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 Re: Something everyone here should understand about the Middle East/Islam  [Re: Starter]
#10609488 - 07/02/09 02:16 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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in my professional opinion I thought that the picture was far more interesting and important than anything else in the thread.
if anything else I would think that everyone, islam and non-islam, could set aside their differences and bask in the glory that is two chicks making out.
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Re: Something everyone here should understand about the Middle East/Islam [Re: blewmeanie]
#10609491 - 07/02/09 02:16 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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So you're saying it's acceptable for people to emmulate/exalt a man whose actions (of his day) are in gross conflict with today?
Btw, I'm not American so your quaint ethnocentric analogies make not an iota of difference to me.
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Re: Something everyone here should understand about the Middle East/Islam [Re: Starter]
#10609494 - 07/02/09 02:17 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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The fact is, no modern man of today's values can accept Mohammad was a man of real value for today. Mohammad was a pedophile and is definitely so in this modern age where reason and enlightenment exposes his as a molestor of a child.
This age of reason and enlightenment...
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Re: Something everyone here should understand about the Middle East/Islam [Re: Rocker232]
#10609498 - 07/02/09 02:18 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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hahah i wouldnt exactly consider us reasoned and enlightened. perhaps more so than previous peoples, but we definitely aren't anywhere near the apex yet
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Re: Something everyone here should understand about the Middle East/Islam [Re: Starter]
#10609507 - 07/02/09 02:19 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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So you're saying it's acceptable for people to emmulate/exalt a man whose actions (of his day) are in gross conflict with today?
Btw, I'm not American so your quaint ethnocentric analogies make not an iota of difference to me.
It wasn't ethnocentric, it was a mirror image of the your analogy into my culture. You logic fails again.
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Re: Something everyone here should understand about the Middle East/Islam [Re: Rocker232]
#10609526 - 07/02/09 02:25 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Okay Rocker232, have a laugh and then put that to the test. Go molest a 9 year old child in the manner of Mohammad - the man you appear to wax lyrical over, and I doubt the shroomery will see you in the next 5 to 20.
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Re: Something everyone here should understand about the Middle East/Islam [Re: Starter]
#10609545 - 07/02/09 02:29 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1, that's a fiar question. Sure, back then, in the 7th century they would bury female babies alive in the sand, because they had no need of them as males were far more valued (e.g., as workers or warriors).
proof please, dont need a bunch of hate fueled fear spewing bullshit
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But lets flick fast forward to now, to the 21st Century,
no, lets address the foundation of islam and mohomed and his wife sarah, that's where we started, it seems o be the root of your issues with islam especially after a comment like this
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So you condone sexual abuse of a 9 year old child in the name of religion, eh? Vile.
And you dare call me ignorant. In the 21st Century there's no need for Islam or its apologists.
now, who says there's no need, you? by what authority do you have dominion to say when there is or isnot a need
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there should be no tolerance
that seems to sum it up nicely, you must truly be enlightened since you're the atheist
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None have proof of their assertions
and your proof that there is no god?
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yet they insist all must respect their "values and beliefs",
yet you insist that the religious respect yours
[qiote] even to the point of respecting their prophet who was a pedophile. Again, a pedophile who would have been acceptable in his 7th Century day, but certainly not by laws of Western 21st Century societies (certainly not in Australia).
the easiest way to rid yourself of your demons, ignore them, you
dont have to spew your anger to everyone that chooses to respect
other people, not the religion, it's obvious you have no respect
for either
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Re: Something everyone here should understand about the Middle East/Islam [Re: Starter]
#10609546 - 07/02/09 02:29 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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You need to look at things from a perspective OTHER THAN YOUR OWN. What you are doing is called ethnocentrism. You cannot perceive other cultures because are using your own culture as a standard.
Who the fuck are you to say another counQuote:
blewmeanie said:
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Starter said:
So you're saying it's acceptable for people to emmulate/exalt a man whose actions (of his day) are in gross conflict with today?
Btw, I'm not American so your quaint ethnocentric analogies make not an iota of difference to me.
It wasn't ethnocentric, it was a mirror image of the your analogy into my culture. You logic fails again.
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Okay Rocker232, have a laugh and then put that to the test. Go molest a 9 year old child in the manner of Mohammad - the man you appear to wax lyrical over, and I doubt the shroomery will see you in the next 5 to 20.
Can you read?
I think its wrong by ever definition of the word. But how the fuck can you see it as wrong when EVERYONE was doing it in the time it was done? You want to condemn white people for having slaves back in the day? Go ahead, but guess what you would have been the outsider with that attitude. You need to look at things in their context man. If you can't do that then stay out of topics. Out of curiosity did you go to college/university? Have you ever taken a sociology class or anything of the sort?
I look at your ratings and you seem like a cool guy but you have a serious misunderstanding of how the world works. Your "enlightenment" means nothing when you cannot even see outside of your own time period/culture. You just reek of ignorance. Calling me a pedophile? Uncalled for. Maybe when you get some education or grow a bigger brain this topic will make more sense to you.
