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 Grapefruit
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May i ask what your major epiphany was Whiskey Clone?
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"So man's insanity is heaven's sense; and wandering from all mortal reason, man comes at last to that celestial thought, which, to reason, is absurd and frantic; and weal or woe, feels then uncompromised, indifferent as his God." - Herman Melville
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 WhiskeyClone
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Registered: 06/25/01
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Loc: Longitudinal Center of Ca...
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It was a weird moment. I went down to a beach to sit quietly and watch the ocean and when I got there I found myself profoundly annoyed by a few little details... a piece of garbage in the water, some horse poo piles up and down the sand, and some bratty kids nearby. It almost seemed like these little annoyances were conspiring to ruin not just my walk to the beach, but that every moment in life was at risk of being tainted by imperfections like that.
I remember getting really worked up internally, very angry thoughts. Then suddenly I was startled by something my mind said, like somebody else had broken a precious silence to shout it right in my ear, except it was my own voice. I almost jumped, it was so rude and unexpected. And my babbling mind just switched right off in that instant and the rest of the moment all hit me at once, the sky, the water, the smell of the sand, the heat. I was blown away by the stunning detail in everything around me. Every detail of it was a masterpiece. I sat there for a while and my mind didn't utter another word the whole time. It was the most comfortable and happy I had ever been.
After that everything became a lot easier, nothing ever seemed as dire and urgent as before. The actions of other people bother me much less, I don't get self-conscious nearly as much, the world does not seem threatening to me anymore.
I learned that my thinking is really the only thing that can make me feel bad. I had known that that must be true for a long time, but this was the first time I ever really saw it happening.
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Welcome evermore to gods and men is the self-helping man. For him all doors are flung wide: him all tongues greet, all honors crown, all eyes follow with desire. Our love goes out to him and embraces him, because he did not need it.
~ R.W. Emerson, "Self-Reliance"
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Grapefruit
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Wow, that is great story! Hearing other people's epiphanies/wisdom is always so hollow untill you actually have that "aha!" moment for yourself, it's a brilliant feeling.
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"So man's insanity is heaven's sense; and wandering from all mortal reason, man comes at last to that celestial thought, which, to reason, is absurd and frantic; and weal or woe, feels then uncompromised, indifferent as his God." - Herman Melville
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Poid
deBunker
Registered: 02/04/08
Posts: 40,361
Loc: SF Bay Area 
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 Re: Who Are You? [Re: Veritas]
#9592280 - 01/11/09 09:40 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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1. What was your upbringing? Did your family have money? Were they religious? Did they discuss philosophy and/or spirituality with you?
I am a Mexican-American born here in the US, brought up and baptized by the Roman Catholic church, which some of my extended family still consider themselves a part of. I was raised in a pretty small town in the SF Bay Area, which is, and was much more so in the past, poverty stricken. But my father owned(s) his own electrical contracting business (a small business), and therefore my family was relatively well of, financially speaking
I wouldn't say that my parents were too religious, but, IMHO, they are spiritually powerful beings. I always talked about whatever came into my mind with my mother as I was growing up, but I don't remember philisophical/spiritual disucssions being something that was regular.
2. How was your educational experience? Did you enjoy school? Were you academically-oriented, or disinterested? How much of your education has found application in your daily life?
Although I grew up in a poor town, I had the blessed fortune of being able to attend some of the richest, highly-renowned schools in the state of California, which was one town over. I enjoyed, and still enjoy learning, but I never really liked school itself. Never had any stable freindships, never had a girlfriend, and basically never really liked the way people were.
I think that if I didn't go to the schools that I went to, I'd probably be in jail, or even worse, dead, because being raised in the town I was raised in, I wouldn't have lasted very long. Therefore, I think every second of my life can be thanked to my educational background, whether or not that is altogether a good thing....
I dropped out of high school within the first week of my senior year, in which I attended a continuation school because I failed my junior year due to, well, drug use.
I also attended community college, twice, but dropped out mid-quarter, both times.
3. What career interests you? Are you working in this career now? Do you feel satisfied in your work, or is it mainly a paycheck job? What work would you do if you did not have to earn money?
Honestly, I want to be the best of the best in whatever I do. I absolutely refuse to be under anybody in whichever career I choose, and, since I'm such a Huxley fanatic, being the "Resident World Controller" sounds most appealing to me! 
I don't work anywhere right now (I'm only almost 20) because I am having some troubles in my life, but I am getting shit together and I plan to continue my education and get some sort of job to supplement this. If I did not have to earn money, I would probably just lie around all day on a warm, comfy couch or bed. I would absolutely not do any sort of work if I didn't have to.
