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#10281854 - 05/04/09 03:34 AM (4 years, 17 days ago) |
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Okay mofos, so I know I've been MIA from this forum since I moved to NJ and stepped down from modding (about 3 years ago) and haven't made any quality posts here since then. Living about 5 miles away from Manhattan will kinda kill your mushroom hunting career. Most of my hunting in the ghetto-ass city I live in is hunting down used needles in the streets so I don't step on them, or looking out for crackheads so I can avoid them.
Needless to say, it's past time I share some pics and tips with you guys. I miss this forum, but I just don't keep up with it if I'm not out there hunting myself.
I finally went hunting this past weekend. I went down to southeast PA (about 30-40 min outside Philly) to chill with a fellow Shroomery member named Newbie. He's a cool ass dude, very hospitable, very intelligent and down to earth, and an awesome cook to boot. I met him at the NE09 gathering. Since he's big into cooking and whatnot, I told him I'd show him how to hunt morels since the season just started here a week or two ago. We recently had a ridiculous heat wave (like 90ºF+ in NYC for 3 days), so I wasn't really sure what to expect. I thought the heat wave could have ended the season before it started. Man was I wrong.
Newbie asked me what kind of habitat we needed to hunt morels, so I told him we need a river or a creek with flood-planes and a lot of hardwood trees. He did his research and took me out to a place. At first we were plagued by some stupid ass plants that grew about 6 inches tall (pics in this post) and things weren't looking good. Eventually I stopped dead in my tracks and yelled out "Holy shit, come look at this man!" We found morels. The biggest fucking morels I've ever seen. In GA I usually found morels that were MAYBE 3-4 inches tall at the most. The beasts we found this hunt were hitting 6.5"-7" tall. Ridiculous.
I'm gonna quit blabbing and show you guys a shitload of pics. I'm going to try to do captions, but I might get bored with it/decide to finish a Field Ecology term paper. If that happens I'll finish captions... uh... when I feel like it. Gonna be busy the next few days.
Here's pics:
I was thinking we would never find anything, then I saw these. All of the following morels were found growing under/near Sycamore trees.
More of the first morels we found. Old, dried out, kinda grody. Not the best for eating.
We moved further down the river and finally found some GIANTS that were worth eating.
This one was a beast. That knife is 8.75" from tip of blade to end of handle
Picture perfect morel
I don't really bother with morel distinctions, but this is what I'd call a gray morel. I really think it's just a young yellow/blonde morel. Don't know, don't think it makes a difference, don't care.
Another friggin' giant. For some perspective, I have abnormally large hands, from my wrist to tip of middle finger it's around 8 inches.
The final haul. Probably around 4-5lbs total. We tossed out most of the old craptastic ones on the bottom right.
All washed up and ready to cook. I chopped the tips off so these guys would sink in the saltwater bath. I throw them in a mild saltwater dip for 2-5 minutes so all the bugs (mostly spiders) will get out of the mushrooms before we cook them. I can deal without protein in the form of bugs.
Newbie cooked these things up in some butter and put them on top of steak. It was orgasmic. Nom nom nom.
These were some of the plants that were hindering progress at the beginning of the hunt. No clue what they are, never seen them in the south. I'm willing to bet they're an invasive species. Anyone have any ideas?
Second plant that hindered morel hunting. They were like big-ass umbrellas that were about 8-12" tall and they had a single white flower (pictured). Again, any ideas?
This find was a first for me: Oysters worth eating. When I'd find them before they were either too small, growing in a very polluted environment, or too destroyed by bugs to eat. The taste/texture was... Okay. I'll have to experiment with different ways of cooking them.
Some weird purple, hairy, oyster-looking mushrooms growing from the same dead tree as the oysters. Again, and idea on an ID?
