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 Soulmates (not for the faint of heart) 
#1120659 - 12/07/02 10:55 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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There are a variety of opinions as to whether we really have soulmates. As a true skeptic I have to rely on my experiences and keep an open mind. However, my experiences thus far have provided the evidence for me to think that such a case might be true, not absolutely true mind you, but true enough that I will think it is true until more data comes in and pulls the rug out from under my feet.
Here is a song that I think encapsulates or embodies what it means to be or to have a 'soulmate'. It is by Todd Rundgren (who else) and it is called, Mated.
Everyone asks
Are we some kind of lovers?
Everyone asks, what you're doing with me
I know this is not what they want
They're afraid you've been blinded
But I already know how it's going to be
If anyone should ask
Say we're mated
For as long as this life lasts
We are mated
Why else would you be here right now
And you know we'll still be here tomorrow
Nobody else..... understands what I'm doing
Nobody else..... makes me act in this way
And because they can't comprehend
What we mean to each other
They won't leave you alone
So you know what to say
If anyone should ask
Say we're mated
For as long as this life lasts
I hold you in my heart
'Cause we're mated
In a very special part
We are mated
Why else would I be here right now
And you know I'll still be here tomorrow
I see things far ahead, maybe light
Maybe beautiful children
I don't have words I'm thinking of
But it's way.... beyond... what they..... call......... love!
If anyone should ask
Say we're mated
For as long as this life lasts
We are mated
Why else would you be here right now
And you know we'll still be here tomorrow
If you have a soulmate life can be the most exciting adventure a person could ever wish for. If you don't have one, maybe you should.
Edited by Anonymous (12/07/02 11:02 PM)
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 Re: Soulmates (not for the faint of heart) [Re: ]
#1120757 - 12/07/02 11:46 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I believe we're all one soul and that we are made up of love.
I believe a "soul mate" is just someone who, because of the right circumstances is the best person to give you the experience of feeling more of what you are, i.e. love.
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Re: Soulmates (not for the faint of heart) [Re: ]
#1120778 - 12/07/02 11:54 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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You peeps might get a kick out of this: I was talking to the venerable Plato over the phone a few days back and we got on the track of soulmates. I am attempting to reconnect with my perceived soulmate and Mr. Mushrooms suggested I send my beloved the book "One" by Richard Bach. I laughed heartily as I had sent her that book years before.
Go figure! (all praise Mr. Mush's 4th dimensional perception)
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Re: Soulmates (not for the faint of heart) [Re: Learyfan]
#1120841 - 12/08/02 12:27 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I just had to say that john and yoko are the opposite of anything I would ever consider a good relationship to be. Have you checked out their scene besides what they handed you as very hip AD people? John said to many folks that he would die a violent death because he thought he killed Stuart Sutcliff. Yoko was into some weird magic shit and was heavily manipulating John. Whatever.....Check it out. I just read a book called "Lennon" by this dude who did some seriouse research. I fucked my whole opinion up about him and I used to condier him equal to Jesus, Buddha, (I used to put Ghandi in here but found out later that he was an avid wife beater).
ANYWAY, to the origina question.....
Yes, I belive in sould mates. I am particularly into a psycological version of what that may be proported by a one Harvill Hendrix. He wrote a book on it called "getting the love you want" and a subsequent version for single folks called "keeping the love you find."
In a nutshell- People create an image in their mind which can be viewed by what he calls the "imago". This is a outline of character traits both positive and negative of our main caregivers. It also encompases the shit socitey forced us to hide and aspects of oursleves that we wish we had. When we meet a person who fits within those certain and humanly personal outlines, we to "I feel like I have known you forever." and cannot imagine being without them.
Then the real fun begins but that is another story and I am not going to get into that unless forced.....
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Re: Soulmates (not for the faint of heart) [Re: upupup]
#1120932 - 12/08/02 01:22 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ghandi? A wife beater? 
People create an image in their mind which can be viewed by what he calls the "imago". This is a outline of character traits both positive and negative of our main caregivers. It also encompases the shit socitey forced us to hide and aspects of oursleves that we wish we had. When we meet a person who fits within those certain and humanly personal outlines, we to "I feel like I have known you forever." and cannot imagine being without them.
