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 SgtBob
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i thought it was funny i found this article on my school homepage right next to a memo about a drug free campus.
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 niteowl
GrandPaw
Registered: 07/01/03
Posts: 16,291
Loc: 
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 Re: Feds to issue new medical marijuana policy  [Re: PostiveOutlook]
#11277147 - 10/19/09 02:44 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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True, the letter still demonizes weed, but at least they are trying to allow the states some leeway
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The prosecution of significant traffickers of illegal drugs, including marijuana, and the disruption of illegal drug manufacturing and trafficking networks continues to be a core priority in the Department’s efforts against narcotics and dangerous drugs, and the Department’s investigative and prosecutorial resources should be directed towards these objectives. As a general matter, pursuit of these priorities should not focus federal resources in your States on individuals whose actions are in clear and unambiguous compliance with existing state laws providing for the medical use of marijuana. For example, prosecution of individuals with cancer or other serious illnesses who use marijuana as part of a recommended treatment regimen consistent with applicable state law, or those caregivers in clear and unambiguous compliance with existing state law who provide such individuals with marijuana, is unlikely to be an efficient use of limited federal resources.
They are talking about going after the Mexican cartels and not so much the dispensaries as far as I can tell from that letter.
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blewmeanie
Sativa Cyborg
Registered: 10/01/06
Posts: 28,512
Loc: Jacksonville FL
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Re: Feds to issue new medical marijuana policy [Re: niteowl]
#11277278 - 10/19/09 03:07 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don't know much of anything about the laws regarding cannabis in California, but I'm wondering Is it legally possible with a doctors recommendation to set up some kind of a co-op so that everyone can contribute their allotment of plants to the group itself and then split the return?
Here in Florida we have a lot of farming co-ops that you can join, and once every so often you get a big ass crate of random fruits and vegetables that are in season delivered to your house. Basically everyone contributes what they can--work, money, or farmland--so that everyone can gain from it.
So if everyone can legally grow 2 plants--I'm just making this number up--and you get 20 people working together, could you consistently grow 40 plants at a time on a piece of property and split the harvest amongst all the members?
As I said, I have no idea how things operate out there
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blewmeanie
Sativa Cyborg
Registered: 10/01/06
Posts: 28,512
Loc: Jacksonville FL
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Re: Feds to issue new medical marijuana policy [Re: PostiveOutlook]
#11277309 - 10/19/09 03:11 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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PostiveOutlook said:
ya its not that sweet of a memo
" Department of Justice is committed to the enforcement of the Controlled Substances Act in all States. Congress has determined that marijuana is a dangerous drug, and the illegal distribution and sale of marijuana is a serious crime and provides a significant source of revenue to large-scale criminal enterprises, gangs, and cartels. One timely example underscores the importance of our efforts to prosecute significant marijuana traffickers"
"Dangerous drug" 
You've got to love their logic.
"Our reason for the continued restriction of cannabis is because despite that fact that it's been banned, people continue to break the law thus increasing crime" 
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Prisoner#1
Even Dumber ThanAdvertized!
Registered: 01/22/03
Posts: 168,644
Loc: Pvt. Pubfag NutSuck
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Re: Feds to issue new medical marijuana policy [Re: learningtofly]
#11279588 - 10/19/09 09:16 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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learningtofly said:
okay so i read that, and it pretty much says "Arrest them, but if they have cancer maybe give them a break, but you can still arrest them anyway."
AKA that memo doesn't mean shit. There's nothing in there that is binding at all, it's just suggestions.
gotta love how people get all worked up and think it's some kind of
leeway or major advancement towards their goals while in fact it's just
more of the same, bullshit and rhetoric
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there are 923 words in the english language that do not follow the "I before E"
rule, there are 44 words in the english language that follow the rule. this is
the shit our education funding is paying for and these liberals want more money
for education to keep making students stupid
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Tri High
Whigro
Registered: 05/02/08
Posts: 11,769
Loc: Monaghan, Ireland
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Re: Feds to issue new medical marijuana policy [Re: Prisoner#1]
#11279727 - 10/19/09 09:35 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's not more of the same, silly.
If the dispensaries follow the rules, they won't be messed with.
And it's up to the district's discretion. Instead of the fed's discretion.
