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Re: My friend that killed a cop [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #11700093 - 12/22/09 05:48 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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When someone kills a cop, you don't have a license to kill that person if you're not also a cop.





Wrong. Don't know about your state but here in NH, you can kill in defense of self and others. We can even kill those we see committing arson.







lol no you cant

by the sounds of it you know less about this story then most people in this thread

let me guess you live in manchester or on the seacost

might as well be mass any way




Yes. Actually you can. Nowhere near Mass and thankful for it.


627:4 Physical Force in Defense of a Person. –
    I. A person is justified in using non-deadly force upon another person in order to defend himself or a third person from what he reasonably believes to be the imminent use of unlawful, non-deadly force by such other person, and he may use a degree of such force which he reasonably believes to be necessary for such purpose. However, such force is not justifiable if:
      (a) With a purpose to cause physical harm to another person, he provoked the use of unlawful, non-deadly force by such other person; or
      (b) He was the initial aggressor, unless after such aggression he withdraws from the encounter and effectively communicates to such other person his intent to do so, but the latter notwithstanding continues the use or threat of unlawful, non-deadly force; or
      (c) The force involved was the product of a combat by agreement not authorized by law.
    II. A person is justified in using deadly force upon another person when he reasonably believes that such other person:
      (a) Is about to use unlawful, deadly force against the actor or a third person;
      (b) Is likely to use any unlawful force against a person present while committing or attempting to commit a burglary;
      (c) Is committing or about to commit kidnapping or a forcible sex offense; or
      (d) Is likely to use any unlawful force in the commission of a felony against the actor within such actor's dwelling or its curtilage.

    III. A person is not justified in using deadly force on another to defend himself or a third person from deadly force by the other if he knows that he and the third person can, with complete safety:
      (a) Retreat from the encounter, except that he is not required to retreat if he is within his dwelling or its curtilage and was not the initial aggressor; or
      (b) Surrender property to a person asserting a claim of right thereto; or
      (c) Comply with a demand that he abstain from performing an act which he is not obliged to perform; nor is the use of deadly force justifiable when, with the purpose of causing death or serious bodily harm, the actor has provoked the use of force against himself in the same encounter.
      (d) If he is a law enforcement officer or a private person assisting him at his direction and was acting pursuant to RSA 627:5, he need not retreat.

Source. 1971, 518:1. 1981, 347:1, 2, eff. Aug. 16, 1981.





Some how I just feel you are not an attorney, and have little comprehension on how laws work. Stop the faggotry that is armchair attorney. There are several laws that overlap where one could be charged depending on what the "facts" are in a case.


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Re: My friend that killed a cop [Re: Poid]
    #11700106 - 12/22/09 05:50 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Life isn't easy, and I don't think great expectations are always warranted. All I'm saying is that this "cop killer" didn't need to be one. He was forced into making a bad decision by poor choice and circumstance. The marine didn't have any real authority to intervene. So I'll just keep whining on the internet, because it's way safer than going outside.


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Re: My friend that killed a cop [Re: OrganizedChaos]
    #11700153 - 12/22/09 05:56 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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OrganizedChaos said:
Some how I just feel you are not an attorney, and have little comprehension on how laws work. Stop the faggotry that is armchair attorney. There are several laws that overlap where one could be charged depending on what the "facts" are in a case.




Nope not an attorney. Not in law enforcement. Just blessed with an ability to read a state statute. I'm also blessed with the ability to read a paper and digest what is written there.

Stop making stupid statements. Or keep looking foolish. I don't care which. I'll keep laughing at your buffoonery.


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Re: My friend that killed a cop [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #11700170 - 12/22/09 06:00 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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OrganizedChaos said:
Some how I just feel you are not an attorney, and have little comprehension on how laws work. Stop the faggotry that is armchair attorney. There are several laws that overlap where one could be charged depending on what the "facts" are in a case.




