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Re: Have you ever met a person and just intrinsically disliked them? [Re: MJF]
#9949172 - 03/10/09 11:30 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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every control freak I have ever met
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Re: Have you ever met a person and just intrinsically disliked them? [Re: Mufungo]
#9949430 - 03/11/09 12:12 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mufungo said: If we look at it through the evolutionary model, perhaps 'disliking' is a way of ensuring we don't mate or join the group of 'the wrong sort'. How we determine who to dislike I think is idiosyncratically multi-dimensional and can't be reduced to simply that the person represents something we hate about ourselves (although there might be some truth to this in some situations, how could it be tested?).
If that was true, then we should only dislike people of the opposite sex, as they are the only ones we can mate with. Also, women should dislike a lot more than men, as they have a greater genetic disadvantage from mating with the wrong person. After all, men can mate with multiple women almost simultaneously, so it doesn't matter that much if one of them is the "wrong one".
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Re: Have you ever met a person and just intrinsically disliked them? [Re: Zanthius]
#9949527 - 03/11/09 12:26 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Zanthius said:
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Mufungo said: If we look at it through the evolutionary model, perhaps 'disliking' is a way of ensuring we don't mate or join the group of 'the wrong sort'. How we determine who to dislike I think is idiosyncratically multi-dimensional and can't be reduced to simply that the person represents something we hate about ourselves (although there might be some truth to this in some situations, how could it be tested?).
If that was true, then we should only dislike people of the opposite sex, as they are the only ones we can mate with. Also, women should dislike a lot more than men, as they have a greater genetic disadvantage from mating with the wrong person. After all, men can mate with multiple women almost simultaneously, so it doesn't matter that much if one of them is the "wrong one".
You might have missed the bit where I mentioned mate OR join the group of. As in, the choosing of who humans decided to have alliances with and support and who they didn't etc.. affecting natural selection and the way the gene pool evolved. Choosing the 'right' alliances could mean the difference between having your progeny eradicated or protected to go on to breed further..
But it's just an idea based on a model..
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Re: Have you ever met a person and just intrinsically disliked them? [Re: Mufungo]
#9949599 - 03/11/09 12:39 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mufungo said: You might have missed the bit where I mentioned mate OR join the group of. As in, the choosing of who humans decided to have alliances with and support and who they didn't etc.. affecting natural selection and the way the gene pool evolved. Choosing the 'right' alliances could mean the difference between having your progeny eradicated or protected to go on to breed further..
But it's just an idea based on a model..
Hmmm... yes, in many cases people probably decide what group to join, based on what group they consider to give them most success. I am not completely sure if this necessarily is synonymous with friendship though. People might get into an alliance with somebody they dislike, if it increases their chances of success.
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Re: Have you ever met a person and just intrinsically disliked them? [Re: Zanthius]
#9949641 - 03/11/09 12:51 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I see what you mean. I guess that's where humans cognitive ability to behave in ways that oppose their natural instinctual inclinations have given them an advantage in some instances, in terms of evolution..
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Re: Have you ever met a person and just intrinsically disliked them? [Re: deCypher]
#9950052 - 03/11/09 03:12 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yes it has happened.. And i dont think it had to do with any facet of myself personally.. Im usually right about these things.. and it turns out that the person is very "shady". Its weird.. i can sense it..
Other than that.. a few things seem to catch my eye.. Its not that i dislike their personality.. simply portions of their behavior. -When people shake their legs. I honestly cant stand it.. i try to move away.. but if there is no where else to sit.. ill ask them to stop. I dont think they can though..
-People that get bored very easy and wine how theres nothing to do. Especially certain females.. Like you have to entertain them or something. I instantly want to show them the time of their life..
-And .. ADD people.. those that ask you a question.. and wonder off as you answer.. It pisses me off.. and i dont know how to act next time they ask me a question.
Stoned people that talk really slow on purpose..
They all seem to be connected somehow..
I think i need to work on patience..
