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 Re: 20 Feet of San Pedro, 2.5 Feet of Bridgesii & Many ???s  [Re: starfirex]
#11082026 - 09/18/09 08:31 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have to disagree with most of you. I think and a/b extraction would be extremely beneficial for this much plant material. Eating raw sucks ass. And i can't think of anything more unatural than eating a giant fucking cactus. I would never ruin my mescaline experience with that much discomfort.
here is something you might want to read over...you can use a crock pot for extending the acid phase/water extraction.you can also repeat and reduce. http://www.thenook.org/archives/tek/cactusex.htm
Edited by preschooler (09/18/09 08:43 AM)
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Re: 20 Feet of San Pedro, 2.5 Feet of Bridgesii & Many ???s [Re: FrenchMachine]
#11082048 - 09/18/09 08:43 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've never boiled 20ft at once, but if you have a big enough pot and you know you are going to be using it between you and your friends within 6 months (freeze it.) then I'm sure it wouldn't be a problem. If you boil it down to 400ml then remember 400ml = 20ft of cactus. Thus one shot glass (20ml) = 1ft.
But for that you are going to need one seriously big pot. (More like cauldron...)
Brew up as much as you are going to use this month if you are not freezing it.
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Re: 20 Feet of San Pedro, 2.5 Feet of Bridgesii & Many ???s [Re: preschooler]
#11082973 - 09/18/09 02:06 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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i can't think of anything more unatural than eating a giant fucking cactus.
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Re: 20 Feet of San Pedro, 2.5 Feet of Bridgesii & Many ???s [Re: FrenchMachine]
#11084280 - 09/18/09 05:31 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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French, you said earlier
"People dont want to realize that Nature never intended for the Mescaline to be chemically extracted from the Cactus or that Nature never intended to have it boiled for hours & hours into a burnt tasting tea."
Nature "put" big ass spines all over that cactus to keep people like you from eating it. You cut your cactus in to pieces and I bet you despine it with some sort of tool before consumption. Just because someone uses more advanced technology than you doesn't make what they do unnatural.
That being said, nature doesn't "intend" anything. Nature is a symptom of the laws of physics.
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Re: 20 Feet of San Pedro, 2.5 Feet of Bridgesii & Many ???s [Re: EdgeChaos]
#11086904 - 09/19/09 03:10 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I got my two bridgesii today - thought I'd post a pic. They turned out to be closer to 20 inches than 16. Mmmm! 
Thanks again for everyone's input. I think I'm going to follow French's method with the bridgesii for my first trip.
For the San Pedro, for practical reasons, I'm definitely going to do a drying and powdering, followed by an IPA extraction and gelcapping. I don't have any experience with a/b, and while I'm sure I could do it, my home circumstances dictate that I keep it easy. That said, I have a couple more questions about this for anyone who cares to answer.
(1) For this procedure, would freezing and thawing before drying out help in any way?
(2) For this procedure, does it make sense to remove the spines and waxy outer skin for any reason other than just being easier to handle? Its a lot of work, I'm thinking maybe I can avoid it since I'm just gonna powder it anyway - but would having the spikes or skin in there add anything unwanted during the IPA extraction?
BTW, I segmented the SP last night and began despining. I got 17 foot-long segments and several smaller segments that I set aside for repotting later or whatever. I also didn't cut up one of the branches that was pretty thin. The 17 sections fill a pretty big box, and its pretty heavy all together. Hoping to get a decent amount of gelcaps out of the whole thing.
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Re: 20 Feet of San Pedro, 2.5 Feet of Bridgesii & Many ???s [Re: FrenchMachine]
#11149990 - 09/29/09 01:45 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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FrenchMachine said:
Dont extract and dont boil. Use it naturally for the full experience. If you do an extraction with only 8 inches it probably wont be a very strong trip. Eat the green flesh straight or wait until tomorrow; I will be posting a detailed, easy method for using Cactus that will result in a very strong experience. Even if you only use 8 inches.
Also, post pix for ID in the "Ethnobotanical Garden" forum. They know everything over there.
how do you suggest to eat naturally if the bridgesii material is dried? just add water and chew? ugh...
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Re: 20 Feet of San Pedro, 2.5 Feet of Bridgesii & Many ???s [Re: ShroomDoom]
#11153683 - 09/29/09 11:42 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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FrenchMachine said:
Dont extract and dont boil. Use it naturally for the full experience. If you do an extraction with only 8 inches it probably wont be a very strong trip. Eat the green flesh straight or wait until tomorrow; I will be posting a detailed, easy method for using Cactus that will result in a very strong experience. Even if you only use 8 inches.
Also, post pix for ID in the "Ethnobotanical Garden" forum. They know everything over there.
how do you suggest to eat naturally if the bridgesii material is dried? just add water and chew? ugh...
If its dried, probably better to powder and mix with some yogurt, pudding or peanutbutter or something. I think it would be gross to eat it dry in big chunks... 
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Re: 20 Feet of San Pedro, 2.5 Feet of Bridgesii & Many ???s [Re: ilikebond]
#11153726 - 09/29/09 11:50 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've eaten it dried, tastes like uncooked noodles, then an earthy after-taste. Gotta go with French here. Eat is straight, and you might want to have a lot of good friends looking for a journey if you have 20 ft  .
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Re: 20 Feet of San Pedro, 2.5 Feet of Bridgesii & Many ???s [Re: smaerd]
#11153895 - 09/30/09 12:17 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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smaerd said:
I've eaten it dried, tastes like uncooked noodles, then an earthy after-taste. Gotta go with French here. Eat is straight, and you might want to have a lot of good friends looking for a journey if you have 20 ft .
Respect, enjoy, and
no dude. my bridgesii tastes like putting your tongue on a battery dipped in vomit. i tried to taste a bit the size of a granola piece and it made me cringe so bad i almost jumped.
its green inner flesh only. really potent. no way i could eat that in yogurt.
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Re: 20 Feet of San Pedro, 2.5 Feet of Bridgesii & Many ???s [Re: starfirex]
#11223731 - 10/11/09 12:23 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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starfirex said:
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FrenchMachine said:
Dont extract and dont boil. Use it naturally for the full experience. If you do an extraction with only 8 inches it probably wont be a very strong trip. Eat the green flesh straight or wait until tomorrow; I will be posting a detailed, easy method for using Cactus that will result in a very strong experience. Even if you only use 8 inches.
Also, post pix for ID in the "Ethnobotanical Garden" forum. They know everything over there.
Man I gotta agree with you 100% on this one..... nothing like eating it raw. You can even get use to the taste.....
haha i dont know about getting used to it, just looking at pedro makes me sick ive done it so many times
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Re: 20 Feet of San Pedro, 2.5 Feet of Bridgesii & Many ???s [Re: mudnpool]
#11223840 - 10/11/09 12:41 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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haha i dont know about getting used to it, just looking at pedro makes me sick ive done it so many times
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Re: 20 Feet of San Pedro, 2.5 Feet of Bridgesii & Many ???s [Re: starfirex]
#11224007 - 10/11/09 01:04 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I envy the deal you got on all that cactus, id jump on that faster then I would on a group of hot horny asian girls
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Re: 20 Feet of San Pedro, 2.5 Feet of Bridgesii & Many ???s [Re: mudnpool]
#11312903 - 10/24/09 05:31 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bump for edits in original post detailing processing & experimentation.
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