Nope not an attorney. Not in law enforcement. Just blessed with an ability to read a state statute. I'm also blessed with the ability to read a paper and digest what is written there.

Stop making stupid statements. Or keep looking foolish. I don't care which. I'll keep laughing at your buffoonery.




I'm the one getting chuckles, cling to your guns and ignorance. I'm sure it will get you far.


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Re: My friend that killed a cop [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #11700238 - 12/22/09 06:14 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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627:7 Use of Force in Defense of Premises. – A person in possession or control of premises or a person who is licensed or privileged to be thereon is justified in using non-deadly force upon another when and to the extent that he reasonably believes it necessary to prevent or terminate the commission of a criminal trespass by such other in or upon such premises, but he may use deadly force under such circumstances only in defense of a person as prescribed in RSA 627:4 or when he reasonably believes it necessary to prevent an attempt by the trespasser to commit arson





:failboat:


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Re: My friend that killed a cop [Re: fee]
    #11700240 - 12/22/09 06:14 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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liko seems like a fuckin mess and should never have been carrying a gun around.





I absolutly love the sheeple/brainwashed people that think whatever the cops say is the way we should live


get a grip really




wtf are u talking about? i hate cops.

your dipshit friend should not have been carrying a semi auto pistol around on him. he had some issues obviously.....makes all of us gun owners looks like clowns.


Edited by Leanin (12/22/09 06:18 PM)


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Re: My friend that killed a cop [Re: fee]
    #11700420 - 12/22/09 06:40 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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fee said:
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luvdemshrooms said:
627:7 Use of Force in Defense of Premises. – A person in possession or control of premises or a person who is licensed or privileged to be thereon is justified in using non-deadly force upon another when and to the extent that he reasonably believes it necessary to prevent or terminate the commission of a criminal trespass by such other in or upon such premises, but he may use deadly force under such circumstances only in defense of a person as prescribed in RSA 627:4 or when he reasonably believes it necessary to prevent an attempt by the trespasser to commit arson





:failboat:



Try reading the whole thing, or at least try reading with your head not firmly lodged up your ass. Your lack of reading comprehension has me doubled up laughing.

Your fail boat sank with you in it.

You man enough to admit you're wrong?


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Re: My friend that killed a cop [Re: 13.step]
    #11700436 - 12/22/09 06:42 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Goddammit,the USA is a fucked up place...:facepalm:

Why the fuck do people get lost in their bullshit lives and slowly drift away from reality i'll never know.That cop was a piece of shit by all accounts but your friend also lost it pretty bad and didn't seem like the sharpest tool...in the end this was all a sad situation that could have been avoided...i feel bad for both of them.





This pretty much sums up how I see this.

In every instance of police harassment/brutality I have seen
the victim was being a smart-ass/ass-hole to the cop

there is no reason to be rude or condescending to a cop

EVER

Even if you feel the cop is in the wrong
there is no need in being rude
this is how fights start

bad idea to start a fight with a cop

this kid was obviously harassing the cop as
much as the cop was harassing him

two more idiots that are no longer in the gene pool

evolution at work

:super:


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Re: My friend that killed a cop [Re: niteowl]
    #11700480 - 12/22/09 06:46 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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niteowl said:

two more idiots that are no longer in the gene pool

evolution at work

:super:




Very true. Just the collateral damage to families is the sad part.

Could have been avoided if some dumbass didn't fire at a cop. Then again, hes the one no longer here, so he surely has no victory.


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Re: My friend that killed a cop [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #11700506 - 12/22/09 06:49 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
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fee said:
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luvdemshrooms said:
627:7 Use of Force in Defense of Premises. – A person in possession or control of premises or a person who is licensed or privileged to be thereon is justified in using non-deadly force upon another when and to the extent that he reasonably believes it necessary to prevent or terminate the commission of a criminal trespass by such other in or upon such premises, but he may use deadly force under such circumstances only in defense of a person as prescribed in RSA 627:4 or when he reasonably believes it necessary to prevent an attempt by the trespasser to commit arson





:failboat:



Try reading the whole thing, or at least try reading with your head not firmly lodged up your ass. Your lack of reading comprehension has me doubled up laughing.

