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#11662567 - 12/16/09 04:19 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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So,I recently moved to a dry county,and can't get alcohol unless I drive 20 miles.I have no car so this isn't an option.Anyways,I was able to procure a cheap and effective alcoholic beverage that will put your lights out,so to speak All you need is one container of walmart brand 100 percent apple juice,will cost you all of two dollars,a packet of yeast,a cup and a half of sugar,a balloon,and about five days to wait.Pretty much there is no technique to this at all.simply poor out a regular glass full of the juice,and drink it,or whatever,add in a cup and a half of sugar,shake it up really good with the top on of coursethen activate you yeast,you can read the packet for how to do so,pour it in the apple juice once activated,put top on and shake the hell out of it,then add your balloon with a lil hole punched in the tip for gas exchange.That's it.This works well for underage people who can't buy alcohol themselves,not that I condone that sort of thing You can get Drunk after only five days of waiting,but the longer you let it set,the yeast will have time to eat up all the sugar.Also,this will smell up the place your fermenting it in like a sour yeasty smell mixed with a hint of alcohol.Here are so pictures of the materials minus the sugar,because we all know what sugar looks like.You can tell I'm drinking mine a bit early from the dead yeast on the side of the bottle which I'm just too lazy to try to filter out.you guys can definitely improve on my method,and make a more palatable cleaner product.this is just the lazy mans way of getting drunk in a dry county.This concludes my process.
 
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: KBG1977]
#11662575 - 12/16/09 04:21 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Oh yeah,100 percent grape juice works a lot better,and is way more potent
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: KBG1977]
#11662602 - 12/16/09 04:25 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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awesome, i have yeast and sugar, now im going out to get some apple juice and a baloon. damn, this looks cheap and easy, id be dumb not to try it.
ill post my results in a few days
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: WalterShabas]
#11662635 - 12/16/09 04:31 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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yeah,you can also make different blends using different types of juices.The possibilities are endless.Jut don't drink the whole bottle in one sitting and smoke some weed or you'll be spinning your ass right to the toilet
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: KBG1977]
#11662964 - 12/16/09 05:30 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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i just started a batch, ill try it out monday night and let you know how it works. heres a pic
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: WalterShabas]
#11664439 - 12/16/09 09:13 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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It will work,and I'm drunk as fuck!!!!
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: KBG1977]
#11665962 - 12/17/09 01:34 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I finished brewing 4.5Liter container of self made apple juice, i have to bottle it now =]
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: dstark]
#11667719 - 12/17/09 01:32 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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fuckin awesome man thanks. my wife hates for me to buy beer at any time and now i can hide it . thanks man.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: ferrel_human]
#11670976 - 12/17/09 09:15 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks! I'm gonna try this soon
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: KBG1977]
#11671728 - 12/17/09 11:11 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Lol KBG..If I was a drinker I'd try it out.
And just because I need an excuse to use it: 
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: karode13]
#11671922 - 12/17/09 11:43 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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This is wine making t it's cheapest and simplest.
By the title I thought you had something unique to share (not that this isn't awesome, don't get me wrong).
If I missed something where this is a unique KBG Wine process please by all means tell me. I'm all about the home production, but this is pretty basic.
I tried this with different juices. I drank a quart of cheaply made homemade lemonade wine and was buzzed, but it was more like beer content than wine.
I would suggest using a more pure juice cider and then use fractional crystallization in a freezer to concentrate the alcohol...and that's only because I've been reading on it lately haha.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: RonPaulVerm]
#11672180 - 12/18/09 12:28 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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i went to walmart and bought 2 cans of juice. one orange mango and one apple. i had a big empty container of corn meal that i threw in the juice in their. i activated the yeast but i got the active dry yeast not highly active. i hope it don't make a difference. i put the lid on with a hole on the top and put it in the garage surrounded by blankets. i hope the temps aren't too cold.
does anyone know the coldest temps it can still ferment with? right it smells like bread.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: ferrel_human]
#11673372 - 12/18/09 07:28 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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During fermentation there are several factors that winemakers take into consideration. The most notable is that of the internal temperature of the must. The biochemical process of fermentation itself creates a lot of residual heat which can take the must out of the ideal temperature range for the wine. Typically white wine is fermented between 64-68 °F (18-20 °C) though a wine maker may choose to use a higher temperature to bring out some of the complexity of the wine. Red wine is typically fermented at higher temperatures up to 85 °F (29 °C). Fermentation at higher temperatures may have adverse effect on the wine in stunning the yeast to inactivity and even "boiling off" some of the flavors of the wines. Some winemakers may ferment their red wines at cooler temperatures more typical of white wines in order to bring out more fruit flavors.[7]
from wikipedia
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: WalterShabas]
#11674413 - 12/18/09 01:02 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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During fermentation there are several factors that winemakers take into consideration. The most notable is that of the internal temperature of the must. The biochemical process of fermentation itself creates a lot of residual heat which can take the must out of the ideal temperature range for the wine. Typically white wine is fermented between 64-68 °F (18-20 °C) though a wine maker may choose to use a higher temperature to bring out some of the complexity of the wine. Red wine is typically fermented at higher temperatures up to 85 °F (29 °C). Fermentation at higher temperatures may have adverse effect on the wine in stunning the yeast to inactivity and even "boiling off" some of the flavors of the wines. Some winemakers may ferment their red wines at cooler temperatures more typical of white wines in order to bring out more fruit flavors.[7]
from wikipedia
thanks man. my garage is cold right now and it seemed to do the trick. but i brought it in to the house in a bottom cabinet and its dark i have yet to check on it. thanks for the info man.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: ferrel_human]
#11692719 - 12/21/09 04:48 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Glad to see you guys got something out of this.the last batch I made fermented in only five days at about 61 degrees.I used tho think the higher the temperature the faster it would finish,but I was wrong.I wont be making any more,because I just can't handle alcohol any more,but you guys report back,and tell me how it worked for you.Oh,and RonPaulVerm I never said that this was a unique,or superb way to make wine,as we all know it's not even close.I was just showing how one could get drunk fairly cheaply from ordinary household items,or if you have no access to alcohol.I don't know why you only got a little buzz,but my shit always knocks me out cold.Also,fruit juice blends, stuff that's not pure 100 percent fruit juice,or has additives may not even work at all,or be really wek,so that could have been what happened with you mate.You have to use 100 percent juices with no additives.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: KBG1977]
#11694272 - 12/21/09 08:30 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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well i hope my stuff turns to wine and not vinegar. it is still bubbling as we sp[eak
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: ferrel_human]
#11698253 - 12/22/09 01:20 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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So my brew is on day six, but its still fizzing. I guess that means all of the sugar hasn't been converted to alcohol yet. I did give it a little taste last night, and it wasn't nearly as bad as I expected taste-wise. Tasted like I imagined apple wine would taste like. I plan on getting a little buzz off of it tomorrow night. (7 days total) I did try an experiment of my own though, after sampling the wine last night, I put a new balloon on the bottle, but didn't poke a hole in it. So now its filling up with stinky CO2. (a stink bomb/balloon) Anybody who doesn't have readily accessible alcohol, or wants to save a buck or two on booze should try this, its cheap and easy. Though I can't speak for the potency of the wine yet, I will say that it sure does have alcohol in it after my sample last night. (I bet the hangover sucks.) I'll post my thoughts on the brew tomorrow night after sampling.
Thanks again KBG
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: WalterShabas]
#11698273 - 12/22/09 01:23 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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My apple wine isn't tasting as alcoholic as I thought....I've seen more foam than this batch before.
Anybody have words on what cause low foaming. I added almost a pound of dissolved sugar as well...it's been over a week.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: WalterShabas]
#11698292 - 12/22/09 01:25 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Oh yeah, this won't be my last time doing this, I'd like to try making different brews in the future, maybe using different juices, brew containers, brew times, and yeasts, really refine this technique. I've done a bit of reading, and it seems like the biggest concerns in wine making are time, and sterility. And for someone who has grown mushrooms those are simple concerns. I think I may have gotten myself into a new hobby.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: RonPaulVerm]
#11698429 - 12/22/09 01:48 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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My apple wine isn't tasting as alcoholic as I thought....I've seen more foam than this batch before.
Anybody have words on what cause low foaming. I added almost a pound of dissolved sugar as well...it's been over a week.
thats strange, after two or three days my brew stopped foaming, but it kept on fizzing, from my experience with wine, it tasted about as potent as your average grape wine, but still fizzy. by the way, the room its been sitting in has been a constant 60-65 degrees F. how much sugar is in a pound?, i used a cup and a half like the recipe called for.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: WalterShabas]
#11700460 - 12/22/09 06:44 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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mine i think is still fizzing. i have not checked it but i will. KBG recommends 5 days but i'll let it go more. i just can't wait. i want to buy beer but i want to wait for my homemade hooch.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: ferrel_human]
#11700476 - 12/22/09 06:46 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I would say 1 lb is about 2 cups. Just a guess
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: RonPaulVerm]
#11703105 - 12/23/09 12:20 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I bottles 2 bottles, 1.5L each.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: dstark]
#11704356 - 12/23/09 06:34 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I used almost four of the exact same wal mart apple juice to fill up a 2.5 gallon jug. I made a starter for my yeast with some apple juice in a pint jar, i let this sit for 3 days, then emptied the juice and the starter into the 2.5 gallon jug.