Some random cool looking plant
The area we were hunting in used to be pretty industrial. Here's some of the junk that was left. Newbie called it "the flying speghetti monster's lair" 
Seeing how this is a website dedicated to actives, I saved the "best" for last. This is the first time I've EVER found Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata. We found them growing from a ground-down tree stump after we gave up on hunting morels in one location. A nice surprise. This would be the seventh species of active mushroom I've found. I have about all the species on the East Coast covered. Pacific Northwest, you're next 
These things appeared to have just started fruiting within the past 2-3 days at most. Most of what we found was pin stage. I felt guilty about picking them so young, but I need to get some prints and do some microscopy work to make sure they are Ovoids. Also want to see what the trip is like 
Notice how the pins were bluing the instant I picked them.
This was where we found them... Some kind of hardwood tree stump ground-down to the dirt.
Hope you guys enjoyed. If you have any habitat questions, or any questions or that matter, ask away.
(But if you ask me the location, I'm gonna h4x ur computard n find out whr u live n cum kick u n teh ballz.)
Oh yeah, I said these were giant morels. For size comparison, here's the morels I'm used to finding in GA:
Yeah there's a lot there, but they're hard as hell to spot and they are tiny.
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 Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: Gumby]
#10281868 - 05/04/09 03:39 AM (4 years, 17 days ago) |
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PA shout out.. 
nice finds.. 
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: Gumby]
#10281956 - 05/04/09 04:13 AM (4 years, 17 days ago) |
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I don't really bother with morel distinctions, but this is what I'd call a gray morel. I really think it's just a young yellow/blonde morel. Don't know, don't think it makes a difference, don't care.
The color varies a lot, I look more at the structure of the pits.
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I don't really bother with morel distinctions, but this is what I'd call a gray morel. I really think it's just a young yellow/blonde morel. Don't know, don't think it makes a difference, don't care.
Its Podophyllum peltatum (mayapple).
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Some weird purple, hairy, oyster-looking mushrooms growing from the same dead tree as the oysters. Again, and idea on an ID?
Thats a hairy panus.
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#10282110 - 05/04/09 05:17 AM (4 years, 17 days ago) |
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Alan, if you had to take a stab at the morel IDs, what would you say we found the most of? What are the few gray, darker, smaller ones? Just young yellow/blonde morels?
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: Gumby]
#10282128 - 05/04/09 05:28 AM (4 years, 17 days ago) |
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Alan, if you had to take a stab at the morel IDs, what would you say we found the most of?
I think you found this one
http://www.mushroomexpert.com/morchella_deliciosas.html
compare with
http://www.mushroomexpert.com/morchella_yellow.html
and check here to see if you can find a better match
http://www.mushroomexpert.com/mdcp/results_legend.html
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What are the few gray, darker, smaller ones? Just young yellow/blonde morels?
Yea, they are colored differently when they are small.
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#10282147 - 05/04/09 05:39 AM (4 years, 17 days ago) |
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I'd say all of them are Classic North American Yellow Morel. I guess that'd be M. deliciosa.
What is the difference between M. esculenta and M. deliciosa? Same thing, messed up taxonomy?
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 Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: Gumby]
#10282310 - 05/04/09 07:42 AM (4 years, 17 days ago) |
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I thought the heat wave could have ended the season before it started. Man was I wrong.
I know- similar case here in CA! Alan and I went hunting and found a bunch of morels two weeks ago, and then there was an ungodly heat wave for about 4 or 5 days right after, so we were hesitant to go out and potentially waste our time the weekend after... But then the photos and reports came in from people STILL finding lots of them the weekend after the heat wave. So we went out on Saturday (2 weeks from the last hunt) and they were still fruiting!!
We didn't find as many this time, but we caught some n00b hunters in "our" patch, so they got most of the obvious ones. Sadly, we also found a bunch of rotten ones.
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Same thing, messed up taxonomy?
Morchella is a total MESS!
It seems odd that one or a few species would be saprobic when the majority of species in the genus are clearly mycorrhizal. I am unaware of any (other..?) monophyletic genus that contains both mycorrhizal and saprobic species.
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: Gumby]
#10282348 - 05/04/09 08:03 AM (4 years, 17 days ago) |
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Nice Morels and Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata!
I think the first plant you mention is Dichondra repens.