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Re: Something everyone here should understand about the Middle East/Islam [Re: Starter]
#10609556 - 07/02/09 02:32 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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The fact is, no modern man of today's values can accept Mohammad was a man of real value for today. Mohammad was a pedophile and is definitely so in this modern age where reason and enlightenment exposes his as a molestor of a child.
what about the other child molesters, other muslims where these
marriages still take place, couldnt they accept all this?
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Re: Something everyone here should understand about the Middle East/Islam [Re: blewmeanie]
#10609557 - 07/02/09 02:32 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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If the founding fathers were slave owners and the constitution disallowed slavery, then your spin of past child pedophilia being acceptable, doesn't gain some legal weight today. Face the facts, times move on and you're arguing (if that's what you're doing?) for some sort of clemency for a past monster's deeds is, well, farcical.
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Re: Something everyone here should understand about the Middle East/Islam [Re: Prisoner#1]
#10609567 - 07/02/09 02:34 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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prisoner#1, sadly they did and in fact to this day they do. The sordid pedophilia continues and is allowed by the spin and enabling of the cult of Islam.
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Re: Something everyone here should understand about the Middle East/Islam [Re: Starter]
#10609569 - 07/02/09 02:34 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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If the founding fathers were slave owners and the constitution disallowed slavery, then your spin of past child pedophilia being acceptable, doesn't gain some legal weight today. Face the facts, times move on and you're arguing (if that's what you're doing?) for some sort of clemency for a past monster's deeds is, well, farcical.
so all muslims in the middle east are governed under the US
constitution and the laws of this land? even those that were
born 1500 years ago?
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Re: Something everyone here should understand about the Middle East/Islam [Re: Starter]
#10609570 - 07/02/09 02:35 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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If the founding fathers were slave owners and the constitution disallowed slavery, then your spin of past child pedophilia being acceptable, doesn't gain some legal weight today. Face the facts, times move on and you're arguing (if that's what you're doing?) for some sort of clemency for a past monster's deeds is, well, farcical.
LEARN TO READ PLEASE AND THEN RETURN.
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Re: Something everyone here should understand about the Middle East/Islam [Re: Rocker232]
#10609578 - 07/02/09 02:36 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Did I call you a pedophile?
Give me the quote where I did?
You're ranting and making no sense.
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Re: Something everyone here should understand about the Middle East/Islam [Re: Starter]
#10609579 - 07/02/09 02:37 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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prisoner#1, sadly they did and in fact to this day they do. The sordid pedophilia continues and is allowed by the spin and enabling of the cult of Islam.
not my laws, not my culture, it has no bearing on my life, my
culture, my heritage, my laws... long destroyed by white people
what makes you any better than the muslims
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Re: Something everyone here should understand about the Middle East/Islam [Re: Starter]
#10609583 - 07/02/09 02:38 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Did I call you a pedophile?
Give me the quote where I did?
You're ranting and making no sense.
LEARN TO READ PLEASE.
I have nothing more to say to you. Do I need to dumb it down for you?
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Re: Something everyone here should understand about the Middle East/Islam [Re: Rocker232]
#10609602 - 07/02/09 02:41 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Do I need to dumb it down for you?
understand why I view atheism as a religion, the hatred and intolerance is on par with christianity and islam
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Re: Something everyone here should understand about the Middle East/Islam [Re: Prisoner#1]
#10609617 - 07/02/09 02:43 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1, the majority of the Muslim world is free of the US sphere, insofar as not being bombed into submission for their oil or some other geological transgression. Point is, they're still backwards to the the progressive direction the West has achieved, and this is evidenced in their lacking of intellectual development.
In fact Islam (while it was once centuries ahead of the West), is now laghing far behind. Modern Islam (if you can forgive the term?) is increasingly fundamentalist and repressive, and one of the great ironies of leftists who have fostered progressive thinking, now defend an iron ages belief system which would, if it reaches power, put them to the sword. I guess the irony is too un-PeeCee to bear.
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Re: Something everyone here should understand about the Middle East/Islam [Re: Prisoner#1]
#10609638 - 07/02/09 02:47 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1, I'm not aware of what your race/background is and how then "whites" did you down, but you appear online and able to express free speech. Perhaps the US is far more repressed than Australia? But you appear to have issues of feeling the victim.
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Re: Something everyone here should understand about the Middle East/Islam [Re: Starter]
#10609658 - 07/02/09 02:51 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1, the majority of the Muslim world is free of the US sphere, insofar as not being bombed into submission for their oil or some other geological transgression. Point is, they're still backwards to the the progressive direction the West has achieved, and this is evidenced in their lacking of intellectual development.
In fact Islam (while it was once centuries ahead of the West), is now laghing far behind. Modern Islam (if you can forgive the term?) is increasingly fundamentalist and repressive, and one of the great ironies of leftists who have fostered progressive thinking, now defend an iron ages belief system which would, if it reaches power, put them to the sword. I guess the irony is too un-PeeCee to bear.
Lacking in their intellectual development? What are you using as reference, technology?
You are missing the point, who are you to say that you are better than anyone else? Do you believe in good and evil too?
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