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Growing mushrooms from other mushrooms...
    #9766437 - 02/09/09 03:20 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Okay so Im growing a batch of mushrooms using brown rice flower, vermiculite, and mushroom spores I got online. I wanted to know if there was any way to start another batch from the mushrooms I am already growing or if I have to order another spore syringe. I read that you could use a piece of a mushroom that is already growing or a piece of the mycelium, but that you have to use organic brown rice as the substrate or something like that. Any ideas on the easiest way to keep this grow operation growing..?

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Re: Growing mushrooms from other mushrooms... [Re: ragingcelery]
    #9766477 - 02/09/09 03:28 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

You could take a print and make it into a spore syringe.

You could clone a fresh mushroom and do it that way to.


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Re: Growing mushrooms from other mushrooms... [Re: ragingcelery]
    #9766479 - 02/09/09 03:28 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: Growing mushrooms from other mushrooms... [Re: ragingcelery]
    #9766498 - 02/09/09 03:32 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

For example grain of wheat. Here it is very important to create a suitable microclimate. Not too damp! And not too crude! On sensations it should be, as air with an easy fog. Then, when will begin to grow fruits, the humidity can be raised(increased).
Concerning a choice of a nutritious basis. Try different variants. A grain of wheat one of the most nutritious bases.

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Re: Growing mushrooms from other mushrooms... [Re: ragingcelery]
    #9766502 - 02/09/09 03:32 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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ragingcelery said:
...you could use a piece of a mushroom...but...you have to use organic brown rice as the substrate





Woah, woah!  I'd never heard about the BR requirement for this.  Anyone care to support or bust that statement?

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Re: Growing mushrooms from other mushrooms... [Re: Hallucinogenist]
    #9766511 - 02/09/09 03:33 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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ragingcelery said:
...you could use a piece of a mushroom...but...you have to use organic brown rice as the substrate





Woah, woah!  I'd never heard about the BR requirement for this.  Anyone care to support or bust that statement?




Not true.

Busted.


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Re: Growing mushrooms from other mushrooms... [Re: PsychOfMSE]
    #9766521 - 02/09/09 03:35 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

yeah you could put a piece of tissue in an LC jar but any rye jar should also work for that. But in any case you have to be verry sterile in that process.

Probably harder to do with a PF-Tek jar since you have a dry vermiculite layer on top.

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Re: Growing mushrooms from other mushrooms... [Re: ragingcelery]
    #9766525 - 02/09/09 03:36 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Personally I would grow the ones you have and take a spore print from a mature shroomie. You can even use the syringe you used on the first batch :wink:

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Re: Growing mushrooms from other mushrooms... [Re: PsychOfMSE]
    #9766528 - 02/09/09 03:36 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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Not true.

Busted.




Good.  Thought I somehow was outta the loop for a second.  ^_^

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Re: Growing mushrooms from other mushrooms... [Re: bonzo1188]
    #9766544 - 02/09/09 03:38 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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Personally I would grow the ones you have and take a spore print from a mature shroomie. You can even use the syringe you used on the first batch :wink:



why not do both?
the cloning would be faster though and if you select the nicest fruiter you'll have saved his genes which you could also do with a print.

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Re: Growing mushrooms from other mushrooms... [Re: Roggen_Rocker]
    #9766550 - 02/09/09 03:39 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Taking a print and growing again from MS should be a last resort.

You'll experience a much better harvest if you clone your fastest/largest fruit in a LC and inoculate with that.


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Re: Growing mushrooms from other mushrooms... [Re: PsychOfMSE]
    #9766627 - 02/09/09 03:50 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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Taking a print and growing again from MS should be a last resort.

You'll experience a much better harvest if you clone your fastest/largest fruit in a LC and inoculate with that.




I disagree, taking just 1 print will extend your spore suplly quite drasticaly. And it adds as a backup. Remember 1 spore print can make many syringes up. And also can last many many years.

It would be a shame to make up and LC from a tissue sample to then find that its contaminated and have lost that strain.

Take prints for storing. If you feel confident follow a good cloning tek. Just dont keep cloning and cloning. You will still ahve to go back to spores at some point.


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Re: Growing mushrooms from other mushrooms... [Re: veda_sticks]
    #9766636 - 02/09/09 03:51 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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PsychOfMSE said:
Taking a print and growing again from MS should be a last resort.

You'll experience a much better harvest if you clone your fastest/largest fruit in a LC and inoculate with that.




I disagree, taking just 1 print will extend your spore suplly quite drasticaly. And it adds as a backup. Remember 1 spore print can make many syringes up. And also can last many many years.

It would be a shame to make up and LC from a tissue sample to then find that its contaminated and have lost that strain.

Take prints for storing. If you feel confident follow a good cloning tek. Just dont keep cloning and cloning. You will still ahve to go back to spores at some point.




I never said to NOT take a print, you should take prints off every grow, you can NEVER have enough spores!  I meant growing from one of the spore prints taken should be a last resort, a clone LC will produce much better yields if done correctly.


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Large_Dose's Ohmatic Monotub Tek
Monstermitch's LC/WBS/Monotub/Casing Tek

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