Look up into Jung's anima and animus. 
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What if everything around you
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What if all the world you think you know,
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Edited by Murex (12/08/02 01:32 AM)
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Re: Soulmates (not for the faint of heart) [Re: ]
#1120965 - 12/08/02 01:40 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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 great post.
I too believe in soulmates, although i also believe we are all one, bound by love. so i might believe there could be more than one soulmate. but one that you find you can share your entire being with, and feel like you and she are of one....
Consummate Love.
I feel very lucky to share my life with whom i believe is my soulmate. she is my first love, and (although i try not to expect what my future will be) i believe the love of my lifetime.
thanks for posting those soulwarming lyrics. 
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Re: Soulmates (not for the faint of heart) [Re: Murex]
#1120981 - 12/08/02 01:52 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ghadi yes...mmm ....hard to find that link but looking...fuck....anyway it was SA on why non-violence ultimatly ends up in the end supporting violence and it got way into who the old Mahatma was. I do belive however that his wife beating days were in his younger days since he was married to the same woman since he was 13 and all (you kept your hands to yourself since you were 13?) and Indian culture ...do I need to?
JUNG! Hurts my brain. Read his auto? Wacked, visionary fuck...
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Re: Soulmates (not for the faint of heart) [Re: upupup]
#1122055 - 12/08/02 02:32 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Very True, soul mates are a created relationship based on what we wish we had our what we know. I myself do not think that there is one person out there for anyone so maybe the best thing to do is just have recreational sex..............................
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 Re: Soulmates (not for the faint of heart) [Re: upupup]
#1122342 - 12/08/02 05:23 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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This is an excerpt from "Autobiography of a Yogi" by Paramahansa Yogananda detailing a tribute from Kasturabai (Gandhi's wife) to Gandhi:
"I thank you for having had the privilege of being your lifelong companion and helpmate. I thank you for the most perfect marriage in the world, based on brahmacharya (self-control) and not on sex. I thank you for having considered me your equal in your life work for India. I thank you for not being one of those husbands who spend their time in gambling, racing, women, wine, and song, tiring of their wives and children as the little boy quickly tires of his childhood toys. How thankful I am that you were not one of those husbands who devote their time to growing rich on the exploitation of the labor of others.
How thankful I am that you put God and country before bribes, that you had the courage of your convictions and a complete and implicit faith in God. How thankful I am for a husband who put God and his country before me. I am grateful to you for your tolerance of me and my shortcomings of youth, when I grumbled and rebelled against the change you made in our mode of living, from so much to so little.
As a young child, I lived in your parents' home; your mother was a great and good woman; she trained me, taught me how to be a brave, courageous wife and how to keep the love and respect of her son, my future husband. As the years passed and you became India's most beloved leader, I had none of the fears that beset the wife who may be cast aside when her husband has climbed the ladder of success, as so often happens in other countries. I knew that death would still find us husband and wife."
Just another side of the story. Come to your own conclusions.
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Re: Soulmates (not for the faint of heart) [Re: Insomniac]
#1122676 - 12/08/02 08:42 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thank you. I knew that couldn't possibly have been true.
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Re: Soulmates (not for the faint of heart) [Re: Insomniac]
#1123066 - 12/08/02 10:50 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well that probably proves he did beat her. Abused wives often cover up for their husbands.
Just the other side of the story. Draw your own conclusions.
The fact is that even if Gandhi did beat his wife when they were young that could have been the thing that taught him that non-violence was the way.
Remember Gandhigee was only human, a great leader, but a human.
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Re: Soulmates (not for the faint of heart) [Re: ]
#1123740 - 12/09/02 03:05 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Anyone ever read anything about Twin Flames?
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Re: Soulmates (not for the faint of heart) [Re: bloo_sunshine]
#1124122 - 12/09/02 09:01 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms,
numberless times,
In life after life, in age after age forever.
My spell-bound heart has made and re-made the
necklace of songs
That you take as a gift, wear round your neck in
your many forms
In life after life, in age after age forever.
