, bliss, serenity, peace are all sustainable states of mind, if you simply give up your temporary pleasures in life, and set out on a path of bliss.
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This is where we disagree, bliss is not a sustainable state, its the fundamental basis of existence
Everything thats sustainable, is only temporarily sustainable, it eventually has an ending... so can not really be true permanent bliss.
Perfection is never attained through any form, its the very foundation of form itself
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Re: Raw Cannabis [Re: feifen]
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If your looking for antioxidant effects or other reasons there are WAY better fruits and raw food out there to provide benefits
You made a blind assumption I believe. Unless I am wrong, I am sure that raw cacao and cannabis are the two most rich sources of anti-oxidants on Earth. Eating a handful of raw cacao nibs, or a few buds of raw cannabis, is giving your body a more dense source of anti-oxidants. One handful of raw cannabis buds is equal to a bucket of blueberries.
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This is where we disagree, bliss is not a sustainable state, its the fundamental basis of existence
Everything thats sustainable, is only temporarily sustainable, it eventually has an ending...
Perfection is never attained through any form, its the very foundation of form itself
I agree with you on this Chronic. I believe that you could never achieve a completely sustainable bliss state, but you can get pretty darn close. I dont mind not being in bliss 24/7, but I do enjoy the few hours each day where I am in a bliss state .
This life is all about temporary, and it could lead to another temporary life, who knows, but I feel I am more comfortable in life going about my own path, than taking up a heroin, nicotine, food addiction .
But yea, humans could never be perfect in that sense, but it doesnt stop buddhists from going on the path of enlightenment.
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Re: Raw Cannabis [Re: feifen]
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Eating raw cannabis is highly inefficient and is VERY wasteful if your looking to get "feel good" effects from Cannabis. If your looking for antioxidant effects or other reasons there are WAY better fruits and raw food out there to provide benefits
This isn't opinion dude, this is fact. You can believe whatever you want
But just because I believe a box of cereal is the almighty god don't make it true. Believe what you want
whether there is truth to this raw cannbis theory or not, you sir have completely missed the point of the thread and should really work on your reading comprehension skills. it's rather embarrassing
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dude, how tall did that F13 grow?
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My box is a 2x2x2 foot box, with 18 inches of vertical room to work with. I use Low Stress Training techniques to keep them short, dense and wide. My plants are always about a foot in height, unless they are outdoor plants.
I believe I can zero my box in and produce about 4 ounces per cycle, but I am slowly losing interest in indoor grows, as they dont produce every spectrum of lighting the Sun produces. I do enjoy being able to grow indoors though.
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http://antoine.frostburg.edu/chem/senese/101/features/anandamide.shtml
I found a very interesting article talking about anandamide, the bliss chemical located in the body. This is our bodies natural THC, and I am still researching to see how anandamide, THC, 2-AG and all the other cannabinoids affect the body.
Here is my latest thought after pondering for a while:
When we smoke cannabis, or heat it above 115F degrees, we chemical alter the cannabis flowers. This is also true of all fruits, vegetables, nuts, seeds, beans etc. Not only do you destroy the valuable enzymes in the flower bract, which definitely assists in the digestion of the raw cannabis, you are chemical altering the THC molecule into a completely different compound.
We all know that when you smoke cannabis, you develop a tolerance as the CB1 and CB2 receptors in the brain and body are deactivated. The reason I now believe we develop a tolerance to smoked cannabis, or cooked cannabis edibles, is we lack the certain enzymes that help deactivate THC on itself. In essence, when you smoke cannabis, the THC binds to the cannabinoid receptors, and over time, since the body lacks the proper enzyme to deactivate the THC molecule, the cannabinoid receptor itself goes inactive. This means you have to smoke more to achieve the same effect, and the more you smoke, the more receptors in the brain and body become deactive. Since you are essentially deactivating our bodies bliss receptors, you will feel less blissful over a long period of time. We like to think cannabis doesnt cause withdrawal symptoms, but long term use of smoking cannabis will result in fewer Cannabinoid receptors, and thus, our natural bliss chemical Anandamide, is less effective.
When you eat raw cannabis, and your body resides in an alkaline state, your body is very efficient at absorbing the raw cannabis. YOu are consuming the necessary enzymes that help deactivate the THC molecule, instead of our body deactivating the CB1 CB2 receptors. You essentially never develop a tolerance to raw cannabis.
