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 "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' 
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http://www.examiner.com/x-17593-NORML-Examiner~y2009m7d23-Drug-czar-blasts-medicinal-value-of-marijuana
Guess we got another John Walters on our hands. This shit pisses me off.
Opiates and Xanax are great medicine, but marijuana is dangerous. All I can say is FUCK the OBAMA administration.
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 Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: skatealex2]
#10728570 - 07/23/09 08:27 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Stop voting these shitheads in.
It's like we're stuck in the 1940's.
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: skatealex2]
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WHAT THE FUCK
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: robothax]
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lol sinse when did life become an endurance contest.
If drugs were deadly at least I would die high with a big grin on my face unlike the look on that pricks face lol.
He needs some weed to cheer him up.
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: robothax]
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I do not say this often, but hopefully this man dies. To ignore FACT is so fucking ignorant. He does not deserve air for being so stubborn.
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: Rocker232]
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: Rocker232]
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Poptart said:
lol sinse when did life become an endurance contest.
If drugs were deadly at least I would die high with a big grin on my face unlike the look on that pricks face lol.
He needs some weed to cheer him up.
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Rocker232 said:
I do not say this often, but hopefully this man dies. To ignore FACT is so fucking ignorant. He does not deserve air for being so stubborn.
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: fatso]
#10728784 - 07/23/09 09:01 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I don't really smoke Marijuana anymore, its not really for me.
However i've had this hella intense Flu the past few days. Went to a mates and had a few bongs last night and i shit you not, my sore throat almost completely dissipated and my fever reduced considerably. It's the first time i've ever felt Marijuana alleviate an illness.
It blew me away, now i understand all these people campaigning for medicinal weed!
So in saying that, fuck this guy!
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: fatso]
#10728790 - 07/23/09 09:02 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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somebody needs to take a bong rip
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: DepthToTheCore]
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However i've had this hella intense Flu the past few days. Went to a mates and had a few bongs last night and i shit you not, my sore throat almost completely dissipated and my fever reduced considerably. It's the first time i've ever felt Marijuana alleviate an illness.
You think that's good... try out a vaporizer.
I got hit by one of the worst flu's I've ever had 2 weeks back, got high as fuck 24/7 everyday with no discomfort.
Sickness + vapes = heaven 
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: DepthToTheCore]
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Last time I got seriously sick (about 12-13 years ago.. I think it was the flu), I just remember feeling like complete SHIT, I was wasted.
My friend came over with some really good bud.. I took one bong hit and almost all the symptoms just immediately went away.
My throat stopped hurting, my running nose dried up and sinuses cleared, it eased the body pains, made it so I could actually eat.. its a fucken miracle drug.
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: Chubba]
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Yeah man i've been saying that, but i wasn't willing to pay the money for a vape when i don't even smoke anymore. 2 bongs was enough relief for the whole night and i feel much better today. This flu has been intense.
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: skatealex2]
#10728851 - 07/23/09 09:15 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Wait, what? I thought Obama's drug czar was pro-pot? Did he not choose that guy?
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: fatso]
#10728875 - 07/23/09 09:19 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Here's the email I just wrote our good friend Gil
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Dear Gil Kerlikowske
I am writing you today to express my dismay at your recent claim that Cannabis is "dangerous and has no medicinal benefit." Your statement is erroneous and, like most statements made by your agency since its inception, blatantly disregards clear and reputable facts. Your assertion that Cannabis is dangerous defies a logical sense of danger. I would assume that you don't believe aspirin to be dangerous (I make this claim as you are not currently attempting to incarcerate anyone with a bottle of Tylenol), however aspirin kills approximately 7,600 people annually. Compare this to the whopping 0 of Cannabis. There has never in history been a case of a lethal dose of THC in a human. Where then do you draw your conclusion that Cannabis is a "dangerous" drug? Currently, the greatest danger Cannabis poses is the risk that armed brigands will break into your home, kidnap you at gun point, and keep you locked in subhuman conditions for an extended period of time. I refer of course to the D.E.A.