Don't forget where that rotted stump is
inski.
edit: upon closer inspection it doesn't look like that plant, the leaves are too lobed to be D. repens.
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: CureCat]
#10282718 - 05/04/09 10:28 AM (4 years, 16 days ago) |
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I had no clue that some Morchella were considered saprobic. I've always known them to be mycorrhizal. I only ever find them growing near poplars and sycamores.
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: Gumby]
#10282820 - 05/04/09 11:09 AM (4 years, 16 days ago) |
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Hey Gumby we need to get Neuro out of his study and into the woods! Good score! I would consider that the season there is getting towards the end. Based on not seeing any half free or Black morels.
That heat wave forced them all out at one time. I been pickin half free, black, yellow/grey the past week all at the same time. Well the first two days I didn't find any Yellows. They came out after I started checking the spot. Usually they come out in a rhythm that overlaps slightly. This year they kicked it up a half step here.
This year has been my best yet. Went out four days in a row and filled up my small sack every time. Did a few drive by stop and grabs, driving down through wooded hollows. Say I got between 2 and 3 gallons. I need to get batteries for my cam. But when I wanna go hunt I go hunt. The store is in the other direction...
poplars and sycamores ftw!
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: sheikofshiitake]
#10282847 - 05/04/09 11:18 AM (4 years, 16 days ago) |
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I found my first morel ever today in WV very close to PA, it was a young white one, I found it next to a riverbank. I was actually looking for bluefoots but didn't find any, so it was a nice suprise.
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: Gumby]
#10283215 - 05/04/09 01:32 PM (4 years, 16 days ago) |
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I'm going to head back to that stump on Wed. or Thurs. depending on the rain situation.. We picked it dry but left the mycelial networks in pretty good shape so I'd expect to see some more, the only question is, how long before some nice adults? Does it follow the same pattern cubes do as far as pin growth or will it be faster? I didn't see any pins yet but I know from experience that cubes (indoor) take at least a week or so from primordia to mushroom but you said to check it in a few days so I dunno..
And for the morels, should I wait until the rain is done or just check in a few days anyway? In other words, do outdoor mycelium wait until the rain stops or do they just pop up whenever their substrate reaches field capacity? I guess same question goes for the Ovoids.
PS. Thanks again for coming out here, I wasn't expecting to be nearly as successful as we were. Shit I was happy if I saw one edible. We hit the fucking jackpot man. 
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: sheikofshiitake]
#10283220 - 05/04/09 01:34 PM (4 years, 16 days ago) |
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I think the season just started about a week or two ago, so that should give us another two-three weeks I'm hoping. I've never found the half free morels, I'd like to find some of those. They grow in the same areas the yellows do? Bigger or smaller?
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: Gumby]
#10283853 - 05/04/09 03:46 PM (4 years, 16 days ago) |
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"Second plant that hindered morel hunting. They were like big-ass umbrellas that were about 8-12" tall and they had a single white flower (pictured). Again, any ideas?"
Those are may apples.
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: Gumby]
#10284068 - 05/04/09 04:30 PM (4 years, 16 days ago) |
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I had no clue that some Morchella were considered saprobic. I've always known them to be mycorrhizal. I only ever find them growing near poplars and sycamores.
I find them in the open areas all the time, flood plains FTW.
Anyways nice finds gumby, have you ever gone morel hunting in the GA mountains? Most of the ones up there grow larger than the ones at the base of the mountains, as large or larger than the ones you posted.
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: CureCat]
#10284085 - 05/04/09 04:32 PM (4 years, 16 days ago) |
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I am unaware of any (other..?) monophyletic genus that contains both mycorrhizal and saprobic species.
Amanita and Boletus have a couple saprobic members.
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: Gumby]
#10285617 - 05/04/09 08:44 PM (4 years, 16 days ago) |
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I had no clue that some Morchella were considered saprobic. I've always known them to be mycorrhizal. I only ever find them growing near poplars and sycamores.