4. Has your philosophy/spirituality changed much over the years? Have you had epiphanies or rude awakenings which led you to reconsider your beliefs/values? At what age did you first become interested in philosophy/spirituality?
I think the way I go about or the general method I implement towards philosophizing hasn't changed much during my whole life, but I seem to go through different phases in which I mainly concentrate on specific aspects of philosophy/spirituality. I'd say that any rude awakenings or epiphanies I've had never shook my foundation, but they sure did make me feel foolish whenever they occured! I was Atheist for like two or three years (before believing in God "just incase"), but I think that that was the result of me reading into the Bible too literally.
I've always been interested in reality, philosophy, and spirituality.
5. What are your core values? How are these values expressed in your daily life? Do you feel that your values are similar or dissimilar to those of the majority?
My core values, or my core beliefs? I think that, maybe, at all of our cores, our values are the same because each of us experiences this life through a soul, mind, body and its senses, so therefore we equally sympathize and feel empathy towards one another, even though that nature seems to compel us to, at times, act wrongfully towards ourselves.
Was that too much or too little? 
Edited by Poid (01/18/09 10:24 PM)
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mushbaby
lovechild
Registered: 09/30/06
Posts: 2,594
Loc: in the woods
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Re: Who Are You? [Re: Poid]
#9601277 - 01/13/09 11:50 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I am the love child of a hippie. Was born in So California but have spent about 1/2 my life there and the other 1/2 in the rural Southeast. My mother eventually bought a bunch of land and moved a bus there and lived there for a few years w/o running water and elec. I stayed with her until she passed when she got cancer. I've seen both sides of living. From having very little and making do to having plenty and living well. The time of having very little taught me alot more than the time of plenty.
Most of my education was public school but due to some extreme circumstances I was put in a Christian private school for high school. The Bible was studied every day like a history class. While I've always believed in a higher power, my beliefs wouldn't necessarily be considered Christian. I feel Christians limit what is. I have never found a religion that fits me.
I help run a non-profit org. that's agriculturally based and love it. That's where I feel I "fit". As I'm someone more comfortable (and happier) alone in the woods or working with the land than surrounded by people.
My core values would be integrity, honesty (especially with oneself which is the hardest to keep) and just trying to be nice. I have many friends who've told me over and over again I am too nice, but I don't want to change.
Most of the observations I make on this forum are from personal experience rather than from a book I read. Although I do read alot. Or rather I used to.
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Maybe - and that's final.
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BrainChemistry
Captain Obvious
Registered: 06/19/07
Posts: 3,655
Loc: Mountains of N. America
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Re: Who Are You? [Re: Veritas]
#9602912 - 01/13/09 04:55 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Guess I've been around the P&S long enough, I'll let you all know some stuff about me. Although if you ever read my journal on this site you'd probably learn much more than you ever wanted to know haha.
1. What was your upbringing? Did your family have money? Were they religious? Did they discuss philosophy and/or spirituality with you?
Well I was raised in the Rocky Mountains. My parents owned 5 acres of forest land. Definitely spent a lot of time exploring nature as a kid. Climbing trees, walking in the forest, climbing mountains, etc.
I attended Sunday school until the age of about 8...and I remember I was always the kid questioning my teachers about their so called "facts". It didn't take me long to figure out religion was too good to be true.
My brother (6 years older than I) was very intelligent and I would often have philosophical talks with him, usually science related but occasional we would delve into religion. He considered himself agnostic, while I considered myself atheist for a long while.
2. How was your educational experience? Did you enjoy school? Were you academically-oriented, or disinterested? How much of your education has found application in your daily life?
I wouldn't say I enjoyed school, more simply I just accepted it. I knew I had to do it, and so I did it without complaining. School work was always very easy for me, and I never really had to push myself. Several of my english teachers said I should go to college for journalism, but my interest always laid in science. My graduating high school class (280 people) actually voted me "Most Likely To Be the Next Einstein".....I guess I was honored, haha.
3. What career interests you? Are you working in this career now? Do you feel satisfied in your work, or is it mainly a paycheck job? What work would you do if you did not have to earn money?
Well the term "career" doesn't interest me at all. I don't think that far ahead.
I'm in college earning an environ. engineering degree...but that is purely because I find it interesting and I think it offers a chance for me to make a difference in society. But I don't have any long term career plans, I live in the moment too much for that.
