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 Developing myself Spiritually as well as Physically 
#10503318 - 06/14/09 07:37 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hello friends,
Some of you may know me, and some of you may not. I come to you all, because I highly respect the people of this board as intelligent, and well developed individuals.
I am a young man. I am of sound mind and body. I may not be in the best of shape, but I am by no means overweight or unable to perform tough physical feats.
I have learned alot about myself, and about my spirituality through the use of entheogens, and now I'm left to wonder whats next... I have come to be able to feel the energy field of the universe with progressively lower doses of mushrooms, and am slowly developing my mental stability with the use of mescaline.
My question to you all is, what can I do to develop my spirituality even more? I have yet to find a religion that encompasses all of what I believe, but then again, I haven't looked into alot.
Also, what can I do to strengthen my body and mind, as well as my spirit? I have looked into yoga, and a few diets, but food is one of my biggest troubles... I deliver pizza for a living, so I'm constantly around unhealthy food.
I would sincerely appreciate it if any of you would take it upon yourselves to point me in the right direction. I feel like I've grown so much over the last few years with the use of these life changing substances, but I know that these are not the end all and be all of wholesome living, and I feel that I still have much to learn yet...
Thank you all again in advance.
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Drugs don't have spiritual potential, human beings have spiritual potential. And it may be that we need techniques to move us in that direction, and the use of psychoactive drugs clearly is one path that has helped many people.
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 Re: Developing myself Spiritually as well as Physically [Re: ChrisWho]
#10503355 - 06/14/09 07:57 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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If you want physical exercise & spiritual at the same time then try out Yoga for sure
You don't need psychedelics to feel the energy field of the universe, you already are that, simply find out who you are
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Re: Developing myself Spiritually as well as Physically [Re: The Chronic]
#10503370 - 06/14/09 08:02 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I know who I am, but psychedelics have really helped me to figure it out...
I used to have problems expressing myself through conversation, and it really hindered the development of my relationships. I also used to have trouble relating myself to others, and nature in general...
The psychedelics aren't a problem. I know they aren't necessary, but they certainly seem to help.
I guess I'm just looking for some guidance to healthier living.
Recommended diets, exercises, etc.
I've been thinking of buying a bike recently, to help motivate me to get out in the world more. (I'm generally a home body)
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Drugs don't have spiritual potential, human beings have spiritual potential. And it may be that we need techniques to move us in that direction, and the use of psychoactive drugs clearly is one path that has helped many people.
-Andrew Weil
Edited by ChrisWho (06/14/09 08:10 AM)
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Re: Developing myself Spiritually as well as Physically [Re: ChrisWho]
#10503409 - 06/14/09 08:16 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Best recommendation I can give you is to enroll in college. Pick a major you feel you may have a connection with. Psychology works for a lot of people here because it is a very introspective major. There is not a lot of money in it but it is rewarding. Regardless of your major, you need to be in school, and developing your mental capacity. School forces you to think hard, critically. This is an invaluable tool that you will use for the rest of your life. Get in, and give it everything you can.
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notapillow said: "you are going about this endeavor all wrong. clear your mind of useless fear and concern. buy the ticket, take the ride, and all that.... "
ChrisWho said: "It's all about the journey, not the destination."
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Re: Developing myself Spiritually as well as Physically [Re: mick]
#10503413 - 06/14/09 08:19 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks Mickdawg. This idea has been in the back of my mind since I graduated high school, but since I slacked off and did poorly I keep putting it off.
Do you know of any way I could help prepare myself to take my ACT's? It's been a couple years now, and I feel like some of it has slipped away from me.
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Drugs don't have spiritual potential, human beings have spiritual potential. And it may be that we need techniques to move us in that direction, and the use of psychoactive drugs clearly is one path that has helped many people.
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Re: Developing myself Spiritually as well as Physically [Re: ChrisWho]
#10503452 - 06/14/09 08:38 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nevermind, found it online, thanks.
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Re: Developing myself Spiritually as well as Physically [Re: ChrisWho]
#10503516 - 06/14/09 09:21 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Awesome that is a good start man! 
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notapillow said: "you are going about this endeavor all wrong. clear your mind of useless fear and concern. buy the ticket, take the ride, and all that.... "
ChrisWho said: "It's all about the journey, not the destination."
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Re: Developing myself Spiritually as well as Physically [Re: ChrisWho]
#10503617 - 06/14/09 10:30 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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ChrisWho said:
I know who I am
Who are you then?
For exercise id say Yoga is best, plus something you can do outside like bike riding
If i lived by the sea id also swim
Eat lots of fruit & vegetables, stay away from red meat
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Re: Developing myself Spiritually as well as Physically [Re: The Chronic]
#10503842 - 06/14/09 11:59 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm me of course. I take joy in helping other people. I care about the environment... all that goodness. I'm happy with my life, even though I know it could be better. It's all about the journey, not the destination.