Most are apparently mycorrhizal, but some (such as M. rufrobrunnea) grow in absence of trees, from wood chips, disturbed soil, bark, etc. Morels have also been cultivated indoors; Ronald Ower was the first documented cultivator of morels, and patented a process of cultivating them. This type of Morel was most likely M. rufrobrunnea.
Kuo states on a lot of his pages that mycorrhizal species may sometimes be saprotrophic, and vice versa, but there is no hard evidence to substantiate the notion of any mushroom species exhibiting an ability to take advantage of its environment and be either a symbiote OR saprobe, according to Else Vellinga and Tom Bruns.
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Amanita and Boletus have a couple saprobic members.
You told me that a couple weeks ago. Rod Tulloss says that A.thiersii is doubtfully mycorrhizal, in the subsection Vittadiniae which includes a majority of species with "doubtful mycorrhizal relationships". But he says that the study regarding their relationships or growth habits are thus inconclusive.
I have heard rumour that they may be mycorrhizal with grass, but I can't find anywhere that Rod addresses this possibility.
And a search for non-mycorrhizal or saprobic species of Boletus didn't lead me to any reliable information.
Oh, remember how you were wondering about those big holes in the ground all over the burn area?? You're assumption that a tree may have burned down to the trunk and roots leaving a gaping hole in its place seems to be correct:
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the morels were appearing everywhere, especially on the sides of the holes created where trees burned well into the ground.
Though Volk was referring to Eastern Morchella, and I certainly didn't pick any morels from these ditches. I looked in and around them a lot, since a lot of mushrooms like to grow from uneven or disturbed ground. Did you find any in the holes?
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: Gumby]
#10286700 - 05/04/09 11:06 PM (4 years, 16 days ago) |
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I'll get out the camera and take a few shots tomorrow. I figure a couple more weeks too. There are still blacks and yellows out that are pretty small. Just came up maybe 3 or 4 days ago. The half free ones are a kicker. Really kinda pecker like. Say the largest was at least a palm width and an inch five inches about. But some are smaller 2 to 3 inches. Found them near Blacks, Grays, and Yellows.
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: CureCat]
#10287085 - 05/04/09 11:50 PM (4 years, 16 days ago) |
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And a search for non-mycorrhizal or saprobic species of Boletus didn't lead me to any reliable information.
There are a couple but I don't remember the species name.
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Did you find any in the holes?
No.
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: Gumby]
#10288037 - 05/05/09 02:48 AM (4 years, 16 days ago) |
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awesome hunt man
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: Gumby]
#10290301 - 05/05/09 03:09 PM (4 years, 15 days ago) |
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Hmmmm. I spoke with Workman and, based on appearance, he thinks there might be a chance that these Psilocybes aren't ovoids. I thought something was funky with the shape and color of the caps and the seemingly evanescent annulus . Newbie is going to check the stump tomorrow to see if there are any fully mature specimens. If they have no annulus then we'll see how it goes from there.
I'm headed out for the rest of the day, but tomorrow I will put the spores and some gill fragments under my scope and we'll see how things look.
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: wowitch17]
#10291107 - 05/05/09 05:34 PM (4 years, 15 days ago) |
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What a bunch of exxcellent finds, I'm in PA as well. . . I've seen a bunch of oysters so far this season. You've inspired me to get my ass outside and start hunting around more.
Great pictures btw
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: wowitch17]
#10292088 - 05/05/09 08:00 PM (4 years, 15 days ago) |
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Some random cool looking plant.
Pretty certain that is a young Aralia spinosa (Devil's Walking Stick). If you had a picture of the base/stem I could tell for sure.
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: Gumby]
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: Newbie]
#10297410 - 05/06/09 05:16 PM (4 years, 14 days ago) |
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How much longer should I give em? I'm gettin kinda antsy.
Nice! I'd give them a week.
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#10297470 - 05/06/09 05:28 PM (4 years, 14 days ago) |
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Really?! That seems too long.. I'm assuming that's to let the pins catch up? Given my experience with psilocybes is pure homegrown, I've never let them get past the breaking of the veil. As long as the adults don't get old and rot before the rest of the pins mature I'll go check them in about a week. My goal here is obviously to come back to a log full of mostly mature mushrooms.
