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Eating extracted Psilocybin
    #10963895 - 08/30/09 12:38 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Hey, I was wondering if eating extracted psilocybin from dryed shroom was way better than eating the whole shroom ? since you dont have to digest the shroom it self ?


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Re: Eating extracted Psilocybin [Re: Thyrax]
    #10963936 - 08/30/09 12:50 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I dont know about better (unless you have stomach issues with eating them) but it should still make you smile.:thumbup:


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Re: Eating extracted Psilocybin [Re: 13shrooms]
    #10963939 - 08/30/09 12:53 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

no real stomac issue, the thing is that I need a massive dose to trip hard and over 10g of dry shroom I think its an issue for everybody lol


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Re: Eating extracted Psilocybin [Re: Thyrax]
    #10963943 - 08/30/09 12:54 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

If you do a a/b extract you will end up with mostly psilocin, not psilocybin, and they yield won't be 100%. Just eat the shrooms.


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Re: Eating extracted Psilocybin [Re: LawnChairSkank]
    #10963967 - 08/30/09 12:59 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

get a pestle and morter (or something to grind your shrooms) and powder all 10g. and make a big pot of tea.  add Ice to your tea and sweetin to taste, put in fridge (or not) and chug the shit out of it realy fast.:headbang3: 

or funnel bong it:thumbup: that should do it.:rofl2:


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Re: Eating extracted Psilocybin [Re: 13shrooms]
    #10963982 - 08/30/09 01:03 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I like 10 gram trips - theyre so beyond!!!


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Re: Eating extracted Psilocybin [Re: botanisthype]
    #10963998 - 08/30/09 01:11 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

ive done a tea of 11g last time ... and It wasnt enough .. and tasted like fucking shit lol , this is why I want to try extract , to be able to eat the biggest possible dose, at is minimal size and at minimal nosea


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Re: Eating extracted Psilocybin [Re: Thyrax]
    #10964033 - 08/30/09 01:26 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

You could always make pills. You won't even taste it.


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Re: Eating extracted Psilocybin [Re: Thyrax]
    #10964040 - 08/30/09 01:27 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

do an extraction, i believe you can use vinegar and water, or alcohol (ethyl, not iso or methanol)

grind up you fruit bodies, soak them in alcohol, shake and let sit.  evaporate off half of your alcohol, strain the fats out, and continue to evaporate.  supposedly you can fit a large amount of alkaloids in a small amount of alcohol.  there is a tek somewhere on this site, but i don't feel like looking for it right now


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Re: Eating extracted Psilocybin [Re: WalterShabas]
    #10964237 - 08/30/09 02:33 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I have tried extracting with vinegar and it didn't work. I just extracted some using 99% iso end product was a dark flaky material that I put in a gelcap then in a ziploc bag with a silica pack in it in the freezer hoping to try it out soon


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Re: Eating extracted Psilocybin [Re: Shea25]
    #10964319 - 08/30/09 03:12 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

just make sure that you allowed at least 12 hours for the isopropyl to dissolve out of the extract

you probably did, im just making sure because you dont want to ingest that stuff


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Re: Eating extracted Psilocybin [Re: jtb]
    #10964812 - 08/30/09 08:05 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Yea <10g blast off.

I use a coffee grinder and soke my mushies overnight in warm water and then filter and drink, much better on the stomach.


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Re: Eating extracted Psilocybin [Re: thedoc8]
    #10965053 - 08/30/09 10:09 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

There's an ethanol extraction tek around here somewhere that RR posted. He boiled down a 1/4 lb of product into a shot glass and would dose with a medicine dropper.

This thread will probably be moved to Psychedelic Experience.


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Re: Eating extracted Psilocybin (moved) [Re: Thyrax]
    #10965068 - 08/30/09 10:13 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

This thread was moved from Mushroom Cultivation.

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Re: Eating extracted Psilocybin [Re: Brennus]
    #10965120 - 08/30/09 10:32 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

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There's an ethanol extraction tek around here somewhere that RR posted. He boiled down a 1/4 lb of product into a shot glass and would dose with a medicine dropper.

This thread will probably be moved to Psychedelic Experience.




holy shit that sounds awesome. if someone can find that thread hook up a link.