The quote from the article led to my theory. When you consume raw cannabis in its natural state, you are consuming the enzymes in tact.:
"The keys must be removed again from the lock somehow, or the nerve cell will be permanently prevented from firing. Certain enzymes are produced that remove (by degrading and destroying) the keys after a certain amount of time, so that the nerve cell can go back to work."
So in essence, you are consuming the most whole-some food on Earth. This results in perfect health, but it is also coupled the cannabinoids. Since you are consuming the cannabis raw, and it still contains the valuable enzymes that assist in digestion and deactivating the THC molecule, you never hinder any receptors in your brain or body. You simply get the bliss feeling everytime you consume cannabis raw, and you are feeding your mind, body and spirit.
Please read the anandamide article before commenting, and hopefully my theory makes sense.
http://antoine.frostburg.edu/chem/senese/101/features/anandamide.shtml
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My box is a 2x2x2 foot box, with 18 inches of vertical room to work with. I use Low Stress Training techniques to keep them short, dense and wide. My plants are always about a foot in height, unless they are outdoor plants.
I believe I can zero my box in and produce about 4 ounces per cycle, but I am slowly losing interest in indoor grows, as they dont produce every spectrum of lighting the Sun produces. I do enjoy being able to grow indoors though.
Cool id like to find out the height it reaches if you just let it grow, i dont like lst-ing or scrog, i like letting it unfold naturally without forcing or stressing it too much
The thing i love about indoor is you can control everything, like filter the dust thats gonna be hitting those sticky buds, if you grow outside you'd get all sorts of stuff stuck to your buds unless you plant outside surrounded by bushes that will act as a dust filter...
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5 pages and not one mention of intestinal distress caused by microscopic "hooks" on cannabis? If people are sensitive, your diet will make them SUFFER bad.
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The primary danger in eating cannabis, besides the presence of unwanted fertilizers, chemicals, and grow-mediums, is the presence of stalactites which in many cases can lead to dangerous irritation of the throat, stomach, and mouth. The stalactites, or tiny hair/fuzz on the stem, serve their purpose with this mechanism by discouraging consumption of raw cannabis by wildlife. Any form of cooking or soaking in any food product can reduce the risk of irritation caused by the presence of stalactites. Those using cannabis as a medication, especially for respiratory disorders, should avoid eating cannabis and chewing on the stems, as the dangers of stalactite irritation may outweight the positive medical benefits of ingestion.
Please take this into consideration before sharing with your hippie raw fruit friends...
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You arent suppose to eat the stems :0.... and the only reason raw cannabis upsets anyones stomach is they are eating cooked, processed foods, thus they reside in an acidic state.
YOu either go 100% raw, and benefit from raw cannabis, or you dont. You cant consume raw cannabis on a Standard American Diet and expect perfect health or bliss overnight... it doesnt work like that. I hope that clear up the digestive issues anyone faces with raw cannabis.
Edit: let me add since I began my experiment, I have had to irritation whatso ever... Ive been raw for 3 months, and consuming raw cannabis for the past week... so it must be people eating a SAD (Standard American Diet) diet, that report this phenomenon. Our stomachs are designed to consume plant matter, and cannabis is the most perfect food.
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OK, now you sound like a loon, and I mean that in a nice friendly way....
Let me rephrase.
Cannabis in the raw, not just the stems, is covered in microscopic hairs that MAY irritate people. I'm glad your super raw diet provides magical protection against this, but other people should be warned.
It has nothing to do with a SAD diet, and has everything to do with cannabis plants having a defense mechanism against being eaten.
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...Our stomachs are designed to consume plant matter...
Now you are just regurgitating the rawfood/vegetarian party line bullshit...
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several of our physiological features “clearly indicate a design” for eating meat, including “our stomach’s production of hydrochloric acid, something not found in herbivores. Furthermore, the human pancreas manufactures a full range of digestive enzymes to handle a wide variety of foods, both animal and vegetable.
I seriously don't mean to shit on your thread, but eating raw cannabis can be dangerous, and it's totally worthless besides this feel good happy vibe bullshit you keep talking about.
Stick to tofu and meditation.
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I am speaking from experience: Raw cannabis, even if larger amounts, does not irritate my stomach. I can only speak for myself.
It does hurt me when someone comes into the thread, and completely bash on my way of life. I am not bashing anyone in this thread, I am simply presenting my facts, experiences, and opinions on the raw cannabis topic.