The jug is just an empty water jug, also from wal mart.
The yeast is lalvin 1118. I'm pretty sure it's for white wine.
The jug has been fermenting for 3 days now, it's still bubbling a lot and the balloon is super puffed out. When the sugar in the juice runs out, i plan to add 4 cups of white sugar. Next time i will probably buy dextrose.
The apple wine smells like farts right now. I guess this is normal for cider made in this fashion, depending on what kind of yeast you use. Apparently it will go away in a few days or after i rack it into a second 2.5 gallon container. Underneath the sulfur/egg smell it smells pretty good, exactly like most white wine i've tried, actually.
Pretty fun experiment, could be used as a co2 generator for indoor plants i think.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: HotMess]
#11705378 - 12/23/09 12:53 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I would use some turbo yeast, you will create more potent stuff with less toxins.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: fireshaman]
#11705679 - 12/23/09 02:00 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I would use some turbo yeast, you will create more potent stuff with less toxins.
turbo yeast? wher ecan you find that? is that the highly active yeast?
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: ferrel_human]
#11705725 - 12/23/09 02:09 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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special strain with micronutrients to help it to not create toxins
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: fireshaman]
#11706580 - 12/23/09 04:41 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Oh man,that can't be good your stuff smelling like farts,and when I read that I almost pissed my pants laughing so hardAnybody who thinks of adding more sugar after it's totally done be warned it will go off like a bomb,and spew all over the place!!! I said you can get drunk after five days of fermenting,but it's best to wait until your yeast has totally eaten all of the sugar,totally.I think unless you're using wine yeast one pound of sugar is way too much for bread yeast to handle,and it will die in it's own piss so to speak.The alcohol is the(piss)byproduct of the yeast.Also,you guys knew that yeast is a fungus right???Basically a shitload of tiny mushrooms eating your sugar and turning to alcohol.No wonder some of the stuff I've made had me tripping But yeah,I can't wait to see some reports of how drunk you guys get and the hangovers become almost not as bad with time
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: KBG1977]
#11706853 - 12/23/09 05:28 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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i love yeast urine! mine smells exactly like you said KBG. like fermenting oranges. i did use orange mango and apple juice. mix it up and made a medly of yeast urine.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: ferrel_human]
#11707108 - 12/23/09 06:07 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Right on,drink up Buddy,and report back!!!
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: KBG1977]
#11707809 - 12/23/09 08:05 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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it smells super strong and i shyed away from it tonight. i'm gonna get me a sixer and maybe with a buzz i'll try it. i can't even believe it came out so strong. thanks KBG for the killer recipe.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: ferrel_human]
#11707904 - 12/23/09 08:20 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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No problem man,wish i had a sixer,but I probably don't need it
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: KBG1977]
#11710946 - 12/24/09 11:30 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Last night i was looking at the jug and decided to slosh it around in there a bit. Since there was a little room at the top this was easy to do without getting it inside the airlock (condom).
At this point it still smelled sulfury like farts or eggs.
I woke up this morning to notice some of the foam had died down and now it doesn't smell sulfury. It smells like white wine with a hint of apples. Actually it smells delicious and i can't wait to drink it. I'll probably sample it before adding sugar.
Also to the guy who said they are like little mushrooms, they're more like a liquid culture that doesn't try and clump up too much.
I have been thinking that if yeast eat sugar, and the outside of a reishi spore is covered in sugar, maybe i can crack into the spore and get the good stuff inside by fermenting it with yeast. I am curious if the medicinal stuff inside reishi spores would be damaged by alcohol or eaten by the yeast. Would be fun to make reishi substrate wine, anyways.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: HotMess]
#11716394 - 12/25/09 12:42 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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man i am still drunk from drinking my homemade hooch. last night i opened presents, ate some turkey..dranks ome vodka and then my hooch. man i was fucked up.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: ferrel_human]
#11716464 - 12/25/09 01:05 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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you guys should alternate corn syrup for the sugar  it is more soluble and converts to alcohol well! but I must say this thread takes me back this is surely one of the most primitive ways of getting loaded! since most of you already have a pressure cooker theres some threads on the shroomery on distilling your home brews using your pressure cooker and a contraption you can build to fit it to catch the condensation then you can drink homemade vodka instead of homemade hooch
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: stoner42001]
#11716645 - 12/25/09 01:57 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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well, my jug is gone, and i must say it worked. it was actually a little stronger than i expected, also it almost tasted good. i think instead of buying a bunch of beer for the next music festival i go to, ill just make a few jugs of this. much cheaper that way.
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you guys should alternate corn syrup for the sugar it is more soluble and converts to alcohol well! but I must say this thread takes me back this is surely one of the most primitive ways of getting loaded! since most of you already have a pressure cooker theres some threads on the shroomery on distilling your home brews using your pressure cooker and a contraption you can build to fit it to catch the condensation then you can drink homemade vodka instead of homemade hooch
im going to have to look into both using corn syrup instead of sugar, and distilling with a pressure cooker, thanks for the ideas
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: WalterShabas]
#11716721 - 12/25/09 02:17 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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molasses is good to add micronutrients for the yeast.
fermented grape will have less toxins than fermented apple.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: fireshaman]
#11723023 - 12/26/09 10:12 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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i'm drinking some homemade hooch. honestly tastes like boxed wine. first time i drink it without having drunk something else. lets see how this goes.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: ferrel_human]
#11723338 - 12/26/09 11:42 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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right on, i just started a new batch today, this time using white grape juice instead of apple, im curious as to how it'll taste comparatively
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: WalterShabas]
#11723894 - 12/27/09 02:12 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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well now i am fucked up. i drank it all up and i 'm drinking beer. whichich is making more fucked up. good times all.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: KBG1977]
#11728742 - 12/27/09 11:43 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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i hear unpasteurized apple cider works best for this.
I am gonna be trying this out.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: true]
#11730927 - 12/28/09 12:54 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Are you guys using bread yeast, or yeast that's actually for making wine?
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: true]
#11730950 - 12/28/09 12:59 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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true said:
i hear unpasteurized apple cider works best for this.
I am gonna be trying this out.
Well i bought apples, made a juice from them, but i did pasturize... its not like you buy apple juice in a bottle and its pretty sterile.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: dstark]
#11731028 - 12/28/09 01:17 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yesterday I picked up some Welches grape juice and some white grape cherry. I also got the same yeast op used. Is this fine or should i get like some champange yeast instead. Cant wait to try this out. How bad will it smell and how noticable is it?? Just wondering if i should do it here or at my gfs house 
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: KBG1977]
#11740574 - 12/30/09 01:41 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Here is my setup, which I started on 12/23 after seeing this thread.
They all taste really good! I am actually pretty surprised by the flavor. I thought it would be all ghetto, but they are more like fine wines/hard cider.
I am using Montrachet yeast that I got for $1 at the local brewing store.
When I started I put in a bunch of sugar, and they were too sweet for awhile. Now they are starting to be more drinkable. I made one batch with just apple juice and yeast, no sugar, and that one is my favorite so far. Its a hard apple cider.
They are bubbling away, and the carbonation tastes really good.
The cherry cider is really good, the mango-passionfruit is excellent, and the apple juice came out really well too.
I usually drink beer but I have switched to this home made stuff entirely now. It tastes a lot better than beer, is stronger, cheaper, less glass bottles and it doesn't make my breath smell bad like beer does.
I just went juice shopping at trader joes, for the next round I will be using blackberry juice, blueberry, mango-passionfruit, dixie peach and mango-mangosteen.
For the airlock I am using old nitrous balloons, sterilized with isopropanol. I have heard that you don't really need an airlock for the primary fermentation, and for the first few days its better to just place a clean cloth over the top to keep the dust out. I will try it that way soon, maybe.
The yeast I am using stops at 10% alcohol, which seems to be enough, but I have ordered some other more aggressive yeast from ebay that can go up to 18%.
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Nice Alan,glad to see you all got something out of thisI think I may start up some new batches using different fruit juice mixes,to see what mad flavor I can create.Forget expensive beer,and Liquor when you can get drunk as hell on this stuff for a few cents,right
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 Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: WalterShabas]
#11764931 - 01/04/10 03:29 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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This thread inspired me. I got the exact same cherry cider that Alan got, and the exact same yeast KGB got. I'll keep y'all updated.
Upon looking into it further, corn syrup is a good idea. I used cane sugar which apparently has an apple like flavor as a byproduct. Honey is also supposed to be good. Anything sugary
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: DeeGee]
#11766082 - 01/04/10 06:21 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yep,and good luck man
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: KBG1977]
#11770958 - 01/05/10 06:06 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ive been doing a little research. Back in the olden days they would pasteurize the wine for a few minutes to kill off any residual yeast and bacteria for prolonged storage.
