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Police: Patient high on mushrooms stabs NY nurse
    #11252564 - 10/15/09 01:51 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Police: Patient high on mushrooms stabs NY nurse
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CORTLAND, N.Y. – Authorities say an 18-year-old patient high on psychedelic mushrooms stabbed a nurse in the chest with a pocket knife during an examination at a central New York hospital.

Alex Stephens of Freeville was charged with felony assault and criminal possession of a weapon after the incident at 1:30 a.m. Wednesday at Cortland Regional Medical Center. He was arraigned in Cortland City Court and jailed without bail.

Police say the 53-year-old male nurse is in guarded condition with internal bleeding.

Police say Stephens had ingested hallucinogenic psilocybin (sy-luh-SY'-buhn) mushrooms while visiting friends at Tompkins Cortland Community College.

Authorities did not know whether Stephens had a lawyer.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091015/ap_on_re_us/us_nurse_stabbed_1


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Police: Man at TC3 dorm overdoses, stabs nurse [Re: motaman]
    #11252605 - 10/15/09 01:56 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

October 14, 2009

Police: Man at TC3 dorm overdoses, stabs nurse

By Raymond Drumsta
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A former Tompkins Cortland Community College student who had ingested hallucinogen mushrooms was charged with stabbing a Cortland Regional Medical Center nurse early today.

Alex J. Stephens, 18, of Freeville was at the hospital for a mental health evaluation when he stabbed a 53-year-old male nurse in the chest once at 1:30 a.m., Cortland Police said. He was subdued, arrested and charged with first-degree assault, a felony, and fourth-degree criminal possession of a weapon, a misdemeanor, they added.

The victim is in guarded condition with internal bleeding at Upstate Medical Hospital, police said.

Stephens, who withdrew from classes earlier in the week, was visiting friends at the campus residence halls, college officials said. Stephens’ friend told campus public safety officers that Stephens had overdosed on a narcotic drug, and Dryden Ambulance took Stephens to the hospital for evaluation under the mental hygiene law, police said.

Stephens became unruly at the hospital, pulled a folding knife from his waistband and stabbed the nurse, police said. Their investigation revealed that Stephens had been using psilocybin mushrooms earlier in the evening, they added. Psilocybin is a hallucinogen, according to the Department of Justice.

Stephens was arraigned in Cortland City Court and remanded to Cortland County Jail without bail.

http://www.pressconnects.com/article/20091014/NEWS01/91014023/1006/


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Re: Police: Man at TC3 dorm overdoses, stabs nurse [Re: motaman]
    #11252625 - 10/15/09 01:59 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

great one more to fuck us over


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Re: Police: Man at TC3 dorm overdoses, stabs nurse [Re: Booster]
    #11252645 - 10/15/09 02:01 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

How do they know it was shrooms? sounds like PCP.
They did say overdose on a "narcotic drug"
Mushrooms are no where near narcotic


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Re: Police: Patient high on mushrooms stabs NY nurse [Re: motaman]
    #11252647 - 10/15/09 02:01 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Dumb fucking idiot.

I'd like to personally beat the life out of this punk.


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Re: Police: Man at TC3 dorm overdoses, stabs nurse [Re: motaman]
    #11252671 - 10/15/09 02:04 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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motaman said:
October 14, 2009

Police: Man at TC3 dorm overdoses, stabs nurse

By Raymond Drumsta
rdrumsta@gannett.com

A former Tompkins Cortland Community College student who had ingested hallucinogen mushrooms was charged with stabbing a Cortland Regional Medical Center nurse early today.

Alex J. Stephens, 18, of Freeville was at the hospital for a mental health evaluation when he stabbed a 53-year-old male nurse in the chest once at 1:30 a.m., Cortland Police said. He was subdued, arrested and charged with first-degree assault, a felony, and fourth-degree criminal possession of a weapon, a misdemeanor, they added.

The victim is in guarded condition with internal bleeding at Upstate Medical Hospital, police said.

Stephens, who withdrew from classes earlier in the week, was visiting friends at the campus residence halls, college officials said. Stephens� friend told campus public safety officers that Stephens had overdosed on a narcotic drug, and Dryden Ambulance took Stephens to the hospital for evaluation under the mental hygiene law, police said.

Stephens became unruly at the hospital, pulled a folding knife from his waistband and stabbed the nurse, police said. Their investigation revealed that Stephens had been using psilocybin mushrooms earlier in the evening, they added. Psilocybin is a hallucinogen, according to the Department of Justice.