Provide me with a credible source that states that eating raw cannabis irritates the stomach, and that it is dangerous. I am curious to see how the microscopic hairs play into the consumption. They may in fact be useful for our bodies, who knows.
Edit: Here is my theory on the issue of the microscopic hairs on the stems, and leaves.
When you take a person eating a SAD diet, and make them eat 1 cubic foot of fresh grown wheat grass, it will irritate their stomach BIG time. This is a sweeping action happening in the stomach lining. The wheat grass is essentially sweeping the thin layer of dark, slimy mucous our stomachs develop to protect us from processed, cooked, and chemically treated foods. If a person that has been raw for several months ate the same amount of wheat grass, they would experience no discomfort, as the thin, mucous layer is absent. Since the layer of mucous is absent, our stomachs are much more efficient at digesting and breaking down the plant matter, whether its cannabis, or wheat grass, or celery.
I believe this simplifies the issue at hand, with people experiencing discomfort from eating raw cannabis.
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Re: Raw Cannabis [Re: ABR516]
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Eating raw cannabis is highly inefficient and is VERY wasteful if your looking to get "feel good" effects from Cannabis. If your looking for antioxidant effects or other reasons there are WAY better fruits and raw food out there to provide benefits
This isn't opinion dude, this is fact. You can believe whatever you want
But just because I believe a box of cereal is the almighty god don't make it true. Believe what you want
whether there is truth to this raw cannbis theory or not, you sir have completely missed the point of the thread and should really work on your reading comprehension skills. it's rather embarrassing
Good thing your comprehension skills is superior because you should realize I wasn't referring to the opening post when I made my post. Please go ahead and continue to bash me you silly mongrel.
I do not believe Cannabis was meant to be eaten raw at all. Go ahead and eat your Cannabis and tell us how you feel. I'm not saying don't do it, I'm just saying there is better things you could put in your stomach than Cannabis. The few times I had to eat Cannabis because of cops I had quite the stomach discomfort later and that much alone tells me it was NOT meant for the body.
Just because you can eat it doesn't mean its good for you. You are also assuming your body can properly digest Cannabis raw. I doubt it can efficiently do so. Continue on though 
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Re: Raw Cannabis [Re: feifen]
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Eating raw cannabis is highly inefficient and is VERY wasteful if your looking to get "feel good" effects from Cannabis. If your looking for antioxidant effects or other reasons there are WAY better fruits and raw food out there to provide benefits
This isn't opinion dude, this is fact. You can believe whatever you want
But just because I believe a box of cereal is the almighty god don't make it true. Believe what you want
whether there is truth to this raw cannbis theory or not, you sir have completely missed the point of the thread and should really work on your reading comprehension skills. it's rather embarrassing
Good thing your comprehension skills is superior because you should realize I wasn't referring to the opening post when I made my post. Please go ahead and continue to bash me you silly mongrel.
I do not believe Cannabis was meant to be eaten raw at all. Go ahead and eat your Cannabis and tell us how you feel. I'm not saying don't do it, I'm just saying there is better things you could put in your stomach than Cannabis. The few times I had to eat Cannabis because of cops I had quite the stomach discomfort later and that much alone tells me it was NOT meant for the body.
Just because you can eat it doesn't mean its good for you. You are also assuming your body can properly digest Cannabis raw. I doubt it can efficiently do so. Continue on though
I do not want to tell you to leave the thread, and I respect your opinion, but if all you are going to do is bash raw cannabis, then you arent contributing to the thread's purpose.
If you can provide evidence to support your opinion, then I am all ears .
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Just informing the thread that I will be going on a 7 day fast, and will cease the consumption of raw cannabis during this time, but will continue after.
I plan to do a 2 day water fast, transition into a 5 day juice fast, and will be breaking the fast with 40 grams of fresh mushies, and a couple small fresh buds of cannabis, along with a fresh cannabis salad. The fast will purify my system, giving me a greater mushroom experience, and I am hoping that I will reside in a more alkaline state, so that the consumption of the cannabis takes less energy from my body.
Ill let you guys know how it went in a week
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I finally figured out how best to utilize raw cannabis for the cannabinoid receptor activation.
YOu must consume impregnated cannabis, the female which has been pollinated by the male, so as to make the complete fruit, creating the tree of life.
