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 Marijuana, Inc., Inside America's Pot Industry - January 22nd on CNBC 
#9653655 - 01/21/09 04:22 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Marijuana, Inc.
Inside America's Pot
Industry
Premieres Thursday, January 22nd on CNBC
ABOUT THE SHOW
Host Trish Regan focuses primarily on Northern California, what she
calls "ground zero for marijuana."
Trish Regan interviews medical cultivators, tours Oaksterdam, surveys "Mexican grows" in the mountains
and, in the most impressive segment, profiles former smuggler Bruce
Perlowin.
Bruce Perlowin imported more then 100 tons of Colombian Gold
into San Francisco via fishing boats in the late '70s and early 80s.
"We saw ourselves as modern-day swashbucklers," Perlowin explains. He
made millions of dollar before getting nabbed by the FBI and spending
nine years in jail.
In the NoCal segments, Mendocino is characterized as the "wild wild
West," where more than 60% of the county's economy is marijuana-based.
Regan allows for plenty of voices here, from hardened growers to weary
cops to one family that decides to move way after a grow house next
door burns down.
During a copter ride over Lake County, Regan asks the pilot if they're
winning the war on marijuana. "No, we're not winning," he says blunty.
"The people that are winning are the people up here who are sustaining
a marijuana culture and that's basically what we have."
PREVIEW
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whattheheck
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Re: Marijuana, Inc., Inside America's Pot Industry - January 22nd on CNBC [Re: veggie]
#9653674 - 01/21/09 04:24 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'll be there. Thanks Veggie!!
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Re: Marijuana, Inc., Inside America's Pot Industry - January 22nd on CNBC [Re: veggie]
#9653793 - 01/21/09 04:39 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's times like this that make me wish I had cable. 
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Re: Marijuana, Inc., Inside America's Pot Industry - January 22nd on CNBC [Re: veggie]
#9654136 - 01/21/09 05:31 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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How could anyone be so serious about irradicating marijuana?
Honestly that officer needs to get a life, what a dumbfuck
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Re: Marijuana, Inc., Inside America's Pot Industry - January 22nd on CNBC [Re: ToiletDuk]
#9654144 - 01/21/09 05:33 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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i'd like to fuck that tresh..
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Re: Marijuana, Inc., Inside America's Pot Industry - January 22nd on CNBC [Re: hunter4321]
#9654850 - 01/21/09 07:23 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I only wish that shrooms get its own special
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Re: Marijuana, Inc., Inside America's Pot Industry - January 22nd on CNBC [Re: neopet nub]
#9655729 - 01/21/09 09:37 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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anybody want to record and torrent this thing?
Edited by Liquidkick (01/21/09 09:43 PM)
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Re: Marijuana, Inc., Inside America's Pot Industry - January 22nd on CNBC [Re: Liquidkick]
#9655808 - 01/21/09 09:50 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I am gonna watch that for sure!
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Re: Marijuana, Inc., Inside America's Pot Industry - January 22nd on CNBC [Re: E2DX07]
#9656535 - 01/22/09 12:04 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Someone is bound to record it, don't worry...it will make it onto the internets. I'm glad to see that the media is finally realizing that marijuana is her to stay, can provide economic benefits, and also that taxpayer dollars are almost literally burned in piles in efforts to quell marijuana use and to eradicate grow ops. Seriously, its not going to go away. Never has, never will. Hopefully this report won't come out terribly biased to favor illegality, since most news networks try and speak to what the public wants to hear, even if it isn't. Fact of the matter is, the cannabis movement is gaining ground and it will become legal sooner than later. There's just no way around it. There's hundreds of uses for the hemp plant, and if the united states doesn't legalize it, we won't be able to repair our financial crisis as easily. Hell, I think we should all do away with money and just live off the land as it is, its obvious to me that money only causes problems, social unrest and insurmountable debt. But hey, getting rid of money would make life a lot easier! And that would make too much sense!
