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 Muppet69_420
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 Re: Who Are You? [Re: Veritas]
#9643907 - 01/20/09 05:05 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hopefully science prooves undoubtedly meaning for life after death. Something we can all feel comfortable with especially since natural deaths or survival instincts for food etc is a beuatiful thing we are just cursed with complexity for the love to live as any creature naturaly but our minds differ I think since we have some unique thingy in brainy making us fear death we love with worry we are spiritual beings we were meant to question these things dont you just hate not knowing what happens when you are dead?
If your burried in a casket darkness covers you so in hell.
Sun light...energy life supposed big bang...gases...chemistry...molecules...so would it be better to give your corpse to give life thus tranferring your essence into life which also provides some sort of life which the chain goes on for how long? Will the universe ever.....die out?
Supposedly humans have an aura around the body which isnt body heat rather a invisible energy that surrounds our bodies...dunno if thats all true but if it were well maybe when our body decays that aura transforms or something similar.
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On that note fart in public and grin. 
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Different people different faces.
I grew up an LA punk from Hollywood.
I went to Maharishi U in Fairfield when 17.
I did some extra work in some famous movies.
I moved to NOLA
I have been a chef for 20 years
having done the whole fucking thing.
I meditate daily.
I am a druggie without good druggie friends.
That's me.
Hope you liked it.
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Bernackums
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Re: Who Are You? [Re: Veritas]
#9654297 - 01/21/09 05:53 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Firstly, it was an excellent idea to take this idea to P&S, Veritas, and I think this is somewhere it could really be useful. Also, this is my first post since I found myself internetless so: Hello. 
Sorry if this is long, but I can just reference it if another thread like this arises. 
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1. What was your upbringing? Did your family have money? Were they religious? Did they discuss philosophy and/or spirituality with you?
I was born white into a middle class family with three older brothers from a different dad and an already unstable household. Around the age of five or six my parents divorced, which except for during a couple moments didn't and hasn't caused me much distress. I always figured that they don't get along so they shouldn't be together.
Both parents were religious but neither to a great extent, I was taken to church and programmed as a Christian for the first twelve years of my life. I had never really understood it (and for good reason), and I didn't partake in praise and worship despite an already present love for music, and rarely in anything else.
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2. How was your educational experience? Did you enjoy school? Were you academically-oriented, or disinterested? How much of your education has found application in your daily life?
School was not an enjoyable experience per se, from sixth to tenth grade I was gaining weight, and with that came the privilege of not enjoying any middle-highschool romances. I gained alot of insight into people and relationships through this, being the guy who would talk and fall in love with girls but was never satisfied due to unattractiveness. At the time this irritated me greatly, though I now understand this is simply as humans are. I feel sex is a very important part of a committed relationship and I hold nothing against these ladies.
I can pin point one of the best turn arounds in my life being a direct result of getting a job at a pizza place. Exposure to great people, music, and drugs ensued. After some personal researching and a few months of consistent peer pressuring on the job, I smoked some pot. This got me thinking. Smoking pot after working late most school nights contributed to me sleeping through most classes (which was not unusual anyways), skipping the others and making up for all that ignored homework in the last week before exams. Thankfully we have school systems catered towards apathy. Sadly, this apathy is in the entire system and not just the students.
I did drum in a the jazz program grades 7-11, and my love for music prospered throughout. My love for my teachers, though...
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3. What career interests you? Are you working in this career now? Do you feel satisfied in your work, or is it mainly a paycheck job? What work would you do if you did not have to earn money?
After trying to get into a few better paying industries I fell back in a slump to a nice kitchen job where I cook lunch for folks six days a week. This is an atmosphere I quite enjoy.
I haven't been able to decide on any specific career, ideally I would make music out in nature and get paid slightly less than a professional athlete for it. Realistically though I can't think of any career in the music industry I would like to pursue, but have currently come up with a back up solution of taking a two year course in Massage Therapy. I feel that if my work were to make someone else feel good I would find alot more motivation in it than I would in another. The course would also satisfy my growing thirst for knowledge of the human body.