Nowadays they use potassium sorbate and or sodium bisulfate to render the yeast sterile and rely on sterile techniques and no rinse sanitizers to keep unwanted bacteria out. Thought i would share
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: preschooler]
#11771144 - 01/05/10 06:32 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: trendal]
#11786546 - 01/07/10 11:20 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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So i'm finally consuming my fortified cider. It's actually quite good, i think i might let it age a little in some bottles.
It's a pretty classy drunk. I like it a lot better than beer or wine from the store. It's not headachey at all.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: HotMess]
#11786893 - 01/08/10 12:35 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Right on guys,I knew this thread wold be useful to somebodyAnd yes blewmeanie,I use bread yeast
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: KBG1977]
#11787193 - 01/08/10 01:41 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm 4 days into it and I'm really excited. It's still a-fizzin
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: DeeGee]
#11788951 - 01/08/10 01:15 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I bought some welches frozen grape concentrate. I'll probably try that next. Gonna buy some wine bottles and a corker too.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: HotMess]
#11788993 - 01/08/10 01:23 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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that welches frozen concentrate was the first juice I ever used to make it with,and is the most potent too
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: KBG1977]
#11789393 - 01/08/10 02:41 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Right on guys,I knew this thread wold be useful to somebody;)And yes blewmeanie,I use bread yeast
Get some wine yeast, you'll have some serious drink. I buy 5 packets at a time off ebay and it is about 50-75 cents a piece after shipping. And one is good for 5gal or more if you make a yeast starter. Premier cuvee or ec-1118 are great.  
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: desertturtle]
#11789586 - 01/08/10 03:13 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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you can send me some,we don't have it here
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: KBG1977]
#11790089 - 01/08/10 04:30 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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You don't have to have it there, because it's on ebay, amazon, any mail order place. I use ec-1118, i can't imagine using bread yeast would get you that much alcohol, if you wanna get real crocked then use wine yeast, not bread yeast.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: KBG1977]
#11805541 - 01/11/10 01:29 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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After a bit of searching, I found out that specialized yeast varieties can tolerate much higher alcohol content than ordinary baker's yeast, so I snagged some Pasteur champagne yeast (rather cheap), which reportedly is capable of yielding 14-16% ABV prison wine. I'm using 2 cups sugar, since more sugar = more booze, up to a certain point, and a $1.50 airlock to compare with the balloon method. The airlock comes with the added bonus of providing entertainment, since the part within it moves up and down while spewing bubbles periodically.
If it doesn't taste terrible, I'm thinking about freeze-distilling it to make it more potent and perhaps even more chuggable.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: ButtWizard]
#11809881 - 01/11/10 07:47 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think I'm going to go tomorrow and pick up some juice and yeast.I'm so bored sitting around with nothing to doGetting drunk always cures the boredomWay to go ButtWizard,hehe.Tell us how it turns out.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: KBG1977]
#11811406 - 01/11/10 11:16 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I would have thought that these would taste terrible, I might just have to try this. So as long as you have some sort of airlock, the juice won't get moldy or nasty from just sitting around at room temp?
I have also heard about people making moonshine (which is probably a very different process, but I know little about alcohol in general) and having to do something to prevent or get rid of methanol. Does anyone have a clue what I am talking about? Is there no risk of producing methanol tainted booze with this method?
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: fear.loathingSF]
#11811689 - 01/11/10 11:58 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think you're reasonably safe from contamination by bacteria and other fungi if you're adding your sugar and yeast straight into a store-bought container, which should be clean. Once your yeast have used up most of the oxygen and resort to fermentation, it's a very high CO2/low oxygen environment, which will prevent just about anything else from growing in there. Also, you use so much yeast to start the process that they will probably out-compete any other microorganisms that make their way in. But I'm sure there is some risk, which is why some large-scale brewers boil their mix and add sulfites. I also remember from another thread here that drinks with something like 14% alcohol by volume and higher will be contaminant-free by virtue of their alcohol content. It wouldn't be a bad idea, though, to refrigerate once it's done fermenting or maybe even to boil it for a few minutes if you're really concerned.
There's no risk of methanol poisoning using this method. The issue only arises when you're distilling your product. The methanol comes from pectin in the fruit juice, and is there before you even add the yeast; it's not produced by fermentation. When you distill, you'll concentrate this methanol along with the ethanol, since they both boil at low temperatures, although it's common practice to discard the first runs, which contain the most methanol. I'm pretty sure you could even drink an improperly distilled drink and be fine. I couldn't find a single news report of someone being harmed by a home-distilled drink. I'm fairly certain that the source of this methanol poisoning rumor comes from lazy rogue spirit makers who had used denatured alcohol, which is very cheap and contains harmful amounts of methanol along with ethanol, to boost the alcohol content of their products.
http://homedistiller.org/methanol.htm
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: ButtWizard]
#11817814 - 01/12/10 09:55 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I may finally join the elite ranks of the inebriated.
I used the same yeast as KBG, and the cherry cider from Trader Joes that Alan has.
It took nine days and it was still bubbling a little, but very, very slowly.
It's marvelous. Tastes almost exactly like a fine red wine. I'd rate the alcohol content the same too, probably 10 ABV. Btw the ingredients for the cider is filtered water (sufficient to reconstitute), concentrated apple, cherry, plum, and pineapple juice, natural flavors, red grape skin extract (for color)
Things I would do different:
1)Somehow eliminate the yeasty taste. Perhaps adding less yeast? Would that even work or does it multiply in presence of delicious sugarfood? I don't know.
2)Put it in the fridge the day before I planned on drinking it. It seems so obvious now.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: DeeGee]
#11818658 - 01/12/10 11:57 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f39/finish-my-first-batch-why-slightly-yeasty-taste-80991/
Yeast multiply before they run out of oxygen and start fermenting, so the amount you add does not equal the final amount of yeast you end up with. I don't know about those Highly Active baker's yeast packets, but the directions on my champagne yeast packets indicate that one packet is good for 5 gallons, so you only need 1/10 packet for a 2 qt jug of juice. Maybe even less. Yeast sales are a business, after all.
Folks in that thread have said that you show chill your brew for a few days to allow the yeast to settle before serving. I've seen siphoning off the top, and the use of paper filter on YooToob to deyeastify. No personal experiece on the matter (yet).
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: ButtWizard]
#11819884 - 01/13/10 03:42 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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The wine yeast packets say they're good for 5 gallons, take several quart jars and fill them with boiling sugar water(it is good to add some teabags and lemon juice or something for nutrients). Split the yeast packet between your jars once they cool and wait 36-48hrs. One of the quart jars will start fermentation for 5gal+ of juice/must. You can keep your other yeast starters in the fridge for awhile. Yeast packets are pretty cheap, but you can get gallons and gallons of wine from one if you plan ahead. I wouldn't recommend using bread yeast.
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you can send me some,we don't have it here
If you call this "KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!!" think of what you can name it when you use some good yeast. But seriously, I'm gonna send you some premier cuvee when im not so poor.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: desertturtle]
#11820530 - 01/13/10 10:26 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Right on man,love the turtle,I have one too
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#11821908 - 01/13/10 03:02 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Update:
That kicked my ass last night. I may even venture to say it was, "too strong." Not because of the flavor, but because I got so wasted.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: DeeGee]
#11827344 - 01/14/10 11:06 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah,I hate to admit it,but the shit is so strong that it's not even a good buzz
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: KBG1977]
#11831670 - 01/14/10 11:15 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well,I'm not going to say that it isn't a good buzz,it just makes you feel kinda hazy the next dayAnybody that would like to donate some actual wine yeast to my cause feel free too.I can't get it any where around here because this is a dry county,and would love to have some yeast for actually making wine rather than bread
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: blewmeanie]
#11843129 - 01/16/10 08:51 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Are you guys using bread yeast, or yeast that's actually for making wine?
i used bread yeast. the local carrier of wine yeast didn't have any stock. oh well. its better than nothing but i hear wine yeast makes better alcohol.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: ferrel_human]
#11843234 - 01/16/10 09:08 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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hate to be a noob, but when using a balloon as an airlock, should it be decently inflated? i've got a gallon of 100 percent apple i
started up on jan 6 with some red star cuvee, balloon seems kinda limp after adding a half cup of sugar a day or two ago. i did the same
with a gallon of apple in a carlo rossi jug with an airlock, haven't seen the inner piece of the airlock float up though.. just a bunch of
bubbles in the airlock water itself.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: GroovyBunny]
#11845343 - 01/17/10 05:04 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm not familiar with cuvee, but that seems kind of unusual to me from what I've read. Did you activate the yeast in sugar water before adding it to your juice? Mine took a couple of days before it really started to kick off some major bubble action, but 11 days seems like a bit much.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: ButtWizard]
#11845368 - 01/17/10 05:18 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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nope, i didn't activate in sugar water, i've got a bunch of packs so i'll probably start a batch that way today. i'm not extremely worried about the
two gallons i've got going now... they are bubbling pretty consistently, just not enough to show any action in the balloon/ airlock. man i can't
wait to try this stuff!
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#11846371 - 01/17/10 12:44 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I saw pomegranate wine at the store last night "fermented with 100% pomegranate juice." I was like, "Screw that, I'll just make my own."
So I did.