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: Newbie]
#10297550 - 05/06/09 05:41 PM (4 years, 14 days ago) |
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Really?! That seems too long..
Ok 5 days. Depends a lot on the temperatures.
Woodlovers in the wild grow slower than cultivated cubes. You should pick them long after the veils break, they are still growing at that point. They will kick out spores for a week or so, its best to pick them around the time that they are finishing that process but before they start to rot.
Also you can put some sawdust or fresh wood under the mushrooms to catch all the spores that fall.
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: Newbie]
#10297644 - 05/06/09 05:58 PM (4 years, 14 days ago) |
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word you should wait a day or two after the veils break. as alan said not all species grow at the same rate as cubes
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#10297646 - 05/06/09 05:58 PM (4 years, 14 days ago) |
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Awesome. Thanks for the tips! I'll be sure to post lots of pics when I go in for the harvest. I like that idea of putting some fresh wood there too. There are so many fallen and rotted logs around there I'd love to set up a nice pile of rotting wood for next season. I'll have to do some reading on the types of wood they like too... I'm a total newb at identifying vegetation but after seeing with my own eyes that wild edible and active mushrooms are in my area I might as well start learning it now.
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: Newbie]
#10297650 - 05/06/09 05:59 PM (4 years, 14 days ago) |
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Bring along a hatchet and cut up some hardwood to feed them. Alder or apple or something.
Your best bet is to figure out what type of wood they are growing on now and then find some that is dead but not colonized yet, and chop it up into smaller peices and bury it along with the spawn and put chips of it under the mushrooms as they drop spores.
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#10297738 - 05/06/09 06:16 PM (4 years, 14 days ago) |
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That tree was rotted out enough that I could probably break off some pieces at the other end by hand and move them under what's growing. I pulled a piece of it apart and found pins inside of that as well so I'm willing to bet there's a whole colony in there. I'd really like to get in there and see what's growing but I don't wanna destroy the mycelial network that it has going.
I don't even have a hatchet but I'll find a way to get rest of that log (a good 3-4ft section) that doesn't have any growth under what's growing.
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: Newbie]
#10297815 - 05/06/09 06:26 PM (4 years, 14 days ago) |
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That tree was rotted out enough that I could probably break off some pieces at the other end by hand and move them under what's growing.
Rotted peices are already colonized by something else, its best to use fresher wood but not so fresh that its green.
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#10298342 - 05/06/09 07:51 PM (4 years, 14 days ago) |
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On a side note, this is the area where we found the majority of those giant morels. Do you think once the area dries up to what it was before more morels will pop out of it? I'm hoping for another haul before the season's over.
 
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: Newbie]
#10301295 - 05/07/09 10:10 AM (4 years, 13 days ago) |
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If you're not working on Saturday I'll drive down and we can do some hardcore hiking and hopefully find several new patches. I say we go up past that old train trestle, but this time we'll walk along the power lines. None of the weeding our way though the jungle shit we did last time. That sucked a little bit.
Did the second patch (where you found those guys) seem to be trampled again? You think other locals know what's up still?
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: Gumby]
#10302140 - 05/07/09 01:57 PM (4 years, 13 days ago) |
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You think other locals know what's up still?
That's what I'm worried about. I didn't see any new footprints and we did a thorough search so I'm not sure if it's us or someone else. I did my best to cover it up a bit with foliage but we'll see when we go back to check it. That log looks so promising, I'd be SOOOOO disappointed if I get there and it's picked clean.
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: Newbie]
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: Newbie]
#10308958 - 05/08/09 06:15 PM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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Nice, that's about the size I like to pick them.
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#10310150 - 05/08/09 10:46 PM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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Hmm.. I mean these are showing insane signs of being actives but they're drying to a color I'm not used to. The caps are turning a dark shade of grey. I'll check on the prints tomorrow, but does this new info clarify the ID any?