In regards to your claim that Cannabis has no medical value, you may just as well claim that the Earth is flat. Many peer-reviewed studies lend credence to the effectiveness of medical Cannabis in the treatment of a wide variety of ailments. THC provides beneficial effects in fighting Alzheimer's, Multiple Sclerosis, Brain Cancer, and, of all things, Lung Cancer. THC is proven, (that's proven, not theorized), to reduce the growth of tumors in the brain and lungs. I'm sure you will rebut with the oft-repeated mantra of "smoking is not medicine." Well sir, medical Cannabis can also be eaten (like the xanax and oxycontin pills that are apparently less dangerous), taken as a tincture, or vaporized. All of these methods eliminate any potential carcinogenic effect that smoking the plant would cause allowing the full medical benefit to reach the patient.
In conclusion sir, the real danger is your lies, and the lies of your mercenary agency. You said yourself that the war on drugs is in reality a war on the American people. Whatever ulterior motive you and your ilk have for oppressing users of Cannabis, you should consider whether it is worth the lives of the citizens you claim to protect. If it is, then I demand your resignation and a formal apology.
Sincerely
Gastronomicus
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: Learyfan]
#10728876 - 07/23/09 09:20 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Good evening, allies, friends, comrads, strangers, anyone on the f'ing net.
From Wikipedia:
On May 14, 2009, President Obama's new Drug Czar: Gil Kerlikowske, called for end to the 'War on Drugs'.[3]
In his first interview since being confirmed to head the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy with the Washington Post, Gil Kerlikowske said the bellicose analogy was a barrier to dealing with the nation's drug issues.
"Regardless of how you try to explain to people it's a 'war on drugs' or a 'war on a product,' people see a war as a war on them," he said. "We're not at war with people in this country."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_czar
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: fatso]
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fatso said:
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Poptart said:
lol sinse when did life become an endurance contest.
If drugs were deadly at least I would die high with a big grin on my face unlike the look on that pricks face lol.
He needs some weed to cheer him up.
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Rocker232 said:
I do not say this often, but hopefully this man dies. To ignore FACT is so fucking ignorant. He does not deserve air for being so stubborn.
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: skatealex2]
#10728906 - 07/23/09 09:24 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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What a fucking faggot.
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: AmericanPsycho]
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lol thats exacly what i thought wen i saw him
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: World Spirit]
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: Rocker232]
#10728944 - 07/23/09 09:29 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Rocker232 said:
I do not say this often, but hopefully this man dies. To ignore FACT is so fucking ignorant. He does not deserve air for being so stubborn.
it's his job, it's actually part of his job description
remember this is the same retard that said "end the war on drugs"
but really meant 'lets just call it something else'
"Regardless of how you try to explain to people it's a 'war on drugs' or a 'war on a product,' people see a war as a war on them," he said. "We're not at war with people in this country."
so when are we going to treat the war on drugs like a fucking
war, lets wage war on politics, it's not people that we're
fighting, it's stupidity in public office, now lets start
flooding the congressional and whitehouse switchboards and
emails with a mighty FUCK YOU
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: Gastronomicus]
#10728963 - 07/23/09 09:32 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Gastronomicus said:
Here's the email I just wrote our good friend Gil
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Dear Gil Kerlikowske
I am writing you today to express my dismay at your recent claim that Cannabis is "dangerous and has no medicinal benefit." Your statement is erroneous and, like most statements made by your agency since its inception, blatantly disregards clear and reputable facts. Your assertion that Cannabis is dangerous defies a logical sense of danger. I would assume that you don't believe aspirin to be dangerous (I make this claim as you are not currently attempting to incarcerate anyone with a bottle of Tylenol), however aspirin kills approximately 7,600 people annually. Compare this to the whopping 0 of Cannabis. There has never in history been a case of a lethal dose of THC in a human. Where then do you draw your conclusion that Cannabis is a "dangerous" drug? Currently, the greatest danger Cannabis poses is the risk that armed brigands will break into your home, kidnap you at gun point, and keep you locked in subhuman conditions for an extended period of time. I refer of course to the D.E.A.
In regards to your claim that Cannabis has no medical value, you may just as well claim that the Earth is flat. Many peer-reviewed studies lend credence to the effectiveness of medical Cannabis in the treatment of a wide variety of ailments. THC provides beneficial effects in fighting Alzheimer's, Multiple Sclerosis, Brain Cancer, and, of all things, Lung Cancer. THC is proven, (that's proven, not theorized), to reduce the growth of tumors in the brain and lungs. I'm sure you will rebut with the oft-repeated mantra of "smoking is not medicine." Well sir, medical Cannabis can also be eaten (like the xanax and oxycontin pills that are apparently less dangerous), taken as a tincture, or vaporized. All of these methods eliminate any potential carcinogenic effect that smoking the plant would cause allowing the full medical benefit to reach the patient.