Added all the sugar I had in my house (little less than a cup)
Special yeast compliments of ButtWizard
Groovy-
I don't know how much sugar the yeast needs so maybe the fact that you added your sugar only 2 days ago has some effect on it. I'd think the juice would be sugary enough, we just add more to get it more boozey
Btw, my first balloon was super inflated. I had to add a couple more pinhole size holes on it to keep it the inflation size of the pic above. 3 or 4 holes total.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: DeeGee]
#11847894 - 01/17/10 05:56 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nice man,can't wait to hear how that tastes
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: KBG1977]
#11848861 - 01/17/10 08:35 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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walmart has some apple juice jugs for two bucks!! i don't think i'll be able to walk into my closet if i keep starting new batches lol
Edited by GroovyBunny (01/17/10 08:46 PM)
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: GroovyBunny]
#11849735 - 01/17/10 11:21 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yep,that's the ones I get,and you can't beat the price
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: KBG1977]
#11850690 - 01/18/10 02:18 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I just finished up my batch of apple. It tasted pretty good and was real strong Next up is grape.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: armadillo]
#11851699 - 01/18/10 09:57 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Grape will kick your ass
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: KBG1977]
#11854432 - 01/18/10 07:07 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ok, im on the wagon too and fermenting for three days now.
2.00 apple juice from the wallyworld....yay ...can't wait to try my home brew
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: preschooler]
#11854543 - 01/18/10 07:24 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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it really is fun,and cheap
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: KBG1977]
#11870277 - 01/21/10 03:56 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Here is mine
The ballon on the right went nuts after I added sugar lol.
Also using 48 hr turbo yeast as recommended earlier, will post results 
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: KBG1977]
#11870453 - 01/21/10 06:31 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mine turned out pretty decent. Ive got some filtering right now.
Holy shit this stuff packs a punch. Maybe I put in too much yeast and made it too strong.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: MisterMuscaria]
#11870872 - 01/21/10 10:05 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I told you Guys the shit is strong
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: KBG1977]
#11870878 - 01/21/10 10:09 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I did not put any air exchange on mine because I like it slightly carbonated.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: MisterMuscaria]
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Here is some of mine. I did some things a little different. Poured my juice into a crock pot with some cinnamon sticks after fermenting and brought up to 120 f. Stirred until most of the carbonation stopped Then cooled and let sit. Bottled with an old wine bottle and cork.
I tried some hot but it tasted like poo in my mouth.
But after one night of cooling and settling it actually tasted damn good. Im gonna try some grape and more apple juice next.
One thing i did notice is that the solution was starting to clear at the top of the wine bottle, so if i let sit for another week or more i think it would eventually turn clean because all the stuff would float to the bottom. Being the yeast would be dead because of the pasteurization.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: preschooler]
#11874407 - 01/21/10 08:08 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah,I left a cup of it out overnight,and by the next morning you could see that the wine was clear,and the dead yeast settled at the bottom.I'm going to get off my lazy ass in the morning,and start up a new batch
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: KBG1977]
#11875330 - 01/21/10 10:28 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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And yes blewmeanie,I use bread yeast
I wonder how bread yeast compares to wine yeast.
I ordered some Lalvin ec-1118 from ebay, it seems pretty good. It can go up to 18% alcohol and is very tolerant of temperature / other issues. Tastes about the same as Montrachet.
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So as long as you have some sort of airlock, the juice won't get moldy or nasty from just sitting around at room temp?
Actually most of the winemanking teks say that the primary fermentation requires oxygen, and they say you should just put a clean cloth over the top of the bottle to keep the dust out. I haven't tried that yet, what I am doing now is just putting the cap on top but only screwing it on a tiny bit so it stays there but doesn't seal. If I screw it on too much it will explode of course.
They use airlocks for the secondary fermentation.
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Things I would do different:
1)Somehow eliminate the yeasty taste. Perhaps adding less yeast? Would that even work or does it multiply in presence of delicious sugarfood? I don't know.
The yeast dies and settles to the bottom after its done, so waiting longer should help remove the yeast taste.
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walmart has some apple juice jugs for two bucks!! i don't think i'll be able to walk into my closet if i keep starting new batches lol
I got a couple of those, they are fermenting well.
I also tried Trader Joes Blackberry juice. It tastes good but makes tons of floating sediment that needs to be filtered out.
I made some with peach juice and mangosteen juice. The peach turned out kind of wierd, mangosteen was good. My favorite juice so far is the blueberry estate from trader joes.
The temperature affects the fermentation speed a lot! Leave it on top of the fridge or somewhere warm. I have half of mine on top of the water heater and the other half on top of the furnace because I got tired of having my kitchen look like a bum's brewery. Doesn't appear to get too hot.
Also it improves a lot the longer you wait, but its also kind of good right at the beginning when its really carbonated.
Using just apple juice with no added sugar makes hard apple cider, maybe 5% alcohol. Still pretty good, but it gets too dry for my taste after awhile. Its fun to taste them a little bit each day and taste them getting stronger and dryer. If its too dry I add a little sugar right before I drink it.
I got some apple cider that looked great, added sugar and yeast and started it. After a few days it wasn't bubbling and tasted just like regular apple cider. After reading the ingredients I see why - They added Sodium benzonate and Potassium sorbate. Make sure to check the ingredients before you buy it, ascorbic acid is ok.
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I also ordered the Lalvin EC-1118. Hopefully itll be here tomorrow.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: MisterMuscaria]
#11887903 - 01/23/10 11:50 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Update: I notice the cloth thing for the start works better with smaller amounts of yeast.
Also, for the EC-1118, in activating it...I put it in warm water then what, strain it out? Or pour both water and yeast into the juice?
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#11919379 - 01/28/10 07:02 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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This guy:
= huge success
It tastes.... really alcoholy. Don't know if it is the special ButtWizard yeast or not, but it packs a punch. Not as tasty as the cherry cider, but tasty in it's own way. Nice cranberry taste. If you like cranberry juice like me, making cranberry wine sounds awesome.
Does anyone else's mouth go slightly numb upon early tastes of their booze or is it just me?
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: DeeGee]
#11921095 - 01/29/10 12:05 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nice, I just cracked my bottle of Knudsen pomegranate.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: MisterMuscaria]
#11935874 - 01/31/10 03:42 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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it's not just you DeeGeeI still haven't made it to the grocery to get my juice yet.I'm dying to try out the ButtWizard's yeast
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: KBG1977]
#11935925 - 01/31/10 03:53 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm going to try adding the wine yeast to regular apple juice with maybe like 1/2cup of honey added.
I'll let you know how it goes.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: ButtWizard]
#11967991 - 02/05/10 12:29 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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My hooch finished fermenting a week or two ago. They definitely improve in flavour by resting in the refrigerator. I guess it makes sense, since almost all wine is aged for at least a few months before hitting the shelves.
The one brewed with the fancy airlock definitely tastes better.
One of the bottles had a little over 2 cups of sugar added to it, and it was still sweet after fermentation. The other only had about 1 and 3/4 cup sugar, and it was rather dry, so I'd say that the Pasteur Champagne yeast can handle up to about 1 and 3/4 cup sugar per quart of juice.
Both were strong. Surprisingly strong. I got tore up off of two glasses of the sweet one.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: ButtWizard]
#11968027 - 02/05/10 12:34 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Both my blueberry and cherry made with the EC-1118 wine yeast and organic florida crystal sugar turned out superb! My best batch yet...this stuff is sale quality.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: MisterMuscaria]
#11985426 - 02/08/10 01:19 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have some new batches that have been going for a few days now,one regular apple,and an apple blend.All are 100 percent pure juice.The fermentation is bubbling like mad,and there is virtually no smell whatsoever.I used the red star Champagne yeast,and I've noticed when I use bread yest the smell is so strong one bottle fermenting will stink up a whole room.Oh how I can't wait to try these out!!! I'll let you guys know how they turn out soon
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: KBG1977]
#11985888 - 02/08/10 03:23 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey, you got those at Wal-mart!
I tried that stuff too, it works but the ones where I used Treetop apple juice came out way better.
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I was going to get that exact apple juice, but the Tree Top brand was actually cheaper than Great Value. Go figure.
Speaking of which, it just finished bubbling when I checked on it this morning. I used ~half a cup of honey prior to adding the pasteur champagne yeast. My last batches I've been using 1.5 cups, and 1 cup of raw sugar. That turned out to be a little too strong for me. Tasted good, but knocked me out.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: DeeGee]
#11986606 - 02/08/10 10:52 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Of course I got them at Walmart Alan Great Value is my brand of choice from all foods and drinks there.I'll have to look for the treetop brand,I've never seen it here.Nice DeeGee,How long was your total fermentation???
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#11988814 - 02/08/10 05:42 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Extremely short period of time. ButtWizard came over and helped me install the 1-way valve 8 days ago.
I'm going to sip on it tonight. I've been together with my girlfriend for exactly three years now.
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Maybe it wasn't finished... I just decided to shake it up a bit to get the settled yeast on the bottom mixed around before I put it in the fridge. It almost blew up. The plastic container fizzed like mad and became bulbous and protruding. I had to put the 1way valve back on (after spilling a bunch)
My last batch was made with a glass container so I put the cap on and put it in the fridge. It turned into a sparkling wine. It was 
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: DeeGee]
#11989943 - 02/08/10 08:01 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Congrats,and yeah,it wasn't done.I try and filter out that dead yeast,it's nasty
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: KBG1977]
#11993730 - 02/09/10 09:29 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I didn't read through this whole thread...
