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 Cloudkicker
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 Re: Significant! LSD/Shrooms damage your brain permanently!  [Re: owls]
#11829172 - 01/14/10 05:14 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Why focus on the negatives LSD does when the only negative for most ppl is a very very mild vision impairment(if you even want to use the word impair) , why not focus on the HUGE amount of positivity this drug brings to us
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Re: Significant! LSD/Shrooms damage your brain permanently! [Re: LSDreamer]
#11829189 - 01/14/10 05:16 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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teeter,
is HPPD permanent? can you describe to me what it is like? never heard or met anyone who had it.
HPPD usually fades when you stop using.
sorry to double post, but this is totally incorrect. for those who aquire genuine HPPD, it does not simply "fade away" with time. the visuals that HPPDers experience constantly are hardwired into the brain
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Re: Significant! LSD/Shrooms damage your brain permanently! [Re: thunderfox]
#11829236 - 01/14/10 05:22 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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thunderfox said:
If one of your weel always points a bit to the right, so that "the way your car drives is altered", it is damaged.
Thunderfox
did you ever consider the possibility that psychedelics might not be for you? 
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Edited by owls (01/14/10 05:23 PM)
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Re: Significant! LSD/Shrooms damage your brain permanently! [Re: thunderfox]
#11829237 - 01/14/10 05:22 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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thunderfox said:
If one of your weel always points a bit to the right, so that "the way your car drives is altered", it is damaged.
Thunderfox
did you ever consider the possibility that psychedelics might not be for you?
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Edited by owls (01/14/10 05:22 PM)
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Re: Significant! LSD/Shrooms damage your brain permanently! [Re: owls]
#11829256 - 01/14/10 05:23 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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owls said:
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LSDreamer said:
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appleorange said:
teeter,
is HPPD permanent? can you describe to me what it is like? never heard or met anyone who had it.
HPPD usually fades when you stop using.
sorry to double post, but this is totally incorrect. for those who aquire genuine HPPD, it does not simply "fade away" with time. the visuals that HPPDers experience constantly are hardwired into the brain
where's the solid evidence of this?
I don't believe this at all.
there is seldom anything that's hardwired into the brain that wasn't already there (i.e. genetically predisposed)
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Re: Significant! LSD/Shrooms damage your brain permanently! [Re: owls]
#11829280 - 01/14/10 05:26 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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owls said:
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LSDreamer said:
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appleorange said:
teeter,
is HPPD permanent? can you describe to me what it is like? never heard or met anyone who had it.
HPPD usually fades when you stop using.
sorry to double post, but this is totally incorrect. for those who aquire genuine HPPD, it does not simply "fade away" with time. the visuals that HPPDers experience constantly are hardwired into the brain
You're totally wrong. Very few cases of HPPD are permanent. Unless you define HPPD as permanent, in which case there's incredibly few cases of HPPD.
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Re: Significant! LSD/Shrooms damage your brain permanently! [Re: piracetam]
#11829287 - 01/14/10 05:27 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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exactly. go to hppdonline.com and read about it
people who get HPPD were already predisposed to it
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Re: Significant! LSD/Shrooms damage your brain permanently! [Re: LSDreamer]
#11829298 - 01/14/10 05:28 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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LSDreamer said:
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owls said:
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LSDreamer said:
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appleorange said:
teeter,
is HPPD permanent? can you describe to me what it is like? never heard or met anyone who had it.
HPPD usually fades when you stop using.
sorry to double post, but this is totally incorrect. for those who aquire genuine HPPD, it does not simply "fade away" with time. the visuals that HPPDers experience constantly are hardwired into the brain
You're totally wrong. Very few cases of HPPD are permanent. Unless you define HPPD as permanent, in which case there's incredibly few cases of HPPD.
exactly, you answered your own question. chances of getting HPPD are 1 in a million
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Re: Significant! LSD/Shrooms damage your brain permanently! [Re: owls]
#11829340 - 01/14/10 05:34 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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owls said:
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thunderfox said:
If one of your weel always points a bit to the right, so that "the way your car drives is altered", it is damaged.
Thunderfox
did you ever consider the possibility that psychedelics might not be for you?
Yes. And you, do you reflect about your actions?