I plan on starting yoga, as I have a dvd that my mom gave me some time ago. I also plan on buying a bicycle, just because I feel like it would keep me more entertained than I would be on foot... More to see, since I can cover more ground.
And, I'm gonna keep studying, and take my ACT's in September... Gotta stick with it.
Peace be with you friends, and thank you for your encouraging words.
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Drugs don't have spiritual potential, human beings have spiritual potential. And it may be that we need techniques to move us in that direction, and the use of psychoactive drugs clearly is one path that has helped many people.
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Re: Developing myself Spiritually as well as Physically [Re: ChrisWho]
#10504180 - 06/14/09 01:55 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Heres the diet advice i give everyone here:
Whole grains, fruits and veggies and nuts.
Eat very little processed foods, make everything from scratch.
Drink lots of water.
Stirfrys with rice/quinoa or rice noodles or stirfry noodles make good leftovers and is easy to mix in 8 or 9 veggies.
Make your own sauce with black bean sauce, lemon juice, ginger, garlic, sugar, honey, chutney/jam, pepper flakes, etc.
I find eating dairy and red meat makes me sluggish, apathetic and very unmotivated, you might be wise to reduce these things.
Cycling is great but for exercise which really helps me trancend my boundaries i much prefer running.
Running has a HUGE transformative effect on ones body and mind, a regular running routine will build discipline and self confidence, regularly challenging your pace or distance will translate into challenging yourself in other areas of your life, running makes you cut, fit, quick + alert, lets you sleep well, lets you eat well, its cheap and always there (no technology to slow you down.)
Also, i find that the challenge of running is a real great for centering me and putting me into a trance-like meditative state while participating in the activity and leaves me mentally clear and in the moment throughout the rest of the day...
I highly recommend it.
But if your not for all out running, you might try walking in new places or more places more often, going for hikes, joining a naturalists or other club, swimming, cycling, yoga, tai chi, going to the gym...
I think leading a more active lifestyle in general will have a spiral effect on getting you into more activities with more like minded people...
You will probably find once you become more "who you want to be" your spirituality will develop more.
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Re: Developing myself Spiritually as well as Physically [Re: ChrisWho]
#10504256 - 06/14/09 02:14 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Why try and look for a religion that caters to your beliefs, just believe whatever the hell you want.
As for diet, make it a a routine a few times a week to cut out unhealthy food. Do you know how to cook? If so make stuff like goddamn healthier substitutes of your favorite foods. Like veggie, thin crust pizza or whatever. Folks typically have a hard time with these major changes so gradual adaptations would be best.
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Re: Developing myself Spiritually as well as Physically [Re: The Chronic]
#10506408 - 06/14/09 09:23 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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If you want physical exercise & spiritual at the same time then try out Yoga for sure
What type of Yoga would you recommend? I've heard interesting things about Kundalini and Pranayama Yoga, but I'm unsure whether these are best for the beginner.
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Re: Developing myself Spiritually as well as Physically [Re: deCypher]
#10506938 - 06/14/09 11:03 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks for the advice guys!
PDU, I never really thought about going running, but I remember the last time I did go, I was surprised at how long I could run, and how after so long it wasn't even so much of a chore.
I think I'll hold off on the bicycle, and pick up running instead. I just wish there were clubs like you speak of in my area... I live in a little run down town, in OK... People here don't seem to be too into physical fitness, or spiritual development outside the church.
Oh well though... I feel like I learn the most about myself, and get the most out of my experiences when I'm alone anyways.
I do know how to cook as a matter of fact. I'm usually just too lazy to go to the grocery...
But it will definitely be something that I work on. It's been a long time since I've cooked anything, but last time I did it, I was surprised at how little effort, and at how relaxing it was once I got started... Not to mention delicious food that I otherwise would be unable to find at any fast food joint.
I really appreciate all of the advice I'm receiving in this thread. If anyone else has anything to add, please don't hesitate.
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Drugs don't have spiritual potential, human beings have spiritual potential. And it may be that we need techniques to move us in that direction, and the use of psychoactive drugs clearly is one path that has helped many people.
-Andrew Weil
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Re: Developing myself Spiritually as well as Physically [Re: ChrisWho]
#10507786 - 06/15/09 01:02 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Breathing is most important. That is actually all that is important. You just allow yourself to breathe. The thoughts will unfold as needed when you are in that state of breathing. You operate on a need to know basis moment to moment.
This course is pretty cool btw:
http://www.aypsite.org/10.html
Godspeed to ya!
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Re: Developing myself Spiritually as well as Physically [Re: ChrisWho]
#10507923 - 06/15/09 01:27 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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It's all about the journey, not the destination.
I really enjoyed this. Am going to use it for a while if you don't mind 
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notapillow said: "you are going about this endeavor all wrong. clear your mind of useless fear and concern. buy the ticket, take the ride, and all that.... "
ChrisWho said: "It's all about the journey, not the destination."