But, have you tried this out with some turbo yeast? That shit is done in only a few days, and makes some pretty good drank.
IDK how much I would need to use...I've only ever made 5 gallons at a time with it lol, but its certainly worth looking into for a cheap way to get hammered. And I bet it would taste 10x better than just water and sugar and yeast...
Edit: Fuck, I should have read the thread I guess >_<; So, how much turbo yeast per liter of juice then? Like a table spoon?
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: RasJeph]
#11994554 - 02/09/10 12:54 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Where can one acquire turbo yeast??? Oh,and I was reading back through all the posts on here,and I stated I wouldn't be making anymore because I can't handle alcohol,well,of course I lied.this shit is too much fun,and cheap too.I'm going to start up more batches soon.I'm going to have a whole closet full of wine,Ahahahaha
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: KBG1977]
#11997917 - 02/09/10 09:16 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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My apple cider tastes like if Strongbow made a "Light" version and I left it out and it became flat.
It's very un-alcoholic.
Next time I'm definitely adding at least a cup of sugar
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: DeeGee]
#11998233 - 02/09/10 10:10 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah,the more sugar the more alcohol content
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: KBG1977]
#12000254 - 02/10/10 07:26 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I pick up my turbo yeast at a local brew store, but you can order it online as well...its rather cheap, and really fast and good. I use the "alcotec" version.
To be honest, I'm 20 years old and broke as fuck. So, I can't afford to buy my own booze, and, even if I could afford it, I HATE pestering people to buy it for me. Fuck that. I've been drinking since I was like 12 (not proud, just stating.)
So, a few friends and I pool our money and buy a bunch of the turbo yeast...we usually do 5 gallons of water, 15 lbs of sugar, 1 pack of yeast. Its done in a week, but we let it settle for another week (trying some of that "clearing" stuff this time around.) We end up just flavoring it with those kool-aid singles (1 per liter) and its not TERRIBLE when you cut it half and half with sprite or something similar. Problem is, you need to drink a liter of it to get as drunk as I like to be (which is 2 liters, if you count the sprite).
Actually, the first night of testing was disastrous. I jammed 2 of my fingers really bad, a buddy of mine had sex with an underage girl, and my other buddy broke his leg "Dukes of Hazarding over a car hood"  We each drank like 2 liters of it, straight, because we didn't know its power yet. We try to warn people who haven't tried it yet...but it seems like EVERYONE gets burned by it. Another friend who tried it couldn't see his mom who was literally 2 feet in front of him, and he woke up between his bed and the wall with 9th grade text books open like he was doing 5 year old homework!
Edit: Almost forgot! I mixed up some of this stuff yesterday with some apple juice and turbo yeast and sugar. I did it by weight (so hopefully that was right)...it ended up being 14 grams of 48 hour turbo yeast / liter.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: RasJeph]
#12002671 - 02/10/10 03:59 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I didnt read through the whole thread but if this link was posted i apologize: http://plaza.ufl.edu/scott28/wine.html
I definitely have to try this sometime
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: Kingofdiamonds]
#12003777 - 02/10/10 06:52 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'd really like to try distilling. I was all FUCK YEAH GO FOR IT yesterday and today, but, now I've been discouraged by people on a distilling forum.
They say my still design is too ghetto. 
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: RasJeph]
#12003807 - 02/10/10 06:59 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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You will be boiling ethanol, so if you have a leak and some source of ignition outside, you'll blow some shit up.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: ButtWizard]
#12004246 - 02/10/10 08:16 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I just made this guy up a few minutes ago.
I added a lot more honey this time, and some corn syrup
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: DeeGee]
#12004960 - 02/10/10 10:05 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I started a gallon of fruit punch Kool-Aid® with 2-3 cups of sugar. It will be delicious and refreshing.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: ButtWizard]
#12007706 - 02/11/10 10:52 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Good story RasJeph and,that white cranberry peach should be delecious DeeGeeI've never tried kool aid before wizard,do you think it will work well???
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: KBG1977]
#12010729 - 02/11/10 07:35 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ever since I first read this thread I've been wanting to try Gatorade or a sports drink to get my hydration as I booze the night away. I didn't actually check the ingredients of sports drinks yet to make sure its possible. I don't have much hope though
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: KBG1977]
#12010974 - 02/11/10 08:08 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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The Brewl-Aid is off to a slow start. I saw my first bubble about 40 hours after the addition of yeast. The Pasteur Champagne yeast will ferment it dry, so I'm gonna add sugar once it's done to sweeten it and cap it to add carbonation. I predict deliciousness.
I got a bottle of Gatorade ®, The Thirst Quencher ™. There are no anti-fungal ingredients, so you can brew away. It will be an alcoholic's dream. 
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: ButtWizard]
#12012062 - 02/11/10 10:25 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Don't use gatorade,trust me.I tried it before,and it came out tasting and smelling like the foulest thing you can put in your mouth,or smell.Plus there was no alcohol content at all.I drank a few cups,and got deathly sick.Don't do it!!!
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: KBG1977]
#12014204 - 02/12/10 07:54 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Here is my current operation:
I got the treetop on sale cheap, $1.79 each. Added some maltodextrin (so its still sweet after the sugar is gone), yeast nutrient, ec-1118, and sugar. Instead of an airlock I just leave the cap unscrewed a little bit.
Leaving it on the water heater keeps it warm, but not too warm.
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Nice Alan,I think I'll stick with my bread yeast.I was looking forward into drinking today,and mine still isn't done.I used red star Champagne yeast this time.It's still bubbling like mad,and I started it exactly a week ago.Hell,by day five with the bread yeast,the shit is almost done
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: KBG1977]
#12016980 - 02/12/10 06:35 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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My turbo yeast one doesn't look anything like the stuff you guys have here...its crazy cloudy...prolly because of the yeast to liquid ratio.
It takes like 2 table spoons of that stuff for my 2 liter jug.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: RasJeph]
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I take that back,I Love Red star yeast!!! it kicked my ass
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: KBG1977]
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Hell yeah. Champagne yeast brews up some riot juice. Also, this summarizes my thoughts on the taste prison wine made with baker's yeast:
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: ButtWizard]
#12037987 - 02/16/10 03:33 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Here is a picture of the yeast at work, 1000x, stained with melzers reagent.
This is Saccharomyces bayanus from a packet of Lalvin EC-1118.
See also http://mushroomobserver.org/33646
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Hell yeah. Champagne yeast brews up some riot juice.
LOL YES! Thats what we call ours! Riot Punch! (Always Sunny)
Heres my apple juice after 1 week of fermenting with the 48 hour turbo...
This 48 hour shit isn't settling AT ALL. Fuck it, I'm going back to the 24 hour. The jugs in the background are just sugar-yeast-water, but they're going on 2 weeks now
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That's great. Do you own your own microscope and reagents, or do have access to some type of facility?
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#12041798 - 02/16/10 08:08 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I just re-used my yeast successfully. This could be handy for those with yeast in short supply. You know the ring of sediment at the bottom of your container after brewing? Well, I just tossed in some leftover juice (juices actually, 1/2 apple + 1/2 cran), shook it up, and after a day it is already bubbling rapidly. In fact, it already had a detectable alcohol odor.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: ButtWizard]
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So...my turbo yeast wine has cleared up nicely. It smells terrible. I don't wanna drink it at all.
I just stuck it outside in the snow bank to freeze it in the hopes of maybe getting some apple jack from it.
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#12078972 - 02/22/10 07:46 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Just like in the good ol' colonial times (if you live in the US). I tried to do the same with my wine, but it froze through. I guess you have to remove it from the cold at just the right time, while only a layer on top is frozen.
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Just like in the good ol' colonial times (if you live in the US). I tried to do the same with my wine, but it froze through. I guess you have to remove it from the cold at just the right time, while only a layer on top is frozen.
Ah fuck. Mine will be out all night. I'll just give it a go again tomorrow then. 
Edit: Well...I retrieved it from the snowbank this morning, and it wasn't frozen AT ALL.  Maybe the trubo yeast made it too high % alcohol. I put it in the freezer, I'll let you know if it works in there.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: RasJeph]
#12087587 - 02/24/10 10:27 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nice pics Alan,and nice work Guys,I just started up a batch of pink grapefruit wine,it should be really yummyI tried just straight sugar water and yeast before,and it was still fermenting at three weeks.I tried a sip after three weeks,and it was still sweet,and tasted worse than the Gatorade wine I tried to make.Good luck with that shit.I'd rather drink mouthwash to get drunk
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: KBG1977]
#12088995 - 02/24/10 03:17 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well...we take the turbo yeast, and sugar water, and then wait for it to get settled. Once its settled, we siphon it into bottles, and then use one of those "Hawaiian punch" singles thing to flavor it.
Its really not too good. We cut it with sprite or something to make it tolerable. I won't be doing it for much longer. I'm only (almost) 20, so I have another year of drinking this crap, then its on to the good stuff lol.