Ideally I would also go to university around the age of 30 with enough money in the bank to pursue educational interests without focusing on career choices. The only problem I see with this is that I've never done homework unless it was absolutely neccesary, and this is a habit that I'm certain a decade and bit of doing nothing about won't fix.
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4. Has your philosophy/spirituality changed much over the years? Have you had epiphanies or rude awakenings which led you to reconsider your beliefs/values? At what age did you first become interested in philosophy/spirituality?
I've mentioned this in these forums before several times but I was raised in a Christian environment, but I could never really dig it, too many plot holes. Due to being raised around the idea, it was very hard to shake the feeling of God though. The idea had never settled in my mind, but there was an uncertainty of the world around me, having been told the cause for everything around me was God. The feeling to pray for protection when I was scared or for mercy when I was hurting, or rather, the feeling that resulted is what I felt of this God. The feeling I mentioned is the feeling of blind hope that everything would be made better by an unseeable force, this is a feeling I came to less and less very quickly.
Around the age of twelve I dropped the tag Christian because I really did not like the associations I had with it. A few years, friends, and drugs later I found P&S and I started questioning alot harder. I slapped on the tag Agnostic, the belief in God was no longer present, but Agnosticism was the easiest solution while still under a Christian roof.
I could not be more thankful for Shroomery's Philosophy & Spirituality forum, I found it was just the right time in my life during a crisis in my belief system and a coming of age with psychedelics. I have learned from many on here but I must say that some key catalysts in my thought process were Icelander's posts. They resonated very well with me and held a sharp and satisfying accuracy that I had never observed before.
I'm not exactly sure what happened when, but reading the opinions of others and having these view points expressed logically and thoughtfully started to pluck strings out of the ball of yarn (that was my mind), and then I could start to unravel my thought process and analyze myself in a way I had never before. Progress has ensued, it's only been two and a bit years and I feel like I am inside a new mind, one I enjoy much more.
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5. What are your core values? How are these values expressed in your daily life? Do you feel that your values are similar or dissimilar to those of the majority?
I really don't know what my core values would be, this life is absurd and scary and embracing and loving and hurting and all of it is equally valuable in the sense that other than what value I apply, everything is irrelevant. But I do value beauty, which is yet again subjective. And I find this beauty everywhere in this life, the whole concept is beautiful, ... and this is when I no longer have words for what I would like to express. But if I could communicated this feeling it would be beautiful, I promise you.
I suppose I feel mostly like an observer. That is to say, yes, I enjoy the feelings of love and happiness but I also understand these would not be here without the lack there of. I do not feel any drive to create happiness or fight suffering, it is all very essential yes but I would much prefer to simply watch and feel the beauty. I don't fight unhappiness or cling to good feelings, I bob on top of the wave that is the human existance.
I have started to notice more and more recently that I easily get defensive around the subject of age. I am 17, but more often than not I cannot relate to a 17 year old. I have always prefered older company, and through observation realized other than intentional refining of the thought process humans aged 17 to 55 share the same method of thinking I do, confirming that just because someone is older it does not make them better. If you see me getting defensive, please let me know. 
You are all a part of my story. 
Edit (More!?): I should mention that I find alot of value in awareness. Not neccesarily how the word is used around these parts, but knowing and understanding the root of action and emotion is how I use awareness; being aware of the cause of the observed effect. This results from introspection, nearly my favorite pass time.
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Axiom420
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I and I am I am.;)
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Bernackums
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Re: Who Are You? [Re: Axiom420]
#9655201 - 01/21/09 08:18 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I wish I understood.
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objective and subjective are always in motion
and if i just look at the me sometimes it seems foreign, like maybe that's not really me at all.
I would like to get to a place where the me isn't participating so much, so i can just look at things without me getting in the way with all his concepts and ideas and internal models.
