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#9285870 - 11/21/08 02:36 PM (1 year, 7 hours ago) |
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Welcome to the Shroomery message board.
First of all I'd like to welcome you to the interesting and rewarding world of mushroom cultivation and I hope that all the other members can help you out in this new experience.
I'd like to give you a few pointers on the main site in case you haven't explored it properly.
From the mushroom cultivation section you can access many written documents explaining all the things you will have to do to grow many kinds of mushrooms, including edibles and Psilocybe Cubensis. Please bear in mind that some of these teks (as we call them) can be outdated, so make sure you read a couple of them explaining the same procedure you want to do and check that there are no inconsistencies. If there are, come strait to the mushroom cultivation forum and ask.
If there are words you don't understand feel free to check out the Shroomery glossary for the definitions of those words.
Now back to the forum. There are few rules in the Mushroom Cultivation forum, but breaking those rules might mean your thread gets locked and we wouldn't want that would we.
The main ones to keep in mind are:
- No asking for spore trades. There is a special forum for this called the Marketplace and if you stick around for 90 days and make at least 50 posts you will have access to it.
- Absolutely no asking for spores if you live in one of the US states where spores are illegal. You might even get banned for doing this.
- No posting of non-sponsor links of mushroom related stuff. You can mention non sponsor products, even ask about them, but no linking. A list of shroomery sponsors can be found here.
The only other thing you need to keep in mind is that you should try and write your questions clearly, and make sure the subject line explains what your post is about or you won't get many answers.
One last, but VERY IMPORTANT item. Every question you may have has probably been asked about 5 times in the last week and 100 times in the last month. There is a very useful search engine which will save you the hassle of having to type up a question yourself and get you an answer much faster.
In the next post I am going to overview the main cultivation procedures and try and help you make up your mind on which way you should go to grow.
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 Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: Nibin]
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So, you want to grow mushroom. But where do you start?
There are two ways to go about growing and they depend on one thing only: Do you own a pressure cooker?
Pros and cons of both methods.
Method 1
Pros:
- Very easy to do
- Can be done with or without a pressure cooker
- Produces enough shrooms for you and your friends
- Relatively simple setup and does not require expensive materials
Cons:
- You won't get huge yields
- Requires vermiculite which can be hard to find in some areas
Method 2
Pros:
- Produces higher yields
- Materials to be used are available anywhere
Cons:
- Requires a pressure cooker
- Can be more expensive if you don't already own a pressure cooker but is as cheap as method 1, if not cheaper, if you own one already
- Is a little more complex so there is more things to go wrong if you are not careful
In both cases the most important rule is to FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS EXACTLY. Do not try and make modifications until you have more experience, as that increases the risk of something going wrong dramatically. If you have to make changes because of available material, make sure you ask on the forum before you do so, just to check if it can be done, and how it should be done.
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: Nibin]
#9285876 - 11/21/08 02:37 PM (1 year, 7 hours ago) |
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METHOD 1 THE PF TEK The PF tek is a system of growing mushrooms that has been around for a few decades and was developed by Psylocybe Fanaticus, hence the name. You will prepare jars full of vermiculite and brown rice flour on which the mushroom will grow. The steps are as follows: 1. Prepare your jars and inoculate(inject spores) them 2. Wait for colonization 3. Place in a fruiting chamber 4: Harvest and enjoy The procedure is very well explained here and in other articles in the basic cultivation guides section of the site and can also be seen as a video here so I won't explain how it is done, just give you general tips for each step of the procedure. Just read the above mentioned articles first so you will know what we are talking about.
1 PREPARING JARSMake sure you don't overdo the amount of water you put in the jars. The proportions are 2 parts of vermiculite 1 part of brown rice flour and 1 part of water, but I recommend you add just a little less water to avoid over wetting your mix, as it will slow everything down considerably and maybe even stop growth. FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS EXACTLY. Procedure is critical here. 2 COLONIZATIONWhile you will read about incubators and incubation in many places for your jars, this is not at all necessary if your house is in a normal temperature range (above 65F) Incubators add cost to your setup and can increase the contamination rate, as the higher temperatures also increase the growth of contaminants that might not have grown if you hadn't incubated. If you really want to incubate do not have temperatures above 80F. The values given in many teks of 86F are outdated and optimum growth is attained at around 80F. This is because the jars produce a little heat which brings the temperature up to the 82-3F optimum. BE PATIENT. While growth can be seen after a few days sometimes, it can take a week or more to see anything. 3 FRUITING CHAMBERA new development since the original PF Tek is the Shotgun terrarium. It is called this because it has lots of holes so it looks like someone fired a 12 gauge shotgun at it  Here are instructions on how to make one. For good pinning (pins are baby mushrooms) you need the correct pinning triggers that tell your cakes to start producing mushrooms. The most important ones in order of importance are - Full colonization. Once the mycelium (that is the white stuff that produces the shrooms) has fully colonized the cake it will know it is time to fruit. - High humidity. It has to be over 95%, ideally 99% for PF cakes - Fresh Air Exchange A.K.A FAE. Mushrooms need lots of fresh air. You need as much as you can without reducing the air humidity - Light. Mushrooms grow towards light. A few hours is enough and they need some dark period too. Most people go for a 12h light 12h dark regime. Indirect sunlight is best but close second is a CFL (compact fluorescent light/energy saving bulb) in the daylight(also known as white light or around 6000K) range. Do not use a normal light-bulb as they produce the wrong kind of light and produce way too much heat. DUNK AND ROLL: This is another addition to the standard PF tek. Basically you dunk your cakes in water for 12 to 24 hours (to replace water lost during colonization) and then roll them in DRY vermiculite, place them in the fruiting chamber and mist them well (the verm acts as a water reservoir). A search will give you more info on this procedure. One last tip. I recommend you place your cakes close together in the fruiting chamber. That way the humidity coming off them creates an even better micro-climate for fruit growth. Here is what it would look like  This post explains the procedure plus another very interesting one.
4 HARVESTINGPick fruits just before or just after the cap opens and the veil at the bottom of the cap tears to avoid spores falling everywhere and making a mess of your fruiting chamber Make sure you learn to make spore prints as you will then become self sufficient and not have to buy spores each time. Also, if you do decide to make spore prints please consider donating some to the Free Spore Ring as they try and make spore prints available to everyone for free and rely on donations.
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: Nibin]
#9285878 - 11/21/08 02:37 PM (1 year, 7 hours ago) |
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Method 2 Grains and Bulk GrowingIn this way of growing you first have to prepare grains with a pressure cooker as your growing medium and then decide if you fruit them directly or use them to make a bulk grow The procedure is as follows 1. Prepare Grain and inoculate 2. Colonize 3. Prepare and spawn to your bulk substrate 4. Colonize 5. Case 6. Fruit Basically you use your colonized grains as what is called spawn to introduce mushroom mycelium into a substrate that can be prepared easily in big quantities (hence the bulk part) by pasteurization not sterilization. This allows you to grow much larger amounts of mushrooms with not much more extra effort. Examples of bulk substrates are straw, horse manure or coco coir. While spawn is normally colonized grain, you can actually also use broken up PF tek cakes, and if you have been patient enough to read all of this you have just discovered the way to grow in bulk without using a pressure cooker (as the pressure cooker is required to prepare the grains, not the bulk substrates) As before, there are many teks written about how to do these procedures and I will just give you a few tips on each step. 1. Prepare grainsYou can use different kinds of grain for this, but favourites are Rye, Wild Bird Seed and Corn. Here you can find instructions on how to prepare the grains. One of my favourites which isn't in the section above is the way RR prepares his rye Quote:
My rye tek. I haven't posted this here in awhile.
Measure out your organic rye berries from a health food store, 1 cup for each quart jar you intend to make. Place them in a large pot. Rinse the heck out of them. Fill the pot with hot tap water, shake and swirl it around and pour it out. Do this three or four times until the water you pour out is clear. You'll be able to see when you have nice clean water to pour off instead of water filled with chaff and dirt. You want to now cover the rye berries with three times as much water as you have rye. Use half coffee(or less) and half plain water. In other words, if you have two inches of rye in the bottom of your pan, you should have six inches of water/coffee above that, for a total of 8 inches. Add one tablespoon of gypsum to the water and stir well. Leave this to sit for 12 to 24 hours.
After the soak, add water to nearly fill the kettle up, but leave room at the top for it to boil. Stir well and set the pot on the stove. Bring to a boil. Boil for ten minutes, then, WHILE BOILING, drain the contents through a very large colander. (spaghetti strainer) If you're making a large batch, you may need more than one colander. Tip the colander side to side to get the rye to drain as much of the water as you can. Then, shake the colander in order to 'toss' the grain. This will cause a lot of steam to rise from your rye. Do this a time or two, then let it sit for five minutes, then repeat. When all the moisture that will drip or evaporate from your rye has already done so, load your jars. The rye should look and feel dry to the touch when you load the jars. All the moisture you need is inside the grain. Fill jars no more than 2/3 full if they are to receive grain to grain transfers, or no more than 3/4 full if they are to be inoculated by spore syringe. Use a lid with a synthetic filter disk, polyfill, tyvek or similar. Cover with foil and PC the jars for at least 90 minutes at 15lbs. When the jars are cool, they're ready to inoculate.
2. Colonize the grain
Do not shake your grains just after injecting spores, wait until around 1/3 of the jar is covered in mycelium before shaking it.
Once you have colonized grain you can skip the next step and just case it and fruit it directly if you want to, but by using it as spawn you will increase your amount of substrate dramatically. Using the recommended 1:4 ratio will mean that 1 pint of grain spawn will become 5 pints of colonized bulk substrate (1 pint grain + 4 pints substrate) with just an additional weeks wait.