In conclusion sir, the real danger is your lies, and the lies of your mercenary agency. You said yourself that the war on drugs is in reality a war on the American people. Whatever ulterior motive you and your ilk have for oppressing users of Cannabis, you should consider whether it is worth the lives of the citizens you claim to protect. If it is, then I demand your resignation and a formal apology.
Sincerely
Gastronomicus
Good letter -- this is the way to make a difference. Everyone who cares should write a similar letter of their own.
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: World Spirit]
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http://blogs.salon.com/0002762/stories/2007/10/09/theDrugCzarIsRequiredByLaw.html
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Most people know that the "drug czar" -- the director of the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy (ONDCP) -- is an advocate for the government position regarding the drug war. But not everyone knows that he and his office are mandated to tell lies as part of their Congressional authorization.
According to Title VII Office of National Drug Control Policy Reauthorization Act of 1998: H11225:
http://www.whitehousedrugpolicy.gov/about/98reauthorization.html
Responsibilities. --The Director-- [...]
(12) shall ensure that no Federal funds appropriated to the Office of National Drug Control Policy shall be expended for any study or contract relating to the legalization (for a medical use or any other use) of a substance listed in schedule I of section 202 of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 812) and take such actions as necessary to oppose any attempt to legalize the use of a substance (in any form) that--
1. is listed in schedule I of section 202 of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 812); and
2. has not been approved for use for medical purposes by the Food and Drug Administration;
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: laserpig]
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laserpig said:
Good letter -- this is the way to make a difference. Everyone who cares should write a similar letter of their own.
want to make a difference, show up on their doorsteps with the
press in tow, a letter does shit, they just respond with a
standard form letter and ignore what you want, put them on the
spot in front of the cameras and the nation takes notice at the
tools they've elected
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there are 923 words in the english language that do not follow the "I before E"
rule, there are 44 words in the english language that follow the rule. this is
the shit our education funding is paying for and these liberals want more money
for education to keep making students stupid
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: Gastronomicus]
#10728988 - 07/23/09 09:36 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
Gastronomicus said:
Here's the email I just wrote our good friend Gil
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Dear Gil Kerlikowske
I am writing you today to express my dismay at your recent claim that Cannabis is "dangerous and has no medicinal benefit." Your statement is erroneous and, like most statements made by your agency since its inception, blatantly disregards clear and reputable facts. Your assertion that Cannabis is dangerous defies a logical sense of danger. I would assume that you don't believe aspirin to be dangerous (I make this claim as you are not currently attempting to incarcerate anyone with a bottle of Tylenol), however aspirin kills approximately 7,600 people annually. Compare this to the whopping 0 of Cannabis. There has never in history been a case of a lethal dose of THC in a human. Where then do you draw your conclusion that Cannabis is a "dangerous" drug? Currently, the greatest danger Cannabis poses is the risk that armed brigands will break into your home, kidnap you at gun point, and keep you locked in subhuman conditions for an extended period of time. I refer of course to the D.E.A.
In regards to your claim that Cannabis has no medical value, you may just as well claim that the Earth is flat. Many peer-reviewed studies lend credence to the effectiveness of medical Cannabis in the treatment of a wide variety of ailments. THC provides beneficial effects in fighting Alzheimer's, Multiple Sclerosis, Brain Cancer, and, of all things, Lung Cancer. THC is proven, (that's proven, not theorized), to reduce the growth of tumors in the brain and lungs. I'm sure you will rebut with the oft-repeated mantra of "smoking is not medicine." Well sir, medical Cannabis can also be eaten (like the xanax and oxycontin pills that are apparently less dangerous), taken as a tincture, or vaporized. All of these methods eliminate any potential carcinogenic effect that smoking the plant would cause allowing the full medical benefit to reach the patient.
In conclusion sir, the real danger is your lies, and the lies of your mercenary agency. You said yourself that the war on drugs is in reality a war on the American people. Whatever ulterior motive you and your ilk have for oppressing users of Cannabis, you should consider whether it is worth the lives of the citizens you claim to protect. If it is, then I demand your resignation and a formal apology.