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Bernackums
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Re: Who Are You? [Re: Freedom]
#9668155 - 01/23/09 08:47 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I would like to get to a place where the me isn't participating so much, so i can just look at things without me getting in the way with all his concepts and ideas and internal models.
Me too.
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 The Chronic
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I would like to get to a place where the me isn't participating so much, so i can just look at things without me getting in the way with all his concepts and ideas and internal models.
Me too.
Its easier than you think, the 'me' is only an idea
If you see that this 'me' is nothing but an idea then how long can the idea trouble you?
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Bernackums
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I am not troubled by the ego, I think it is a very functional mechanism.
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Re: Who Are You? [Re: Veritas]
#9713729 - 01/31/09 06:24 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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i grew up, then i grew sideways
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Poid
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I am not troubled by the ego, I think it is a very functional mechanism.
....but doesn't it ever bother you, or make you slightly nervous at least sometimes?
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Re: Who Are You? [Re: sleepy]
#9718664 - 02/01/09 04:26 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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i grew up, then i grew sideways
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Bernackums
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Re: Who Are You? [Re: Poid]
#9718909 - 02/01/09 05:15 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Poid said:
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Bernackums said:
I am not troubled by the ego, I think it is a very functional mechanism.
....but doesn't it ever bother you, or make you slightly nervous at least sometimes?
Things I find bothersome don't usually make me nervous so that feels like two questions, but not really, no.
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Re: Who Are You? [Re: Veritas]
#9750948 - 02/06/09 03:48 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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1. I was raised in a poor part of an economically failing city, I was permitted to do as I pleased which led to a stunted maturation. My family had no money or showed any desire to work. My mother was “religious” with an anglican backward concept of God, she never discussed religion or even school work or my life but provided what a child fundamentally needed, displays of affection.
2. I failed in every measure of secondary education due to experiencing a difficult childhood. I have only just began to remember some school days, I am 31. So therefore I blocked out all of my high school days, Prior to my abusive experiences (age10) I was very academically sighted. But since my "impressive" curriculum days have passed while i was not "there" - I left school with no formal qualifications, my life has only really began in the past 5 years.
3. I have an innate need to help other people, so I am driven to service oriented jobs, I am currently out of work, taking time to participate in intensive therapy to remake my life. But when I do work, I love my work, the action becomes a display for the love I can have for my life and the things in it. My Ideal job would be to volunteer my time abroad in third world countries; I am starting my app process for VSO in May.
4. My philosophy has changed dramatically over the past two years, vast knowledge has came my way and my beliefs have elevated me from hell to living heaven on earth. My old philosophy on spirituality was distorted due to my mother and my own willful ignorance, It has taken a total reconstruction of the structure of beliefs I held on life, myself and God to arrive at the conclusions I have today. I genuinely became interested in spirituality and philosophy at age 29.
5. My driving value is: I am a happy person today and it is only natural for a happy person to see other people happy, I try to cut out motives other than altruism, I make this happen by being open and honest with folk. I think too many people are living in maya and so people may not have thought about certain things before;
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Like those who see others dying around them, yet forget they must die one day likewise, he had seen other people's domestic tragedies take place, but never for a moment imagined that tragedies of a like nature could ever happen in connection with himself. And that being so, he had never given an instant of thought as to how he should act under similar circumstances, so that when the blow fell he was like a child thrown into troublous waters and quite unable to swim.
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Re: Who Are You? [Re: Veritas]
#9755730 - 02/07/09 03:33 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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How about guessing each others' bios instead?
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Isn't that what many of us do already? 
If the Off-Topic Discussion forum weren't the way it is right now, we wouldn't have to be guessing each others' bios. We would be able to freely get to know each other more intimately, without having a bunch of fools play their silly little pointless ego games.
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Poid
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Bernackums said:
I am not troubled by the ego, I think it is a very functional mechanism.
....but doesn't it ever bother you, or make you slightly nervous at least sometimes?
Things I find bothersome don't usually make me nervous so that feels like two questions, but not really, no.
It was two questions.
So you never feel nervous? I doubt that....