3. Preparing Bulk Substrate and Spawning
Here is the info on how to prepare different bulk substrates. There is a lot more info doing a quick search using the search engine.
IMPORTANT. Bulk substrates are PASTEURIZED not sterilized, as sterilization increases contamination rate dramatically.
A NOTE ON COIR: Coco Coir is processed coconut husk also used for plants. It was thought until a few years ago that is contained no nutrients and was a good casing (next section) material. Now we know that it actually does contain nutrients and is a good bulk substrate. So if you see any casing instructions using coir, try and avoid them.
I recommend you do not leave a layer of spawn on the top of the bulk substrate once you mix it all as if it dries out it can become a source of contamination.
4. Colonize bulk substrateHere you will have to choose what setup you decide to go with. The most common are trays which go into a normal fruiting chamber or into a Martha (plastic greenhouse) or a setup called a monotub. A quick search should give you loads of info on these setups. Another good tip is to line the bottom of your container with a sheet of black plastic from a cut up rubbish/trash bag. This helps prevent side and bottom pinning as it sticks to the substrate as it shrinks. 5. CasingTo case or not to case, that is the questionSome substrates such as horse manure and coir will fruit well uncased, but all bulk substrates will benefit from a casing layer. Here is the info on how to prepare a casing layer. Another fantastic thread on casing is Hyphae's Pinning Strategy
6. FruitingDepending on your setup you will have different kinds of fruiting chamber. One important thing to remember is that pinning triggers as mentioned in the previous post that covers the PF tek still apply, but humidity should be around 90%.
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: Nibin]
#9285881 - 11/21/08 02:37 PM (1 year, 7 hours ago) |
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All that is left is for me to wish you good luck with your endeavors and once again welcome you to this amazing community.
I hope this has been a help to you.
GOOD GROWING
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: Nibin]
#9285894 - 11/21/08 02:40 PM (1 year, 7 hours ago) |
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Well, that took me a couple of hours to type up, but I had wanted to write up something like this for a long time.
All suggestions are more than welcome.
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: Nibin]
#9285910 - 11/21/08 02:43 PM (1 year, 7 hours ago) |
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Nice job. 
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: J3illy]
#9285935 - 11/21/08 02:47 PM (1 year, 7 hours ago) |
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Hella sweet. This should definitely be a sticky thread, and many noobies can be referred to this.
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: Nibin]
#9285962 - 11/21/08 02:51 PM (1 year, 7 hours ago) |
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Awesome. This is just what I've been looking for. Thanks!
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: IncredibleEdible]
#9285972 - 11/21/08 02:53 PM (1 year, 7 hours ago) |
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Awesome. This is just what I've been looking for. Thanks!
Glad to help. It is for newcomers like you that this was typed up.
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: Nibin]
#9286121 - 11/21/08 03:25 PM (1 year, 6 hours ago) |
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Nibin!!!!!!!!!!! That was absolutely amazing my friend! 5 for you. I'm going to add that to my sig. Hell, I think that everyone should add that to their sig! LOL!
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: Nibin]
#9286124 - 11/21/08 03:25 PM (1 year, 6 hours ago) |
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Its nice to have that many links for info in one place. I will be referring to this post often. Thanks!
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: schizophrenic]
#9286190 - 11/21/08 03:37 PM (1 year, 6 hours ago) |
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truely awsome Nibin! this is really new user friendly. if you can bake a cake, you have no excuse for asking questions or not having your first success following Nibin's nifty compilation of valuable information here! 
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: seven]
#9286313 - 11/21/08 03:57 PM (1 year, 6 hours ago) |
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Nice thread. Stickied.
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: RogerRabbit]
#9286331 - 11/21/08 03:59 PM (1 year, 6 hours ago) |
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Wow, my first sticky 
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: Nibin]
#9287203 - 11/21/08 06:03 PM (1 year, 4 hours ago) |
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Awesome thread Nibin.
If I havent rated you yet I will now.
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: creekfreek]
#9288008 - 11/21/08 08:09 PM (1 year, 2 hours ago) |
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Thanks for the great writeup Nibin.
Informative and very helpful for a noob like myself
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: Tortion]
#9288049 - 11/21/08 08:18 PM (1 year, 2 hours ago) |
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Fuckin A+. Exactyly what we need. The next step then would be making this post a manditory read for new members.
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Roger Rabbit and Road Kill cultivation videos Starting out-This site will answer a lot of questions, great pf tek video guide
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: veda_sticks]
#9288064 - 11/21/08 08:20 PM (1 year, 1 hour ago) |
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Nice. This should steer a lot of people in the right direction.
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: veda_sticks]
#9288067 - 11/21/08 08:20 PM (1 year, 1 hour ago) |
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 nice thread
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 Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: Nibin]
#9288171 - 11/21/08 08:40 PM (1 year, 1 hour ago) |
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I was just going to log back in and send a PM to RR -- using my status as an unknown to elaborate how useful this post is and asking for it to be made sticky. Glad to see the wisdom of the board has once again beaten me to the punch!! (I'll never make 50 posts when all my questions are already asked and answered!)
I've been reading these boards for a month and learned a lot from everyone, but having this logical presentation -- especially the descriptions of the two methods -- really brings home.
And I'll second the notions that it be required reading. (Perhaps a link to it in the Welcome message when joining the forums??)
Thanks to all, but especially the Trusted Guys!!
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: IncredibleEdible]
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Going to sig. +5
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: noobieshroomie]
#9290374 - 11/22/08 05:47 AM (11 months, 23 days ago) |
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Nice Job Nibin.
I must say this is
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: Joker003]
#9290414 - 11/22/08 06:25 AM (11 months, 23 days ago) |
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I must say the hardest of all was avoiding using words and abbreviations that for me are second nature.
I started typing it up using BRF, FAE, mycelium, pins, etc and realized it would be really hard to understand for a complete newcomer, so I had to rewrite it avoiding as many technical terms as I could.
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: Nibin]
#9290442 - 11/22/08 06:49 AM (11 months, 23 days ago) |
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I must say the hardest of all was avoiding using words and abbreviations that for me are second nature.
I started typing it up using BRF, FAE, mycelium, pins, etc and realized it would be really hard to understand for a complete newcomer, so I had to rewrite it avoiding as many technical terms as I could.
that would give the fingers a little workout! congrats on this being sticky'd, im proud for you bro. nice work!
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: seven]
#9291520 - 11/22/08 01:06 PM (11 months, 23 days ago) |
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excellent work, a must read....
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: niall_b73]
#9293129 - 11/22/08 05:35 PM (11 months, 23 days ago) |
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awesome thread nibin. every newcomer has to read this.
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: doze]
#9296361 - 11/23/08 08:49 AM (11 months, 22 days ago) |
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Thanks a million nibin!! Especially the glossary of terms.
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: noobieshroomie]
#9311063 - 11/25/08 02:10 PM (11 months, 20 days ago) |
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thanks Nibin for the posting and links. i had already downloaded/and/or printed some of the teks earlier when i first arrived. i tend to be nonlinear in my searches, but guidance from the pros is without a doubt the most beneficial way to go. i like simple.
my knowledge has already increased greatly since my first arrival and i continually refer people to this site and share what i have learned. thanks to everyone who has made this site what it is by creating it and by donation of teks, time, and other writings.
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: houdinihar]
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thanks Nibin for the posting and links. i had already downloaded/and/or printed some of the teks earlier when i first arrived. i tend to be nonlinear in my searches, but guidance from the pros is without a doubt the most beneficial way to go. i like simple.
my knowledge has already increased greatly since my first arrival and i continually refer people to this site and share what i have learned. thanks to everyone who has made this site what it is by creating it and by donation of teks, time, and other writings.
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it is a nice growing community with very knowledgable teachers(LIKE NIBIN) willing to go extra miles to help someone who first tries to research this site themselfs. If you are new and reading this: to dodge verbal bullets and gain respect here, use\read\search this site to find your basic answers before asking a question that gets asked a million times a year. chances are a two second search of posts will give you the answers. i would have to say, this post has 99 percent of the answers anyone new could ever ask! -good luck and Nibin : 
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: noobieshroomie]
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is it possible to inoculate the spores directly into the substrate...lets say a mixture of steer manure and straw and letting it colonize and fruit, and skip the cake method?
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: emik1]
#9322343 - 11/27/08 02:00 PM (11 months, 18 days ago) |
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read the bulk neglect tek
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: JayBrasco]
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is it possible to inoculate the spores directly into the substrate...lets say a mixture of steer manure and straw and letting it colonize and fruit, and skip the cake method?
It will work but success rate is very low unless you use bags and inject with liquid culture.
Here is how you should procede more or less
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: Nibin]
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Yeah but with spores it's not going to work.
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: dead]
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Yeah but with spores it's not going to work.
It has been known to but the failure rate is extremely high.
There are those manure bags with a grain pocket which work well with spores.
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: Nibin]
#9328958 - 11/28/08 07:59 PM (11 months, 17 days ago) |
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oh ok I was just curious. thanks guys
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#9329566 - 11/28/08 10:15 PM (11 months, 17 days ago) |
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as a noob my self i can not only say this was an easy read but it has a lot of info that i haven't read before and ive been lurking on here for months
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: the walrus]
#9346326 - 12/01/08 06:47 PM (11 months, 14 days ago) |
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I watched a video a few minutes ago that explained how rye seed can be used to grow bulk amounts. how long after colonization can someone use rye seed substrate to inoculate more jars?
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: Nibin]
#9349808 - 12/02/08 08:00 AM (11 months, 13 days ago) |
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Nice! Thanks Nibin
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: Nibin]
#9370600 - 12/05/08 05:20 AM (11 months, 10 days ago) |
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This has been very helpful - two thumbs up!