Also - my apple jack...hooboy. It tasted terrible, but it made my whole mouth fucking numb haha. I couldn't even drink it.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: RasJeph]
#12090639 - 02/24/10 07:56 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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My turned out real good.
I've noticed all the wines have a similar taste. The unique portion of this one was real good. Tasted like white cranberry peach juice. Go figure
I've also noticed all the wines tend to put me to sleep (knock me out).
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: DeeGee]
#12090988 - 02/24/10 08:51 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've noticed all the wines have a similar taste.
That comes from your yeast.
If you bottle it and let it age, the taste changes quite a bit.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: desertturtle]
#12091516 - 02/24/10 10:21 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah,that shit knocks me out after a few cups too,and I sleep for hours,and hours.wonder why that is???
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: KBG1977]
#12116849 - 02/28/10 11:58 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Im starting a batch tonight seems like a fun project! I picked up a bottle of 100% pure apple cider style apple juice and some highly active yeast, ill post results in a week or so when finished!
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: SilkyB]
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: ButtWizard]
#12129747 - 03/02/10 08:50 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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The 3 parts apple + 1 part cranberry cider turned out to be quite tasty. It has a distinct pink color to it. I added a couple tbsp sugar after fermentation had stopped and capped the container to carbonate it. After a few days, the sides had bulged out, as if the container was about to explode, so I probably added a little too much. On the plus side, the cider was super fizzy and delicious, and I still have all my fingers in tact!
I also started 5 gallons of English pale ale, but that's probably best for another thread.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: ButtWizard]
#12131939 - 03/03/10 02:18 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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My batch still has a few days to go but im just curious, how do all you guys filter out the yeast and sediment at the end?
I was going to try to strain it through a coffee filter or something but not sure what would be the best method! 
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: SilkyB]
#12132130 - 03/03/10 03:06 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think the correct way is to siphon your wine away from all the nasty crap.
But I just pour it off. The end turns out kind of bad, so I leave a bit in there.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: SilkyB]
#12133236 - 03/03/10 11:27 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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My batch still has a few days to go but im just curious, how do all you guys filter out the yeast and sediment at the end?
I was going to try to strain it through a coffee filter or something but not sure what would be the best method!
I put it in the fridge, the yeast will "fall asleep" and sink to the bottom, afterward its easy
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: dstark]
#12134642 - 03/03/10 03:29 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ah those methods sound better and easier, thanks for the tips 
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: SilkyB]
#12144154 - 03/04/10 08:39 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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My newest and most promising batch is no longer as promising. It has a little black circle on the top that floats.
Possible contam.?
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: DeeGee]
#12148521 - 03/05/10 03:00 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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The ones that I made on top of my furnace finished quickly and cleared within a week, but they taste bad.
The ones I made on my water heater don't get nearly so warm and turned out much better.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: DeeGee]
#12151764 - 03/06/10 02:20 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've never had a contam myself, since I simply won't be caught ridin' dirtay, but from what I've read on certain Internets, contamination in home brewing is surprisingly rare. I believe contamination almost always imparts a flavor to your brew best described as "raunchy."
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: ButtWizard]
#12157197 - 03/07/10 03:08 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Success! It's been just about a week since i started and the fizzing almost slowed to a stop but not completly, in my apple cider/highly active yeast/sugar mixture, i just filtered it and drank my first glass.
It's way stronger than i expected, but not bad at all! It tastes to me like a high gravity beer mixed with apple juice, with a slight after taste of bread, and i can tell after a few glasses it will definitely get you drunk, as im already starting to feel a buzz but im a bit of an alcohol light weight since i haven't drank at all in a few weeks or a month at least!  
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: SilkyB]
#12159797 - 03/07/10 05:56 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Good job guys,I'm going for juice in a couple of days.Time for the next batch
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: KBG1977]
#12173035 - 03/09/10 09:01 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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ok so after reading this a few days ago i decided i would give it a go.
i started out with one normal sized soup pot and filled it almost all the way up and got the water boiling i then added one whole bear jug of honey and 6 oranges cut into slices.
after a few minuets crust like stuff floated to the top and i scraped that off and out in the sink. after an hour of boiling and scraping honey impurity's off i strained the oranges out and let cool to be put in a gallon jug. then added the yeast and this is the end of day 5 of fermenting with the bread yeast and it seems close to being done
i only made a little more than a 1/5th of a gallons worth
this is more of a test to see how good home made mead taste my next one will get some spices boiled in with it if i feel that i want to try to make if taste better
on a side note i think it will taste fair because the smell is well for lack of better terms it smells good
ok so today i racked the mead into three different water bottles
and from what i have read its only 3 or 4 weeks away from clearing up
i also started a whole gallon of grapefruit/raisin/cranberry wine
it has a pinkish color to it while the mead has a yellow orange color i have a bunch of fruit trees and i now know what to do with all the fruit that i cant give away (make booze) instead of letting them fall the the ground for my dogs to eat or rot or thrown in the yard waste
cant wait for the plums and persimmons come in
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: simbad42]
#12213338 - 03/16/10 05:15 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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one of my Buddy's tried it a few years ago. he said if you put it in the freezer the water will freeze but the alcohol will not. then you can remove the ice at the top and have a stronger drink. cheerz
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: xXColeXx]
#12214236 - 03/16/10 07:38 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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one of my Buddy's tried it a few years ago. he said if you put it in the freezer the water will freeze but the alcohol will not. then you can remove the ice at the top and have a stronger drink. cheerz
I heard about that too, my friend called it turning the Apple Wine into "Apple Jack" haha , I might just have to try that on my next batch!
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: SilkyB]
#12219922 - 03/17/10 07:01 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ive got some blueberry pomegranate filtering now. I siphoned it than filtered it.
Im doing this too see which is more efficient...siphoning first filtering later or filtering first siphoning later.
I also tried just siphoning andjust filtering. Filtering takes forever siphoning is efficient till you get down to the very bottom.
Perhaps Ill siphon the top 3/4 and filter the last 1/4.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: MisterMuscaria]
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how are you filtering it?
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: desertturtle]
#12266761 - 03/25/10 01:06 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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You should also try your fermentations with different yeasts. Red Star makes a great one called Premier Cuvee which generally doesn't produce all the gross smelling sulfur oxides and hydrogen sulfide gasses, so its great if you're fermenting in a small place and don't want your room/closet/whatever to smell like shit. Different yeasts impart unique flavors to the same substrates as well, so it's good to experiment until you find both a medium and a yeast you're content with.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: WeBeBad]
#12273743 - 03/26/10 01:31 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes, premier cuvee is great, but I ran out I have learned that if you are going to use 'baker's yeast' the active dry yeast is much better than the rapid rise or bread machine yeast. Also, grape juice and cranberry juice fermented out nicely, while the other juices I tried did not.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: desertturtle]
#12295728 - 03/29/10 11:50 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've done some extensive brewing in the past .. find a brew store in town or online really inexpensive and get a better yeast you'll be alot happier and better tasting and refined product .. for ciders and such a champanine yeast is best. And their are wine yeasts different yeast for ports and lagers.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: WeBeBad]
#12296835 - 03/30/10 03:25 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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You should also try your fermentations with different yeasts.
Agreed.
Ec-1118 can make stronger wine, but the stuff I did with montrachet tastes much better.
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you guys think this yeast will work out OK? (Fleischmanns RapidRise "highley active" yeast
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: notch]
#12453333 - 04/25/10 02:10 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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A few folks in this thread have already tried that type of yeast. It definitely works, but fancy yeast will give you a tastier batch of prison wine.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: notch]
#12454310 - 04/25/10 04:58 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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you guys think this yeast will work out OK? (Fleischmanns RapidRise "highley active" yeast
Yep I used that exact same yeast with apple cider and sugar and it came out quite strong and not all that bad tasting, but probably not the best tasting either haha as ButtWizard stated below
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: ButtWizard]
#12454343 - 04/25/10 05:06 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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A few folks in this thread have already tried that type of yeast. It definitely works, but fancy yeast will give you a tastier batch of prison wine.
Thanks for the info......I just tried a "first" time small batch to see if I get it right.....
The bottle Im using is a 750ml light house, i used 2 cups of 100% apple juice, warmed it slightly.....then added the sugar(1cup).......then I activated the yeast (Per directions on packet).....added that to the whole mix, and well I guess its just the waiting game now....
I wasnt sure if I was supposed to add everything all at once like I did? Its definitely doing something lol
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: notch]
#12455093 - 04/25/10 07:27 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Looking good mate
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: KBG1977]
#12455183 - 04/25/10 07:46 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Looking good mate
Thanks for checking..........It appreciated........
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: notch]
#12460981 - 04/26/10 06:57 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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No problem,but you'll wish you brewed more than that.I mean,that will get you a good buzz,but you'll wish you had more
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: KBG1977]
#12461232 - 04/26/10 07:42 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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No problem,but you'll wish you brewed more than that.I mean,that will get you a good buzz,but you'll wish you had more;)
Dont worry about that LOL....
Im just testing the waters, once I find a recipe I like, I will make a giant batch in my food grade 55gallon drum.....