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Re: Marijuana, Inc., Inside America's Pot Industry - January 22nd on CNBC [Re: Invisible_Woe]
#9657779 - 01/22/09 09:03 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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"it is an industry... filled with guns gangs and plenty of money"
The only people with guns are the pigs!
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Re: Marijuana, Inc., Inside America's Pot Industry - January 22nd on CNBC [Re: collinZzZz]
#9661464 - 01/22/09 06:58 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just finished watching it. I liked it, should have been longer though. It was informative and well documented, but I didnt like how they ended the show with the Drug Czar bad talking everything.
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Re: Marijuana, Inc., Inside America's Pot Industry - January 22nd on CNBC [Re: collinZzZz]
#9661518 - 01/22/09 07:03 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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The bitch doing the interviews was annoying as fuck. I guess that's the point though, to annoy people that aren't complete fucking retards. It's a shame no one said on that show "It's a harmless plant that has been used as a food and medicine for thousands of years."
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Re: Marijuana, Inc., Inside America's Pot Industry - January 22nd on CNBC [Re: collinZzZz]
#9661553 - 01/22/09 07:07 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Wow that really was a terrible show. They basically took the perspective of wow look at this problem, this guy brought in this much cannabis to the country, this guy grew this much pot in northern CA, these law enforcement officials hate pot with a passion that puts MLK's passion to shame, this guy started oaksterdam. NO really intelligent analysis of the real issues. Piss pour. I want to send a hateful message to the producer of that show. just terrible.
Anyone see the National Geographic doc about cannabis? It was a good one.
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Re: Marijuana, Inc., Inside America's Pot Industry - January 22nd on CNBC [Re: FurrowedBrow]
#9662130 - 01/22/09 08:40 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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There was a lot of bad parts of the show, most of it was crap. But the fact that it shows the size of the cannabis industry and culture is a good thing, even if they try to make it seem negative. Another good part was that one cop admitting that he doesn't think they're winning.
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Re: Marijuana, Inc., Inside America's Pot Industry - January 22nd on CNBC [Re: InTheRainySeason]
#9662199 - 01/22/09 08:53 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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If cops say they aren't winning, morons think we should give them more money so they can win. God forbid they think we should send a "surge". With the DEA's inflated and ever increasing budget, opium consumption has stayed the same since the 1900's and the DEA intercepts a whopping 1% of the drug market. Every time you see a seizure on TV, 99 other potentials seizures of equal size get into the unregulated market.
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Re: Marijuana, Inc., Inside America's Pot Industry - January 22nd on CNBC [Re: Green_T]
#9662833 - 01/22/09 11:08 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ahahaha...AT LEAST. The DEA has barely anything to show for itself when it comes to seizures. Their total seizures in one year does not make up for the $110 billion per year that they are budgeted. In fact, they probably seize *maybe* $1 billion worth of drugs...maybe.
660 tonnes of cocaine enter the U.S. each year
Then the DEA gets real happy when they bust a group of people for something like 30kg of coke, which, that kind of bust happens once a month for them, at best.
Out of the 532 tonnes of cocaine that was en-route to the United States in 2002, only 32 tonnes of it was seized at U.S. borders. Another small fraction was seized in-transit before it got to the United States. The result? 362 tonnes of available cocaine made it safely into U.S. black markets. ROFL
Another ROFL:
The DEA only is able to intercept anywhere between 600-650kg of Heroin out of the total 13 tonnes of heroin that makes it into the United States every year. Thats only intercepting 18%-20% of total heroin supplies.
And we're spending $110 billion per year on this war? Hell...we could get rid of all drugs if we were spending $700 billion a year on it! (EXTREMELY CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE...) I'd guesstimate the required taxpayer dollars to eradicate all drugs from the U.S. per year to be about $2.2 trillion...it's probably an exponential trend (money spent vs. total seizures). Does that sound like a good way to spend that money? That's more than the total cost of the Iraq War THUSFAR...but per YEAR. That would undoubtably mean the total deficit would increase by about $500 billion per year. Let's tack that onto the $40 trillion we'll already be in debt by 2040 due to Social Security alone. So that means, if we were to Up the Ante on the Drug War, by 2040, we would be in debt as a nation anywhere between $55-$160 trillion. That's a debt we will never be able to get out of, if we continue the path we're currently on.