So now it all comes down to whom is elected in the districts, to make sure that things go the peoples' way.
You're a counter intelligence professional.
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Prisoner#1
Even Dumber ThanAdvertized!
Registered: 01/22/03
Posts: 168,644
Loc: Pvt. Pubfag NutSuck
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Re: Feds to issue new medical marijuana policy [Re: Tri High]
#11280207 - 10/19/09 10:24 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Tri High said:
If the dispensaries follow the rules, they won't be messed with.
dispensaries, growers and patients cant follow the rules, it's in
violation of federal law and a few lines certainly not that regardless
of whether they are in compliance with state law or not, prosecution is
still an option especially when it serves the interest of the federal
government
Of course, no State can authorize violations of federal law
Nor does this guidance preclude investigation or prosecution, even when there is clear and unambiguous compliance with existing state law, in particular circumstances where investigation or prosecution otherwise serves important federal interests.
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And it's up to the district's discretion. Instead of the fed's discretion.
it clearly states that it's at the discretion of the feds
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You're a counter intelligence professional.
I like to call it 'communications specialist', it entails much more than
just spotting the federal bullshit. That must be I see what everyone
else doest... and it seems I'm seldom wrong, just like the first claims
of obama's administration claiming they wouldnt prosecute
as ong as they were in compliance with state and federal laws
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there are 923 words in the english language that do not follow the "I before E"
rule, there are 44 words in the english language that follow the rule. this is
the shit our education funding is paying for and these liberals want more money
for education to keep making students stupid
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po0dingles
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Registered: 08/20/09
Posts: 419
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Re: Feds to issue new medical marijuana policy [Re: Dystopia]
#11280865 - 10/19/09 11:58 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Dystopia said:
I'd love for CT to get on this. I could get off benzos and probably half (or all) of my painkillers.
Outta here in ~18 months anyway, but it'll feel like forever.
Where in CT? I moved from CT to FL over a year ago. Enjoy that fuckin weather?  It's 70-80 here right now. Perfect for outdoor incubation. 
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Cannabischarlie
Yarry's Apprentice
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Last seen: 1 month, 15 days
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Re: Feds to issue new medical marijuana policy [Re: SgtBob]
#11281076 - 10/20/09 12:30 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Its a flat out fucking Lie that Marijuana is the biggest money maker for cartels. it hasnt been that way in a long time, gets less and less so, and the market being flooded and people growing it here, the fact that its so much easier to make and acquire as a drug AND its bulky make it less and less profitbable, the cartels have been making meff to counter whatever few minute policies affect cocaine production temporarily, and domestic production is up.
the fact is pot really does so little for cartels and it helps them get caught on other things, and the fact that a legal marijuana industry is more or less popping up and less people care, means the cartels have to move up to doing harder things with harder to acquire drugs, and the stuff with addiciton potential what we think of as "bad" or "hard drugs" and the hardest thing that hits them is not big raids, its less money for harder work.
the more pot gets legalized the less they are in that business, the safer access to marijuana is, and lets be honest, pot just isnt in the same category of other things.
i wont even talk about MDMA and things of that nature because the Cartels really arent in that as much, except for buying MDMA and using cheap meff to stretch it farther, whatever.
Right up front, I can tell you that dispensaries can follow the rules at the state level and those who are involved in, well the guns, selling to minors, whatever they talked about, well those get weeded out, no pun intended.
probably not necessarily a bad thing because it needs to be shown that its all lip service that these are "cover ups" and we dont want gangsters and or irresponsible people ruining what would otherwise be a mundane business. Fact is you can grow your own and if you could just grow some plants without it being a crime, it would simply be done and get the cartel out of it altogether at every level.
i live in colorado, we are second only to california in how this works and ours works exactly the same way.
the newer administration has been in for a while and alot of the old shit is or stuff right after obama got in office is just status quo left over, or in defiance of the old administration, whatever the case is it wasnt just going to happen overnight. this shit and the useless raids happened a lot last administration, i never hear about it anymore.
things are inevitable that it will go in the direction of decriminalization and legalization and marijuana is really less and less to cartels and if you could load a plane up with cocaine or underground tunnels, are you going to use bulky marijuana that doesnt sell much or get 10 times as much if you can access the cocaine?
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