By the way: Why do you make three posts in a row for 4 sentences?
@piracetam: I have to agree that HPPD lasts for months or years in most cases. References are already in this thread.
Thunderfox
PS: what the fuck, two new one-sentence-posts from you, owls. Stop spamming.
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Re: Significant! LSD/Shrooms damage your brain permanently! [Re: appleorange]
#11829638 - 01/14/10 06:15 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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ive never used lsd and ive eaten mushrooms only once. however, i do ingest weed daily and i can say that i may have a very mild form of hppd. the symptoms i experience are: flashing balls of light in the dark, seeing flashes of colors like red or green in the dark, seeing dark spots out of the corner of my eye when nothing dark is there, perceiving a sound as a completely different sound, seeing trails with every light that stands alone and when im out in sunlight not looking directly at the ground, the ground looks as if it its rushing like a river underneath me. these symptoms could make some people feel miserable or scared but ive gotten used to them now and i kind of enjoy them actually.
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Re: Significant! LSD/Shrooms damage your brain permanently! [Re: thunderfox]
#11829956 - 01/14/10 07:13 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah, I would hardly classify having slight visual disturbances as brain damage. Yes a change in perception, but I've yet to hear a case that was life altering, or even really anything that effected their daily lives for more than a few weeks tops, and usually the people who had it bad for days or a week were people who had been using copious amounts for awhile and usually the last time they ingested was a massive dose. I've had floaters since I was to young to even know what LSD was, I don't know if that should really be considered HPPD.
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Re: Significant! LSD/Shrooms damage your brain permanently! [Re: briant230]
#11830391 - 01/14/10 08:27 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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floaters doesn't = hppd, symptoms like static overlaid on your vision, trails from moving objects, slight movement or breathing, and after images are the more obvious ones.
I think that it could be easily a negative thing to some people, my case isn't so bad and i accepted it without much trouble, but not everyone would be so accepting of these symptoms. Especially since its not often talked about as a potential consequence so many people are unaware this is even a possibility.
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Re: Significant! LSD/Shrooms damage your brain permanently! [Re: StickyRicky]
#11830696 - 01/14/10 09:04 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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How bad are your symptoms StickyRicky? and how long have they been occurring?
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Re: Significant! LSD/Shrooms damage your brain permanently! [Re: StickyRicky]
#11830758 - 01/14/10 09:11 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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static overlaid on your vision, trails from moving objects, slight movement or breathing.
This is what I have.
And because I have it I don't notice it nearly as much when I'm actually tripping, it used to be much, much more intense, now it just seems normal.
Edited by highdroponics (01/14/10 09:13 PM)
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Re: Significant! LSD/Shrooms damage your brain permanently! [Re: briant230]
#11830922 - 01/14/10 09:30 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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at the moment actually its been pretty tame compared with before, i think it might be subsiding slowly. Ive had it for 8-12 months i'd geuss, although i didnt stop tripping entirely so that probably kept it going.
I have symptoms like when i look at text or something and if i look away at the wall i can see a faint negative image of the lines projected onto the wall, if i wave my arm i get trails like up to a foot long although not as intense as when tripping. And i have moving static (its like what i see with my eyes closed is still visible with my eyes open)that is most apparent in certain lighting, sometimes there is specks of color and things mixed in. And more rarely what im looking at might start crawling a bit.
That all sounds pretty scary and intense, but after a little while it becomes normal and fades into the background. I don't notice it too much nowadays unless i purposefully look for it.
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Re: Significant! LSD/Shrooms damage your brain permanently! [Re: StickyRicky]
#11830952 - 01/14/10 09:35 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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at its worst a room would appear to be filled with thick static, with little buzzing movement happening all over the place in my peripheral vision and was sometimes impossible to ignore.
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Re: Significant! LSD/Shrooms damage your brain permanently! [Re: StickyRicky]
#11831754 - 01/14/10 11:28 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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i don't think that shrooms damage the brain. Once i was in a deep binge of em and people said i talked a little slower and spoke in riddles and very philospical. But soon later my voice got back to normal speed and i still talk philosopical but i lessened the riddles.
I can only describe it in one way.
A door opened in my head and it just took me a little bit to understand it.
As for HPPD and what not, i believe it goes away with time.
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