Stephens was arraigned in Cortland City Court and remanded to Cortland County Jail without bail.

http://www.pressconnects.com/article/20091014/NEWS01/91014023/1006/




Either his wasn't on mushrooms, his friend is a moron, or the police are morons.  Potentially all three.  I hate it when stories are put out like this when almost no real information is known.  Makes everyone look bad, when it could not even be true.


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Re: Police: Man at TC3 dorm overdoses, stabs nurse [Re: pwnasaurus]
    #11253027 - 10/15/09 03:00 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

What's a mental hygiene law?


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Re: Police: Man at TC3 dorm overdoses, stabs nurse [Re: pothead_bob]
    #11253197 - 10/15/09 03:24 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

they take you in to cleanse your evil mental status


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Re: Police: Man at TC3 dorm overdoses, stabs nurse [Re: isomorphic]
    #11253203 - 10/15/09 03:25 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I'd probably stab the exorcist too.


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Re: Police: Man at TC3 dorm overdoses, stabs nurse [Re: pothead_bob]
    #11253204 - 10/15/09 03:25 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I don't see how it's possible mushrooms would make you want to stab somebody. You're right, it does sound like PCP, I think they got it wrong. Or else they are just labeling it as shrooms to make it sound more dangerous.


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Re: Police: Man at TC3 dorm overdoses, stabs nurse [Re: housecat]
    #11253335 - 10/15/09 03:45 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

its cause the shrooms made his brain bleed so he started stabbin ppl


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Re: Police: Man at TC3 dorm overdoses, stabs nurse [Re: Shrooms R Us]
    #11253473 - 10/15/09 04:04 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

it says that they figured out he had eaten them earlier.


I have had freak out episodes like this off of xanax, klonopin or valium. I get into a raging fit if set off (usually alcohol involved)


Perhaps he ate some MAOI's or something to counteract shrooms. Made them more potent or whatnot.



At high levels of shrooms, I usually just lay there and vomit for a while, then whenever I can walk about I'm laughing to hard to want to stab anyone.


I think other drugs were invoveed.


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Re: Police: Man at TC3 dorm overdoses, stabs nurse [Re: aspore]
    #11253819 - 10/15/09 04:54 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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I have had freak out episodes like this off of xanax, klonopin or valium. I get into a raging fit if set off (usually alcohol involved)




That combo can definitely set off a rage.


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Re: Police: Man at TC3 dorm overdoses, stabs nurse [Re: shroomgatherer]
    #11254559 - 10/15/09 06:38 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Shoulda left him alone


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Re: Police: Man at TC3 dorm overdoses, stabs nurse [Re: MHbound]
    #11255464 - 10/15/09 09:03 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

It sounds to me like this person was unstable mentally to begin with and should not have eaten mushrooms to begin with.  He withdrew from classes, which means he either stopped caring and failed them, or was under a lot of mental stress and was having a life crisis of sorts and had to withdraw from them.  Either way, that's not the best time to eat mushrooms, as he apparently found out.

Also his friends are dumb for taking him to the hospital.  He was apparently conscious, so I couldn't see what reason they would have had for bringing him there.  Almost seems premeditated on the part of the assailant.


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Re: Police: Man at TC3 dorm overdoses, stabs nurse [Re: libertaire]
    #11255836 - 10/15/09 10:06 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

ahh... good 'ol cortland.  There are some strange folks out there.  Stupid college kids diving into unwanted unknowns. 

Last year some girl dosed 2 hits and put her head through the a 48" flatscreen and broke a bunch of windows in the house next door to my friends.

You guys are trying to make it seem like mushrooms have no negative effects. Once something starts freaking you out it's hard to come out of it.  You don't need PCP to not know whats going on.  He was having a bad trip, paranioa. 

Stop defending the drug so much, it's fantastic, don't get me wrong, I'll eat mushrooms spiritually for the rest of my life, but they cut deep into your imagination and you can do extremely irrational things.

When people make up lame excuses to defend drugs, they sound exactly that, lame; burnt out and in stoner denial.  We all are, but don't scream it in the streets!

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Re: Police: Man at TC3 dorm overdoses, stabs nurse [Re: lbtchnlgs]
    #11255888 - 10/15/09 10:14 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Police: Man at TC3 dorm overdoses, stabs nurse [Re: libertaire]
    #11255940 - 10/15/09 10:22 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Yea but I don't think under the influence of shrooms you would be violent at all. Unless your already a psycho


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Re: Police: Man at TC3 dorm overdoses, stabs nurse [Re: Conaman12]
    #11255962 - 10/15/09 10:25 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Yea but I don't think under the influence of shrooms you would be violent at all. Unless your already a psycho




That's absolutely false, unfortunately.  Normal people can get violent if they are going through rough times on any hallucinogen.  That fact is not even up for debate.