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: wowitch17]
#10310734 - 05/09/09 01:12 AM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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Gumby I ave been searching out morels lately on a lg creek bottom in my area haven't found any yet though I did find some partially decayed suspected oysters and some ?able possible P.Cearulipes [look very similar to my cubes]bruising was faint & spore print didn't have a purple tint just dark brownish I think the area i am hunting may be too damp. BTW I am out of town till next week will try to post pics next week [If I can get good ones] New flushes were just starting day before I left.
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: Newbie]
#10310962 - 05/09/09 02:07 AM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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They seem like P. ovoid. very healty looking youngsters.
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: Newbie]
#10313599 - 05/09/09 06:38 PM (4 years, 11 days ago) |
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Hmm.. I mean these are showing insane signs of being actives but they're drying to a color I'm not used to. The caps are turning a dark shade of grey. I'll check on the prints tomorrow, but does this new info clarify the ID any?
100,000,000% Ovoids. The new pics and spore size and shape confirm it. Different species nicca, they aren't gonna dry the same color as cubes. Leik, duhhhh!
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: Gumby]
#10314179 - 05/09/09 09:41 PM (4 years, 11 days ago) |
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Nice finds Gumby/Newbie. I've been doing some foraging in SE PA myself this weekend. Found a few of those giant 8 inch morels, look a lot like the species you have pictured. Looks like we probably found some M.deliciosa. Those Ovoids look nice, gives me hope for finding some around here.
Also, when you're out there foraging...keep an eye out for these fellow friends of the forest...don't know exactly what kind of snake it was, seemed harmless and docile, until I approached it and it entered defensive mode and took a few strikes at me as I passed it by.
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: Newbie]
#10314490 - 05/09/09 10:53 PM (4 years, 11 days ago) |
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Gumby told me to pick them today so I did. I felt bad picking some of these little ones but their caps were just about open so I knew they were gonna end up little anyway. A lot were a part of a cluster too and came RIGHT OFF with the slightest tug lol.
         
There were a lot of little pins forming as well. I have a feeling it's going to look even better in a week or so when I go back. Hopefully this is the start of a beautiful patch. I'm taking 6 prints from the largest ones I saw.
4.14g dry.
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: Newbie]
#10314505 - 05/09/09 10:56 PM (4 years, 11 days ago) |
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Eat 'em all!
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: fungusapien]
#10314511 - 05/09/09 10:57 PM (4 years, 11 days ago) |
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Fuck THAT. 
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: Newbie]
#10316901 - 05/10/09 02:09 PM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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I went back to the original stump and found these few left growing... there doesn't appear to be to much hope for that location.
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: Newbie]
#10317092 - 05/10/09 03:04 PM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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I went back to the original stump and found these few left growing... there doesn't appear to be to much hope for that location.
Yeah I had a feeling that stump wouldn't work out too well because it's so exposed to the elements, not enough shade. You should drag that old Christmas tree on top of it
fungusapien: that is one pissed off garter snake. Their bites aren't that bad though.
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: Gumby]
#10317779 - 05/10/09 06:20 PM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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Gumby, I spent a while last night trying to figure out what kind of snake that is... Thamnophis???
I've caught and seen my fair share of different Thamnophis species, and I've never seen any with such a distinctive shaped head. The head looks more arrow-shaped than most Garters, and the nose looks kind of upturned... Which sounds kind of like a Hognose snake, but they have spots rather than stripes...
Maybe it is just the way its head is kinked against its body that makes it look more diamond shaped.
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: CureCat]
#10317905 - 05/10/09 06:54 PM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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Seems it was an Eastern Garter. From a distance it looked relatively small, and as soon as I was within 4 feet it flattened out its body, trying to look big and tough. I took a few more steps and it coiled up and went for my ankles. Somehow I really upset the poor guy, didn't mean to though. That was the first time I ever saw them act that way, normally they just slither off.
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: CureCat]
#10318395 - 05/10/09 08:37 PM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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It's some species of garter snake for sure, couldn't tell you the genus. A lot of nonvenomous snakes will inflate their bodies with air and contract their muscles to make their body more flattened out (triangular in cross-section) and their heads more diamond shaped. Venomous North American snakes tend to be a lot more bulky, have diamond shaped heads and elliptical/vertical pupils, nonvenomous have round pupils. The only exception to both rules that comes to mind are coral snakes.
