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Half-Gallon jars for WBS...
    #9587946 - 01/11/09 05:59 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Is it possible to use half gallon jars for WBS?  I was planning on picking up a pack of them and filling 1/2-3/4 the way up with WBS and using a Grain LC that I made from an extremely fast colonizing argentina jar that I had.  The argentina jar was 100% colonized in 5 days from a MS spore solution...never seen that happen before!

I guess my question is, if I prepare my WBS on the dry side and PC for maybe an extra 15-20 minutes, could I successfully use half gallon jars instead of quarts?


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Re: Half-Gallon jars for WBS... [Re: PsychOfMSE]
    #9587955 - 01/11/09 06:05 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, if you can use a quart you can use a half gallon. Thing is it should take longer to colonize and thus get a foot hold over contams. I'd stick with quart size jars, you save time and you don't put all your eggs in a basket.


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Re: Half-Gallon jars for WBS... [Re: Knifeplay]
    #9587965 - 01/11/09 06:19 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Well time isn't really a big deal for me right now.  I've got enough spawn colonizing/done colonizing to fill up 7 or 8 monotubs, I'd like to use some half gallon jars just to stick on the top shelf and forget about it for a while.

If my argentina jars (they were pints) got done in 5 days, I'm willing to wait a couple weeks for a half gallon to be done.  Basically I'm wanting to have a stock of spawn that's ready to go into a monotub at any time.

I'll go ahead and try it, if it doesn't work, I'm out 10-15 bucks.  I've got a ridiculous amount of Grain LC & Spore solution sitting in the fridge just waiting to be used (750ml worth).


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Re: Half-Gallon jars for WBS... [Re: PsychOfMSE]
    #9587973 - 01/11/09 06:23 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Like I said it should work.


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Re: Half-Gallon jars for WBS... [Re: Knifeplay]
    #9587976 - 01/11/09 06:25 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Word, thanks for the encouragement man. 

I'll post pics when I cultivate a nice big batch of trich :smile:


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Re: Half-Gallon jars for WBS... [Re: PsychOfMSE]
    #9587982 - 01/11/09 06:26 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Oh man, trich is always fun to grow. It taste so0o0o0o0o0o good.(I'm lying I wouldn't know)


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Re: Half-Gallon jars for WBS... [Re: Knifeplay]
    #9588120 - 01/11/09 07:48 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Any size jars will do, just use more solution/lc/g2g to make up for the extra size.


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Re: Half-Gallon jars for WBS... [Re: HybridprX]
    #9588131 - 01/11/09 07:58 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

That's what I thought.

I did some searching and saw that RR said that half gallon jars go anerobic in the centers a lot easier than smaller jars.

I figured with a healthy dose of LC (say 8-10ccs?) it should colonize fast enough to not stall out.

Shaking at 30-40% would also help with that I believe.  I just can't believe how fast the last batch of pints I knocked up colonized.  I saw growth in 48 hours and they were completely done in 5 days.  I've never seen that from a MS inoculation.

I'm thinkin if I make a grain LC from my fastest colonizing MS jar it should be a great way to jump start some half gallons.


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Re: Half-Gallon jars for WBS... [Re: PsychOfMSE]
    #9588629 - 01/11/09 10:42 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I see you found the post about larger jars going anaerobic in the centers.  If you do choose to use them, place them at a 45 degree angle, which helps the gasses escape, and shake more often.  My experience is that they're no faster than quart jars, and in fact slower.  I have five cases of half gallon jars sitting in the garage.  I'll probably use them for nails, screws, etc. some day.
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Re: Half-Gallon jars for WBS... [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #9588713 - 01/11/09 11:01 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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I see you found the post about larger jars going anaerobic in the centers.  If you do choose to use them, place them at a 45 degree angle, which helps the gasses escape, and shake more often.  My experience is that they're no faster than quart jars, and in fact slower.  I have five cases of half gallon jars sitting in the garage.  I'll probably use them for nails, screws, etc. some day.
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Well are there any drawbacks to the slower colonizing speed other than time?  If proper sterile procedure is used I shouldn't really see a spike of contamination due to my jars taking an extra week to colonize, should I?

Time isn't really an issue, like I said, I've got more spawn right now than I really know what to do with. 

And yes, if I have a question that needs to be answered I use the search function, enter my question's keywords in, and then enter your name in the user field.  It hasn't failed me yet.

Thanks guys! :thumbup:


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