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Re: Eating extracted Psilocybin [Re: Brennus]
    #10965155 - 08/30/09 10:45 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Brennus said:
There's an ethanol extraction tek around here somewhere that RR posted. He boiled down a 1/4 lb of product into a shot glass and would dose with a medicine dropper.

This thread will probably be moved to Psychedelic Experience.




Extract is great. Adjust your final product by adding fresh ethanol, so you have one milliliter per gram of dried material. Makes dosing easy.


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Re: Eating extracted Psilocybin [Re: Doc_T]
    #10965304 - 08/30/09 11:49 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Is there some kind of danger to eat a shit load of shroom ? even if you extract it so you lessen the indigestion ? cus i used to trip very often with 6 to 11g and it has never been enough ... even with 11g I was feeling so damn good and able to walk and go pee ect ect lol... Im planning to trip real soon when my crop is gonna be ready to harvest and looking for ''the trip of my life lol'' know what i mean. But im concerned about about the danger of taking a massive dose.


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Re: Eating extracted Psilocybin [Re: Thyrax]
    #10965478 - 08/30/09 12:48 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I can't see there being any physical danger in taking an oz. or less. Psilocybin and Psilocyn are fairly non-toxic and I'm pretty sure the LD50 would be in the 10's of lbs. for mushrooms. Don't quote me on that. I'm going to look it up on Erowid now, I'll be back in 5.

edit- Wiki says that it would take around 1.7 kg dried to reach the ld50 of rats. So in other words, don't eat any more than 2 lbs. Pshhh that shouldn't be a problem. lol.


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Re: Eating extracted Psilocybin [Re: Dr.Myco87]
    #10965754 - 08/30/09 01:55 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

And even with 15 ml, that's still only half an ounce of alcohol, pretty small for a normal-sized adult.


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Re: Eating extracted Psilocybin [Re: Doc_T]
    #10966303 - 08/30/09 03:39 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

alright thats some nice info you got me there :smirk: thx guys:grin:


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Re: Eating extracted Psilocybin [Re: Thyrax]
    #10967187 - 08/30/09 06:07 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

You folks are over-thinking it. The stuff is very soluble in water, even cold water.

I've been doing pan subbs which I need like 14 grams or more dry. That's caps like leather, stems like string and five bizzilion spore. My body can't digest that. I also had some negative trips that felt like some other alkaloids were messing with my buzz when I ate them.

Now I powder in a coffee grinder, pour powder into an 8 oz glass soda bottle, fill to very top [no air gap under cap] with distilled water and put in the door of the fridge for a couple of days. The door is so it gets gently shaken each time the door opens.
On the day of use, take it out and let it warm to room temp. When ready to drink, pour through a tee shirt or something and squeeze the mush. Put mush in cup, add two tablespoons lemon or lime juice, mix well and restrain juice into tea. Give it a few minutes then shoot it.
The cold water over time seems to get all the goodies and possibly other less soluble crap is left behind.
Some 'll claim loss of potency put I simply can't consume enough of the dried shroom without screwing up my guts. The cold tea puts me as far as I think you can go with this species.


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Re: Eating extracted Psilocybin [Re: Thyrax]
    #10967369 - 08/30/09 06:41 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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ive done a tea of 11g last time ... and It wasnt enough .. and tasted like fucking shit lol , this is why I want to try extract , to be able to eat the biggest possible dose, at is minimal size and at minimal nosea





This wouldn't be a problem with fresh or recently dried mushrooms. Never in a million years.


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Re: Eating extracted Psilocybin [Re: Shrazoom]
    #10967412 - 08/30/09 06:48 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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ive done a tea of 11g last time ... and It wasnt enough .. and tasted like fucking shit lol , this is why I want to try extract , to be able to eat the biggest possible dose, at is minimal size and at minimal nosea





This wouldn't be a problem with fresh or recently dried mushrooms. Never in a million years.




right, 3g (just dried) makes me ball up in bed and ride out the storm.:getstoned:


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Re: Eating extracted Psilocybin [Re: Thyrax]
    #10970644 - 08/31/09 03:17 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

There's also the research chemical 4-aco-dmt which metabolizes into psilocin. If you can't get mushrooms or don't want to extract it, but want pretty much the same experience minus eating mushrooms, look for this.


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