Note the body shape of copperheads vs. non venomous snakes...
Venomous (Copperheads):
Non-venomous:
Ringneck
Pueblan Milksnake:
Black Racer
Rough Green Snake:
Southern Banded Watersnake (has an anticoagulant in it's saliva, not venomous though):
Black Ratsnake:
Yeah, probably way too many pictures. I think you'll get an idea for body shape of venomous/nonvenomous. Also, CureCat, scientists recently discovered that both Garters and Hognose have a mild neurotoxin in their saliva. Usually won't hurt humans though.
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: Gumby]
#10318408 - 05/10/09 08:39 PM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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I visited the log again today... I'm taking 6 more prints.
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: Newbie]
#10318434 - 05/10/09 08:43 PM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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Hell yeah dude, nice. Weird how the annulus is gone on a lot of them.
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: Gumby]
#10318443 - 05/10/09 08:44 PM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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It's there it's just shrunken. It was so dark I had to feel around for some of them... This'll make about 7 or 8 dry grams of these ovoids man, I'm ecstatic. I finally have my own little stash of wilds.
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: Newbie]
#10318670 - 05/10/09 09:29 PM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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How potent are Ovoids in comparison to Cubensis?
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: fungusapien]
#10319104 - 05/10/09 10:40 PM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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I ate 1.1g last night an had a level 2-3 trip. It was weird though. I hadn't eaten anything yet I still got insane "waves." I'd feel more or less sober for about 15 minutes then be tripping balls the next 15-30 min. I probably peaked about 5 or 6 times. Quite strange but very enjoyable.
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: Gumby]
#10319350 - 05/10/09 11:24 PM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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Great pics!!! I wish there were more reptiles in my area!
There are lots of reptiles in CA, but not so much in the city.
A lot of the poisonous snakes in the U.S. are pit vipers, too. All the venomous snakes in PA are.
Oh, and all "Garter Snakes" are in the genus Thamnophis. Distinguishing species on a morphological level can be difficult if not impossible. I have never seen any Garters flatten out like that! Very ferocious looking!
The last one I caught musked me! 
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: CureCat]
#10319386 - 05/10/09 11:30 PM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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thats awesome about the ovoids
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: thedudenj]
#10319879 - 05/11/09 12:48 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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Very cool, happy to hear you enjoyed them. The wave phenomena has always blown my mind, how you can feel normal for short periods of time and then feel completely overwhelmed a moment later.
Another quick question: What kind of trees do the Ovoids tend to associate themselves with, if any?
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: jet li]
#10335413 - 05/14/09 01:19 AM (4 years, 7 days ago) |
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Those are some beauts my friend, hope that spot will turn into an annual patch to pick! 
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: Gumby]
#15961991 - 03/18/12 02:21 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Hey Gumby, that first plant is called fig buttercup, or pilewort, you are right about its invasiveness. Good luck this year.
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: log]
#15962607 - 03/18/12 09:59 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Dude really!!!
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: divo]
#15963517 - 03/18/12 04:09 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Yea thats cool but on a 2-3 yr old thread, eww!
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Re: Hunting in PA: Morels, Oysters, Unknowns and... OVOIDS! (TONS of PICS!) [Re: divo]
#15965348 - 03/19/12 12:33 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah, Gumby probably found out what it was a year ago but I just read this thread for the first time and got all excited to know the answer. It is a really nasty weed, I see it too often...
That random cool looking plant is an Ailanthus sucker. Another shitty invasive, these actually smell shitty and I smell them too often. I thought it could be a bunch of things but it turns out that lower leaf margin serration is unique to the plant. They spread underground like aspen and those fucking stinkbugs love them.
Those 2 plants will own your property if you let them establish so don't hesitate to get them out ASAP. I probably won't be able to contribute very much around here but I hope this helps somebody out.
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