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: noobieshroomie]
#9391309 - 12/08/08 10:37 AM (11 months, 7 days ago) |
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Hi im new to the site and wanted to say I appreciate all that you do.
I have recently started with cakes and inoculated them with the Hawaian psilocyben cubensis from Spores101 and it is now day 7 and i have no signs of mycelium. The temp is right and they are getting no light am i doing something wrong?
Any help would greatly be appreciated/
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: shroomwrestler]
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Yeah, spores101 sucks. Next time order from a sponsor.
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Hi im new to the site and wanted to say I appreciate all that you do.
I have recently started with cakes and inoculated them with the Hawaian psilocyben cubensis from Spores101 and it is now day 7 and i have no signs of mycelium. The temp is right and they are getting no light am i doing something wrong?
Any help would greatly be appreciated/
Start a thread explaining what you did exactly and let's see if we can see if it was your fault or the syringes.
Also, sometimes growth appears after a week.
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: Nibin]
#9400889 - 12/09/08 04:26 PM (11 months, 6 days ago) |
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hey everyone I'm brand new at this!! and excited!! my first myco bag is at 40% colonized mycelium and using the pf-tek I just inoculated 3 jars=no mycelium yet but still early, the myco bag has ps. panama and 1 jar has ps. panama and the other to jars have ps.eq. so I've heard interesting things about both will keep on posting if anyone's interested in my wrk. sounds like u all have it going on!!! Thanks
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: electrics]
#9402626 - 12/09/08 09:08 PM (11 months, 6 days ago) |
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cool good luck.
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: doze]
#9402636 - 12/09/08 09:09 PM (11 months, 6 days ago) |
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Great to hear, best of luck..
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: noobieshroomie]
#9421599 - 12/12/08 10:41 PM (11 months, 2 days ago) |
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would it work to perform a grain to grain transfer with different grains. say innoculating rye grain with popcorn?
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: JayBrasco]
#9421808 - 12/12/08 11:24 PM (11 months, 2 days ago) |
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would it work to perform a grain to grain transfer with different grains. say innoculating rye grain with popcorn?
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: Damion5050]
#9430502 - 12/14/08 02:09 PM (11 months, 1 day ago) |
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Hey guys, I got a question! Well I made my girl go to the Asian store and get some more agar agar, and she got me the right stuff, but she also came home with some coconut agar agar. Now I am pretty sure it will work cause I still have to add everything, but was curious if it has any benefits or any drawbacks?? I am gonna give it try no matter what cause I love trying out new shit (plus the bars are bright red!! Red agar!!) Just want to know if there is any other input?!?! Also wanted to have this in my threads!! Thanks everybody!!! 
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: noobieshroomie]
#9431602 - 12/14/08 05:22 PM (11 months, 1 day ago) |
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Thanks everyone good solid info likeit!!!;)
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: electrics]
#9448528 - 12/17/08 04:52 AM (10 months, 29 days ago) |
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Seeing how a lot of people have been having this  problem...
DO NOT use aerosols or flammable liquids such as rubbing alcohol or Lysol in a glovebox or other enclosed container in the presence of a flame. It could possibly BLOW UP and cause you or your house to catch fire!
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: Dragonaut]
#9453786 - 12/18/08 12:38 AM (10 months, 28 days ago) |
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Great thread!
Wish it was there when I started... I would have saved lots of time and money
Keep up the good work Nibin
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: noobieshroomie]
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im am sorry if this has been posted but i have all my supplies except the spores and the thing that go's on the jar (im getting the spores soon)(im using popcorn as my grain) but i dont understand what to use for the "filter" that goes on the jar in the pressure cooker i am a noob (iv done the whole cake this with succese but can any one plzzz tell e wat to use on top of my jar inbetween the corn and the tinfoul!!!! my email is goget69@hotmail.com plzzzz help
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: goget69]
#9454252 - 12/18/08 03:04 AM (10 months, 28 days ago) |
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tyvek or polyfill, UTFSE
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: Dragonaut]
#9468409 - 12/20/08 05:38 PM (10 months, 26 days ago) |
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I used coffee filters...idk if thats the best material to use. but it was free.
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: JayBrasco]
#9468427 - 12/20/08 05:41 PM (10 months, 26 days ago) |
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Coffee filters are the absolutely worst material. They do not filter out contaminant spores, they are made for straining coffee...
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: dead]
#9468450 - 12/20/08 05:45 PM (10 months, 26 days ago) |
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well I placed aluminum foil over them. idk if that helped. I did have contam problems with 3 jars, but that was because I didnt have a pc to sterilize my grain.
I guess polyfill is the better way to go
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: JayBrasco]
#9468470 - 12/20/08 05:48 PM (10 months, 26 days ago) |
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This is how I make my lid filters -> clickety
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: dead]
#9468500 - 12/20/08 05:54 PM (10 months, 26 days ago) |
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thats genius! fuckin brilliant.
A good way to recycle spore syringes.
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: JayBrasco]
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Help!! I've got some jars that are producing shrooms and aren't fully colonized yet, what do I do? I'm afraid to birth them since the other times I've done that, they've gotten infected.
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: JeffP170]
#9513553 - 12/29/08 05:37 PM (10 months, 17 days ago) |
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Birth them and cut off any uncolonized portions. If they're already fruiting, the myc probably won't colonize the remaining substrate anyway.
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: FooMan]
#9514678 - 12/29/08 08:54 PM (10 months, 17 days ago) |
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yea. same thing happened to me. just case it or bulk it.
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 Sterile procedure [Re: Nibin]
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Hi all i have been watching RR's video and am about to inoculate some jars but i notices that they said to PC your distilled water before using it to make syringes how can i do this without a PC? i am doing the BRF cake method by the way if you needed to know.
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Re: Sterile procedure [Re: SLiCeR]
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Either get sterile water from a pharmacy or just boil tap water.
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Re: Sterile procedure [Re: dead]
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is that sterile water worth much or not? or is it just as good to get some distilled water and boil it?
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Re: Sterile procedure [Re: SLiCeR]
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Just boil some tap water.
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Re: Sterile procedure [Re: dead]
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so tap water is all good to use no need to boil distilled? why dont they just tell ya that in the vid lol cheers mate
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Re: Sterile procedure [Re: SLiCeR]
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Let it boil for 20 minutes.
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Re: Sterile procedure [Re: dead]
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ok thanks again my friend
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Re: Sterile procedure [Re: SLiCeR]
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lol i bought distilled water anyway coz i seen it ha ha should i still boil it though?
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lol i bought distilled water anyway coz i seen it ha ha should i still boil it though?
How about you open a thread for this convo instead of cluttering up this one?
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#9587671 - 01/11/09 03:24 AM (10 months, 4 days ago) |
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this is great stuff man!!! cheers!
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: Nibin]
#9595623 - 01/12/09 03:36 PM (10 months, 3 days ago) |
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why don't my spores grow using the pf tek? using p.azurescens syringe?my cubensis no problem .do they need something different?
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: charleyfish]
#9596465 - 01/12/09 05:29 PM (10 months, 3 days ago) |
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PF-Tek is for cubensis. Azures need a wood-based substrate. Always search for an answer first before starting a thread.
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: noobieshroomie]
#9664463 - 01/23/09 10:27 AM (9 months, 23 days ago) |
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Nice...I'm going with the PF tek with the perlite Terrarium.
I've seen some recomend a closed container and fanning, while others have holes drilled.
Does it matter?
Maybe someone who's tried both coud give me their opinion.
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A fruiting chamber must be able to provide 3 things: correct temperature, sufficient fresh air exchange and correct relative humidity. The last two are most important. The best options IMO are either a Shotgun FC or a Poor man's pod.
The shotgun FC has wet perlite on bottom and holes drilled on all sides, even on the bottom, so the airflow through the bottom will wick moisture in the air inside the FC.
Poor man's pod has water & geolite or some other brand of LECA at the bottom, and an airstone under the water connected by a hose to an aquarium air pump. This will blow air constantly into the FC through water, thus the air that enters will be at perfect humidity.
In both cases you get better results by also fanning & misting the FC regularly.
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: dead]
#9670232 - 01/24/09 10:01 AM (9 months, 22 days ago) |
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Thanks allot,
I've got another question, I've heard that when incubating you don't want the temperature to fluctuate, I was gonna use a heater, plugged into a thermometer that turns it on when temps drop below like 80.
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: SethTheGreat]
#9670238 - 01/24/09 10:03 AM (9 months, 22 days ago) |
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No. If your room temperature is at least 70F, you don't need an incubator at all. If your room temperature is colder, set your incubator at 75 degrees.
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: noobieshroomie]
#9672576 - 01/24/09 06:42 PM (9 months, 22 days ago) |
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thank you that was very informative
i think that i will try both methods and pray one works
i was hoping to find some info on sanitary methods to prevent contam. but i can probably find that elsewhere....
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: hisheater]
#9672629 - 01/24/09 06:56 PM (9 months, 22 days ago) |
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sanitary methods to prevent contam.
Build a glovebox. That's the best sanitary method you can do short of constructing or buying a laminar flowhood.
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: dead]
#9675722 - 01/25/09 11:25 AM (9 months, 21 days ago) |
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GOT A q, GROWING SOME CREEPERS AND ITS BEEN BOUT 20 DAYS AND MY JARS ARE COLONIZED CEPT FOR PORTING OF THE BOTTOM AND THERE HAS BEEN NO MORE NOTICABLE GROWTH OVER THE PAST 4 DAYS( UPSIDE DOWN) SO DO I JUST CUT IT AND VERM THE CUT PORTION OR WAIT LONGER?
