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Mainlining THC
    #9923744 - 03/06/09 05:39 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

http://www.mindhacks.com/blog/2008/08/mainlining_the_activ.html

Mainlining the active ingredients of cannabis:

I've uploaded a fascinating video clip where a TV presenter is intravenously injected with the active ingredients of cannabis as part of the BBC documentary Should I Smoke Dope?

It's part of an experiment to compare the effects of intravenous THC and cannabidiol combined, with intravenous THC on its own. The mix of both gives the presenter a pleasant giggly high while THC on its own causes her to become desolate and paranoid.

Both are these are known to be key psychoactive ingredients in cannabis but the video is interesting as it is a reflection of the fact that THC has been most linked to an increased risk of developing psychosis while cannabidiol seems to have an antipsychotic effect.

As we discussed earlier this year, one study found that cannabis smokers who had higher levels of cannabidiol in hair samples had the lowest levels of psychosis-like experiences.

Another study we covered reported that, at least in the UK, 'skunk' has virtually no cannabidiol, while hash, although variable, was more likely to contain high cannabidiol levels.

And if you're after a more balanced view on the link between cannabis and psychosis than you normally get in the media, I've also uploaded a clip from the same programme where psychiatrist and leading cannabis researcher Robin Murray discusses the findings from the latest research.

If you want to check out the whole documentary, where BBC reporter Nicky Taylor gets stoned for 30 days in a row while investigating the science, culture and legal status of cannabis, it's available as a torrent or in six parts on YouTube (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6).


Link to video of IV cannabidiol and THC experiment.
Link to video of psychiatrist Robin Murray on cannabis and psychosis.

Click on the link to open the videos.

I think it's pretty interesting how you have to have both. It's proof that Marinol really isn't the best idea. They should make a pill with both.


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Re: Mainlining THC [Re: marshalldylan1]
    #9923767 - 03/06/09 05:44 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Wow.
That's crazy shit.
I've often wondered about that.


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Re: Mainlining THC [Re: HappyTrippin]
    #9923827 - 03/06/09 05:54 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

i thought u could only IV something that was nasally active :blush:


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Re: Mainlining THC [Re: Coaster]
    #9923833 - 03/06/09 05:55 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

You can IV pretty much anything.


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Re: Mainlining THC [Re: marshalldylan1]
    #9923837 - 03/06/09 05:55 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

that's water soluble


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Re: Mainlining THC [Re: marshalldylan1]
    #9923852 - 03/06/09 05:57 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

ya and i thought u couldnt rail kief cuz it isnt water soluble
or at least very insoluble but slightly soluble


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Re: Mainlining THC [Re: marshalldylan1]
    #9923856 - 03/06/09 05:58 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

I thought thc wasnt water soluable.

I learned that from reading the thread about some guy wanting to filter his bong water and get uber high from it. :facepalm:


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Re: Mainlining THC [Re: marshalldylan1]
    #9923980 - 03/06/09 06:22 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

I tried IV acid years ago, didn't really work that well. IV Chloral hydrate  on the other hand, burned like a MF, and put my dick in the dirt immediately. IV Placidyl didn't burn, but I didn't wake up for about 12 hours.Fentanyl  had me crawling on the floor immediately, but not unconscious.  Never shot  :potleaf:  :shrug:.. :syringe: bad Mmkay? Except for maybe this . or . . . . :peace:


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Re: Mainlining THC [Re: vinsue]
    #9923999 - 03/06/09 06:26 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Woah.. pure crystals of cocaine?!


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Re: Mainlining THC [Re: Brugman]
    #9924068 - 03/06/09 06:40 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Mix with blood in the  :syringe: no water necessary...:eek:


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Re: Mainlining THC [Re: vinsue]
    #9924791 - 03/06/09 08:51 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

....The mix of both gives the presenter a pleasant giggly high while THC on its own causes her to become desolate and paranoid....





