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#11726631 - 12/27/09 04:28 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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i've scoured this town and nobody carries vermiculite. i have perlite and brown rice, so could i potentially substitute the vermiculite with perlite? any suggestions?
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Re: cakes with no vermiculite [Re: Avid]
#11726637 - 12/27/09 04:29 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Either order it on the internet or look into using whole rice as your substrate. If you have a pressure cooker you could move right onto grains, using such things as bird seed or rye.
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Re: cakes with no vermiculite [Re: m00nshine]
#11726690 - 12/27/09 04:39 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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grains is the way to go.............
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Re: cakes with no vermiculite [Re: m00nshine]
#11726699 - 12/27/09 04:40 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Follow all teks to a "T" to avoid failure. They were made through trial and error. I it could be done, chances are it has and can be found by searching for it.
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Re: cakes with no vermiculite [Re: mister]
#11726726 - 12/27/09 04:47 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Perlite and vermiculite are completely different, i doubt it will work.
Do some grains.
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Re: cakes with no vermiculite [Re: Tcm19277]
#11726743 - 12/27/09 04:49 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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can someone post a link or something? there's so much on here that i have a hard time finding anything... i just wanna know how to do a whole brown rice grow.
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Re: cakes with no vermiculite [Re: Avid]
#11726780 - 12/27/09 04:57 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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www.mushroomvideos.com
Check out the pf tek videos on the main page. If you can find perlite, you have to be able to find vermiculite. Go to Lowe's or Home Depot or a garden center and ask for it, it is very common. Perlite can be harder to find in my opinion because you can't use miracle grow perlite because it is treated with fertilizer, you gotta find some that is untreated which was hard for me. Oh, also the rice you use must be organic and you must grind it first in a coffee grinder, it is all in the videos. Good luck!!!
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Re: cakes with no vermiculite [Re: bootedboy]
#11726822 - 12/27/09 05:04 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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they had perlite, but no vermiculite... ugh. and i have a PO box, so i can't order it.
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Re: cakes with no vermiculite [Re: Avid]
#11726844 - 12/27/09 05:08 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Any nursery worth being in business will have vermiculite. It's used in seed beds. Don't go to lumberyards or walmart. Go to a normal plant nursery. Also, if you're in the US, Ace hardware usually stocks it. If you're in a big city, hydroponics stores carry large bags. Don't waste your money or time trying to do brf without vermiculite.
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Re: cakes with no vermiculite [Re: RogerRabbit]
#11726928 - 12/27/09 05:22 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
RogerRabbit said:
Any nursery worth being in business will have vermiculite. It's used in seed beds. Don't go to lumberyards or walmart. Go to a normal plant nursery. Also, if you're in the US, Ace hardware usually stocks it. If you're in a big city, hydroponics stores carry large bags. Don't waste your money or time trying to do brf without vermiculite.
RR
Yep. After scouring to find gypsum, I found a 40 lb sack for 7 bucks at a locally owned nursery, along with verm. The place was beautiful, with outdoor gardens and trails, so it was an enjoyable trip as well.
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I have been to many places such as Lowes and Home Depot to find my supplies. I've had employees tell me they don't carry verm or perlite whatever but it was bullshit. I looked for 15 min and found what I needed it. Point is don't trust an employee to know their shit.
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Re: cakes with no vermiculite [Re: Avid]
#11728252 - 12/27/09 09:56 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
Avid said:
i've scoured this town and nobody carries vermiculite.
Post your ZIP Code, I'll find it for you. 
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Re: cakes with no vermiculite [Re: Doc_T]
#11728283 - 12/27/09 10:06 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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As for the perlite cake idea, even though it's generally recommended against, i'd like to see someone try it just to see if it might work. For experimental purposes.
Practically, I'd advise you to keep searching for verm though. Locate an independent garden supply store. You might not know of any, but they're probably there unless you're in the middle of nowhere. Hit up them Yellow Pages.
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Re: cakes with no vermiculite [Re: sacredcow]
#11728294 - 12/27/09 10:07 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Perlite cakes will work, just not as well as verm. Somebody- I think RR?- was saying that they used to do it that way back in the day.
And Stamets mentions perlite+rice bran in TMC, same difference.
But gimme a ZIP Code & Google, and I'll have verm for the OP in a few mi9nutes.
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Re: cakes with no vermiculite [Re: Doc_T]
#11728634 - 12/27/09 11:27 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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if u dont have a pc for grains...and cant find verm u can use sraight up whole brown rice...just case it...i did it once in the same predicament.
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Re: cakes with no vermiculite [Re: bootedboy]
#11730008 - 12/28/09 06:56 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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bootedboy said: Perlite can be harder to find in my opinion because you can't use miracle grow perlite because it is treated with fertilizer, you gotta find some that is untreated which was hard for me. Oh, also the rice you use must be organic
those statements are very untrue and outdated.
miracle gro perlite works amazing. its actually cheaper per quart than other brands ive used as well and i actually prefer miracle-gro.
it does have TRACE ammounts of ferts that just needs a rinse under the faucet like any other perlite.
and for the rice, just use nonorganic. it performs just as well and is cheaper.
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Re: cakes with no vermiculite [Re: galadar]
#11730018 - 12/28/09 07:04 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I use Miracle Gro perlite sometimes, no problems there. It's smaller than some other kinds, if that's an issue. (Might be better for cakes, though?)
May or may not be cheaper than the big bag, but it's easier to find and easier to store.
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Re: cakes with no vermiculite [Re: Doc_T]
#11738438 - 12/29/09 06:49 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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found it guys. thanks. haha.
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Re: cakes with no vermiculite [Re: Avid]
#11738441 - 12/29/09 06:50 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Where at? Someplace you had called, and they didn't have a clue?
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Re: cakes with no vermiculite [Re: Doc_T]
#11738470 - 12/29/09 06:55 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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i had a nursery here in washington state actually say it was "illegal" to sell vermiculite.
not sure if its true at all, but was kind of shocked when they told me that and then they looked at me all funny
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Re: cakes with no vermiculite [Re: Avid]
#11738964 - 12/29/09 08:23 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Avid said:
i've scoured this town and nobody carries vermiculite. i have perlite and brown rice, so could i potentially substitute the vermiculite with perlite? any suggestions?
this question is answered in the site next time search b4 you ask questions and no you cant do this
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Quote:
punkrocker292004 said:
this question is answered in the site next time search b4 you ask questions
Could you link me to the answer? I couldn't find it when I searched, I may have used different terms.
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no you cant do this
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Re: cakes with no vermiculite [Re: Doc_T]
#11739861 - 12/29/09 10:52 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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It appears time for this thread to get bumped again.
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Re: cakes with no vermiculite [Re: RogerRabbit]
#11739887 - 12/29/09 10:58 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Not sure if it would hold together well but what about making a cake out of Rye and BRF? Anyone tried this?
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That's weird. Took some looking, but I found it in MA. Can anyone shed some light on this?
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