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 shroomiin
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 Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics  [Re: joyless]
#16190326 - 05/06/12 02:57 PM (1 year, 17 days ago) |
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Mini mono- Equador MS to straight coir/verm.
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 jingus
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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: Doc_T]
#17327937 - 12/03/12 07:09 PM (5 months, 15 days ago) |
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Doc_T said:
They are all important.
GE is absolutely essential during colonization. FAE is required during fruiting. But humidity of the correct level is also important, all throughout the life cycle. It's a balancing act.
Is this the way most people do things with mono-tubs or mini-mono-tubs these days?
I thought that while a tub was colonizing, it's best to tape all the holes shut and allow it to colonize with the air it's got stored in the box.
You say that you just leave it in a plastic bag and let it breathe a little fresh air once or twice? Is that worth the chance of introducing contaminants? If someone made a mono-tub or a mini-monotub shotgun style and taped all the holes shut for colonization, would you say they should take the lid off and give it a breath of fresh air sometime before fruiting?
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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: jingus]
#17327997 - 12/03/12 07:18 PM (5 months, 15 days ago) |
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No, when a monotub colonizes the holes should be taped and the lid should stay on until its 100%.
It's not really about letting contams in, it's about letting the co2 out and FAE in, FAE is a main pinning trigger and could make the tub pin early if FAE is introdused at the wrong time.
A fully colonized jar/substrate is for the most part contam resistant, so is a pasteurized bulk substrate, so contams should not be the problem.
A lot of people just let the imperfect lid of the tub provide the GE.
You want high co2 for colonization and FAE for fruiting.
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Edited by Notahacker420 (12/03/12 07:20 PM)
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Synth Ethics
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I have questions for those who did this type of mini-mono hybrid.
how do you mix the spawn and the substrate without making a mess?
I did one yesterday and was talked out of mixing in the pasteurisation bucket so I did it in the FC. just as I expected it made a mess, it spilled tru the many holes and sticked to the side a LOT. had to wipe with a scott towel and didn't managed to get it 100% clean.
I'm thinking of using a bag and trimming the exces when done or do as I wanted and mix everything in the bucket and then just pour to taste.
how do yall do it?
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Kavince
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Quote:
Synth Ethics said:
I have questions for those who did this type of mini-mono hybrid.
how do you mix the spawn and the substrate without making a mess?
I did one yesterday and was talked out of mixing in the pasteurisation bucket so I did it in the FC. just as I expected it made a mess, it spilled tru the many holes and sticked to the side a LOT. had to wipe with a scott towel and didn't managed to get it 100% clean.
I'm thinking of using a bag and trimming the exces when done or do as I wanted and mix everything in the bucket and then just pour to taste.
how do yall do it?
I can't answer your question but why did you specify what brand of paper towel you used? For some reason that made me laugh so hard  .
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Edited by Kavince (03/12/13 07:15 PM)
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I do not use these kind of tubs, I use regular monos, but the point is the same, and you nailed it, liners.
If you line the bottom with a thin and cheap trash bag liner, you can trim off the excess when your done mixing.
This accomplishes 2 things, for one it makes it less messy, and 2 it helps reduce/eliminate side pinning.
People used to think light was the cause of side pinning, so they taped the bottoms of the tubs.
But that is not the case, FAE hitting the sides causes side pins, so to eliminate them, use a trash bag liner that will shrink with the substrate, eliminating the microclimate and stopping FAE from hitting the sides of the substrate.
 
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Edited by Notahacker420 (03/12/13 06:21 PM)
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Synth Ethics
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@notahacker: cool, lesson learned. it's just that doc-t said early in this thread that he likes this kind of tub better without a bag and I wanted to follow the "tek" exactly. it's my first time with grain spawn so I didn't wanted to fuck it up.
@kavince: lol, that's just how we say paper towel here. no matter what brand it is it's a "scott towel" just like any refrigerator is a "frigidaire" (french canadian slang for ya  )
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Some do skip the bag...I like to use one. NotA nailed it with
that last bit: it sticks to the sub and shrinks with it.
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Synth Ethics
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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: Javadog]
#17961116 - 03/15/13 05:48 PM (2 months, 6 days ago) |
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SRHooM said:
Hey doc, Did you let your tubs consolidate or fruit right after colonization?
& you did NOT use a casing layer, correct?
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Doc_T said:
I don't even let them all get to 100%. No casing. CCV.
should I consolidate or not?
it's been spawned monday evening and the coir is already quite colonized and nicely white looking.
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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: sushi84]
#18184667 - 04/29/13 04:01 AM (24 days, 12 hours ago) |
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I have a question, I'm using 50 50 horse manure/straw mix along with a casing, when you mist this do you directly mist the casing or just sides of the tub? Thanks!
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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: akaddict]
#18185016 - 04/29/13 07:16 AM (24 days, 8 hours ago) |
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Direct misting.
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