Ill get the whole neighborhood drunk LOL
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: notch]
#12461925 - 04/26/10 10:15 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Shit,invite me over for that shindig
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: notch]
#12463433 - 04/27/10 03:58 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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That's a lot of prison wine! You'll be a local hero. 
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: ButtWizard]
#12465229 - 04/27/10 02:39 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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This should be enough 
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#12465972 - 04/27/10 04:17 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I would think so
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: preschooler]
#12575721 - 05/16/10 11:23 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nice avatar. A bubblin' airlock is such a satisfying thing. 
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: ButtWizard]
#12591122 - 05/19/10 11:58 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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thanks for recipe man
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: KBG1977]
#12724784 - 06/11/10 08:18 AM (3 years, 9 days ago) |
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anybody try any new concoctions???
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: Scraps]
#12725858 - 06/11/10 02:01 PM (3 years, 8 days ago) |
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They have great value,100 percent apple juice,for $1.50 a gallon here!!! I bought three,and they were totally done fermenting in four days!!! I think keeping them outside in the 90 degree weather speeds up the fermentation process.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: KBG1977]
#12739297 - 06/14/10 01:18 AM (3 years, 6 days ago) |
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What type of potency are we talking after 5 days of brewing?
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: suburbanned]
#12743529 - 06/14/10 09:44 PM (3 years, 5 days ago) |
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enough to get you blasted!!!
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: KBG1977]
#12744122 - 06/14/10 11:32 PM (3 years, 5 days ago) |
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It's true.
I'm thinking like 10% ABV after it stops a-bubblin'
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: DeeGee]
#12745709 - 06/15/10 10:12 AM (3 years, 5 days ago) |
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Just skip to the end of this for a summary.
Ok, This thread is AWESOME. But there are some CRITICAL mistakes that people have been making. These mistakes have been your possible downfall.
I'd like to add some information that would make the fermenting process a bit more refined, so that people can get more consistently successful results. I do love the general experimentation going on though!
First, Acidity. You probably don't need to worry about this too much, unless you are using a strong lemonade or orange juice or something very acidic. Yeast can tolerate 3.5 PH on the high end, and around 8 PH on the low end. For those of you with PH paper, adjust to between 4.8 and 5.0 to keep the yeast happy, and to retard the growth of lactic acid micro-organisms.
Second, max sugar concentration. This one is the important one. If your sugar concentration is too high, your yeast will die, and you will not get a good ferment. Keep it to around 0.20 to 0.25 kg/L. So, for a 1.5L jug, you'd need to add .35kg's of sugar.
If you are using juice with a lot of sugar in it, and then you add like 2 cups, and you don't get a good fermentation, it may be that your sugar concentration is too high!
Third, yeast nutrients. Those of you using juice don't need to worry, the juice has all the basic nutrients that your yeast needs, obviously. But if you think you can get away with just sugar and water, you'll probably have found out by now that you certainly can't... google yeast nutrients for an endless supply of information if you're looking to get all minimalistic and use water, suger, yeast nutrients, and no juice at all..
And lastly, If you leave dead yeast in your brew, it will eventually ruin it.
I did some calculations based on the 128 oz bottle of Tree Top 100% Apple juice, the same one that Alan has been using.
It should have 416 grams of natural sugar per 128 (3.79L) oz jug already.
To max out your sugar concentration at .20kg/L you'll need a total of 758 grams of sugar per 128oz jug.
Taking into account the original sugar content of 416 grams, this leaves some headroom to add more sugar. About 342 grams worth to be exact. About 196 grams of sugar are in one cup, so 1.75 (1 3/4) cups of sugar should be added to the jug.
This should ferment out to almost 12% alcohol. Bakers yeast can get upto 14%, so you should be fine using that.
Keep in mind that this recipe also takes into account the lost apple juice from pouring out enough to allow room for the sugar. There is also some headroom to play with, so don't worry if your measurements are exact...
So to Sum it up...
Meathod's Ape Juice =
128oz Tree Top Apple Juice 100% from concentrate
1.75 cups of white sugar
1 packet of bakers yeast
Ferment between 60-75 degrees. Use balloon with holes over mouth of jug.
sooo, basically...exactly what you guys have been doing, hahah. But calculations make me feel safe and warm...
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: Meat_hod]
#12745768 - 06/15/10 10:34 AM (3 years, 4 days ago) |
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this is a good post KGB! It's kinda like they did it in the pen, except we used bread, apples and tomato paste in a trash bag. Let all the excess air out of the trashbag, and tied it off. Every third day, open and burp.(let the air out) I certainly hope this tastes better! BTW I always read that at 12.5-13% the alcohol kills the yeast, so thats the strongest it could be without distillation. Plenty strong IMO.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: SomeGuy]
#12746166 - 06/15/10 12:48 PM (3 years, 4 days ago) |
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BTW I always read that at 12.5-13% the alcohol kills the yeast, so thats the strongest it could be without distillation. Plenty strong IMO.
All yeast will have a maximum alcohol % it can go up to. I think 18% is the more common type, but you can get some yeasts that will do over 22%.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: trendal]
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For example, the two strains of yeast I usually use (Lalvin EC-1118 and K1-V1116) are both good to 18%. The K1-V1116 will do about 20% when provided the right nutrients.
Check this page out for common wine yeasts: http://winemaking.jackkeller.net/strains.asp
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: trendal]
#12746197 - 06/15/10 12:55 PM (3 years, 4 days ago) |
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I should also note that a proper wine yeast will cost about the same as bakers yeast, and will taste a lot better! I'm talking less than $1 for a 5g packet.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: trendal]
#12746348 - 06/15/10 01:24 PM (3 years, 4 days ago) |
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first off Meat_hod,that was very useful info thereHere lately,I have been using the walmart brand 100 percent apple juice,because it's so damn cheap.$1.50 for a jug!!! I only use 1 cup of sugar,and it's done within 5 days.I noticed when I would use more than 1 cup,it would be done fermenting,but still be very sweet,and too nasty to drink,because the yest was dying out before it was totally done.Also,you're right about the dead yeast.I made a few batches recently,and the older one set with the dead yeast still in it for a few days,well,when I decided to drink it,it smelled sour,and had white mold floating on the top.Now,I know you guys are thinking,well I'm sure you just threw it out right??? Wrong,I drank it anyway,and got sick as hell,with a very minimal buzz,so you're right on the money about the dead yeast ruining it.If you're not going to drink it right away,filter out the dead yest,and refrigerate that shit.Now Paducah,why were you in the pen good buddy??? Just kidding,and where do you think i got the idea from??? I read about the prison wine making,a few years back,and tried the oranges ketchup,and bread in a trash bag,needless to say,the shit was garbage,and I never tried it.but then,I started reading up on a better more sterile way,and found a lot of good info.Now on to the wine yeast.I will never use it again.first of all,after two full weeks of fermenting,it wasn't even remotely done.I sampled it,and it was still deathly sweet,but still bubbling like mad.I just don't want to wait that long,oh,and the taste was no different that using bakers yeast,and it actually was worse.It was a good name brand too.I'll just stick to my baker's yeast,and have my alcohol,in four to five days,fully fermentedOh yea,and grape juice seems to be 10 times stronger than using any other fruit juice,why is that??? Oh,and the sugar water yeast thing does no work at all.I tried that also,and after over three weeks of fermenting,it still wasn't don,so I sampled it,and that had to be the worst shit I had ever attempted to put in my mouth,so I dumped it out.Oh shit my mushrooms are burning,catch you guys later.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: KBG1977]
#12746799 - 06/15/10 03:01 PM (3 years, 4 days ago) |
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Hey guys: just discovered this thread. Looks great. How well can this stuff be stored? What happens if it's in the heat for extended period of time? How does it taste warm?
Trying to think of ways to save money going to All Good this year. Let me know
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: meams]
#12747617 - 06/15/10 05:38 PM (3 years, 4 days ago) |
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I always drink mine as soon as it's done,so it's warm.It taste like shit no matter what.Try it chilled,or on ice
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: KBG1977]
#12747691 - 06/15/10 05:53 PM (3 years, 4 days ago) |
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KGB, that bad batch with the white stuff ontop sounds like it got contaminated.
If the contamination started early, it may have killed the yeasts, hence, not a lot of alcohol content...
Yeast needs a lot more time to multiply than bacteria does...
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: Meat_hod]
#12747743 - 06/15/10 06:09 PM (3 years, 4 days ago) |
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that's probably what happened,because it was outside,and the balloon had a rip in it from something.I can't brew the shit indoors,because it stinks my whole room up.smells like a wino factory full of bums in here when I do
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: KBG1977]
#12747869 - 06/15/10 06:35 PM (3 years, 4 days ago) |
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you ayght to reread my post. Put it in a trashbag. Push all of the air out, Tie it off at the top. About every 3rd day, when it's convienient, open the bag and push the bag down on top of the hooch(burp it) retie with slack. Thats how the inmates hid it from the co's
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: SomeGuy]
#12747875 - 06/15/10 06:37 PM (3 years, 4 days ago) |
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oh,I did that,but regardless,this new method is cleaner,and more effective
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: KBG1977]
#12749304 - 06/15/10 10:44 PM (3 years, 4 days ago) |
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next step is to invest in a $1.50 airlock from the brew store and find a bush of fresh free fruit... and some glass jugs... i found a lady who gave me 25 old apple juice jugs for free... they cost like 4 bucks from the brewery store...