Twin Flames
This is basically the other half of you. This is who we ALL search for in our lives, but more than likely our other half is on another astral level or even serving us as our spirit guide, waiting for us to learn life`s lessons and then return to them to join them as one.
The concept of a twin flame comes from the belief that at the time of creation, a soul comes forth and then splits, thus creating a male and female aspects of the same flame. The goal of each flame is to reunite and become one again. When you meet your Twin Flame it is like finally finding yourself. This is why we go through life searching and searching and basically what we are doing is looking for someone who is like us. We all want to know just how much we have in common with the other person. What we are doing is looking for ourselves and we won`t feel complete, even if we are already in a relationship, until we meet up with our other half to make ONE, to be complete.
http://star.goddess.tripod.com/twinflame2.html
http://www.cat2.com/tween/inspire21twinrays.html#1 Twin Ray
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Re: Soulmates (not for the faint of heart) [Re: ]
#1124215 - 12/09/02 09:57 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Where can I find a soul mate?
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Re: Soulmates (not for the faint of heart) [Re: Adamist]
#1124278 - 12/09/02 10:34 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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That was great Adamist! 
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Re: Soulmates (not for the faint of heart) [Re: ]
#1124284 - 12/09/02 10:36 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I do not know.
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Re: Soulmates (not for the faint of heart) [Re: ]
#1124607 - 12/09/02 01:02 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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i don't know about soulmates in particular, but for some reason there are poeple who have special meaning to you...
thats a bad way to put it, at the point you're at right now, there are poeple who's energy is extremely benificial to you, or who you for some reason have to interact with do to a higher power.
i've never been sure more than once, but on dxm one time i just hung out in this park all day tripping insanely because i couldn't figure out how to get out (a tiny tiny park, union square). then, i saw this girl in this crowd of people watching a performer. i watched her for a while, then i robo shuffled over to her, sat down near her (there weren't that many people sitting there so it must have looked hilarious) like i sat there trying to figure out what to say, i started with something stupid like the time or something, then without any other promting she started talking all this amazing stuff that i can't remeber about synchronisity and all that. it was a wierd fucking day. i lost her phone number and haven't seen her in a while, but i'm pretty sure for some reason or other she is somehow directly connected to me.
maybe a neighbor in the soul spheres or something.
anyway, i have other examples but that was the must dramatic.
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Re: Soulmates (not for the faint of heart) [Re: Learyfan]
#1125151 - 12/09/02 04:09 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I can't find that damn link. It was part of a website that had something to do with ELF but has now dissapeared.
Not that movies are to be believed but didn't the movie "Ghandi" portray him tossing his wife out of thier house pretty roughly?
Off topic but we are talking about a culture that burns wives alive with thier dead husbands. Women in India are generally not held in high esteem by any stretch of the imagination and as in other asian countries as sometimes just outright killed when born...
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Re: Soulmates (not for the faint of heart) [Re: upupup]
#1125258 - 12/09/02 04:47 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I found a site with a section relating to Gahndhi and his views about women's equality to men.
http://www.kamat.com/mmgandhi/mmgandhi.htm
This quote seems to apply here:
"Indian society is a male dominated one. Gandhiji has illustrated in his autobiography (The stories of my experiments with truth) how early in his marriage he too wanted to dominate his wife. He often said that paternal society is the root cause of inequality. In his book, there is a very touching chapter about when he asked his wife to clean a public toilet and the resulting conflict between him and his wife. He has written how ashamed he was of himself, and how he took care not to hurt her anymore for the rest of his life. Even though there was big gap between him and his wife intellectually, it did not affect their family life. He has said that Kasturba followed her husband more than was expected of her. Gandhiji followed Bramacharya (strict discipline of food, drinks, and of celibacy) from a very young age, but when his wife passed away, Gandhi grieved that without Ba, his life would have been meaningless. That was the bondage of his 62 years of marriage."
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Re: Soulmates (not for the faint of heart) [Re: Adamist]
#1125552 - 12/09/02 06:14 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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With my 1st mushroom trip, I was looking in the mirrior and my features were becoming more femanine. I was then moved to tears because I felt that I missed this other part of me for so long. I don't know what this 'other part of me' was- a mate in another life or just my rejected feminine side.