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: noobieshroomie]
#9677068 - 01/25/09 03:13 PM (9 months, 21 days ago) |
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Awesome thread, very handy
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: TeeTwoKay]
#9716309 - 02/01/09 09:21 AM (9 months, 14 days ago) |
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I must admit, I had never read this until now. Good work! Here may be a couple things you could add http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/9715789/an/0/page/0
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: Captain Caveman]
#9750223 - 02/06/09 03:00 PM (9 months, 9 days ago) |
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hey ive searched and searched
can someone link me to a good bulk coir tek
it would also be helpful if it had a small list of items or ingredients
because i am limited on cash
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: the walrus]
#9750301 - 02/06/09 03:18 PM (9 months, 9 days ago) |
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hi, im a first time grower. i put my colonized cakes, dunked and rolled in my terrerium over one week ago and still no signs of pinning 
half pint cakes are on perlite, i have holes for co2 drainage and a air pump with water stone in water. temperature fluctuates but only slightly between 73 and 78. rh is at least 91%.
everything seems in place but over a week and nothing.
can anybody help me please?
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: dopper dry]
#9752019 - 02/06/09 07:56 PM (9 months, 9 days ago) |
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are there air holes under your perlite? if not put that air stone under the perlite so it can help with air flow through the perlite creating evaporation better humidity. if you dont want to do that then you have to put holes on the bottom of your FC.
if that doesnt help mist your cake and perlite then fan fan fan. FAE(frequent air exchange) is VERY important. mist and fan alot. fanning helps dry out the cake which in turn makes the myc want to make mushies to reproduce. misting helps keep your perlite and verm layer moist.
just thought of something: did you let the cake consolidate(the cake may look 100% done but you wait for the inside to finish and the myc gets a better hold) 1 week b4 you birthed it? that may be the reason for stall. give it another week b4 you worry.IMO
everything else seems alright.
remember patience is the key.
www.mushroomvideos.com ; best tek for cakes pf tek. watch all 4 parts.
good luck.
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: 13shrooms]
#9758977 - 02/08/09 06:45 AM (9 months, 7 days ago) |
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thanks, i dont have holes in the bottom, just in all four sides. i'll get on that right away. unfortunately i dont have time to fan frequently. maybe add another air pump or a larger one? the one i have is quite small in a 45litre FC. maybe i'm just gunna have to make more time to fan them. or maybe if i have a desk fan on a timer permanently facing the FC to push fresh air in the ventilation holes. good idea?
i did allow for consolidation, around 6 days.
patience is a vertue i struggle with. learning curve is steep 
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: dopper dry]
#9761141 - 02/08/09 04:09 PM (9 months, 7 days ago) |
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JOY! i went to drill my holes today and found them pinning!
they relief came over me like warm blanket! i will still drill the holes tommorrow
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: Nibin]
#9764946 - 02/09/09 09:26 AM (9 months, 6 days ago) |
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thank you so much!
your guide answered all of my questions except one.
Where can i get the spores?
There are many websites out there, but could an experienced cultivator point me towards one that is reputable?
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: eleven11]
#9764966 - 02/09/09 09:37 AM (9 months, 6 days ago) |
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There are many websites out there, but could an experienced cultivator point me towards one that is reputable?
all vendors here in shroomery are the best. there is a vendor forum here also.
my personal fav is www.ralphstersspores.com
when you place an order ask for S.O.T.M (strain of the month) you get a freebie.
it only took 5 days to get my order.
and dont think you have to see spores for it to work. all syringes Ive ever used are crystal clear and I have had zero complaints.
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: 13shrooms]
#9787275 - 02/12/09 08:22 PM (9 months, 3 days ago) |
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can anybody tell me how i can tell when my first flush is over?
thanks
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: dopper dry]
#9789133 - 02/13/09 04:32 AM (9 months, 2 days ago) |
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well when the majority of them hit maturity and are picked, I pull the remaining stragglers and the second flushes pins, to my understanding are set to a degree. Then there is about 4-7 days of downtime.
Hyphae's pinning strategy explains this in better detail.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/3290155#3290155
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: JSshroom]
#9791679 - 02/13/09 05:39 PM (9 months, 2 days ago) |
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so i definitely want to pick the pins off befor i dunk n roll?
the potential fruit won't be lost?
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: noobieshroomie]
#9792385 - 02/13/09 07:54 PM (9 months, 2 days ago) |
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newb i have 5 jars wet rye brown and white slow moving but no water pooling! first time with rye. will i be ok? or trash and start new?
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: kezrock101]
#9796523 - 02/14/09 04:14 PM (9 months, 1 day ago) |
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i just harvested my first flush. off 4 half pint cakes and 1 slightly smaller cake i yielded 160 gramms wet. is this good?
can someone let me know please
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: dopper dry]
#9796793 - 02/14/09 05:13 PM (9 months, 1 day ago) |
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'taint bad
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: noobieshroomie]
#9806052 - 02/16/09 02:01 AM (8 months, 30 days ago) |
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Quite useful. Cheers
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Need advice/please help [Re: Nibin]
#9814712 - 02/17/09 02:37 PM (8 months, 29 days ago) |
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Hello everyone, new to this forum but very interested in learning. have recently started a grow and went through everything step-by-step using the pf tek method.
Trying for phys cubensis, at almost 9 days still showing no colonization or even any growth at all. Out of 4 jars, 1 has a small, white spot growing about 3/4 size of a dime.
Couple of questions: initially for the first 3 days, was only able to keep at a temp range between 67 and 75. As far as i know, should shoot for 75-81. However moved jars to a warmer location, now steady right around 78 but has been almost another 6 days in this temp.
How long should we expect to go before growth starting for keeping at a lower temp, or does it mess up the whole grow?
After steamong/boiling for 90 minutes, let cool for almost 2 hours, part of the time by fan, should i let them sit overnight before inoculation?
ALso, is it good to bake the verm before making the substrate? The verm is older, been sitting around a while, and i wonder if that has anything to do with it.
Used verm, brown rice flour substrate. Recommend anything else for p c?
Also, is scotch tape over the holes the wrong tape, at first thats all we had and we picked up some medical tape. Would that have anything to do with no growth?
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: dead]
#9819158 - 02/18/09 10:23 AM (8 months, 28 days ago) |
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WHOO!!! DONT know if you guys remeber me, but i took a few months off of the threads to do my own experiencing and learning.. after 4 attempts i have finally found my rythym.. i got nice fruit from a high yeild strain lc. finally!! so thanks for any of your help if you were around then, and ill be posting pics shortly. i used wbr cakes in 1/2 pint jars. i got small fruits,,but not too small,,and i got lots. i am going to step up to full quarts on my next and will be going through a SPONSER of this SHROOMERY to get some supplies, and mabey another lc. i would like to monotub the full quarts. i haven't tried the tech yet.
for this successfull grow,i have just picked from the wbr 1/2 pint cakes,
i used the wbr tech on this site to mix the appropriate amount of water and rice.
boiled in a pc for 1-2 hours,,
let cool overnight in box,,
used the oven rack tech for inoculation,
incubated in dark at 74f until full colonization
i then used a small, 1 gallon fish aquarium
strained hot water and half a cap of peroxide through
perlite
layered perlite about 3 inches thick at bottom of
aquarium.
dunked cake for a few minutes
placed it directly onto the perlite
placed small tube of water in the corner
placed small aquarium pump inside the water tube,
cut holes in top of plastic cover for ventalation,
covered the holes with poly fill,
sealed the edges of the cover,
and left alone,
checking only once every 2 days,
(i was sterile the whole time i handled anything
and sprayed any room the mushies would be in, with lysol first.)
i walked into my closet one morning and huala!!! there were 40 pins growing. 3 days later 20 pins were fully grown.
if i can do this, anyone can!!!!! lol..
questions for you guys:
how long will a mushy stay good when freeze dried??
is freezing a good idea?
thanks
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: SyMaNtiCX66]
#9819463 - 02/18/09 11:32 AM (8 months, 28 days ago) |
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Quote:
for this successfull grow,i have just picked from the wbr 1/2 pint cakes,
i used the wbr tech on this site to mix the appropriate amount of water and rice.
boiled in a pc for 1-2 hours,,
let cool overnight in box,,
used the oven rack tech for inoculation,
incubated in dark at 74f until full colonization
i then used a small, 1 gallon fish aquarium
strained hot water and half a cap of peroxide through
perlite
layered perlite about 3 inches thick at bottom of
aquarium.
dunked cake for a few minutes
placed it directly onto the perlite
placed small tube of water in the corner
placed small aquarium pump inside the water tube,
cut holes in top of plastic cover for ventalation,
covered the holes with poly fill,
sealed the edges of the cover,
and left alone,
checking only once every 2 days,
(i was sterile the whole time i handled anything
and sprayed any room the mushies would be in, with lysol first.)
i walked into my closet one morning and huala!!! there were 40 pins growing. 3 days later 20 pins were fully grown.
if i can do this, anyone can!!!!! lol..
questions for you guys:
how long will a mushy stay good when freeze dried??
is freezing a good idea?
thanks
to answer your question, you dont freeze them to dry them. once they are dry keep them in a plastic bag with a silica gel pack(like in beef jerky bags) and it should be good for years.
but as for your methods, all of it is out dated and their are better versions to use with better results.
1)what is wbr? do you mean brf or wbs?
2)if you have a PC you dont boil. you PC @ 15lbs. for 60 min. or you steam in a pot for 90min.
3)oven tek has been deleated off shroomery for being flat out bad for anything.
4)incubating- the only thing that matters is temps. having it in the dark/light does nothing during colonization only fruiting.