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: DoorsandRooms]
#12749613 - 06/15/10 11:41 PM (3 years, 4 days ago) |
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shit,a brew store,yeah right.I live in a dry county,and the closest place to get alcohol,is in TennesseeI guess I could order an air lock of the net.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: KBG1977]
#12751085 - 06/16/10 08:39 AM (3 years, 4 days ago) |
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or you could bend a hose over into a cup of water
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: SomeGuy]
#12751091 - 06/16/10 08:42 AM (3 years, 4 days ago) |
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Really,I have no need for one,as balloons work just as good
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: KBG1977]
#12751819 - 06/16/10 12:47 PM (3 years, 3 days ago) |
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Really,I have no need for one,as balloons work just as good
You you will never tell until you try one
No really, the experience of hearing the bubbling airlock adding to the brewing process 
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: dstark]
#12753707 - 06/16/10 07:04 PM (3 years, 3 days ago) |
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really??? Well,send me one,and I'll give it a whirl
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: KBG1977]
#12756403 - 06/17/10 04:19 AM (3 years, 3 days ago) |
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Have you ever tried turbo yeast? Wiccan_Seeker turned me onto it a few months back. You can get 20 percent alcohol in 5 days with no distillation. Just sugar, turbo yeast and water.
I was actually considering using juice with it, particularly because I was originally ending up with a carbonated drink. From what I deducted, that was the result of colder than optimal temperatures, which resulted in the process not being fully carried out by the time I was drinking/bottling it. I figured that I could create more of champagne-like drink by using grape juice.
This last time, I ended up with a MUCH stronger batch that had fermented until the Co2 all fizzled out. Some of it, I filtered to end up with a totally clear alcohol that reminded me of some cold saki I've tried. The rest still has some yeast in it, which adds a bit of flavor. I believe you would call this stilling wine, which can easily be distilled to whatever strength alcohol you wanted depending on how many times you run it through.
But truthfully, I prefer the sweeter, bubblier stuff I made at first at the wrong temp. That alone was strong, and almost everyone I gave it to raved about it. It was flavored by the unused sugar and the yeast itself. On NYE I also cut up some strawberries and handed it out at a party I went to.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: blazed123]
#12757019 - 06/17/10 09:35 AM (3 years, 3 days ago) |
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very interesting, tell me more  do you know the scientific name? As far as I know the temp is irrelevant for the carbonation, it's the bottling before full fermentation that causes the bubbles in champagne
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And yes blewmeanie,I use bread yeast
I wonder how bread yeast compares to wine yeast.
I ordered some Lalvin ec-1118 from ebay, it seems pretty good. It can go up to 18% alcohol and is very tolerant of temperature / other issues. Tastes about the same as Montrachet.
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So as long as you have some sort of airlock, the juice won't get moldy or nasty from just sitting around at room temp?
Actually most of the winemanking teks say that the primary fermentation requires oxygen, and they say you should just put a clean cloth over the top of the bottle to keep the dust out. I haven't tried that yet, what I am doing now is just putting the cap on top but only screwing it on a tiny bit so it stays there but doesn't seal. If I screw it on too much it will explode of course.
They use airlocks for the secondary fermentation.
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Things I would do different:
1)Somehow eliminate the yeasty taste. Perhaps adding less yeast? Would that even work or does it multiply in presence of delicious sugarfood? I don't know.
The yeast dies and settles to the bottom after its done, so waiting longer should help remove the yeast taste.
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walmart has some apple juice jugs for two bucks!! i don't think i'll be able to walk into my closet if i keep starting new batches lol
I got a couple of those, they are fermenting well.
I also tried Trader Joes Blackberry juice. It tastes good but makes tons of floating sediment that needs to be filtered out.
I made some with peach juice and mangosteen juice. The peach turned out kind of wierd, mangosteen was good. My favorite juice so far is the blueberry estate from trader joes.
The temperature affects the fermentation speed a lot! Leave it on top of the fridge or somewhere warm. I have half of mine on top of the water heater and the other half on top of the furnace because I got tired of having my kitchen look like a bum's brewery. Doesn't appear to get too hot.
Also it improves a lot the longer you wait, but its also kind of good right at the beginning when its really carbonated.
Using just apple juice with no added sugar makes hard apple cider, maybe 5% alcohol. Still pretty good, but it gets too dry for my taste after awhile. Its fun to taste them a little bit each day and taste them getting stronger and dryer. If its too dry I add a little sugar right before I drink it.
I got some apple cider that looked great, added sugar and yeast and started it. After a few days it wasn't bubbling and tasted just like regular apple cider. After reading the ingredients I see why - They added Sodium benzonate and Potassium sorbate. Make sure to check the ingredients before you buy it, ascorbic acid is ok.
So would you guys say that The optimum fermentation conditions are a temperature of 86 deg F (30 deg C) and a pH of 4 to 5?
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: teknix]
#12763686 - 06/18/10 03:25 PM (3 years, 1 day ago) |
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I'll tell you what,this shit is just to strong to drink recreationally.I got sick as hell last night,and am still sick today.I thought I was going to die mowing,and weed eating in the 100 degree weather today.I'm thinking of not adding any sugar,so the content wont be so hi next batch
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: meams]
#12764663 - 06/18/10 06:32 PM (3 years, 1 day ago) |
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Hey guys: just discovered this thread. Looks great. How well can this stuff be stored? What happens if it's in the heat for extended period of time? How does it taste warm?
As I mentioned before, I now always put my shit in the refrigerator and leave it there for at least overnight so it's nice and cold and the yeast settles to the bottom. I wouldn't drink it warm. It's actually quite tasty chilled.
I left one in the fridge for a couple months and it tasted just fine, if not better over time... so it lasts a long time
P.S. - one way airlock valve is the only way to go.... You can actually taste the rubbery balloon if you don't use it.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: DeeGee]
#12765357 - 06/18/10 08:51 PM (3 years, 1 day ago) |
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I reckon I'll be investing in one of those soon.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: KBG1977]
#12768656 - 06/19/10 01:30 PM (3 years, 21 hours ago) |
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It's worth the $1.50 or so it costs
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: DeeGee]
#12772464 - 06/20/10 09:35 AM (3 years, 56 minutes ago) |
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Wow,muy cheapo
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: KBG1977]
#12772983 - 06/20/10 01:05 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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A quick search for "brewing airlock for sale" came up with some for $0.89
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: trendal]
#12773338 - 06/20/10 02:44 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thanks
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: KBG1977]
#12773900 - 06/20/10 04:35 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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I had to try this out looks easy and tasty!
im starting 2 batches one apple one grape/cherry
Apple:
1 gallon 100% apple juice pasteurized ( couldnt find the good un pasteurized stuff that trader joes used to sell)
1 cup organic cane sugar
1 crushed campden tablet (first 24 hours to kill bacteria and any unwanted wild low alcohol producing yeast)
shake
after waiting for 24 hours add 1/5 of red star Premier Cuvee active dry wine yeast
Grape/cherry:
2 quarts 100% grape juice
2 cups of blended fresh home grown cherrys
1 cup organic cane sugar
1 crushed campden tablet
fill to the top with water
shake!!
24 hours later add 1/5 of red star Premier Cuvee active dry wine yeast
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Premier Curvee : Also known as Prise de Mousse, this is a Champagne yeast that is strong acting, low foaming and therefore qualified for barrel fermentations. It imparts a strong yeasty aroma and is useful for secondary fermentation in both still and sparkling wine production. Good for reds and whites alike and for restarting stuck or sluggish fermentations. Temperature range is 45-95° (equal to Lalvin EC-1118), flocculation is low, and alcohol is reliably 18%.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: SporeSniper]
#12776404 - 06/21/10 01:12 AM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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You're going to jiz when you taste how delicious the cherry/grape wine is
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: DeeGee]
#12776777 - 06/21/10 02:45 AM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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You're going to jiz when you taste how delicious the cherry/grape wine is
i hope so!
when will they be ready to drink?
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: SomeGuy]
#12781230 - 06/21/10 11:20 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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very interesting, tell me more do you know the scientific name? As far as I know the temp is irrelevant for the carbonation, it's the bottling before full fermentation that causes the bubbles in champagne
Yes, temp is irrelevant for carbonation. But the lower temp meant slower fermentation, which meant it was not done by the time it was supposed to be done. But now that Ive gone all the way, I like the carbonated stuff waaay better. The fully fermented stuff tastes kind of weird. I used Alcotech 48 hour, which says something like 13 percent in 2 days or 20 percent in five days if you add some extra sugar. Naturally I always went for the higher alcohol content. I used it in jello shots this past weekend. They were pretty strong.
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Re: KBG's Ultra potent Home made apple wine!!! [Re: blazed123]
#12818581 - 06/28/10 05:00 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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one gallon of welch's 100 percent grape juice,three days fermentation,priceless,and drunk as hell
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