I think it is so interesting how the different cannabinoids work with each other in harmony to produce the high we feel. Any one of the chemicals taken alone yields not the most pleasant experience.

Besides THC and Cannabidiol there are a handful of other cannabinoids that in different ratios to each other produce the endless variety of effects/highs that we get from different strains....:awesome:


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Re: Mainlining THC [Re: openmind]
    #9940383 - 03/09/09 05:30 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Why the FUCK would anyone want to IV weed?

I think this is just a tactic to make weed out to look as bad as other IV drugs.

I have NEVER heard of anybody IVing weed before
NEVER not even once.

Why IV it when it is much safer to just eat it?


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Re: Mainlining THC [Re: niteowl]
    #9940946 - 03/09/09 06:43 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

A friend in high school was asked one day by his mom, "are you shooting that marijuana again?"
We laughed about that one for years.


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Re: Mainlining THC [Re: niteowl]
    #9942304 - 03/09/09 11:06 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

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niteowl said:
Why the FUCK would anyone want to IV weed?

I think this is just a tactic to make weed out to look as bad as other IV drugs.

I have NEVER heard of anybody IVing weed before
NEVER not even once.

Why IV it when it is much safer to just eat it?




Did you click the link?

It's for science!

I would never mainline THC, but if a doctor was there I would do it in a heartbeat.


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Re: Mainlining THC [Re: marshalldylan1]
    #9942549 - 03/09/09 11:41 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Yea I checked out the link
I still think it is one of the most retarded things in the world to do.

Bottom line....WHY?

Why IV a plant that can be eaten to get the full effects?

I really don't see the point in this.


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Re: Mainlining THC [Re: niteowl]
    #9942709 - 03/10/09 12:05 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

What is your problem about IVing??  there is nothing inherently wrong with it...


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Re: Mainlining THC [Re: niteowl]
    #9942738 - 03/10/09 12:10 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

niteowl said:
Yea I checked out the link
I still think it is one of the most retarded things in the world to do.

Bottom line....WHY?




because it's a scientific experiment and they need to control doses with extreme precision?  can't really do that with smoke.


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Re: Mainlining THC [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #9942814 - 03/10/09 12:21 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

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suburbantoker said:
What is your problem about IVing??  there is nothing inherently wrong with it...




I have nothing against IVing
just that there is no need to IV weed.


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tiny_rabid_birds said:
because it's a scientific experiment and they need to control doses with extreme precision?  can't really do that with smoke.




Show me were (in this thread) I mentioned smoking.
Are you telling me that you can't control the dose by eating it?

I have a real problem when "scientist" try to extract "pure" samples from plants.

If THC was meant to be used in its pure form
it would grow on the plant in pods of pure THC

it doesn't work that way

the whole plant should be consumed, since it is the combination of chemicals in weed that is heplfull

extracting pure THC accomplishes nothing
the plant is perfect in its original form
no modification needed.


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Re: Mainlining THC [Re: niteowl]
    #9943025 - 03/10/09 12:53 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

right, i'm not arguing that the whole plant should be consumed.  but this is a scientific experiment looking to test very specific chemicals.
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extracting pure THC accomplishes nothing



unless you're studying the effects of pure THC...

IVing it has the very real benefit of very exact measurements and rather quick effects.  eating it is nowhere near as precise, even if you were using a standard dose, simply because it first has to be digested meaning you're introducing new variables (dependent on the effectiveness/absorption of the individual's digestive track).  injecting it straight into the bloodstream means you know exactly how much made it into the blood stream.  seems pretty straight forward, and entirely valid to me.

in any other circumstance, i'd completely agree with you that there's no point to extract nor IV.


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Re: Mainlining THC [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #9944311 - 03/10/09 08:47 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

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niteowl said:
I have a real problem when "scientist" try to extract "pure" samples from plants...



How about extractions from poppies, peyote, coca, cacao  or some of these... There are over a hundred chemical substances that have been derived from plants for use as drugs and medicines.


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