Sincerely
Gastronomicus
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Yes, a press event is more effective than a letter-writing campaign, but something tells me we're not going to get around to staging a press event.
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: Poptart]
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Look at the guy's face. Fucker can't even smile. Not shocking at all he says this.
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: Prisoner#1]
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dont need the feds involved, thanks anyway
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: kayabear]
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I feel bad for anyone who hasn't tried Marijuana yet feels they have the right to accuse it of something. Marijuana is such a lovely plant, its given me more than any medicine I have ever taken.
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: laserpig]
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laserpig said:
Yes, a press event is more effective than a letter-writing campaign, but something tells me we're not going to get around to staging a press event.
something tells me that the government propaganda isnt
propaganda after all, potheads are a lazy bunch, sure they talk
a mean game and say they want change but they arent willing to
break away from the oh, so important play station and doritos to
make something happen, set an appointment, bring a camera, a
couple of friends and have a meeting, get to know you're
representatives and corner them on the issues, put it on the
web, sent it to CNN, it doesnt matter but the more people you
bring the better your chances of national media and the more
it's in the public eye
insist that this issue be put on the ballots for the mid term
elections, remind them that their jobs depend on your votes
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there are 923 words in the english language that do not follow the "I before E"
rule, there are 44 words in the english language that follow the rule. this is
the shit our education funding is paying for and these liberals want more money
for education to keep making students stupid
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: Prisoner#1]
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How can he say it has no medicinal benefit ???? When it obviously does........
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: AmericanPsycho]
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brcause it's his job to say that, that's why I warned everyone
when obama was picking a drug czar that the position needed to be
done away with... does anyone ever listen?
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there are 923 words in the english language that do not follow the "I before E"
rule, there are 44 words in the english language that follow the rule. this is
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for education to keep making students stupid
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: Prisoner#1]
#10729070 - 07/23/09 09:52 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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That's why the keep it schedule 1 also
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Quote:
Prisoner#1 said:
couple of friends and have a meeting, get to know you're
representatives and corner them on the issues, put it on the
web, sent it to CNN, it doesnt matter but the more people you
bring the better your chances of national media and the more
it's in the public eye
insist that this issue be put on the ballots for the mid term
elections, remind them that their jobs depend on your votes
 I've been thinking there has to be a good way to take advantage of the news and government ignorance on marijuana
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: AmericanPsycho]
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How can he say it has no medicinal benefit ???? When it obviously does........
Its the drug czar
Where u expecting a "Marijuana is magic" from him?
Regaurdless though, i dont understand how someone can be allowed to blantently lie to the public. It sickens me how stupid are society is at times, really cannabis will have you jailed, but you can smoke cigs and drink till u die, without any legal action. Lame
I guess since pot cant kill you though, it has to be illegal. We cant have people using safer drugs though, it would lead to chaos!
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: Prisoner#1]
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brcause it's his job to say that, that's why I warned everyone
when obama was picking a drug czar that the position needed to be
done away with... does anyone ever listen?
What are you expecting? You rant, they change government offices around?
You're gettin' awful preachy here -- have you yourself done any of these things we all "should?"
On the topic of "the propaganda" being correct as regards laziness, I agree with you. There is actual evidence for the existence of so-called "amotivational syndrome" from marijuana use, and I'm not sure any stoner who's honest with themselves would deny it.
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: laserpig]
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I agree marijuana has a little bit of anti motivation effect.
but it is not illegal to be lazy and if it effects you that way then you probably shouldn't be wake and baking! As long as I don't smoke in the morning I can function just fine- vaping works though!
TV probably creates more lazy people then marijuana!
besides- if you are so lazy that you can't support yourself- then you probably wont be able to afford to buy marijuana or at the very least will be living a shitty life when you reach a certain point.
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: skatealex2]
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i agree with all of the comments in regards to this guy's face. you can tell he has no idea what he is talking about. probably on a whole host of prescriptions
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: skatealex2]
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Let him do what he wants to the country . I'll still blaze every day . 
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: skatealex2]
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http://www.examiner.com/x-17593-NORML-Examiner~y2009m7d23-Drug-czar-blasts-medicinal-value-of-marijuana
Guess we got another John Walters on our hands. This shit pisses me off.
Opiates and Xanax are great medicine, but marijuana is dangerous. All I can say is FUCK the OBAMA administration.