Oh.. and of course.. people that crack those annoying , not funny jokes.. like.. "can i see your lighter ? " and then they just show it to me..
OH YEAH ... people that make me say please , for stupid shit ! i hate those motherfuckers
To answer your question though.. in the manner that probably you expect it to be answered.. I dont despise anyone anymore.. not for any reason. Even if i get that feeling.. i try to look deeper. Just like you do geep within yourself.. and find those things youve hated.. and then you forgive.. The same goes outward.. There are no mistakes.
I also have a theory that some of these situations are actually soul-recognitions of , perhaps, people that have done us harm in previous lifetimes.. But im sure you dont want to start another discussion on reincarnation.
for example.. if you were a person that would quote that .. and only reply "Your right ..i dont" .. after my whole response.. That would go under one of those things that extremely annoy me , yet i try to cope with ..
Nice topic btw..
Do you think that those that may have intrinsically disliked you , have done so because you reminded them of something in themselves that they hate ? Is this another reminder of the darkness within us ? Or are you trying to show compassion and understand your disgust for certain humans ?
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Re: Have you ever met a person and just intrinsically disliked them? [Re: jivJaN]
#9950355 - 03/11/09 07:55 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Certain visual and behavioral features of people are subject to like and dislike. Moreso, attraction and repulsion
I think we like things that are like us, or like what we might like to be. We dislike things that we don't relate to or feel alienated from.
We like people who we would want on our hypothetical 'team'
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Re: Have you ever met a person and just intrinsically disliked them? [Re: jivJaN]
#9951834 - 03/11/09 01:45 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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jivJaN said: But im sure you dont want to start another discussion on reincarnation.
You're right... I don't.
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Re: Have you ever met a person and just intrinsically disliked them? [Re: jivJaN]
#9951860 - 03/11/09 01:50 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Just kidding...
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jivJaN said: Im usually right about these things.. and it turns out that the person is very "shady". Its weird.. i can sense it..
Yeah, same. Sometimes there's just something 'off' about a person; they might act perfectly normal interacting with others but it's glaringly obvious that there's something not quite right on the inside.
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jivJaN said: Do you think that those that may have intrinsically disliked you , have done so because you reminded them of something in themselves that they hate ? Is this another reminder of the darkness within us ? Or are you trying to show compassion and understand your disgust for certain humans ?
I think it's important to understand the darkness within us, but showing compassion can certainly be a useful skill to have. Understanding the source of your own desires and motivations is essential to understanding the world around you.
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Re: Have you ever met a person and just intrinsically disliked them? [Re: deCypher]
#9951906 - 03/11/09 01:58 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Whenever someone is met & there is a dislike its because there is something to reflect on in your own self, if it wasnt so then it wouldn't even register in our minds. It can only be the ego feeling threatened in some way.
Ive found that when this happens with me eventually ill warm up to the person & see how similar we really are
I find it funny how the people that annoy people the most are the nice ones, when some people meet a really nice religious or spiritual person, the egoic person will detest them the instant they lay eyes on them. I think its only right, they help that ego burn out its hate! Some people you only have to say the word God & you've lost them, automatically there is resistance there within them & they close off, the funniest thing is those people usually consider themselves not under the influence of religion! Yet when religion or God is mentioned, theres that resistance again....brilliant
Im not sure if your talking about this sorta thing or picking up on disturbed people, like you can sense someones a serial killer or something?
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Re: Have you ever met a person and just intrinsically disliked them? [Re: Chronic7]
#9951984 - 03/11/09 02:18 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I find it funny how the people that annoy people the most are the nice ones, when some people meet a really nice religious or spiritual person, the egoic person will detest them the instant they lay eyes on them. I think its only right, they help that ego burn out its hate! Some people you only have to say the word God & you've lost them, automatically there is resistance there within them & they close off, the funniest thing is those people usually consider themselves not under the influence of religion! Yet when religion or God is mentioned, theres that resistance again....brilliant
I noticed the opposite, people react much more nicely to people who are loving. It reflects the part of themselves they like. I have noticed many people get upset when you challenge their belief in god and the reasons for it. I don't dislike religious people at all. That said I'm not a fan of religion due to it's conformist nature.
