Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!
|
 LSDreamer
Psychedelic Atheist
Registered: 03/11/08
Posts: 8,638
Last seen: 8 months, 7 days
|
 Re: Some questions about my friends first trip  [Re: crazyboy25]
#11823700 - 01/13/10 07:24 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
crazyboy25 said:
Quote:
preschooler said:
Why not ask your friend what kind of trip he/she wants?
I did, I told him about my experience with 3g 3.6g and 5g and he said 4g sounded good but I'm reconsidering in case he is more sensitive than I am. It seems like you are pretty sure about this so I guess I'll talk to him and give him 2g and if he wants I can give him more.
Trust me, it's better for someone to underdose than overdose on psychedelics. He's got his entire life to trip, he doesn't need to sledgehammer his brain from the get go.
--------------------
|
oxalic32
Registered: 01/27/08
Posts: 3,615
Loc: .
Last seen: 2 years, 1 month
|
|
.
Edited by oxalic32 (12/19/10 11:57 PM)
|
LSDreamer
Psychedelic Atheist
Registered: 03/11/08
Posts: 8,638
Last seen: 8 months, 7 days
|
Re: Some questions about my friends first trip [Re: oxalic32]
#11824663 - 01/13/10 09:52 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
oxalic32 said:
Quote:
LSDreamer said:
2 grams is a pretty solid mushroom trip for me. Dosing someone with 2 grams isn't stupid at all. 2 grams of mushrooms is not "pot + 1" at all.
I've been in this boat before.
I wanted my friend to consume 3.5 grams so he'd get the "full experience". He'd never tried them at this point. He felt comfortable taking 2 grams. He took 2 grams.
Thats when we found out how sensitive to psychedelics he was. 2 grams he was laying on the bathroom floor not understanding who he was, what he was doing, or what he was supposed to be doing. He saw multiple realities and couldn't tell which one he was in.
3.5 grams for this particular person would have been a trainwreck. He probably would have ran around the house wrecking things while puking.
Whats the worst thing that happens if you under dose them? They didnt get the full experience but know they can handle more? Whats the worst thing that happens if you over dose them? They never want to trip again, get incredibly sick, and even they get wild enough they could easily get you arrested.
Its stupid to give someone a high dose when you have no idea how a certain dosage will effect them. You dont start high then go low. Thing about how a doctor starts someone on medication. He doesnt start you with OC80s and if you throw up he downs the dose.
Use some common sense. You dont want to get in trouble when it comes to fungus.
Exactly. I have been in a situation in which someone was having a psychotic break on mushrooms and he easily could have gotten everybody arrested. We're lucky he didn't. I was on an 1/8th of mushrooms myself and they were VERY strong mushrooms (I'm also slightly sensitive to mushrooms, so I was pretty gone) so I was in no position to help at all. Once shit got really out of control, I just left. I know it sounds like I dick move but I was too far gone to be of ANY use and I didn't want to go to jail on mushrooms. It is a scary, bad situation that you do NOT want to be in. Always dose psychedelics conservatively in social situations in which you do not have an emergency trip abort available. Benzos are commonly thought of this, but that is not always sufficient. Benzos can induce mania in people who are in a truly psychotic state and make the situation worse. What you want is an antipsychotic like Seroquel on hand. Obviously I'm not saying only dose high if you have an anti-psychotic, what I'm saying is: If a psychotic reaction could endanger others, dose conservatively if you don't have sufficient measures to counteract a psychotic reaction. Be safe. Be responsible.
--------------------
|
teeter
Mindfucked
Registered: 02/07/09
Posts: 1,081
Loc: Philadelphia PA
Last seen: 1 month, 5 days
|
Re: Some questions about my friends first trip [Re: LSDreamer]
#11825118 - 01/13/10 11:07 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
LSDreamer said:
Well, as long as you know how reckless it is to dose someone with 3 grams when some people trip hard off 0.5...
Yeah I completely agree. Start him off with a half gram as a test run; then I fully support you starting at 3gs.