Guess it's really just more of the same
Yeah, this makes me extremely angry!
Xanax should not be looked at as a safe, great medicine. If you stop taking it cold-turkey after using it for a while, the withdrawals can LITERALLY KILL YOU. Not to mention when you're on Xanax, all it takes is a couple bars and a six-pack of beer to make you very likely to overdose and die, depending on your tolerance.
Also, if you mix opiates with benzos, you are increasing your likelihood of accidental death greatly unless you are careful/have a high tolerance.
When you "withdraw" from pot, all that happens is that you get a little more inclined to sleep and you have a slight drop in appetite, and you get mental thoughts of wanting to smoke. THATS IT. It's nothing compared to withdrawals from opiates or benzos. NOTHING.
And yet, they have the balls to say that pharms are safer drugs. They just want more money stuffed in their greedy pockets.
These guys are the definition of evil.
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: laserpig]
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You're gettin' awful preachy here -- have you yourself done any of these things we all "should?"
yes and monday morning I'll be asking one of my reps why he still has no stance on marijuana or drugs in general
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On the topic of "the propaganda" being correct as regards laziness, I agree with you. There is actual evidence for the existence of so-called "amotivational syndrome" from marijuana use, and I'm not sure any stoner who's honest with themselves would deny it.
I'm willing to go out on a limb and say that a study will be
released in the next several years that shows marijuana to be
like coffee, it's personality dependent, those that like to
procrastinate and generally be lazy will be more inclined when
stoned, those that tend to have higher energy levels, the OCD
types will tend to be more driven while under the influence, I
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: skatealex2]
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couple of friends and have a meeting, get to know you're
representatives and corner them on the issues, put it on the
web, sent it to CNN, it doesnt matter but the more people you
bring the better your chances of national media and the more
it's in the public eye
insist that this issue be put on the ballots for the mid term
elections, remind them that their jobs depend on your votes
I've been thinking there has to be a good way to take advantage of the news and government ignorance on marijuana
I can think of two ways.
A.) Sell marijuana.
B.) Become a Drug Czar
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: HeroMike]
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I was talking with a dealer earlier about legalization and I'm like "if it gets legalized you get put out of business"
the funniest part is that it's so easy to be a marijuana dealer. I personally wouldn't do it but it's such an easy/money making business that the government is putting in the hands of random people
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Let him do what he wants to the country . I'll still blaze every day .
agree. but having legal weed at 7/11's worldwide would be heaven, not to mention- that marijuana is still considered a crime
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: skatealex2]
#10770760 - 07/30/09 10:12 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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The White House sent a response to the thousands of letters they have been receiving about the drug czar's comments.
Fuck you Drug Czar!!!
http://blog.mpp.org/medical-marijuana/the-drug-czar%E2%80%99s-response-to-our-letters/07302009/
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: skatealex2]
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On April 20th, 2006, the FDA issued an advisory concluding that no sound scientific
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: UnholyChild666]
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: skatealex2]
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: OrganizedChaos]
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: Prisoner#1]
#10771434 - 07/31/09 12:35 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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marijuana is a dangerous addicting chemical! it will be the downfall of America o_O geet geet! make sure all ur 4 year olds are taking there adderal script!
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: skatealex2]
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: skatealex2]
#10771703 - 07/31/09 01:31 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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okay what the fuck is that kid doing
i have thrown a toy plane and that is very clearly not how it's done
is he like reaching for an orange or what
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: laserpig]
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: Prisoner#1]
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There are so many reasons$ to keep ganjaberries legal
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: snoot]
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http://www.komonews.com/home/video/52646592.html
fuck the drug czar!!!!!!!! once again - this guys is terrible -he say's in this interview that he was addressing marijuana in smoked form and he wants to leave it at that.
but we all know how help marijuana even in smoked form can be for nausea and things like that . fuck this guy!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: skatealex2]
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Yeah well, when I run out of pot, I get real depressed. Marijuana cures that! 
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: skatealex2]
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wow.. well screw that shmuck. smoking up right now for that blast of ignorance.
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: BrandNewbie]
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Yeah well, when I run out of pot, I get real depressed. Marijuana cures that!
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: Learyfan]
#10826188 - 08/09/09 05:04 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Wait, what? I thought Obama's drug czar was pro-pot? Did he not choose that guy?
