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Monotub fruiting too early
    #9679353 - 01/25/09 08:40 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Hey everyone,

So I have a monotub that is colonizing (about 7-10 days in)...and it just so happens that this monotub is located near a room that is growing certain plants in it...

Apparently I did not do as good of a job light proofing as i thought i did and the monotub has been exposed to light. Upon checking i noticed one single little tiny mushroom on the side; I could not see any other mushrooms or pins.

So...is it too late for my monotub???? Do i have to start fruiting now, or would it be ok to pick that shroom, throw a casing on it, and let it re-colonize for a few more days before subjecting it to pinning conditions?

Any and all help is greatly appreciated.


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Re: Monotub fruiting too early [Re: burntcokie13]
    #9679608 - 01/25/09 09:30 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

is your tub fully colonized?

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Re: Monotub fruiting too early [Re: burntcokie13]
    #9679623 - 01/25/09 09:34 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

After 7-10 days, you should have a fair amount of colonization. If your not at 100%, i'd bet your at least 80% or higher.

I would just put it fully into fruiting conditions...it will still continue to colonize, and you will probably get a staggered first flush.


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Re: Monotub fruiting too early [Re: burntcokie13]
    #9679896 - 01/25/09 10:22 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

If i were you i'd put a thin casing layer of 50/50+ (1/2" or less) and put it in an FC. It always pays to case in the long run.


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Re: Monotub fruiting too early [Re: Weed_Indicated]
    #9679926 - 01/25/09 10:26 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Your tub is probably getting too much fae during colonization.  I leave my tubs open to light (view port) and they won't pin till I give them fresh air.


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Re: Monotub fruiting too early [Re: Spongiform]
    #9679965 - 01/25/09 10:33 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

keep that tub sealed till you reach 100% colonization
tape your holes and keep the lid on
i had a tub that i looked at every day and it started to pin about 50% of the way thru
so i decided to fruit it
my first flush SUCKED
so did the second,third
thats because the sub did not colonize 100% in the first place
like spongi said use a clear lid
and keep it closed

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Re: Monotub fruiting too early [Re: noobieshroomie]
    #9680154 - 01/25/09 11:05 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

pick it


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Re: Monotub fruiting too early [Re: Captain Caveman]
    #9680296 - 01/25/09 11:44 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Yup, i bet too much FAE is the problem, the last monotub i had was almost completely sealed and it got contams to hell and gone. Also, the room right next to where the monotub is has fans for intake and circulation...I guess there is such a thing as being too careful.

So then, seal it up until its 100% colonized? Should I put a casing layer after that?

Also, once I take away the fruiting conditions will the myc know to recolonize or will it still try and fruit?

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Re: Monotub fruiting too early [Re: burntcokie13]
    #9680393 - 01/26/09 12:24 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

seal it up and you need a 1" hole at least with some polyfill or micropore tape or tyvek to gas exchange, otherwise the mycellium will suffocate.


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Re: Monotub fruiting too early [Re: Buckeye Oysters]
    #9681463 - 01/26/09 09:50 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

You need to allow for small amounts of gas exchange.  Holes stuffed with polyfill will handle that.

If you use a clear lid or add a view port then you can check on it without opening it.  Opening it allows for enough fresh air to stimulate pinning.


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Re: Monotub fruiting too early [Re: Spongiform]
    #20372392 - 08/04/14 10:01 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

Sorry but I couldn't figure out how to post lol got frustrated so, my question is should I fruit this monotub which is B+ cased and mixed with coir and verm


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Re: Monotub fruiting too early [Re: Kushisking]
    #20372413 - 08/04/14 10:07 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

Why's it all cracked? Bacteria maybe?


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Re: Monotub fruiting too early [Re: azur]
    #20372427 - 08/04/14 10:14 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

No just moved it around to much lol


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Re: Monotub fruiting too early [Re: Kushisking]
    #20372468 - 08/04/14 10:29 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

I'm not questioning if it's contammed or not I just simply want to know if it a ready to fruit


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Re: Monotub fruiting too early [Re: Kushisking]
    #20372551 - 08/04/14 10:56 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

Yes, it is. Except for the fact that I think it has bacteria. I clean colonized sub should not break that easily. Should still produce though. Fruit it


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Re: Monotub fruiting too early [Re: azur]
    #20373396 - 08/04/14 03:09 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

As long as it's fully colonized and I think the casing layer just cracked because it did before it even started colonizing it the day I made it if like to also mention not a single pin but very long hairy growth

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Re: Monotub fruiting too early [Re: Spongiform]
    #27800326 - 05/31/22 01:01 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Im sorry im new here and i know this post is old so i apologize if im breaking any rules, and please let me know for the future. My question: about how long (on average) should it take for my GT monotub to be colonized enough to stuff it and flip it to fruiting. All around the perimeter i have smaller size mycelium knots popping out of my casing layer ( i cased at spawn mix when i first added my sub:spawn to my tub) and everything looks very healthy white but theyre just these knots. The mycelium isnt really spreading out around the knots like i see in almost every other tub. It has been 12 days. At day 10 i un duct taped the hole on each side and replaced with 1 layer of micropore tape thinking maybe a litttttle more GE might help things along. No signs of contamination so far. Everything looks like its perfect but its just growing very slow. Kept in room between 74F-76F on a night stand in a room we dont use and out of direct sunlight, sides and top have been moist since i added the sub:spawn, im pretty sure i hit as close to perfect field capacity you could hit. (Beginners luck🤷🏻♂️ Atleast with that part haha)
Im thinking its colonized enough under the un-even casing layer and should be fine if i stuff the holes with polyfill and introduce FAE. Or should i do what ive been told a thousand times AND HAVE BEEN DOING Haha, and wait her out and give her a few more colonization days.

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Re: Monotub fruiting too early [Re: C3G] * 1
    #27800603 - 05/31/22 04:38 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Ya its generally not the best etiquette to bump a thread this old unless you're adding new information. If you've got questions like you asked you can ask in a thread you create, or go into a more active thread that is about your question, or maybe the general cult thread would have been good too.

Having said that I'll give ya the best answer I can so you don't have to repost your question. Most of us don't differentiate between colonizing and fruiting we start fae as soon as we spawn. The most important thing is to keep up good surface conditions. So I would put your polyfill in if that's your plan and don't be afraid to give it some light. Light has been shown to be beneficial to mycelium in all stages of growth so no need to keep it all tucked away to colonize anymore.

This is a really good thread on keeping surface conditions up. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23999053

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