Your fail boat sank with you in it.

You man enough to admit you're wrong?





trespassing is a key word there

im sure their my be an instance or two where you could use a gun to fend off an arson but that is not the case if a guy comes up to your house and lights a fire on your property with out a weapon

you cant shoot him sorry


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Have you actually seen what poledancers do?
Its not subjective, it IS erotic activity.
There are more practical ways to slide down a pole than with your legs spread and using your pussy as a brake. Ask the fire department.
[quote]fapjack said:
My grandma always said I"'d rather have a rock hard acorn being drilled into me by a man, than some soggy baguette being flicked into me by a fairy."[/quote]


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Re: My friend that killed a cop [Re: fee]
    #11700560 - 12/22/09 06:53 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I didn't think you had it in you.


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Re: My friend that killed a cop [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #11700876 - 12/22/09 07:32 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
I didn't think you had it in you.





are you ok?
do you take meds?
and what is it just cause im from the same state as you that means you hate me?

you are a very weird character


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Have you actually seen what poledancers do?
Its not subjective, it IS erotic activity.
There are more practical ways to slide down a pole than with your legs spread and using your pussy as a brake. Ask the fire department.
[quote]fapjack said:
My grandma always said I"'d rather have a rock hard acorn being drilled into me by a man, than some soggy baguette being flicked into me by a fairy."[/quote]


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Re: My friend that killed a cop [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #11702318 - 12/22/09 10:32 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I'm too drunk to bring this any further.

But...guns are bad mmmkay,they've caused problems where there weren't so many. It's like topping up a shit sandwich with something deadly,like AIDS.

No good.


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Re: My friend that killed a cop [Re: LobsterSauce]
    #11702361 - 12/22/09 10:38 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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But...guns are bad mmmkay,they've caused problems where there weren't so many. It's like topping up a shit sandwich with something deadly,like AIDS.


If you consider the survival of the human race to be a problem, then you have a point here. :thumbup:


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Re: My friend that killed a cop [Re: Poid]
    #11702410 - 12/22/09 10:45 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

:coleman:

If you'd ever lived somewhere where guns aren't there you might agree with me,alike most non Americans.

Just because that's how it is there,doesn't mean that's the right way of doing things. It seems overly patriotic even thinking like that.


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Re: My friend that killed a cop [Re: LobsterSauce]
    #11702434 - 12/22/09 10:49 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Jimtown said:
:coleman:

If you'd ever lived somewhere where guns aren't there you might agree with me,alike most non Americans.


Well I've never lived anywhere where there aren't any guns. :suicide:



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Jimtown said:
Just because that's how it is there,doesn't mean that's the right way of doing things. It seems overly patriotic even thinking like that.


I just like to use guns, and the fact that other people own guns makes me feel unsafe about not owning one; it has nothing to do with patriotism.

:usa:


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Re: My friend that killed a cop [Re: Poid]
    #11702493 - 12/22/09 10:56 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I just like to use guns, and the fact that other people own guns makes me feel unsafe about not owning one; it has nothing to do with patriotism.

:usa:




That's kind of what I was digging at. It's all lopsy turvy I tells ya!


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Re: My friend that killed a cop [Re: LobsterSauce]
    #11702526 - 12/22/09 11:01 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

An armed citizenry is important for the maintenance of a free country.


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Re: My friend that killed a cop [Re: LobsterSauce]
    #11702550 - 12/22/09 11:03 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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:coleman:

If you'd ever lived somewhere where guns aren't there you might agree with me,alike most non Americans.





that's quite the generalization since many people from the UK and
Australia have been here to say "dont ever let them take your guns"


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Re: My friend that killed a cop [Re: RationalEgo]
    #11702553 - 12/22/09 11:04 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)



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