You sure you're not thinking of the AG?
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: Learyfan]
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Learyfan said:
Wait, what? I thought Obama's drug czar was pro-pot? Did he not choose that guy?
I thought so too. I guess I missed the good news.
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: Prisoner#1]
#10826278 - 08/09/09 05:58 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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That suit is a piece of shit and he looks like an asshole.
Fuck him, fuck all the suits.
Legalization...let's save this country some money instead of blowing a huge portion of it arresting us for victimless crimes.
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: mdb311]
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We seriously need everyone who smokes cannabis in this country to all go outside one day and light up at the same fucking time. That will crush the wall.
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: skatealex2]
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: laserpig]
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okay what the fuck is that kid doing
i have thrown a toy plane and that is very clearly not how it's done
is he like reaching for an orange or what
He's walking like a Zombie, I mean come on, he IS on adderall.
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: Prisoner#1]
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My grandmother just died of kidney cancer. Marijuana alleviated her pain and nausea at the end. Legalize everything. It's my body. I can't stand those bloody fools and no one I vote for will ever get elected.
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: AlteredAgain]
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AlteredAgain said:
We seriously need everyone who smokes cannabis in this country to all go outside one day and light up at the same fucking time. That will crush the wall.
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: Rocker232]
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I do not say this often, but hopefully this man dies. To ignore FACT is so fucking ignorant. He does not deserve air for being so stubborn.
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: Prisoner#1]
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However i've had this hella intense Flu the past few days. Went to a mates and had a few bongs last night and i shit you not, my sore throat almost completely dissipated and my fever reduced considerably. It's the first time i've ever felt Marijuana alleviate an illness.
You think that's good... try out a vaporizer.
I got hit by one of the worst flu's I've ever had 2 weeks back, got high as fuck 24/7 everyday with no discomfort.
Sickness vapes = heaven
I bought one of those vaporizor pipes for when i go on vacation. well guess i was wrong on how descrete it could be. the thing takes forever to heat up, and thats using the big blue torch. And after you get a good hit the sucker is so hot you cant even take off the top to load another bowl. There would be no way me and my gf could put it in our pockets if we needed to. Planned on being able to smoke while walking on the beach. Guess we will have to say fuck it and smoke out of my normal pipe...
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: Prisoner#1]
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It is the job of the Drug Czar to say such things, to say things against what he is told to say would be a surefire way to lose his job. Until there is a large majority of support for medical marijuana, the ONDCP cannot support that it has medical value, otherwise it could not be Schedule I
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: suburbanned]
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its like how Paul Stemets has nothing against growing and talking about cubes, but for legal reason he stays away from those situations now. The same can be said how we try to protect our sponsors by not plugging their name with an illegal grow. If they had more support from higher ups then they wouldnt need to have all the protection.
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: suburbanned]
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majority of american's support marijuana decriminalization and I would guess the same would be for medical marijuana.
it's sad that we still have to deal with all this propaganda bullshit .
i think weed's biggest hope is with the Cali initiative , if that goes through- there is a good chance more states will start following. if there is a g0d, I pray that he allows this to happen
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: suburbanned]
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It is the job of the Drug Czar to say such things, to say things against what he is told to say would be a surefire way to lose his job. Until there is a large majority of support for medical marijuana, the ONDCP cannot support that it has medical value, otherwise it could not be Schedule I
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: feifen]
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I think its hilarious that he has the title of Czar. Makes me picture him as some evil, authoritative monarch from the 1600s, suppressing us poor cannabis users.
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: skatealex2]
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skatealex2 said:
http://www.examiner.com/x-17593-NORML-Examiner~y2009m7d23-Drug-czar-blasts-medicinal-value-of-marijuana
Guess we got another John Walters on our hands. This shit pisses me off.
Opiates and Xanax are great medicine, but marijuana is dangerous. All I can say is FUCK the OBAMA administration.
Guess it's really just more of the same
Obama? Honestly, I am not surprised in any way at all. fuck you obamaniacs.
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: Syle]
#10983771 - 09/02/09 02:24 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Holy shit we need to get everyone in the country to send a HUGE ddos attack to all of these people and the government.
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: Syle]
#10984237 - 09/02/09 04:23 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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http://www.examiner.com/x-17593-NORML-Examiner~y2009m7d23-Drug-czar-blasts-medicinal-value-of-marijuana
Guess we got another John Walters on our hands. This shit pisses me off.