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Re: Soulmates (not for the faint of heart) [Re: Murex]
#1125567 - 12/09/02 06:18 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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so good to see you
i missed you so much
so glad its over
i missed you so much
came out to watch you play
why are you running away?
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Re: Soulmates (not for the faint of heart) [Re: In(di)go]
#1125672 - 12/09/02 06:43 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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great topic.
i was once with a girl i truly believed to be my soulmate, she was my first love, my first feeling at all toward a women. she didn't feel the same, obviously, thats so fucked up, that it makes me wander if we're in this life for ourselves and just look for a compatible partner to carry out our most sub-conscious desire - to spread our genes-
when i say for ourselves. im talking about the having only our self interest at the very top priority, then you and your mate 'together' just below yours at #2.
it would be nice to think, but also scary to confirm you have a soulmate. cuz right now. im completely ignorant with the love another person thing....i just watch others and try to imagine what it would be like....at the time.
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Re: Soulmates (not for the faint of heart) [Re: ribbit]
#1125699 - 12/09/02 06:53 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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My wife and I were at the same college at the same time and didn't meet until 14 years later. We both kept being in the same places all the time but missing each other. She was a lesbian (not the butch type thank you) for most of that time but could never really get it together to be in a real relationship.
We believe we are soul mates and that the other has just what the other needs to become healthy and whole and by helping to heal the other we heal ourselves...
I think we were supposed to meet back then but we fucked it up....or did we, damn, I hate that...
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Re: Soulmates (not for the faint of heart) [Re: ribbit]
#1125704 - 12/09/02 06:56 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Each time I fall, I think this is the one..... Led Zeppelin:the rover(physical graffiti, 1975)
Every goddess a let down, every idol a bringdown,it gets you down
Roxy Music "mother of pearl"(Stranded,1973)
And still....it's the ring with which you hope to be engaged to marry the girl who will give you forever, it's CRAZY and plainly that simply is NOT enough
Peter hamill(with van der graff generator) from still life, 1976
right now in my deflated state of being that's all i can come up with to express my own thoughts on the matter........
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Re: Soulmates (not for the faint of heart) [Re: Murex]
#1125902 - 12/09/02 07:50 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've had the exact same type of trip once.
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Re: Soulmates (not for the faint of heart) [Re: Adamist]
#1126514 - 12/09/02 10:29 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm glad I can see these archetypes actually exist in other people.
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Re: Soulmates (not for the faint of heart) [Re: ]
#1128047 - 12/10/02 08:54 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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"Well that probably proves he did beat her. Abused wives often cover up for their husbands" Its disscusting, that anyone would do that in the first place. I fail to understand some people in this world, they make me sick. 
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Re: Soulmates (not for the faint of heart) [Re: Glacius]
#1128112 - 12/10/02 09:55 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I hear you Glacius.
I fail to understand some people in this world, they make me sad. 
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Re: Soulmates (not for the faint of heart) [Re: ]
#1128170 - 12/10/02 10:26 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I hear you Plato.
I fail to understand some people in this world, yet they effect not my emotional state.
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Re: Soulmates (not for the faint of heart) [Re: Adamist]
#1130541 - 12/10/02 11:49 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Twin Flames
This is basically the other half of you. This is who we ALL search for in our lives, but more than likely our other half is on another astral level or even serving us as our spirit guide, waiting for us to learn life`s lessons and then return to them to join them as one.
The concept of a twin flame comes from the belief that at the time of creation, a soul comes forth and then splits, thus creating a male and female aspects of the same flame. The goal of each flame is to reunite and become one again. When you meet your Twin Flame it is like finally finding yourself. This is why we go through life searching and searching and basically what we are doing is looking for someone who is like us. We all want to know just how much we have in common with the other person. What we are doing is looking for ourselves and we won`t feel complete, even if we are already in a relationship, until we meet up with our other half to make ONE, to be complete.
That is soo beautiful! (thanks for making my insides smile )
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