If money didn't exist, I would just travel around the world and help people build stuff.
4. Has your philosophy/spirituality changed much over the years? Have you had epiphanies or rude awakenings which led you to reconsider your beliefs/values? At what age did you first become interested in philosophy/spirituality?
Actually, yes. Dramatically! My sophomore year of college I used psychedelics for the first time (mushrooms), and it changed my world. All it took was one trip for me. I used to be quite outgoing...I would even have called myself an extrovert, but afterwards I became very quiet and reflective for quite a long time. I've taken those MTBI personality tests, and they say i'm very weakly an introvert.
At this point in my life, I questioned all of my spiritual beliefs. I began to furiously search for answers, mostly on the internet. That is, of course, when I found the Shroomery and this very P&S forum!! I brought many of my questions and thoughts here, and you have no idea how much you all have helped me. There was a time when I was so lost and confused that I had suicidal thoughts. Luckily those didn't stick around for long. 
My outlook on life was changed significantly. I was always interested in space, and I wanted to devote my life to helping mankind explore space. Well, now I see that there aren't really any answers in space....and its the ANSWERS, i realized, that I was truly looking for. Once I saw that no one had the answers I was looking for, I began looking inward instead of outward, and it has changed who I am. Its still changing who I am.
5. What are your core values? How are these values expressed in your daily life? Do you feel that your values are similar or dissimilar to those of the majority?
The things I value most are simple: Love, friendship, peace, happiness, humor, goodwill.
Maybe I sound like a hippie, but if theres one thing the hippies have right, is that peace & love should rule the Earth....not hate/control/fear/arrogance.
I feel like the "reality" of the world presses harder upon me than it does for most people. I think that was part of my awakening that happened when I took mushrooms for my first time. I realized all these harsh truths about the world that before I had been averting my eyes too. It took me over a year to really get over this I think....but even now, I believe I still "sense" the reality of the world more deeply than most people. I'm not always sure how to express the feelings I get, but they are definitely there.
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Word to your mom.
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Hobachi Ofunlo
Journeyman
Registered: 01/02/09
Posts: 15
Loc: Texas,U.S.,
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Re: Who Are You? [Re: Veritas]
#9606697 - 01/14/09 07:32 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I was born on a farm and raised inner city,family religion was Pentacostle and babtist,I went to the Church of Christ as a youngster and was a member or the Royal Rangers sort of a christian Boy scouts group,the written word of the bible was the law of the land,Most of the time my mom raised us,I have two brothers and a sister of which I am the oldest,as far as school went I had problems with math and grammer obviously and I beg your pardon,In the subjects that i liked i went beyond the college level at a very early age,wore out the school library on variouse subjects,we struggled as far as money went,not the best of things but they could have been a lot worse,I am pretty well read and have very good comprehension,as far as a career,I am a pretty good cook but my chosen profession is Native style Flute making and playing,as far as money goes its convenient when theres enough to pay the bills and keep my shop going but I could care less about riches,I like things as simple as possible,as far as my phylosophies go I still believe in The father The Son and The Holy Spirit but I dont believe in Hell Per say,I think we are loved unconditionally and this life is a gift and while god may advise us on a course of the lesser of two evils its up to us to decide to take it,we are all the sons and daughters of God and when we die we go home,all of us,the good the bad and the ugly,when you get there your life is laid before you and you get to see with the eyes of unconditional love what youve done,thats the only hell that i know,and for most it will be more than enough,thou shalt not kill does not mean thou shalt not kill unless,its gods gift to give and its gods gift to take away and in the words of the riddler if you kill them they wont learn nothin,I've always been interested in learning the truth,the problem with that is I dont believe everything I read or hear,it has to make sense to me on a personal level,I'm open to other opinions I'm just not open to manipulation or coersion,as far as my values,I am trying to mix shamanism and the trinity,I think you cAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT AS LONG AS IT DSOES NO HARM TO OTHERS,but harm can be far reaching,I still struggle with being outspoken when I should be listening with an open mind,when I was very young I asked god to grant me the power of wisdom,well let me tell you,be careful what you wish for,you kinda have to make every mistake there is and live through it,I'm still learning and listening and some day I hope to be wise,if I live long enough.
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Cameron
Too Many Words
Registered: 10/31/07
Posts: 4,437
Loc: Canada
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Re: Who Are You? [Re: Veritas]
#9614517 - 01/15/09 11:53 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm an observer, a listener, an analyst. I live most of my life in my head; most of my true beliefs go unsaid.