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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylanfireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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Re: Who Are You? [Re: Veritas]
#9758646 - 02/08/09 01:07 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm me. And I'm here to feel smart.
Other than that, I'm 22 and about to graduate a community college. I'm all set to transfer to a four-year school in the fall, and I am still shaky about what direction I want to aim myself in life. I'm fairly certain that I'd be happy with a biology degree. But part of me still isn't tame to the idea. And I can't quite put my finger on it.
I don't really have any passions, so I tend to feel dead at irons.
I work at a hippie mart, which is ok. The store's not doin' so well, which is not ok. So, boss lady is being uber bitch. But I make good money for what I do and I can't really lose that at the moment. Beyond the thinking skills that school work gives me, I don't use my education on the job. And, no, just because I work at a health food store does not mean that I eat healthy. Being more aware of what I eat is the lesson learned.
I firmly believe in the power of 'stillness.' Being still has opened doors for me. Yet, I've been avoiding tranquility. Something's bugging me and I don't know what. I want a definite way to bring it out in the open. Spontaneously, preferred.
My core beliefs change from moment to moment:
I love my cat. She was an adult adoption and loving her has taught me patience.
I love my family. Each and every one of them has been an inspirational individual.
I believe in love. I believe that I'm worth something. I believe that everyone is worth something.
I'll see what I believe tomorrow. I believe I'm sorta cynical....
Good idea V. This is a nice way to vent without fear of reprisal.
I believe that a good speaker knows when to stand up, speak up, and shut up.
edited 'Reply to' line and indefinite verb. and to post content that doesn't make me seem like too much of a jackass
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Bernackums
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So you never feel nervous? I doubt that....
I didn't say this, I said I'm not made nervous by the idea of the ego. To be nervous at all is for the ego to be nervous, I thought we were discussing the ego being nervous about the ego.
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Poid
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So you never feel nervous? I doubt that....
I didn't say this, I said I'm not made nervous by the idea of the ego. To be nervous at all is for the ego to be nervous, I thought we were discussing the ego being nervous about the ego.
Yes, you're right, my mistake! 
I guess a better question would be, "Don't you think that it's strange that we even have egos at all? ".
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Re: Who Are You? [Re: Veritas]
#9780711 - 02/11/09 07:14 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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1. What was your upbringing? Did your family have money? Were they religious? Did they discuss philosophy and/or spirituality with you?
my lower middle class family tried to encourage me to be Jewish; were unhappy to find me secretly meditating cross-legged at 15.
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2. How was your educational experience? Did you enjoy school? Were you academically-oriented, or disinterested? How much of your education has found application in your daily life?
hated school - did very well in english and languages and maths and science.
just history mixed me up. (I have trouble with people's names, never knew who they were talking about, or why they bothered, the stories seemed so fake)
mostly english has been of value in daily life, I did learn to precis in grade 11, and that ability to go over a paragraph and remove what is not necessary and combine what is left is still my favorite skill.
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3. What career interests you? Are you working in this career now? Do you feel satisfied in your work, or is it mainly a paycheck job? What work would you do if you did not have to earn money?
my paycheck job is interesting but if I did not have to earn money I would just paint and sketch.
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4. Has your philosophy/spirituality changed much over the years? Have you had epiphanies or rude awakenings which led you to reconsider your beliefs/values? At what age did you first become interested in philosophy/spirituality?
I am always having rude awakenings to what is happening already.
I became interested in this stuff early. probably from being injured seriously as a youngster and then breaking my leg and having leg perthes disease.
I was fascinated when my brother said that when people see red objects, they do not see the same color, but call it the same color.
that was so wigged out (I was about 10 yrs old)
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5. What are your core values? How are these values expressed in your daily life? Do you feel that your values are similar or dissimilar to those of the majority?
I value wisdom and find it in unexpected corners from unexpected people.
this is great 'cause usually i think everyone is dumb like me, but then they come out with greatness.
I don't think other people are oriented to this but i think they would be if left unmolested - it's basic and exciting.
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