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Police drug-price estimates- how accurate?
    #9869234 - 02/26/09 02:16 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

There was a recent drug bust here that just got announced in the local paper. This is what the police said they seized, and the amount it is supposedly worth.

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Police reported recovering nearly 3 pounds of cocaine powder, more than 5 ounces of marijuana, more than 8 pounds of crystal methamphetamine, $73,629 cash, two rifles, one pistol and other drug paraphernalia.

The estimated street value of the drugs was $129,500 for the cocaine powder, based on $100 a gram; $2,000 for the marijuana, based on $400 an ounce; and $749,800 for the crystal methamphetamine, based on $200 a gram. The total value of the drugs was estimated at $881,300.




$100/g  coke  ???
$200/g meth  ???

Really???  Are they really worth that much? I have never touched either of those chemicals, but those prices seem fucking ludicrously expensive!!!

Was hoping to some opinions.... I'm not asking for the prices of drugs in your areas. How over-valued (or not?) were the drugs in this bust, according to the local police?


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Re: Police drug-price estimates- how accurate? [Re: Gr8fulJ420]
    #9869250 - 02/26/09 02:20 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

supper overvalued.


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Re: Police drug-price estimates- how accurate? [Re: Gr8fulJ420]
    #9869260 - 02/26/09 02:21 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

When they calculate the "street price" of drugs they seize.. it usually tends to be multiple times more than what they are actually worth on the street. Or the highest they go for


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Re: Police drug-price estimates- how accurate? [Re: Gr8fulJ420]
    #9869261 - 02/26/09 02:21 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

My guess is that they over-estimated price so the bust looked bigger. :thumbup:


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Re: Police drug-price estimates- how accurate? [Re: Gr8fulJ420]
    #9869267 - 02/26/09 02:22 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

well it also depends on quality of the product. good MJ can most certainly go for around 400, but it can also be a quarter of that price. i think that goes for pretty much anything. where was this from? Is it from a city? suburbs? rural? all that matters... so you cant say "yes that price is good " or "that price is bad" - everyone who responds will respond differently for the most part.


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Re: Police drug-price estimates- how accurate? [Re: Pigasus]
    #9869270 - 02/26/09 02:23 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Last 8-ball I bought was 180 for 3.5 grams.........

I thought meth was cheaper than coke too.......:shrug:


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Re: Police drug-price estimates- how accurate? [Re: Gr8fulJ420]
    #9869431 - 02/26/09 02:51 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

A gram of 80%-90% pure coke goes for $40 in Atlanta.


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Re: Police drug-price estimates- how accurate? [Re: Gumby]
    #9869459 - 02/26/09 02:55 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

They should just say the weight. Inflating the price is pure propaganda. They have no way of knowing the price either because it fluctuates as well.

When the cops say they seized $100,000 worth of meth, what they really mean is one guy got screwed out of $2,000 worth of meth and the $100,000 off the street that would be going to him is going to a different guy.


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Re: Police drug-price estimates- how accurate? [Re: Gumby]
    #9869479 - 02/26/09 03:00 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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A gram of 80%-90% pure coke goes for $40 in Atlanta.




there is no such thing as 80-90% pure coke when it comes to buying grams.  the only people who get close to that kind of purity is people buying kilos, and even still it is unlikely to get 90% pure coke.  they will cut it and sell it by ounces, and then that person will cut it and sell it by 1/4s 1/8s or grams. so yeah a gram of 90% pure, dont think so


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Re: Police drug-price estimates- how accurate? [Re: CubensisCutter]
    #9869602 - 02/26/09 03:19 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

I stand corrected. I didn't know it was cut that much. Out of curiosity, how much do kilos of coke run, anyone know? I wouldn't even want to know the kind of people I could get that from.


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Re: Police drug-price estimates- how accurate? [Re: Gumby]
    #9869688 - 02/26/09 03:30 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Police always overestimate, because the amount of money they get from the DEA and other law enforcement agencies, including the government, is based on a "points" system. The higher amount they seize, the more money they get. So there is an unspoken rule among all law enforcement that they ALWAYS conflate the value of the drugs they seize when they make reports. What's interesting is the prices they "invent" usually vary only a little across all law enforcement - it's like they know they can bullshit only too much, beyond that it becomes obvious.

I think the way they accomplish this is they assume the end user buys the smallest amount of the drug possible, thereby paying more money for a gram. An end user, according to their logic, would not buy a gram of cocaine, but would pay a higher price for maybe a tenth of a gram. They multiple the number paid for the tiny amount by 5 or 10, and they get the price for the full gram.

This is especially obvious in the way the police price marijuana. Marijuana is always priced according to the police at $20 a gram, and the police assume all end users buy grams in their calculations. Therefore, an ounce of high quality marijuana, usually sold in "bulk" for around $350-$400, comes out to over $500.


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Re: Police drug-price estimates- how accurate? [Re: Platinum]
    #9869766 - 02/26/09 03:41 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

My location is Maui county, in the state of Hawaii. It's a small island with a big drug habit.

In general, things are 20-40% more expensive out here.... milk, beer, bread. Drugs certainly should be more expensive, cuz there is more work and cost and risk associated with moving them from their mainland sources to the islands. 