Opiates and Xanax are great medicine, but marijuana is dangerous. All I can say is FUCK the OBAMA administration.
Guess it's really just more of the same
Obama? Honestly, I am not surprised in any way at all. fuck you obamaniacs.
When people were voting and saying how awsome he was going to be, i was like ya... You have your moment of glory, cause i knew it wouldnt last long before he was just another president who fucked up...
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: TacoHerder]
#10984271 - 09/02/09 04:37 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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He hasn't really fucked up so far
I'm happy with my vote
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: Gastronomicus]
#10984289 - 09/02/09 04:44 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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besides the fact he trying to force kids to go thru boot camp before they can graduate HS... I'm not even about to go it no it but he is a liar, which shouldn't surprise me considering he is nothing more than a mear scapegoat.
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: TacoHerder]
#10984990 - 09/02/09 10:09 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Obama is a punk ass. I know the guy has to support legalization, but he's also too politically savvy to know that would hurt his career. He's a fucking sellout.
He won the election due to a record number of young voters, which that demographic has the largest support for legalization, yet he doesn't give a fuck.
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: Deltron3030]
#10985018 - 09/02/09 10:14 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Because he has been in officer for all of... 7 months?
get real homo if your only basis on liking a president is the legalizing of drugs, you've got your head up your ass.
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: skatealex2]
#10985088 - 09/02/09 10:28 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: suburbanned]
#10985295 - 09/02/09 11:13 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Because he has been in officer for all of... 7 months?
get real homo if your only basis on liking a president is the legalizing of drugs, you've got your head up your ass.
 is a fucking douche. he has bigger problems then drug policy- although it is disappointing that he wont at least decriminalize the herb, which more then half of America supports
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: skatealex2]
#10986880 - 09/02/09 04:17 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Couple things:
First off, this guy is the drug czar. Him saying 'yeah pot isnt so bad' equates to he saying 'yeah I don't really think I need to do this job anymore or get paid anymore for this'. If you worked at mcdonalds and depended on that income to survuve, would you go in one day and be like 'i think im contributing to obesity so I dont think my job should be done anymore'.
As for Obama, he is trying to push forward with the health care reform. Going off and trying to support risky progressive ideas such as these drug related issues are dangerous politicaly for his #1 concern (getting re elected). If we see any action on his part concerning this, it would almost definitely be in his second term (if he has one).
Next, the majority supports medical MJ, and when the people vote it in at the state level, the federal govt comes in and overrules it? This is a major problem here and NOT what america is supposed to be about at all. The fed govt could have a 'domestic terrorist police force' be created under 'emergency circumstances' and have federal soldiers patrolling the streets for ambiguous 'terrorists'. And then even if a state votes to remove said soldiers then what? The fed just says too bad again? Back in the day if the govt tried to pull shady power moves like this, the people would be out with pitchforks and torches surrounding their office with them shaking scared inside.
Finally, when these cancer patients plead innocent to medical MJ charges, do these DEA guys really go in to court, look them in the eyes and say 'you are a criminal who needs to be locked up away from society'?
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: suburbanned]
#10987124 - 09/02/09 04:54 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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suburbantoker said:
Because he has been in officer for all of... 7 months?
get real homo if your only basis on liking a president is the legalizing of drugs, you've got your head up your ass.
1. He's said on record he doesn't support legalization.
2. I'm a political science major, I know a thing or two about politics and public policy, and yeah legalization of drugs is a big issue for me. It impacts me a lot more than other issues being spewed about now.
3. I voted for him, yet I'm starting to regret that because he seems to be leaving the youth out to dry when we were the ones who got him elected.
4. Learn to use your shift key, homo.
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: skatealex2]
#10989558 - 09/03/09 12:25 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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FUCK OBAMA!!!!!! Bush might even be a better president
Wow, you sir are fucking clueless.
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: Deltron3030]
#10989622 - 09/03/09 12:34 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Deltron3030 said:
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suburbantoker said:
Because he has been in officer for all of... 7 months?
get real homo if your only basis on liking a president is the legalizing of drugs, you've got your head up your ass.
1. He's said on record he doesn't support legalization.
2. I'm a political science major, I know a thing or two about politics and public policy, and yeah legalization of drugs is a big issue for me. It impacts me a lot more than other issues being spewed about now.
