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Re: does mycelium need air exchange to grow? [Re: sicknesslives]
    #11972863 - 02/06/10 12:54 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

:owl:

If you guys actually read my posts...there really is not much to disagree with...


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Re: does mycelium need air exchange to grow? [Re: Shea25]
    #11972893 - 02/06/10 01:02 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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Shea25 said:
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My jars that are in my incubator have foil covering them and are not growing. should i take the foil off? I don't know what to do!




How long has it been?

They need air exchange and they should get enough as long as your lid is not on too tight, ive heard people say even then it still get enough air exchange...But I always have my lid turned upside down with the white facing up and I do not tighten the lids all the way.

They need air exchange but its hard to keep fresh air from creeping in.





:facepalm:

The lids don;t have to be loose. the 4 holes in the lid should be enough as long as they are unobstructed. heck I have my lids rubberside down and tight they are all fine

They need GE= GAS EXCHANGE not Air exchange

Turn those temps down to 75. 85 is quite hot




As an added note, I use 3 inoc points of my jars and the myc just showed itself. i have micropore tape on the holes, would removing it increase myc growth rate?

didnt mean to hijack, just figured related info.

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Re: does mycelium need air exchange to grow? [Re: TeamAmerica]
    #11972898 - 02/06/10 01:03 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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TeamAmerica said:
:owl:

If you guys actually read my posts...there really is not much to disagree with...




the hell there isnt
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Gas exchange...Air exchange?

Just words, im getting to the valid point regardless of what word I use...


85 to 80 is fine

just wait...




all bad info
85 is way too hot!!!
and you want gas exchange not air exchange

like i said learn the meaning of these two before you use them

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not sure what GE and FAE are but i should probably get some.

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Re: does mycelium need air exchange to grow? [Re: TeamAmerica]
    #11972944 - 02/06/10 01:14 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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If you guys actually read my posts...there really is not much to disagree with...




im not trying to put you down man, im not like that. all i know about mycology is from what ive read, ive started my first JARS in the past few days. youve been here over a year, im sure you know what you're talkin about, and im sure you know what works for you.


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Re: does mycelium need air exchange to grow? [Re: TeamAmerica]
    #11972973 - 02/06/10 01:22 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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TeamAmerica said:
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If you guys actually read my posts...there really is not much to disagree with...





Actually if people read these www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11972138#11972138
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11972114#11972114
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11970554/fpart/all/vc/1He

They will know everything not to do based on your info ranging from mid 80's for colonization and thinking Gas exchange is the same as Air exchange to telling people not to fan there FC's and the use of 6500K fluorescent lamps or any lights are not needed:facepalm: You go against everything that has been refined in the last few years and what the most trusted cultivators say. i really think the root of the issue is that you have yet to even grow a single mushroom


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Re: does mycelium need air exchange to grow? [Re: Shea25]
    #11972994 - 02/06/10 01:29 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

:crazybeard:


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Re: does mycelium need air exchange to grow? [Re: 13shrooms]
    #11973050 - 02/06/10 01:51 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

OMG too funny.
Team merica get your shit together please.


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Re: does mycelium need air exchange to grow? [Re: truskool]
    #11973051 - 02/06/10 01:52 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Hey long time no see


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Re: does mycelium need air exchange to grow? [Re: truskool]
    #11973063 - 02/06/10 01:56 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Are you guys out of pot or something?  Let's not pick each others noses please.
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Re: does mycelium need air exchange to grow? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #11973076 - 02/06/10 01:58 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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Are you guys out of pot or something? 
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not sure what GE and FAE are but i should probably get some.

Citric said:
Your signature is wrong on colonization temps!

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Re: does mycelium need air exchange to grow? [Re: noobieshroomie]
    #11973079 - 02/06/10 01:59 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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Are you guys out of pot or something? 
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:lmafo::billymaythumbup:

-noobie-





Lol I don't even smoke pot:crazy2:


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Re: does mycelium need air exchange to grow? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #11973125 - 02/06/10 02:11 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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Are you guys out of pot or something?  RR




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Re: does mycelium need air exchange to grow? [Re: sicknesslives]
    #11973138 - 02/06/10 02:14 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

:lolz0rz::lmafo:


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not sure what GE and FAE are but i should probably get some.

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Your signature is wrong on colonization temps!

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Re: does mycelium need air exchange to grow? [Re: noobieshroomie]
    #11973322 - 02/06/10 03:06 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

On a similar note...

With agars baby bottle LC...

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/4141612#4141612

It seemingly takes longer than any other LC that Deaner's done. Is it because lack of gas exchange?


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Re: does mycelium need air exchange to grow? [Re: Paulie And Deaner]
    #11973342 - 02/06/10 03:11 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

yes it takes longer because it cant brethe

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not sure what GE and FAE are but i should probably get some.

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ROOM TEMP 70-75 IS BEST FOR COLONIZATION
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Re: does mycelium need air exchange to grow? [Re: Paulie And Deaner]
    #11973347 - 02/06/10 03:12 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

yup

it helps if you dont fill it up as much so it leaves more air at the top and it wont stall or slow its growth b4 its done. :strokebeard:


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Re: does mycelium need air exchange to grow? [Re: 13shrooms]
    #11973533 - 02/06/10 04:34 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

speaking of LC's when i barely swril mine, it breaks up into a bunch of teeny pieces. i use 175ml of dist. water, and 1/2 tbls. of honey, jar wrapped in tinfiol, kept in the dark at 79F. it grows great, but it does that, is it normal, or am i doin somethin wrong?


noobie- i just sat and watched your avatar for like, 5 minutes. its so goddamn funny!!no, im lying its a :failboat::dumblol:


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Re: does mycelium need air exchange to grow? [Re: PeaceMoodie]
    #11973622 - 02/06/10 05:41 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

"Fresh air exchange" and "gas exchange" are stupid terms which only seem to confuse new growers. Somehow the expressions have turned to idioms here; "gas exchange" has come to mean "not hermetically sealed containers". "Fresh air exchange" has come to mean "gas exchange at a higher rate than 'the other gas exchange'". It should it most cases really read "lowering of CO2 levels".

I've seen "GE" (re-)defined as Gas Expulsion, which only makes a little more sense than Gas Exchange.

To answer the OP:s direct question: mycelium needs oxygen to grow.


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Re: does mycelium need air exchange to grow? [Re: Pinback]
    #11973774 - 02/06/10 07:32 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Gas Exchange means an enrichment of oxygen in a more or less sealed environment, in order to prevent the air to contain too much C02. Mushrooms like rather high C02 levels, but the mycelium does indeed need oxygen to grow.

Fresh Air Exchange means a replacement of the whole amount of air in an micro environment, in order to prevent as much oxygen as possible.

The problem might be (about the confusion), that many people don't really know what it's all about.
They use these terms without actually knowing their function. In the end, the terms are actually legit, in my opinion. They pretty much describe what it's about.

With GE you exchange C02 with Oxygen, with FAE you exchange "old" air with fresh air. Of course air consist of gas as well, but the term "air" should indicate what it's about.

But maybe you're right... When you don't know what it is, it doesn't make too much sense:crazy:


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