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 Az0th
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 Re: Help me building new high end gaming rig!  [Re: Polati]
#10715366 - 07/21/09 03:42 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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yeah I could get a quad core and a 9800 for half the price and be like WOAH MAN I GOT 80 FPS IN WOW
but then what happens when I want to run Starcraft 2 on max settings, while having 15 programs open in the background! What happens then!!
And what about the expansion for starcraft 2??? They will have i9s or whateverthefuck out by then, and quad cores will be trash.
It will be all about the 16 core 9.7Ghz chips that are out
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 makaveli8x8
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Re: Help me building new high end gaming rig! [Re: Az0th]
#10717219 - 07/21/09 09:36 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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your only 2-3 months away from the release of ati's new line of dx11 cards. you said your building this system to play the games of the future, so you should wait a bit and just use an older card. if not then i would actually suggest the 275 or 4890 over the 280. also evga's bios is buggy with those sli x3 motherboards, none of my old hardware worked on it(gpu, soundcards, tvtuners). and ontop of that the evga motherboards do an extensive boot test that can NOT be turned off. so every single time you turn your computer on you have to wait about 5-10 seconds before bios will even boot.
an all 3 of my top of the line asus boards all "died" from the same problem(bad capacitors i think) so i can't recommend those either. there's plenty else to choose from out there tho.
also tomshardware did an article on shortswitching hard drives, or i think thats what they called it. anyways what it does is it forces the hard drive to only use half the space. the effect is that the lazor that writes and reads now only has to travel half as far. so thats definitely an option over those raptors that someone suggested.
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makaveli8x8
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Re: Help me building new high end gaming rig! [Re: makaveli8x8]
#10717563 - 07/21/09 10:34 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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oh i also forgot to mention, unless your going to overclock (which you really shouldn't need to), the stock heatsink really isn't as bad as everyone says. infact i think its kinda nice compared to all the shit ones ive seen in the past.
if your living in florda or something then maybe you'd want an upgrade, but at the very least id wait and you can always purchase the heatsink later on.
oh and if your buying from newegg watch out, they sent me a motherboard that i believe may have been returned. the plate for the case that came with the motherboard had half the holes already punched out of it...which is extreemly odd.
what pisses me off the most is that i forgot to punch the rest out because of it so when i get around to needing another usb port or lan port ill have to take out the motherboard again.
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Az0th
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Re: Help me building new high end gaming rig! [Re: makaveli8x8]
#10720577 - 07/22/09 02:21 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah I was thinking about a 275 instead.
Whats wrong with EVGA boards? I thought they were top of the line?
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none of my old hardware worked on it
- might have something to do with it.. why would you expect all your old hardware to work with new architecture?
Anyway my second choice for a board was a Gigabyte UD5P. But I don't see how it could go wrong either way I've read so many good reviews on both boards.
I DO plan on overclocking and lapping.. because why not? You are getting a lot more performance out of something for the same price.
So yeah the aftermarket heatsink is definitely a necessity, and the Thermalright True's are supposed to be the best out there right now.
and I'm in LA so it does get warm heh. I may even end up doing liquid cooling, but for now air is the way to go.
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Kodath
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Re: Help me building new high end gaming rig! [Re: Az0th]
#10720897 - 07/22/09 03:16 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Shroomism said:
Yeah I was thinking about a 275 instead.
Whats wrong with EVGA boards? I thought they were top of the line?
They make good graphics cards, for a motherboard I'd sooner go with Gigabyte. But I dunno, I've never owned an EVGA board, Gigabyte has yet to let me down though. Everyone I know has had problems with Asus boards, including me. Never again Asus, never again 
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makaveli8x8
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Re: Help me building new high end gaming rig! [Re: Kodath]
#10722916 - 07/22/09 09:49 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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well old hardware was the problem, as everything new that ive thrown in it has worked, but the only reason the old hardware doesn't work is because of evga and their motherboard, and their bios which is buggy. and when i say old the stuff wasn't that old anyway. i build a new computer about every 4-5 years something like that. and i mean if i have a gpu card thats designed to work in a slot, and my motherboard has that slot, it shouldn't fail to boot because i put a card in it.
its 100% evga's fault, there is no question about it. its not like im trying to put a agp card into a pci slot. and i see people using my hardware on other manufactor's boards as well. evga just has a buggy bios, and i feel you'll have a much better experience with another brand. the actual board looks like its built well, its just the retarded bios and the slow boot thats annoying as hell for a high end "speedy" gaming system.
it does sound like you'll be needing that heatsink then, typically i don't start overclocking until a couple years after purchase, i guess you do alot of video editing so you'll see a much bigger advantage in doing it. i hear DFI has a crap load of features for overclockers so maybe thats another board to check out as well
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Re: Help me building new high end gaming rig! [Re: makaveli8x8]
#10729742 - 07/23/09 11:37 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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makaveli8x8 said:
well old hardware was the problem, as everything new that ive thrown in it has worked, but the only reason the old hardware doesn't work is because of evga and their motherboard, and their bios which is buggy. and when i say old the stuff wasn't that old anyway. i build a new computer about every 4-5 years something like that. and i mean if i have a gpu card thats designed to work in a slot, and my motherboard has that slot, it shouldn't fail to boot because i put a card in it.
its 100% evga's fault, there is no question about it. its not like im trying to put a agp card into a pci slot. and i see people using my hardware on other manufactor's boards as well. evga just has a buggy bios, and i feel you'll have a much better experience with another brand. the actual board looks like its built well, its just the retarded bios and the slow boot thats annoying as hell for a high end "speedy" gaming system.
it does sound like you'll be needing that heatsink then, typically i don't start overclocking until a couple years after purchase, i guess you do alot of video editing so you'll see a much bigger advantage in doing it. i hear DFI has a crap load of features for overclockers so maybe thats another board to check out as well
I've used 2 DFI boards, and they are great!!! A bunch of extra stuff i will probably never use, but hey, its stable as all hell.
I also heard that gigabyte makes good boards, though I have never used one. Used to use strictly ASUS boards, adn I have never had a prob with those either...one is still working with same processor for ~7years now.
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Re: Help me building new high end gaming rig! [Re: Az0th]
#10738987 - 07/25/09 07:31 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I just built a core i7 rig. So far I love it. 
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Cannabischarlie
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Re: Help me building new high end gaming rig! [Re: Az0th]
#10802181 - 08/05/09 12:45 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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i think you want a home theater pc, not a gaming rig.
hook this up in your living room, maybe if your onboard sound is not rc ports get a soundboard that is that does 8 channel sound, then buy that stuff, your pc is your receiver, dvd playr (through blue ray on there)
you ask for a lot in just the pc aspect, for simply gaming? keep in mind that you should probably play on a real tv with todays technology of tvs they are finally better than computer monitors.
i wouldnt say this is absolute shit in 6 months by any standard, also a new video card, more ram would push it pretty far at this point, i can go above and beyond what is coming out now and in the future, crysis and ghostbusters at full throttle is about the heaviest duty thing running (and other newer games, although these are resource intensive for a benchmark and i have them) and I think a good processor and motherboard are key regardless, you can always put bigger cards in, I dont do enough at one time like you probably are but what would happen with the stuff you mention on an nvidia 9500gt?
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