$200 for a gram of meth? I thought the whole reason meth was the epidemic it is was because of its cheapness.


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Re: Police drug-price estimates- how accurate? [Re: Gr8fulJ420]
    #9869868 - 02/26/09 03:59 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

$280 for an ouce of pot here so they are $120 off.


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Re: Police drug-price estimates- how accurate? [Re: Gr8fulJ420]
    #9869996 - 02/26/09 04:24 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

The police always overestimate the worth of the drugs.
They make a haul like that and say "This is 1M dollars worth of drugs", like the guy who's selling it is going to move it all in half gram amounts.


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Re: Police drug-price estimates- how accurate? [Re: DragonChaser]
    #9870167 - 02/26/09 04:51 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

From "superhigh me"

Enter DEA Agent holding a bag with less than a gram of pot
"STREET VALUE ONE MILLION DOLLARS!", he yells.


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Re: Police drug-price estimates- how accurate? [Re: Tien]
    #9870191 - 02/26/09 04:56 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Maybe the government just happens to seize all the super-duper high quality drugs, from people who buy hundreds of kilos and happen to sell them all in single doses.


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Re: Police drug-price estimates- how accurate? [Re: DragonChaser]
    #9870254 - 02/26/09 05:05 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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The police always overestimate the worth of the drugs.
They make a haul like that and say "This is 1M dollars worth of drugs", like the guy who's selling it is going to move it all in half gram amounts.




Exactly, a bust worth a couple of hundred thousand is going to sound more impressive (and like they've made some kind of dent in the local market) than a smaller number, so they just use the largest figures they can.


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Re: Police drug-price estimates- how accurate? [Re: Gumby]
    #9870553 - 02/26/09 05:44 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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I stand corrected. I didn't know it was cut that much. Out of curiosity, how much do kilos of coke run, anyone know? I wouldn't even want to know the kind of people I could get that from.




2500€/Kg over here. That's from Holland though. You can sell it for 40-50€+ easily though.

But I guess you can't relate to that with dollars :P.


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Re: Police drug-price estimates- how accurate? [Re: Gr8fulJ420]
    #9870673 - 02/26/09 06:05 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

I remember reading a police report of a boat loaded with hundreds, maybe thousands of pounds of marijuana getting busted.  I forget the exact numbers, as it was years ago, but we broke it down to the eighth ounce level and by their estimation people are paying like $200/eighth for brick weed. :rolleyes:


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Re: Police drug-price estimates- how accurate? [Re: Gr8fulJ420]
    #9870723 - 02/26/09 06:15 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

lol guys, you should come to Australia.

$50 for 0.1g of meth, $400+ for 1g.

No wonder our meth addicts cause so much crime.


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Re: Police drug-price estimates- how accurate? [Re: Chubba]
    #9871182 - 02/26/09 07:28 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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lol guys, you should come to Australia.

$50 for 0.1g of meth, $400+ for 1g.

No wonder our meth addicts cause so much crime.




Where are you in Aus? I'm in Tasmania where everything costs even more than the rest of Aus and it's heaps cheaper than that down here.

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Re: Police drug-price estimates- how accurate? [Re: Gr8fulJ420]
    #9871354 - 02/26/09 07:51 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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Gr8fulJ420 said:
There was a recent drug bust here that just got announced in the local paper. This is what the police said they seized, and the amount it is supposedly worth.

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Police reported recovering nearly 3 pounds of cocaine powder, more than 5 ounces of marijuana, more than 8 pounds of crystal methamphetamine, $73,629 cash, two rifles, one pistol and other drug paraphernalia.

The estimated street value of the drugs was $129,500 for the cocaine powder, based on $100 a gram; $2,000 for the marijuana, based on $400 an ounce; and $749,800 for the crystal methamphetamine, based on $200 a gram. The total value of the drugs was estimated at $881,300.




$100/g  coke  ???
$200/g meth  ???

Really???  Are they really worth that much? I have never touched either of those chemicals, but those prices seem fucking ludicrously expensive!!!

Was hoping to some opinions.... I'm not asking for the prices of drugs in your areas. How over-valued (or not?) were the drugs in this bust, according to the local police?





coke i can get for 50 a gram. i'm sure its been cut a couple times though.

this other guy sells it for 90 a gram and its so impure that i refuse to buy it anymore. feel like i'm blowing nail polish remover :puke:


don't know about meth


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Re: Police drug-price estimates- how accurate? [Re: igwna]
    #9871386 - 02/26/09 07:54 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

My favorite is when they bust a grow and estimate the value of the seized MJ based upon the wet weight of the entire plant.


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Re: Police drug-price estimates- how accurate? [Re: antiPock]
    #9871716 - 02/26/09 08:33 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

They do the same shit with mushrooms, even though everyone knows mushies are 90% water.


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Re: Police drug-price estimates- how accurate? [Re: Gr8fulJ420]
    #9871730 - 02/26/09 08:36 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

they over exaggerate the prices to make themselves look better

"this bust involved 728 billion dollars worth of illegal drugs!"


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