Edit: Just read the second page posts after I posted this. LSDreamer and the other dude are giving good advice, you don't want to over do it. Pretty much everyone on the thread agrees on that point, we just disagree on how to not overdo it. I think you should test him out at under a gram and then if hes not super sensitive, bump him up to a 3g trip. If you are opposed to my idea of a test trip then follow LSDreamer's advice and start him at 2g.
--------------------
"If the doors of perception were cleansed every thing would appear to man as it is, infinite. For man has closed himself up, till he sees all things through narrow chinks of his cavern." - William Blake
"Psychedelics helped me to escape.. albeit momentarily.. from the prison of my mind. It over-rode the habit patterns of thought and I was able to taste innocence again. Looking at sensations freshly without the conceptual overly was very profound." - Ram Das
|
 Scudreloaded
psychonaut
Registered: 03/15/09
Posts: 2,981
Loc: Wonderland 
|
Re: Some questions about my friends first trip [Re: LSDreamer]
#11825475 - 01/13/10 11:57 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
what would be the effects of someone tripping fairly hard, then they freak out and you have to give them an anti-psychotic?
I mixed mushrooms with morphine once and went into a black out. Aparently i got pretty out of control and was still fucked up. Cussing and just grumpy over something.
I did come to, but that was three days later. Since then i've been weary of when i mix perscript pills will shrooms.
But one of the above posters mentioned serquil? Wouldnt that just knock the person out in under 20 mins? Has everytime i've had seraquil
--------------------
We were somewhere around Barstow on the edge of the desert when the drugs began to take hold. - Hunter S. Thompson
- believe what you may but take the internet with a grain of salt
|
teeter
Mindfucked
Registered: 02/07/09
Posts: 1,081
Loc: Philadelphia PA
Last seen: 1 month, 5 days
|
Re: Some questions about my friends first trip [Re: Scudreloaded]
#11825506 - 01/14/10 12:00 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Scudreloaded said:
what would be the effects of someone tripping fairly hard, then they freak out and you have to give them an anti-psychotic?
I mixed mushrooms with morphine once and went into a black out. Aparently i got pretty out of control and was still fucked up. Cussing and just grumpy over something.
I did come to, but that was three days later. Since then i've been weary of when i mix perscript pills will shrooms.
But one of the above posters mentioned serquil? Wouldnt that just knock the person out in under 20 mins? Has everytime i've had seraquil
Thats a wierd effect from Morphine. I have friends that like pain killers on psychedelics; they are just recreational trippers so they enjoy the combo due to the intense body high and nice visuals, plus the pks dull the mindfuck so it makes for a fun time for them (kind of like a Candyflip). They don't get any adverse effects from the mix. I'm pretty sure anti-psychotics do something to block/reverse the effects of the drug and also makes you very tried/fall asleep.
--------------------
"If the doors of perception were cleansed every thing would appear to man as it is, infinite. For man has closed himself up, till he sees all things through narrow chinks of his cavern." - William Blake
"Psychedelics helped me to escape.. albeit momentarily.. from the prison of my mind. It over-rode the habit patterns of thought and I was able to taste innocence again. Looking at sensations freshly without the conceptual overly was very profound." - Ram Das
|
LSDreamer
Psychedelic Atheist
Registered: 03/11/08
Posts: 8,638
Last seen: 8 months, 7 days
|
Re: Some questions about my friends first trip [Re: Scudreloaded]
#11826075 - 01/14/10 01:25 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Scudreloaded said:
what would be the effects of someone tripping fairly hard, then they freak out and you have to give them an anti-psychotic?
I mixed mushrooms with morphine once and went into a black out. Aparently i got pretty out of control and was still fucked up. Cussing and just grumpy over something.
I did come to, but that was three days later. Since then i've been weary of when i mix perscript pills will shrooms.
But one of the above posters mentioned serquil? Wouldnt that just knock the person out in under 20 mins? Has everytime i've had seraquil
Classical psychedelics are 5-HT2a agonists. Antipsychotics are mostly 5-HT2a antagonists. A proper dose of an antipsychotic will completely or nearly completely kill a trip.
--------------------
| |
|
|
|
|
Images only 
Threaded
Previous
Index
Next
Edit 
Reply 