I actually keep editing this post, sorry about that. But it just occurred to me that no matter HOW much money we spend on trying to eradicate drugs, we probably could never do it! Why? The drug cartels profit immensely by shipping their product to the United States. Any increased attempts to stop the importation of said product is just going to cause them to try even harder to get their drugs into our borders, so it's a fruitless effort. The more we fight, the more they're going to fight back.
Current U.S. Drug Policy = Epic Fail.
Seriously...trying to prevent illegal drugs from being shipped into countries is like trying to stop the flow of a hypothetically ruptured Hoover Dam by driving a Mazda Miata in front of it....or like trying to prevent people from going to the bathroom. It's just not possible, plausible, or worth it.
Perhaps the best analogy I can think of, is this:
Picture the DEA as a runner on a treadmill. The faster the treadmill moves = the more drugs that are shipped to the U.S.
The DEA has to run faster and faster as the treadmill increases in speed...until...the treadmill is now moving at a speed of 26mph+, and the runner cannot keep up, as his legs will not move fast enough. What happens? They fly off the treadmill, and the treadmill keeps moving.
They just can't keep up. It's been evident for the last 20, 25 years. I just researched lots of charts and tables online. Sure, the total weight of seizures for marijuana, cocaine, and heroin increased dramatically since the 1980's....but so has drug production. There's almost no net difference...therefore, the DEA hasn't made any progress, whatsoever.
Edited by tyler_0_durden (01/22/09 11:46 PM)
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Re: Marijuana, Inc., Inside America's Pot Industry - January 22nd on CNBC [Re: tyler_0_durden]
#9662907 - 01/22/09 11:28 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Great post man, really puts it into perspective. I've never quite heard it put that way before.
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Re: Marijuana, Inc., Inside America's Pot Industry - January 22nd on CNBC [Re: whattheheck]
#9664903 - 01/23/09 11:03 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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One of my favorite parts of this show was when Tresh was interviewing some guy from the DEA. She was basically accusing him of not solving this "problem" in NoCal. He responded by saying it was unfair to accuse the DEA. The citizens of that locality decided that they want it legal, so why should they interfere. They will only go against the big fish.
Very refreshing to hear that. "The people want pot legal, so let them have it". Now if only the rest of the Federal govt. had this attitude.
Also great to hear the pigs say they were losing the war on drugs at the end. Damn right you are. It's an unwinnable war, after all. Like a war against masterbation... ask the Catholic church how far they got in that war.
Overall, I think this was a pretty balanced piece. I was expecting a lot more biased reporting. Some more info on the actual danger of marijuana (with clinical research trials to back it up) would have been nice, but this is a a good start.
I forgot to mention, that ONE dispensary in Oakland, said they pay about $600,000 per year to the federal government and $300,000 per year to the state government in taxes. From ONE dispensary. Eh, fuck that though, I'd rather waste hundreds of billion per year trying to keep it illegal and keep ruthless Mexican drug cartels rich and powerful over a plant that is less harmful than alcohol and tobacco.
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Edited by pothead_bob (01/23/09 11:07 AM)
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Re: Marijuana, Inc., Inside America's Pot Industry - January 22nd on CNBC [Re: tyler_0_durden]
#9664989 - 01/23/09 11:25 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey Tyler, I want to calculate a statistic, i was wondering if you could help me...
How much does the government "pay" per ounce of marijuana/other drugs? Example, if they spend $800 for every oz they seize, that means they are paying $800 per oz.....with our tax dollars! Wouldnt it be cheaper if it were legal and we just bought it up ourselves?
Thats just a guess though...how much do they spend fighting marijuana, and how much do they seize? I'm guessing I can get weed for cheaper.
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