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Re: Have you ever met a person and just intrinsically disliked them? [Re: Mufungo]
#9951987 - 03/11/09 02:19 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mufungo said: If we look at it through the evolutionary model, perhaps 'disliking' is a way of ensuring we don't mate or join the group of 'the wrong sort'.
I know that I like the women best who I think will make the best mothers for my children, and I want my children to receive as much love as possible from their mothers. As for males, it is probably mostly related to how well we are able to understand each other.
I usually dislike people that aren't able to understand me at all.
Edited by Zanthius (03/11/09 02:33 PM)
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Re: Have you ever met a person and just intrinsically disliked them? [Re: Zanthius]
#9952138 - 03/11/09 02:46 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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That makes sense
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Re: Have you ever met a person and just intrinsically disliked them? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#9952478 - 03/11/09 03:43 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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OrgoneConclusion said: Your entire analogy is faulty as any second year physics student would know. Perhaps you can tell us how you determine the resonant frequency of a personality.
Couldn't you hook them up to an EEG machine?
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Re: Have you ever met a person and just intrinsically disliked them? [Re: Epigallo]
#9952497 - 03/11/09 03:47 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Brain wave patterns have nothing to do with the concept of a resonant frequency.
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Re: Have you ever met a person and just intrinsically disliked them? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#9952610 - 03/11/09 04:10 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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OrgoneConclusion said: Brain wave patterns have nothing to do with the concept of a resonant frequency.
The processing of my emotional center has nothing to do with the theorizing of your intellectual center.
I listen to music with my emotional center, not with my intellectual center.
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Re: Have you ever met a person and just intrinsically disliked them? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#9953147 - 03/11/09 05:32 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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OrgoneConclusion said: Brain wave patterns have nothing to do with the concept of a resonant frequency.
If brainwaves are cycling at 30 Hz without input that directly alters them, isn't that the natural frequency of the brainwaves?
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Re: Have you ever met a person and just intrinsically disliked them? [Re: deCypher]
#9953339 - 03/11/09 06:00 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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There's a bus driver that I see sometimes that I dislike, and I'm 99% sure that he dislikes me as well. I would assume that this is due to appearance, mannerisms, and expectations of character.
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Re: Have you ever met a person and just intrinsically disliked them? [Re: Zanthius]
#9954037 - 03/11/09 07:40 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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bradley said:
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OrgoneConclusion said: Brain wave patterns have nothing to do with the concept of a resonant frequency.
If brainwaves are cycling at 30 Hz without input that directly alters them, isn't that the natural frequency of the brainwaves?
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Zanthius said:
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Mufungo said: If we look at it through the evolutionary model, perhaps 'disliking' is a way of ensuring we don't mate or join the group of 'the wrong sort'.
I know that I like the women best who I think will make the best mothers for my children, and I want my children to receive as much love as possible from their mothers. As for males, it is probably mostly related to how well we are able to understand each other.
I usually dislike people that aren't able to understand me at all.
I have never not met a person I didn't like intrinsically but I am an equal opportunity hater however I do like the women best and as for mothers there's a few MILFs out there that I would like to give as much love to as they could possible understand and if you males don't understand that well then it's time to share you greedy pricks.
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Re: Have you ever met a person and just intrinsically disliked them? [Re: Epigallo]
#9954053 - 03/11/09 07:41 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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bradley said:
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OrgoneConclusion said: Brain wave patterns have nothing to do with the concept of a resonant frequency.
If brainwaves are cycling at 30 Hz without input that directly alters them, isn't that the natural frequency of the brainwaves?
Crank up Dark Side of The Moon on a good stereo and then we can speak more intelligently about this.
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