5)you dont use peroxide w/perlite only cobweb mold.
6)dunking takes up to 24 hrs not a couple of minutes.
7)should have foil under your cake not directly on perlite.
8)you should have a shotgun FC with 5" of perlite and give FAE and misting when needed.
9)fish tanks arnt good for FAE neither are air pumps.
10)watch this video on the PF tek it sounds like what you were trying to accomplish
www.mushroomvideos.com ; all 4 parts of the PF tek.
I use my cakes to crumble them in my monotub and mix with this tek.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/favlinker.php?Cat=&Entry=89994&F_Board=30&Thread=9289857&partnumber=&postmarker=
sounds like you doing alright though. keep up the learning and good luck.
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: 13shrooms]
#9843466 - 02/22/09 12:16 PM (8 months, 24 days ago) |
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just eecenrly harvested my first flush......
about 160 gramms wet of b+. dried them with a fan and tried them.
the potency was disappointing as hell
off 3 dry gramms all i had was brighter colours.
however, i had been drinking and had also had a few ecstacy pills.
is this why they didn't work? or have i just done a bad job growing?
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: dopper dry]
#9865519 - 02/25/09 08:01 PM (8 months, 21 days ago) |
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Thanks for this thread, I've gone over it a few times, but I think I need to check out some more stuff before I decide to get started
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: Kantaris]
#9868867 - 02/26/09 11:13 AM (8 months, 20 days ago) |
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This thread is very helpful. Thanks.
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: mushsucks]
#9874208 - 02/27/09 02:05 AM (8 months, 19 days ago) |
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: noobieshroomie]
#9890241 - 03/01/09 01:22 PM (8 months, 17 days ago) |
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I've got a few noob questions for you guys. I've got about 6 mason jars almost fully colonized. I plan to fruit them in an aquarium. My questions are reguarding oxygen exchange, contamination, and temperature. I have a 5 gallon fish tank that I will be fruiting 6 cakes in, how often do I need to let fresh air in? I am going to cover the top with a peice of "press and seal" wrap and put a loose peice of plexi glass on top of that just incase. I have a fish tank pump too that I was thinking of using to help prevent contamnation, good idea or should I not even bother? I also have an aquarium heater I may use to get the heat and humidity exactly where I want them, I'm not sure if this is necessary since the state I live in doesn't get very cold anyways. So basically should I use the pump and/or heater, I know they would help but I'm kind of a noob and don't want to risk contamination putting foreign objects into the tank?
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: apg1387]
#9890303 - 03/01/09 01:30 PM (8 months, 17 days ago) |
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You will want to exchange the air in you're chamber a minimum of 4 times a day. More would be better!!! Also you'll want to mist you're cakes directly a couple times a day until you see pins. then mist around the sides. also you'll want to dunk and roll you're cakes before putting them in you're FC. you can use the aquarium pump to help fresh air enter you're aquarium but you don't want to trap the air inside!! use the search function and look at other peoples setups I have never used a glass aquarium before only the shotgun tek.. which is fairly cheap to set up look up that and PMP. to get some more ideas wish I could be of more help....
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: 13shrooms]
#9909552 - 03/04/09 10:47 AM (8 months, 14 days ago) |
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Quote:
13shrooms said:
Quote:
for this successfull grow,i have just picked from the wbr 1/2 pint cakes,
i used the wbr tech on this site to mix the appropriate amount of water and rice.
boiled in a pc for 1-2 hours,,
let cool overnight in box,,
used the oven rack tech for inoculation,
incubated in dark at 74f until full colonization
i then used a small, 1 gallon fish aquarium
strained hot water and half a cap of peroxide through
perlite
layered perlite about 3 inches thick at bottom of
aquarium.
dunked cake for a few minutes
placed it directly onto the perlite
placed small tube of water in the corner
placed small aquarium pump inside the water tube,
cut holes in top of plastic cover for ventalation,
covered the holes with poly fill,
sealed the edges of the cover,
and left alone,
checking only once every 2 days,
(i was sterile the whole time i handled anything
and sprayed any room the mushies would be in, with lysol first.)
i walked into my closet one morning and huala!!! there were 40 pins growing. 3 days later 20 pins were fully grown.
if i can do this, anyone can!!!!! lol..
questions for you guys:
how long will a mushy stay good when freeze dried??
is freezing a good idea?
thanks
to answer your question, you dont freeze them to dry them. once they are dry keep them in a plastic bag with a silica gel pack(like in beef jerky bags) and it should be good for years.
but as for your methods, all of it is out dated and their are better versions to use with better results.
1)what is wbr? do you mean brf or wbs?
2)if you have a PC you dont boil. you PC @ 15lbs. for 60 min. or you steam in a pot for 90min.
3)oven tek has been deleated off shroomery for being flat out bad for anything.
4)incubating- the only thing that matters is temps. having it in the dark/light does nothing during colonization only fruiting.
5)you dont use peroxide w/perlite only cobweb mold.
6)dunking takes up to 24 hrs not a couple of minutes.
7)should have foil under your cake not directly on perlite.
8)you should have a shotgun FC with 5" of perlite and give FAE and misting when needed.
9)fish tanks arnt good for FAE neither are air pumps.
10)watch this video on the PF tek it sounds like what you were trying to accomplish
www.mushroomvideos.com ; all 4 parts of the PF tek.
I use my cakes to crumble them in my monotub and mix with this tek.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/favlinker.php?Cat=&Entry=89994&F_Board=30&Thread=9289857&partnumber=&postmarker=
sounds like you doing alright though. keep up the learning and good luck.
wbr was meant to mean whole brown rice. sorry. still at noob level but did get a nice first fruit. the tek you have just provided and the info you just posted has helped tremendously. i cant wait to mono tub. the coir tek does seem pretty easy. thanks again. btw ill be incubating quart wbs jars this week for the tek you provided. ill let you know how it goes. one question, ill have 6 quart jars of wbs. when i mix the fully colon. wbs into the coir, will i mix in 5 quarts and then use the 6th for the frosting layer? or can i use 2 on coir and a the 3rd for top layer, so that i have two separate tubs to cut down on contam. the entire grow. Thanks for any help..... E
and what is a shotgun fc and where can i find? lol
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: SyMaNtiCX66]
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ill be incubating quart wbs jars this week for the tek you provided. ill let you know how it goes. one question, ill have 6 quart jars of wbs. when i mix the fully colon. wbs into the coir, will i mix in 5 quarts and then use the 6th for the frosting layer? or can i use 2 on coir and a the 3rd for top layer, so that i have two separate tubs to cut down on contam. the entire grow. Thanks for any help..... E
and what is a shotgun fc and where can i find? lol
Im doing the same just got my pressure cooker today, starting liquid cultures. (for future reference try this once you get your grains down) Grain LC that way you have enough inoculation for whatever you want to try.
DONT! I REAPEAT DONT USE A FROSTING LAYER. thats bad info. make sure you have enough substrate left to fully cover your spawn. spawn should NEVER be exposed b4 its fully colonized. layer it in or dump all your spawn in and mix. just make sure you have substrate on top NOT spawn.
I would put a layer of sub down then 1 quart spawn, then more sub, then 2 quarts spawn, then rest of sub.
yeah 3 quarts in 1 and 3 in the other is good. its what Im doing and its working.lol
a shotgun FC is used for fruiting cakes and/or trays(that will fit).
its just a whatevermade tub you drill/melt 1/4" holes on all six sides fill with 5" of moist perlite and place your trays/cakes on top of the perlite.
the holes wick up moisture into the FC keeping your humidity @ 95+. the holes on the bottom create an up current forcing air up through the perlite evaporating moisture and pushing it up around your grow and pushing out old air and Co2. it does the FAE for you. you just have to make sure it stays moist by misting your perlite and cakes when needed.
hope this helps.
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: 13shrooms]
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ill be incubating quart wbs jars this week for the tek you provided. ill let you know how it goes. one question, ill have 6 quart jars of wbs. when i mix the fully colon. wbs into the coir, will i mix in 5 quarts and then use the 6th for the frosting layer? or can i use 2 on coir and a the 3rd for top layer, so that i have two separate tubs to cut down on contam. the entire grow. Thanks for any help..... E
and what is a shotgun fc and where can i find? lol
Im doing the same just got my pressure cooker today, starting liquid cultures. (for future reference try this once you get your grains down) Grain LC that way you have enough inoculation for whatever you want to try.
DONT! I REAPEAT DONT USE A FROSTING LAYER. thats bad info. make sure you have enough substrate left to fully cover your spawn. spawn should NEVER be exposed b4 its fully colonized. layer it in or dump all your spawn in and mix. just make sure you have substrate on top NOT spawn.
I would put a layer of sub down then 1 quart spawn, then more sub, then 2 quarts spawn, then rest of sub.
yeah 3 quarts in 1 and 3 in the other is good. its what Im doing and its working.lol
a shotgun FC is used for fruiting cakes and/or trays(that will fit).
its just a whatevermade tub you drill/melt 1/4" holes on all six sides fill with 5" of moist perlite and place your trays/cakes on top of the perlite.
the holes wick up moisture into the FC keeping your humidity @ 95+. the holes on the bottom create an up current forcing air up through the perlite evaporating moisture and pushing it up around your grow and pushing out old air and Co2. it does the FAE for you. you just have to make sure it stays moist by misting your perlite and cakes when needed.
hope this helps.