3. I voted for him, yet I'm starting to regret that because he seems to be leaving the youth out to dry when we were the ones who got him elected.
4. Learn to use your shift key, homo.
yeah, you being able to smoke pot, and my low use of a shift key, is really a high priority for the american people. to think that him not legalizing drugs is "leaving the youth out to dry" ...  . he has also said on record that he supports decriminalization. once again, your tyrade to legalize drugs is NOT (i used shift instead of caps lock just for you on that) a high priority, and SHOULDN'T (i used caps that time, sorry) be a high priority when there are MUCH (shift once again) bigger issues to deal with. kerlikowske also is moving forward programs to get help for drug users instead of sending them to prison, which is an overall shift in public policy. do you ignore this because it isn't exactly what you want?
once again, get real homo
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: skatealex2]
#10989655 - 09/03/09 12:39 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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What a faggot
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: P2K1]
#10989978 - 09/03/09 01:33 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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P2K1 said:
What a faggot
at least bush wasn't pushing health care on everyone
and bush was funny to watch.
obama is a robot
Edited by skatealex2 (09/03/09 01:34 AM)
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: skatealex2]
#10990877 - 09/03/09 06:50 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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skatealex2 said:
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suburbantoker said:
Because he has been in officer for all of... 7 months?
get real homo if your only basis on liking a president is the legalizing of drugs, you've got your head up your ass.
is a fucking douche. he has bigger problems then drug policy- although it is disappointing that he wont at least decriminalize the herb, which more then half of America supports
FUCK OBAMA!!!!!! Bush might even be a better president
  
That's adorable.
Yeah, man, if only Bush were preznit agin,
we could smoke all the weed we wanted AND watch World War (what is it now, VI?) on TV.
Yee Haw!
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: ChairmanMeow]
#10991847 - 09/03/09 12:43 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: Prisoner#1]
#10991911 - 09/03/09 12:56 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Good letter -- this is the way to make a difference. Everyone who cares should write a similar letter of their own.
want to make a difference, show up on their doorsteps with the
press in tow, a letter does shit, they just respond with a
standard form letter and ignore what you want, put them on the
spot in front of the cameras and the nation takes notice at the
tools they've elected
I want to do this with a passion.
LETTERS aren't shit.
We need face to face action
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: skatealex2]
#10991912 - 09/03/09 12:56 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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One of the major problems, is that there are very few well-controlled HUMAN studies showing beneficial effects of MJ, if any.
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: suburbanned]
#10991923 - 09/03/09 12:58 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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yeah, you being able to smoke pot, and my low use of a shift key, is really a high priority for the american people. to think that him not legalizing drugs is "leaving the youth out to dry" ... . he has also said on record that he supports decriminalization. once again, your tyrade to legalize drugs is NOT (i used shift instead of caps lock just for you on that) a high priority, and SHOULDN'T (i used caps that time, sorry) be a high priority when there are MUCH (shift once again) bigger issues to deal with. kerlikowske also is moving forward programs to get help for drug users instead of sending them to prison, which is an overall shift in public policy. do you ignore this because it isn't exactly what you want?
I actually have to agree (minus the homo comments.) I place more blame on our democratic system than I do on Obama. Pushing for legalization is political suicide, especially in his first term. This goes for any president. So bitch about Obama all you want, at this time in history I find it hard to imagine any president attempting it. You can thank bureaucracy and democracy for that.
As much as I want to see cannabis legalized, it is not on the top of my list of priorities. Right now I'd rather see us deal with the environment, recover from the financial crisis and do something about healthcare than have the freedom to light up a joint in public.
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: Tranquil Toad]
#10992016 - 09/03/09 01:16 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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true- it could be a bad move for Obama to legalize weed right now with all the other issues going on and it obviously isn't close to the most important issue right now.
but it was kind of a slap in the face when he answered the town hall question like he did
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Re: "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit" - Drug Czar -'Gil Kerlikowske' [Re: skatealex2]
#10992098 - 09/03/09 01:38 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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thats absurd. id like to know why though! it's obvious that that's a question on lots of peoples minds, hence why it was brought up in that debate, and the response we got was him laughing it away as nonsense and not elaborating on why it won't benefit the economy. the man's an outright traitor to the american people.
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