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Re: Police: Man at TC3 dorm overdoses, stabs nurse [Re: Conaman12]
    #11257362 - 10/16/09 02:25 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Mushrooms are no where near narcotic




i know that, but lawmakers are nowhere near intelligent either.


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Re: Police: Man at TC3 dorm overdoses, stabs nurse [Re: SuperD]
    #11257365 - 10/16/09 02:25 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Those "friends" are dicks.

Unless the dude was acually threatening to hurt them physical, taking him to the hospital is a horrid thing to do.

Even if a friend threatened to tear me apart while on drugs i'd do anything but take him to the doc's. Tape him to a chair or some shit lol.


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Re: Police: Man at TC3 dorm overdoses, stabs nurse [Re: aspore]
    #11257383 - 10/16/09 02:30 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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I have had freak out episodes like this off of xanax, klonopin or valium. I get into a raging fit if set off (usually alcohol involved)




thats ok, because a raging fit is somehow normal and ok when only legal drugs are involved.


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Re: Police: Man at TC3 dorm overdoses, stabs nurse [Re: Lucas89]
    #11258635 - 10/16/09 11:06 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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I have had freak out episodes like this off of xanax, klonopin or valium. I get into a raging fit if set off (usually alcohol involved)




thats ok, because a raging fit is somehow normal and ok when only legal drugs are involved.





yeah, it seems legal drugs harm more or as much as hard drugs.


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Re: Police: Man at TC3 dorm overdoses, stabs nurse [Re: SuperD]
    #11258725 - 10/16/09 11:35 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Normal people can get violent if they are going through rough times on any hallucinogen.  That fact is not even up for debate.




Totally true :thumbup:.  The nurse was probably fucking with him and trying to make his experience as miserable as possible (cuz nurses don't care about low-life druggies), the kid sensed it and got way too pissed off.  I'm not defending his actions, I'm just saying that if they would have given him a huge dose of xanax and morphine (or some other narcotic) then he would have passed out for the remainder of the trip and this whole incident wouldn't have happened.


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Re: Police: Man at TC3 dorm overdoses, stabs nurse [Re: Newfound_wonder]
    #11258917 - 10/16/09 12:20 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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SuperD said:
Normal people can get violent if they are going through rough times on any hallucinogen.  That fact is not even up for debate.




Totally true :thumbup:.  The nurse was probably fucking with him and trying to make his experience as miserable as possible (cuz nurses don't care about low-life druggies), the kid sensed it and got way too pissed off.  I'm not defending his actions, I'm just saying that if they would have given him a huge dose of xanax and morphine (or some other narcotic) then he would have passed out for the remainder of the trip and this whole incident wouldn't have happened.




r u retarded. Why would a nurse fuck with someone to make them miserable? Do you have ANY evidence supporting that or are you basing that on nothing?


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Re: Police: Man at TC3 dorm overdoses, stabs nurse [Re: learningtofly]
    #11259300 - 10/16/09 01:20 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I'm basing that off my experience of jobshadowing a nurse.  She showed me the drunk tank and the room with a bed to strap down patients who are being disobedient.  She said that nurses have no intention of making the detoxification process comfortable since people undergoing detox have "already had their fun".

I also base this off my girlfriend who is majoring in nursing.  If someone pisses her off and she has to give them a shot, she will "accidently" miss the vein so she has to stab them multiple times with a needle.

When you spend most of the day wiping asses and changing bedpans and getting ordered around by doctors, you tend to take your displaced aggression out on other people whenever you can get away with it.  I could be wrong, but I suspect this nurse wasn't being very nice to this shroomer because it's hard to believe that this kid would decide to commit such a violent act without being provoked.


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Re: Police: Man at TC3 dorm overdoses, stabs nurse [Re: Newfound_wonder]
    #11262882 - 10/17/09 12:00 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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I'm basing that off my experience of jobshadowing a nurse.  She showed me the drunk tank and the room with a bed to strap down patients who are being disobedient.  She said that nurses have no intention of making the detoxification process comfortable since people undergoing detox have "already had their fun".

I also base this off my girlfriend who is majoring in nursing.  If someone pisses her off and she has to give them a shot, she will "accidently" miss the vein so she has to stab them multiple times with a needle.

When you spend most of the day wiping asses and changing bedpans and getting ordered around by doctors, you tend to take your displaced aggression out on other people whenever you can get away with it.  I could be wrong, but I suspect this nurse wasn't being very nice to this shroomer because it's hard to believe that this kid would decide to commit such a violent act without being provoked.




You're girlfriend is a bitch.  You went to school to be a nurse, what the hell do you expect?


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