OH yeah man this helped greatly. thanks. ill keep up with you and post pics. i inoculated 3 days ago. no signs of myc. yet of course. but bought sterile sub. jars and lc from sponsor, so i think im good. their the psylocibe india orisas strain or something like that?? lol thanks again and keep an eye out for me on this page. ill be asking more soon surely,,, peace
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: noobieshroomie]
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: noobieshroomie]
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sick man. thanks
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: Jesticles]
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hey i am about to try my first attempt at growing shrooms using the pf tek. assuming i have a helathy cake and dunk between flushes how much should a single half pint cake yield combining the weight of all the flushes...dry weight of course
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: chunk911]
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how much should a single half pint cake yield combining the weight of all the flushes...dry weight of course
Anything between 5-20 grams, depends on lots of things.
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: dead]
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dead.... lovin your quote!!! i see right through some pairs of eyes and people would think i was carzy if i told them what i saw.. i did it one time to a girl though and told her what i saw. she cried and ran away.. anyways,
MY THIRD EYE ISN"T THE TV ANYMORE..lol IT"S OPEN!! cool to see you dead..
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: 13shrooms]
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DONT! I REAPEAT DONT USE A FROSTING LAYER. thats bad info. make sure you have enough substrate left to fully cover your spawn. spawn should NEVER be exposed b4 its fully colonized. layer it in or dump all your spawn in and mix. just make sure you have substrate on top NOT spawn.
I would put a layer of sub down then 1 quart spawn, then more sub, then 2 quarts spawn, then rest of sub.
yeah 3 quarts in 1 and 3 in the other is good. its what Im doing and its working.lol
a shotgun FC is used for fruiting cakes and/or trays(that will fit).
its just a whatevermade tub you drill/melt 1/4" holes on all six sides fill with 5" of moist perlite and place your trays/cakes on top of the perlite.
the holes wick up moisture into the FC keeping your humidity @ 95+. the holes on the bottom create an up current forcing air up through the perlite evaporating moisture and pushing it up around your grow and pushing out old air and Co2. it does the FAE for you. you just have to make sure it stays moist by misting your perlite and cakes when needed.
hope this helps.
hey man its me again. i was wondering, i see little spots of myc. starting to sprout and colon. the wbs jars. what is the usual real wait time for the full colonization? anyone? i know heat, air, contam, all play a roll but if everything was done right (Hypothetic)lol,,, whats the normal wait time???
thanks...
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: Nibin]
#9994571 - 03/18/09 11:49 AM (8 months, 11 hours ago) |
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oh sweet, Ive been away for a few years, this threads just recapped all I knew in half an hour! thought I'd forgotton all I'd leant here.!!!
thanks and happy growing all.
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: noobieshroomie]
#10005897 - 03/20/09 02:17 AM (7 months, 29 days ago) |
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hi im just getting back into this hobby ..i tried once and epic failed 8 1/2 pt brf Jars all 8 contaminated ...well here i am a year later and now its starting to get back into season so am i ...well i didnt really have any mats so i took an old chia pet had soil and and a few rye seeds and a hand full of verm and a hand full of cow manure i got from walmart i mixed it all together pasteurized it,squeezed most the water out for 30 min took a clean (old) jar filled it almost up now made a filter foiled it got a small jar for a print i made last(making a syringe) year and i am also sterilizing and old syringe i had using the boiling method ..i know this is off the wall but what do u think my success rate will be ..10%?
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: Nibin]
#10034248 - 03/24/09 05:41 PM (7 months, 25 days ago) |
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really good informations!
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: shroomathan]
#10034287 - 03/24/09 05:48 PM (7 months, 25 days ago) |
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hey man its me again. i was wondering, i see little spots of myc. starting to sprout and colon. the wbs jars. what is the usual real wait time for the full colonization? anyone? i know heat, air, contam, all play a roll but if everything was done right (Hypothetic)lol,,, whats the normal wait time???
2-3 weeks if you used a spore syringe, or 1-2 weeks if you used Liquid culture, to inoculate your wbs jars. IME.
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: 13shrooms]
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hey man its me again. i was wondering, i see little spots of myc. starting to sprout and colon. the wbs jars. what is the usual real wait time for the full colonization? anyone? i know heat, air, contam, all play a roll but if everything was done right (Hypothetic)lol,,, whats the normal wait time???
2-3 weeks if you used a spore syringe, or 1-2 weeks if you used Liquid culture, to inoculate your wbs jars. IME.
I've had full colonization with a very fast LC strains that only took about 5 days. Courtesy of Ralphsters, his BHT and Texas are extremely great LC's to use and they tear the grain apart.
This was done with a 4cc injection.. Not just down the sides of the jar... I've found that immediate shaking of the jar to disperse the LC throughout will speed things up dramatically.
Within 2 days the mycelium was dominating and full colonization was hit at about 5 days total. This was also done at room temperature, as well... I love LC's
How you been 13shrooms? How's your project coming along? Keep in touch man!
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: drunkmunky]
#10058725 - 03/28/09 07:13 AM (7 months, 21 days ago) |
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Some of the more prominent members here would advise against LC's. Simply because you can't always tell if it's a contaminant or not. I personally love LC's, however, just be aware that contaminants can appear as mycelium in an LC too and the difference is sometimes impossible to tell.
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: mushroomhunter10]
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How you been 13shrooms? How's your project coming along? Keep in touch man!
just got done shootin up some PE LC to 6 grain jars like 10 min ago.
getting ready to prep 6 more jars for my Chinese Dancing Tigers from ralphs.
will know more in a few days on my progress.
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: 13shrooms]
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How you been 13shrooms? How's your project coming along? Keep in touch man!
just got done shootin up some PE LC to 6 grain jars like 10 min ago.
getting ready to prep 6 more jars for my Chinese Dancing Tigers from ralphs.
will know more in a few days on my progress.
Well good for you! I spoke with you about a month ago you were scared of LC's and Grain Jars LOL
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: mushroomhunter10]
#10059537 - 03/28/09 11:19 AM (7 months, 21 days ago) |
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Some of the more prominent members here would advise against LC's. Simply because you can't always tell if it's a contaminant or not. I personally love LC's, however, just be aware that contaminants can appear as mycelium in an LC too and the difference is sometimes impossible to tell.
I agree they can easily get ruined if you're not careful... I've only had one contamination problem in my career so far.. I had an LC clone backfire on me one time but it was due to open air exposure... Then I built a glove box... Problem solved
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: veda_sticks]
#10081118 - 03/31/09 03:21 PM (7 months, 18 days ago) |
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i was making agar plate with a potato recipe...PDA
i was doing just the same as was writing here on forums...i clone a oyster mushroom....but i get just a litle colonization after 17 days:(.
I dont now what i am doing wrong:(. after 17 days i see colonization , but its not complitly pure white color. Is thet normal?What i am doing wrong?:(
What time it should take before i see full colonized micelium on agar
And what temperature i should keep oyster Agar medium?
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: komsija]
#10081133 - 03/31/09 03:23 PM (7 months, 18 days ago) |
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Yeah glove boxes rule. Especially for poor folks like me!
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: noobieshroomie]
#10095670 - 04/02/09 04:38 PM (7 months, 16 days ago) |
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is this necessarily the best technique? the convntional method with fertilizer layers have a system in place for catching spores and regrowing the mushrooms
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: sublimepua]
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the convntional method with fertilizer layers have a system in place for catching spores and regrowing the mushrooms
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: noobieshroomie]
#10108403 - 04/05/09 12:54 AM (7 months, 13 days ago) |
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very informative thanks man!
i especially like the link action in the bulk cult. section
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#10120413 - 04/06/09 11:07 PM (7 months, 12 days ago) |
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I'm new to the site and love it! My firs question is how to submit a message to the community? My second question is "why my quart jars aren't showing signs of colonization?" I appreciate any help
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: sublimepua]
#10120448 - 04/06/09 11:13 PM (7 months, 12 days ago) |
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I'm new to the site and could use a lil' help. I can't find out how to send a message to the community for the life of me. Once i can submit a message then my question can be answered from there. Thanks for the help.
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: YearOfChange09]
#10120483 - 04/06/09 11:23 PM (7 months, 11 days ago) |
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click on FORUMS then click on mushroom cultivation then click post thread then ask said question. hope that helps.
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: 13shrooms]
#10156573 - 04/13/09 07:29 AM (7 months, 5 days ago) |
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Hi all, fist time grower trying not to kill myself!
Got some Psilocybe cubensis Puerto Rican Liquid Culture Syringes in Jan 09. Took about 5 weeks to colonize in vermiculite and BRF.
I then dunked and rolled and placed them in a clear tub with holes all over. (recently introduced a cool mist humdifier)hope that helps them pine.
Out of 6 cakes 1 fruited with 3 mushroms on it, took 4eva.
Reason im worried is that they do not bruise blue or any colour???
Is this Psilocybe cubensis Puerto Rican?
Please have a look at these pics & help.
  
Thanks
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: beng]
#10157145 - 04/13/09 10:53 AM (7 months, 5 days ago) |
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looks like a cube to me. Id eat it.
you should have had foil or some sort of berrior between your perlite and cake.
check this out
www.mushroomvideos.com ; parts 1-4 pf tek
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: 13shrooms]
#10157438 - 04/13/09 11:46 AM (7 months, 5 days ago) |
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Thanks
lol, its not perlite. lol its polystyrene. had nothing else.
Does that mean cubensis mite not always bruise blue or purple?
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: beng]
#10157514 - 04/13/09 12:04 PM (7 months, 5 days ago) |
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yeah, unless your working with clones or isolates its all random genitics, random potencies, random eerything.
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: 13shrooms]
#10189809 - 04/18/09 12:42 PM (7 months, 10 hours ago) |
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HEY I have a qiuck question:
I have a fully colonized quart wbs cake in a fruiting chamber with shotgun holes and polyfill stuffing on the sides and top.(monotub) the cake is looking healty and it resembles a big ball of cotton with little bulges poking out every\where. but no pins yet. its been in the chamber for a week or little more a with damp pearlite about 2 inches thick at bottom and i mist 2 or 3 time a day... should i continue to be patient? or is my cake not responding correctly... thanks for any help guys and gals....