I think I'm clever, but I often lack common sense. Sometimes I wonder if I'm slightly autistic.
I try to foster awareness: the present moment is of utmost importance.
I'm a procrastinator -- a beginner of many projects but a completer of few.
I'm a rationalist. I need evidence to believe, and my analytical mind constantly asks, 'How can you know that?'
How I came to be this person is of little importance to me. My focus lies in how I can use what I've already got. Onward I go.
(Great thread.  )
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Lakefingers
Registered: 08/26/05
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Re: Who Are You? [Re: Veritas]
#9620018 - 01/16/09 08:21 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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How about guessing each others' bios instead?
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Veritas
Registered: 04/15/05
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Isn't that what many of us do already? 
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Lakefingers
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Re: Who Are You? *DELETED* [Re: Veritas]
#9620190 - 01/16/09 08:58 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Lion
Decadent Flower Magnate
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I saw a video of you playing violin a couple months ago...From my dim recall I estimate 26, dark brown hair, white, 6'0, 150 lbs.
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Lakefingers
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Re: Who Are You? [Re: Lion]
#9624786 - 01/17/09 01:37 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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ah,
that wasn't me, that was someone who played some tunes i've worked on
i'd be more jolly and less morose than him, i hope
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iCantSleep
I.... SHIT. Am not ego?
Registered: 12/26/08
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Loc: Trent, MI
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I am.....
EGO.
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"Nothing in the cry of cicadas suggests that they are about to die."
-Dogen
Click here for enlightenment.
And the most important message of all:
I LOVE YOU!
Péaçe!
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7734591202
It's all a fuckin joke.
Registered: 05/30/08
Posts: 724
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Hello and welcome to the shroomery.
I am not too sure of anything anymore.?.
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[quote]Tea said:
Dude how can you say such a thing. Ive literally read exact words about killing Americans within the Koran.......[/quote]
[quote]night_owl said: [/quote]
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Sventington
am what I am what I am what I am
Registered: 01/17/09
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1. What was your upbringing? Did your family have money? Were they religious? Did they discuss philosophy and/or spirituality with you?
Initially I grew up in rural Ontario, the son of a municipal I.T. worker and a fitter welder. We didnt have much money as my dad was an alcoholic, which led to my parents divorcing when I was between 10 and 12. They were not religious, my dad's never spoken a word regarding God to me, and I know that "technically" my mom is a Protestant, although never went to church.
2. How was your educational experience? Did you enjoy school? Were you academically-oriented, or disinterested? How much of your education has found application in your daily life?
Initially I did well in school. I enjoyed it well, I got great marks, and all seemed well. Then my parents divorced and we moved away into a town which was close by. I gradually lost interest in school, and ended up graduating with fairly mediocre marks. I'm currently enrolled in a Library Technician program.
3. What career interests you? Are you working in this career now? Do you feel satisfied in your work, or is it mainly a paycheck job? What work would you do if you did not have to earn money?
I have no real aspirations. I will try to work in a library upon graduation simply due to the fact I will have a diploma which will qualify me for that.
If I didn't have to work for money, I would learn a trade and eventually build my own house.
4. Has your philosophy/spirituality changed much over the years? Have you had epiphanies or rude awakenings which led you to reconsider your beliefs/values? At what age did you first become interested in philosophy/spirituality?
I had no real religious feelings for years. In grade 12 I dreamed I met God, and have been working through what that meant for some time. I guess now I simply believe that there is a feeling which one can feel which they will associate with God. I imagine this is the same feeling some have during different practices thought to bring on "Revelation". I'm not sure I buy the idea of there being an external deity. At best I'm more of a pandeist.
5. What are your core values? How are these values expressed in your daily life? Do you feel that your values are similar or dissimilar to those of the majority?
I'm not sure what my core values are. Try and understand others without judging them, I suppose. I would also like to have a family some day, and I plan on building a foundation which will allow that.
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Lakefingers
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"currently enrolled in a Library Technician program"
iow, you're going to be a librarian-?
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Sventington
am what I am what I am what I am
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I don't know what iow means, but no, I'm going to be a library technician. In order to become a librarian, one has to go to University and get a Masters in Library and Information Science, I believe. I think how that works is one gets a normal 4 year degree, then goes to "Library school" for an additional 2 years. I don't have the kind of money to be in school for that long.
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Lakefingers
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in other words
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The Chronic
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Re: Who Are You? *DELETED* [Re: Veritas]
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Edited by The Chronic (01/20/09 07:07 AM)
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