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Re: Developing myself Spiritually as well as Physically [Re: mick]
#10508018 - 06/15/09 01:47 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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eating healthy is a chore if you try and live like most people.
I find it necessary to enjoy cooking, shopping and picking ingredients, planning recipes, cooking for friends and family.
Also, if you exercise moderately, and eat all natural foods - you can eat as much as you want and will still be trim and healthy.
Aerobic exercise is key! - OP, check out the runners world beginners forum... or just go running. I do recommend buying a good pair of running specific shoes specific to how your foot lays. A running store will be able to tell you if you need pronated, supinated or neutral shoes...
Good shoes will keep you injury free though.
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Re: Developing myself Spiritually as well as Physically [Re: mick]
#10508304 - 06/15/09 02:57 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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It's all about the journey, not the destination.
I really enjoyed this. Am going to use it for a while if you don't mind
Pleas, by all means, feel free
PDU I was thinking about that today... The running shoes I mean. I'll also need to buy some jogging pants, or shorts, since all I have are jeans.
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Drugs don't have spiritual potential, human beings have spiritual potential. And it may be that we need techniques to move us in that direction, and the use of psychoactive drugs clearly is one path that has helped many people.
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Re: Developing myself Spiritually as well as Physically [Re: mick]
#10510170 - 06/15/09 01:21 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yoga is a good idea. I only started getting into it myself, some basic asanas and pranayamas. I'm building up my flexibility a lot (which in turn is making my entire body more developed in shape), but I can only do the basic asanas. I really find the pranayamas help, though.
Drink tea and water, cut out drinking soft drinks and coffee. You can still eat whatever you normally do, just take smaller portions of the junk food less frequently and instead have more vegetables and fruits. That's about all there is to it.
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mickdawg666 said:
Best recommendation I can give you is to enroll in college. Pick a major you feel you may have a connection with. Psychology works for a lot of people here because it is a very introspective major. There is not a lot of money in it but it is rewarding. Regardless of your major, you need to be in school, and developing your mental capacity. School forces you to think hard, critically. This is an invaluable tool that you will use for the rest of your life. Get in, and give it everything you can.
Good choice. I'm undeclared, but I've decided against an English major (too much fucking reading, I want to read my own books!) in favor of a psych major with a philosophy minor. I'm looking forward to getting more into those fields.
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Re: Developing myself Spiritually as well as Physically [Re: stereolab]
#10511570 - 06/15/09 05:31 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Keep reading, keep learning. If you find something interesting, try practicing it or participating in it. Do not forsake communion with liked minded people.
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Re: Developing myself Spiritually as well as Physically [Re: deCypher]
#10512260 - 06/15/09 07:46 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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deCypher said:
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Chronic777 said:
If you want physical exercise & spiritual at the same time then try out Yoga for sure
What type of Yoga would you recommend? I've heard interesting things about Kundalini and Pranayama Yoga, but I'm unsure whether these are best for the beginner.
Ashtanga Vinyasa is perfect for a beginner imo, when it comes to hatha yoga id say im only a beginner, but i love it & have learned lots fast, building up from Sun salutations is a really good start.
I usually start off with an ashtanga vinyasa style sun salutations, then i do standing postures, then floor postures.
Sun salutations, standing postures, then floor.
Pretty simple, 2 hours fly by & im left energized & feeling great, as an exercise it perfectly compliments my main practice jnana yoga.
In the gym i just felt pure ego, Yoga is so much sweeter & much more satisfying, my posture has changed immensely.
Ashtanga Vinyasa is good as it brings in pranayama while doing the poses, pranayama is always good to end a session with, meditation aswell.
I don't really consciously practice kundalini yoga, but jnana yoga raises the kundalini directly through Self realization
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Re: Developing myself Spiritually as well as Physically [Re: The Chronic]
#10514923 - 06/16/09 03:35 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I read some great post's in this thread. And I wanted to chime in.
I believe that spirituality is just that. It's not religion.
I have what I have and that helps me through a lot. I completely support those that have their faith in God. I also feel the love and kharma that those who dont believe in such a creature have too. I don't happen to think god is a plant or a rock (unless I'm tripping really hard or something). I just believe that there is something greater than man. And that that power is present and working in this universe.
Most everything I read in this post has been positive and uplifting.
Kudos man for caring. Take their advice but remember the spirit part of you too.
Its a journey.
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I've come to believe that the heart is the filter of the enlightened mind. Epilson Lyrae
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Re: Developing myself Spiritually as well as Physically [Re: Epilson Lyrae]
#10515689 - 06/16/09 10:17 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Indeed. Thanks everyone. I'm glad this post helped someone else as well.
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Drugs don't have spiritual potential, human beings have spiritual potential. And it may be that we need techniques to move us in that direction, and the use of psychoactive drugs clearly is one path that has helped many people.
-Andrew Weil
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