The EFA's, or essential fatty acids Omega 3 & 6, both found in perfect proportions for the human body, create a medium for the cannabinoids and terpenoids to bind to. This allows the cannabinoids to assimilate into the body at a healthy, natural rate, allowing the constituents to stay in your system longer. I have yet to experiment with any raw cannabis other than sensimilla, but plan to very soon.
Besides activating the cannabinoid system, which is what anandamide binds to, you are eating one of the most antioxidant rich, alkalizing foods on the planet, so your body moves to a more alkaline system, and everything functions properly.
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but let me get this straight...
i have to move over to a completely raw and meat free diet in order for this to work? i mean i already have what i think is a pretty good diet....better than most americans anyways...i only buy local produce and meats and i dont eat fast food or anything overprocessed...i get plenty of veggies both raw and cooked...i have also began to eat more raw nuts so if i start to eat raw cannabis will it have any effect or will it not work until i completely wipe out the meat and the cheese....even though both are naturally raised and chemical free
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Re: Raw Cannabis [Re: ABR516]
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your body will be more efficient at processing the raw impregnated cannabis if you are already eating a raw diet... cutting out anything thats cooked... but anyone can do this and experience the divine... nothing like just smoking it which is just a temporary experience.
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To anyone who reads this thread:
You should just cook with cannabis, it denatures it to be more readily absorbed and is more effective. You still get the benefits of ingesting the cannabis as well.
Eating it raw is simply inefficient all around, and having a completely raw diet is very unhealthy IMO
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Re: Raw Cannabis [Re: feifen]
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To anyone who reads this thread:
You should just cook with cannabis, it denatures it to be more readily absorbed and is more effective. You still get the benefits of ingesting the cannabis as well.
Eating it raw is simply inefficient all around, and having a completely raw diet is very unhealthy IMO
still tootin the efficiency horn eh?
Robo:
Your whole idea about the raw cannabis is interesting to me and I also appreciate your interest in the matter. Though it kind of seems like you want this raw cannabis thing to work so bad, that you would incorporate any information you are presented with into your theory somehow. What do you think?
By the way what made you switch over to the raw food diet in the first place if you dont mind me asking?
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because I am naturally high off eating a raw diet.... I switched to the 80/10/10 diet, by Doug Graham, which is pretty much a fruitarian diet and I feel euphoric all the time. I can meditate with ease, I have no problem running several miles to produce an endorphin high.
Its mostly about having a pure healthy body... a raw diet is always healthier than any cooked diet... some people have the will power and ability to thrive with pure energy on a fruitarian diet, but I would love to supplement raw cannabis into my diet, if not making all of my diet cannabis... which is my goal.
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This is interesting.
I just began doing a full body detox and am becoming vegetarian.
Tomorrow i start fasting.
No more meats, fish, poultry, dairy. none of them.
I have recently decided that i will never smoke a day of my life again.
And i too believe in the vitality i am sure cannabis will bring.
After my body and mind are cleansed of toxins and my digestive tract empty of traces of meats and whatnot, i will start eating raw cannabis, impregnated, or i will get hemp seeds seperately from an online source.
Do you have any advice for me, as i am still very young and could use all the help i can get.
Also how would one go about getting their body back into shape, with a slipped disc in my lower back, just about everything i do is pretty discomforting. So do you know of any exercises that would least strain the lower back area?
Thanks
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I finally figured out how best to utilize raw cannabis for the cannabinoid receptor activation.
YOu must consume impregnated cannabis, the female which has been pollinated by the male, so as to make the complete fruit, creating the tree of life.
The EFA's, or essential fatty acids Omega 3 & 6, both found in perfect proportions for the human body, create a medium for the cannabinoids and terpenoids to bind to. This allows the cannabinoids to assimilate into the body at a healthy, natural rate, allowing the constituents to stay in your system longer. I have yet to experiment with any raw cannabis other than sensimilla, but plan to very soon.
Besides activating the cannabinoid system, which is what anandamide binds to, you are eating one of the most antioxidant rich, alkalizing foods on the planet, so your body moves to a more alkaline system, and everything functions properly.
Could you tell me, please, what your source is for this info? Thanks in advance.
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I have been doin the exact same for a few years now. I am a 22 year old female living in London UK, I have been longing for a tropical living environment for so long now. I know it will enhance my experience on raw foods and cannabis. I used to smoke but do not enjoy the 'high' any more in comparison with eating cannabis raw. Its amazing to hear your story and I agree totally with your belief that raw ganja enables true enlightenment.. peace, love and blessings. Hope to connect with you soon x x x
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