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: noobieshroomie]
#10202716 - 04/20/09 04:40 PM (6 months, 29 days ago) |
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Hey,
A few of quick questions for method 1
1. Is it okay to use 440ml jars? Only type I can access
2. I have B+ spores in a syringe, is it ok to use just some of the spores as a trial run and save the rest for later?
3. Can the fruiting chamber have frosted glass/plastic?
Cheers, thanks for all your help
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: VloodyCloody]
#10204053 - 04/20/09 09:15 PM (6 months, 29 days ago) |
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VloodyCloody said:
Hey,
A few of quick questions for method 1
1. Is it okay to use 440ml jars? Only type I can access
2. I have B+ spores in a syringe, is it ok to use just some of the spores as a trial run and save the rest for later?
3. Can the fruiting chamber have frosted glass/plastic?
Cheers, thanks for all your help
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: SyMaNtiCX66]
#10207218 - 04/21/09 01:29 PM (6 months, 28 days ago) |
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SyMaNtiCX66 said:
HEY I have a qiuck question:
I have a fully colonized quart wbs cake in a fruiting chamber with shotgun holes and polyfill stuffing on the sides and top.(monotub) the cake is looking healty and it resembles a big ball of cotton with little bulges poking out every\where. but no pins yet. its been in the chamber for a week or little more a with damp pearlite about 2 inches thick at bottom and i mist 2 or 3 time a day... should i continue to be patient? or is my cake not responding correctly... thanks for any help guys and gals....
EJ
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: SyMaNtiCX66]
#10207243 - 04/21/09 01:34 PM (6 months, 28 days ago) |
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If it really does look like cotton then it might be Cobweb Mold.
Do a search for the term and see if it looks similar to your cake.
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: mushroomhunter10]
#10209044 - 04/21/09 06:10 PM (6 months, 28 days ago) |
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no its not cobweb mold, i am fruiting directly from a colonized wbs cake that i have removed from the quart jar and placed in inside a monotub. no casing, or roll.. only a cake full of the colonized myc. the myc is what i meant by cottony looking.. its deffinately colonized mycelium. i guess i need to post a pic but my cam is f... ing up on me... i think i have a healthy cake because it looks better and different every time i mist,, just no pins yet... i think i should apply a little more patience into the mix bc the grow appears healthy so far... so thanks if anyone can make sense of that.. my only question would be; what is the time span that you usually see pins, after you place the cake inside fruiting conditions???
thanks again
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: SyMaNtiCX66]
#10209902 - 04/21/09 08:01 PM (6 months, 28 days ago) |
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Make sure it's in fruiting conditions.
72F-76F and a drop in humidity to 85-90%.
Fresh Air Exchanges - 4 or 5 per day (fan chamber).
12/12 light cycle, or leave it by a window in your home.
Maybe the dunk and roll will help you too. Try a 24 hour dunk in water, then roll your cake in vermiculite and adhere to the parameters above.
Sounds to me like you have to kick it into fruiting mode. Perhaps a more experienced cultivator will chime-in. I don't cultivate actives and I might be missing something.
Best of Luck.
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Is dunk and rolling with verm really necessary for fruiting B+ cubensis? I watched another video where this technique was not used and the cakes produced well.
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Re: dunk and rolling [Re: trippybob]
#10271447 - 05/02/09 12:22 AM (6 months, 17 days ago) |
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just de case with verm, thats what i did my first time with b+ and worked veary well, other than that keep the rh up and fae and u should get great results
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but should i soak them in water for 24 hours to?
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Re: dunk and rolling [Re: trippybob]
#10298509 - 05/06/09 06:27 PM (6 months, 13 days ago) |
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yes you should. and after every flush.
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: noobieshroomie]
#10302256 - 05/07/09 12:26 PM (6 months, 12 days ago) |
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our mushrooms here on the phil.grow fast during rainy days even though you don't have to cultivate it...
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: noobieshroomie]
#10319373 - 05/10/09 09:27 PM (6 months, 9 days ago) |
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good beginner's guide...
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Heya,
this is my first post here and I am sorry if I am posting in the wrong section for my diahhlemuh. but...
I am trying to grow for the first time and if I do say so myself I have done everything by the book. Verm. and Brown rice flour, and I have no mycelium growth after about four weeks. No contamination is visible but there aint no stringy white stuff either, it just looks like the rice flour is getting a little bloated at the bottom. I have seen similar testimony from other "sporestore.com" buyers and am wondering if this is not a suggested spore source. I would love to get some "serious spores" and would appreciate any recommendations. I would love to buy/trade direct form a successful grower who collects spores but I dont know if this is against excepted conduct for this site.
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www.ralphstersspores.com (write your own order form and mail w/your money order and u have no paper trail + ask for SOTM, Strain Of The Month, you get a free spore syringe with every purchase)
www.sporeworks.com
www.thehawkseye.com
All great vendors
there is a forum with all reputable vendors listed somewhere here on shroomery.
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yeah I ordered from the spore store also and got nothing out of 48 jars they are a scam you hear it a lot here
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Re: wondering.. [Re: trekie]
#10354469 - 05/17/09 05:04 PM (6 months, 2 days ago) |
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Thanks much. Very helpful bunch here
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shroomery wont carry shitty suppliers.
no way.
a trusted vendor supported/advertised by the shroomery wont steer you wrong.
case closed.
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Where do you go if you live in Cali?
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Where do you go if you live in Cali?
pickin in the woods.....
or a PO Box in a neighboring state???
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I've had Ps. cyanescens spores from Golden Gate Park. Those are some of the most potent species in existence. Be careful though, a deadly Galerina that looks similar can sometimes grow right in the middle of a bunch of cyanescens.
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I am willing to go to great lengths and produce unreasonable amounts of money for a Cubensis spore print. They are completely out of my reach due to myopic bureaucratic tyranny. PLEASE HELP!!!!
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Thanks, although I am not really experienced to pick my own yet. The P.O. Box does sound like a good idea. As a complete noob I'd like to start a small collection, I already have a few but I'd like to suplement the collection faster. Plus there are some things out there that just look like a lot of fun to grow.
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There are vendors that send to California.
It's not illegal in California either, there is a grey area that has a loophole in the law. As long as it's for microscopic study only then you're good to go. Most vendors just stay away from it because they don't have a thorough understanding of the law.
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: Nibin]
#10449407 - 06/03/09 06:48 PM (5 months, 16 days ago) |
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hey Im really new to this and I have questions. Just not sure who to ask and I hope Im not wasting your time.
If this is the wrong spot can you direct me to the right place ?
I live in Canada and I bought a mushroom kit with the spawn.
NOT ILLEGAL HERE
I got it right I think so far but the instructions suck bad - lol
The kit is prety simple and it consist of a burlap bag of straw substrate,plastic bag,mushroom casing soil,casing starter,water bottle,jar of spawn
ANyways I got it at the end of the process and the top of the soil is turning white but its been 10 days since I've seen the white (mold) i guess and nothing happening - so my question is how long does it take before I see any results. ps> i got it at 27 degress 84 F and I got it 12 hrs in the dark and 12 hrs in the light 25 watt bulb
ANyways I hope you can help - its my first time and Im looking forward to summer - lol
ANyways I got the kit set
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: cjdworks]
#10449917 - 06/03/09 08:14 PM (5 months, 16 days ago) |
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The "white" is called mycelium "my-see-lee-uhm". It's the main part of your fungus, the mushrooms are the mycelium's "seeds", for lack of a better term. It's how the mycelium reproduces, it makes the mushroom and drops spores.
Which species did the "kit" say it was?
Anyways, a few things.
Make sure it's getting fresh air.
Make sure the humidity is high, 90%-100%.
Make sure your light is in the 6500k color range (natural daylight color)
Drop your temperature to 76.
That should get your mushrooms up!
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: noobieshroomie]
#10528319 - 06/18/09 02:04 AM (5 months, 1 day ago) |
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OK i am new to this mushroom thing (growing that is) But a buddy of mine gave me 2 jars of 100ml mushroom spores... just take the syringe and extract it from the jars... the jars have a tyrek paper on it and holes are be drilled in these jars... the question is he was making truffles... this is what he said ... "look on the net and find something about these ingredients" (i know he is telling the truth b/c i have seen his grow and tasted it too...)
mason jars
pressure cooker
annual rye grass seed
black coffee
the spores i gave you
and silicon
told me that i will soak the black coffee (2 pots) with the rye grass 50%/50% (not telling me how long)
then you will rinse the grass seed multiple times
place the grass seed in the mason jars to 500ml allows you to shake them later on.
place the mason jars in pressure cooker and cook for 90 mins at 15psi
after that let them cool.... sterilize your syringe and inject 1cc into the jars... make sure you sterilize the needle after a couple of jars. if you get anything on it then sterilize it and wipe with rubbing alcohol...
lid them and shake them for the first week then let sit for about 3-4 months...
with all that shit said i have no fucking clue as to what to do and he has moved away so i am stuck with this solution in mason jars that is starting to look as if pieces of jelly fish were placed in this lightly tan colored water...
Can someone please reply or point me in the right direction to fixing my problem... all i can add to this is he was growing TRUFFLES not mushrooms but they worked like field caps.
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: Keagal420]
#10535820 - 06/19/09 09:53 AM (5 months, 13 hours ago) |
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Keagal420 said:
OK i am new to this mushroom thing (growing that is) But a buddy of mine gave me 2 jars of 100ml mushroom spores... just take the syringe and extract it from the jars... the jars have a tyrek paper on it and holes are be drilled in these jars... the question is he was making truffles... this is what he said ... "look on the net and find something about these ingredients" (i know he is telling the truth b/c i have seen his grow and tasted it too...)
mason jars
pressure cooker
annual rye grass seed
black coffee
the spores i gave you
and silicon
told me that i will soak the black coffee (2 pots) with the rye grass 50%/50% (not telling me how long)
then you will rinse the grass seed multiple times
place the grass seed in the mason jars to 500ml allows you to shake them later on.
place the mason jars in pressure cooker and cook for 90 mins at 15psi
after that let them cool.... sterilize your syringe and inject 1cc into the jars... make sure you sterilize the needle after a couple of jars. if you get anything on it then sterilize it and wipe with rubbing alcohol...
lid them and shake them for the first week then let sit for about 3-4 months...
with all that shit said i have no fucking clue as to what to do and he has moved away so i am stuck with this solution in mason jars that is starting to look as if pieces of jelly fish were placed in this lightly tan colored water...
Can someone please reply or point me in the right direction to fixing my problem... all i can add to this is he was growing TRUFFLES not mushrooms but they worked like field caps.
If only there were some place... a collection of threads perhaps, where all the answers you need are there for the picking... alas, does such a place exist?
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: Lostkeys]
#10536902 - 06/19/09 01:22 PM (5 months, 9 hours ago) |
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Yeah at the top right-hand side of your screen you'll see a search box.
When searching, leave common words like "and" "the" "or", etc... out so that the search is more refined and specific.
Look in the Grow Logs section for great tutorials and techniques.
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: mushroomhunter10]
#10631262 - 07/06/09 04:47 PM (4 months, 14 days ago) |
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Holy crap. why wasn't this post around years ago. Thank you!
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: Yipes]
#10634215 - 07/07/09 04:37 AM (4 months, 13 days ago) |
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My PF Jars look funny when compared what everybody else s I have seen....
I have mycelium growing (Inoculated on the 4th)... but my Dry layer of verm and my Substrate of BRF, Verm and water (From RR Recipe) have about I guess a half a inch between them. So there is a gap between the top layer and the actual substrate on most jars.
I am thinking I did something wrong.... If I did will I be ok?
One thing I did wrong maybe was leave my jars in the pressure cooker to long.... They were in there for a Hour and Half under 15psi, I figured over sterilization wouldn't hurt anything, because I had heard an hour then I had heard hour and half.
Then I am not sure if water got in while it was pressure cooking considering I used foil and masking tape to keep water out. When I took the foil off to inoculate there was water on the lid. But I am not sure if any got in.
Id post pics but I loaned my camera
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: TrippingStone]
#10634486 - 07/07/09 07:51 AM (4 months, 13 days ago) |
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If there was water on the lid, there's a good chance it got into the jars. I had the same thing happen with two of the jars in my first batch. Sure enough they were waterlogged and as a result got contaminated with bacteria. From now on I'll be weighing the jars prior to and after steaming to check for added water weight. Of course this can be avoided by making sure the jars are completely out of the water, and the boil doesn't get to the point that water is sloshing about violently.
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: noobieshroomie]
#10648690 - 07/09/09 05:32 PM (4 months, 11 days ago) |
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Good data
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: noobieshroomie]
#10734158 - 07/24/09 04:57 PM (3 months, 27 days ago) |
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great articles for the newcomers like me! Thanks, Nibin.
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: Lostkeys]
#10736453 - 07/25/09 01:17 AM (3 months, 26 days ago) |
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Is it just me or does anyone else end up paying like $200 for a setup that the instructions indicate should cost like $100? It's just that the little things tend to add up, and if you can't find some of the stuff in your city, you gotta order it and pay a nut for shipping. I think people should estimate a little higher for setups they advocate, especially if they implore users to use the same equipment/supplies.
That being said, it's absolutely amazing the volume of information that can be found in these forums and for everyone who has contributed a tek or advice, THANK YOU
You really make the magic possible for all of us beginners...throwin a good ol' fashioned loving trip right now
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: Frequenze]
#10784008 - 08/02/09 03:29 AM (3 months, 18 days ago) |
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Quote:
Frequenze said:
pay a nut for shipping.
Don't pay for shipping.
This is one of the reasons there are so many methods- people adapt the items they have around them.
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: Doc_T]
#10786475 - 08/02/09 03:38 PM (3 months, 18 days ago) |
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I'd like to add to this thread, that drinking a bit of liquor before glovebox procedures works wonders. I had heard about this for stilling your hands before shooting, but RR mentioned sipping a shot before glovebox/flowhood work, And yes, it seriously helps to still your hands. A little glass of good white rum with a tiny splash of fresh-squeezed grapefruit juice is my not-so-official drink before some glovebox work. ~Pixie~
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: Psuper]
#10788169 - 08/02/09 08:11 PM (3 months, 18 days ago) |
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Just like to say I think I've found a good place to kick it, haven't done anythin forumsfor acouple of years, but I just came across the curious world of shroom cultivation, read about it before, never tried it but am going for it in a few days...wish me luck...any advice is welcome....
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: Psuper]
#10788606 - 08/02/09 09:23 PM (3 months, 18 days ago) |
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Quote:
Psuper said:
I'd like to add to this thread, that drinking a bit of liquor before glovebox procedures works wonders. I had heard about this for stilling your hands before shooting, but RR mentioned sipping a shot before glovebox/flowhood work, And yes, it seriously helps to still your hands. A little glass of good white rum with a tiny splash of fresh-squeezed grapefruit juice is my not-so-official drink before some glovebox work. ~Pixie~
I use valium instead of liquor. Works great for me plus it helps quell my anxiety.
One word of advice, if you do glovebox work 3 or 4 separate times in one day don't pop a valium each time, I feel asleep at my desk with my arms still in the glovebox.
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: BlimeyGrimey]
#10788647 - 08/02/09 09:30 PM (3 months, 18 days ago) |
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One word of advice, if you do glovebox work 3 or 4 separate times in one day don't pop a valium each time, I feel asleep at my desk with my arms still in the glovebox.
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"To feel today what one felt yesterday isn't to feel - it's to remember today what was felt yesterday, to be today's living corpse of what yesterday was lived and lost." Fernando Pessoa
"I think we are blind. Blind people who can see, but do not see." José Saramago
"How can you prove whether at this moment we are sleeping, and all our thoughts are a dream; or whether we are awake, and talking to one another in the waking state?" Plato
"Cowards die many times before their deaths; the valiant never taste of death but once." William Shakespeare
"The foundation of empire is art and science. Remove them or degrade them, and the empire is no more. Empire follows art and not vice versa as Englishmen suppose." William Blake
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Christa88
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I am a first time grower. I have 12 half pint jars of B+ colonizing (they are about 70% colonized). Now this is gonna sound ridiculous (and it is), but my husband and I had a slight dispute, the jars were tossed in a paper bag, and aggressively hurled into the back of his pick up. Miraculously, only one jar broke and I gathered the rest and put them back on the shelf to finish colonizing. They were quite shaken. Does anyone know if they will be O.K.?
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AlexP
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Re: My Jars Got Shaken?? [Re: Christa88]
#10818353 - 08/07/09 03:26 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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If they don't contam they'll be ok don't worry. The only risk from it is having the dry verm layer disturbed but you should be ok! The mycelium takes a lot more beating than that. When we use grains, we shake at ~25% and then at full colonization. Shaking them real hard and hiting them aginst tires to break up the mycelium. Don't worry!
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"To feel today what one felt yesterday isn't to feel - it's to remember today what was felt yesterday, to be today's living corpse of what yesterday was lived and lost." Fernando Pessoa
"I think we are blind. Blind people who can see, but do not see." José Saramago
"How can you prove whether at this moment we are sleeping, and all our thoughts are a dream; or whether we are awake, and talking to one another in the waking state?" Plato
"Cowards die many times before their deaths; the valiant never taste of death but once." William Shakespeare
"The foundation of empire is art and science. Remove them or degrade them, and the empire is no more. Empire follows art and not vice versa as Englishmen suppose." William Blake
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Christa88
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Re: My Jars Got Shaken?? [Re: AlexP]
#10818718 - 08/07/09 04:18 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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Thanks, AlexP! I feel much better!!
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Lostkeys
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Re: My Jars Got Shaken?? [Re: Christa88]
#10819014 - 08/07/09 05:08 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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If anyone asks, just tell them your jars fell down some stairs...
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Till touch down brings me round again to find
I'm not the man they think i am at home
Oh no no no i'm a rocket man
Rocket man burning out his fuse up here alone"
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truskool
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Re: My Jars Got Shaken?? [Re: Lostkeys]
#10819044 - 08/07/09 05:14 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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Lostkeys said:
If anyone asks, just tell them your jars fell down some stairs...
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botanisthype
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: Nibin]
#10837998 - 08/11/09 06:29 AM (3 months, 9 days ago) |
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WOW..i havent logged back on this site since 05 ' and seems the teks never really strayed away from the old and true,..... great guide ,its just recapped all my loose ends.. since i magically had the urge to start growing again .....!!! hello to all the new members it looked like the community expanded vastly in comparison! .....
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cloudsaregathering
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: noobieshroomie]
#10841963 - 08/11/09 08:09 PM (3 months, 9 days ago) |
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Very nice many will benefit from this
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tryptaminion
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: noobieshroomie]
#10923782 - 08/23/09 11:31 PM (2 months, 27 days ago) |
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excellent guide, thanks.. helped me alot
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NoxNoctum
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: tryptaminion]
#10950517 - 08/27/09 07:27 PM (2 months, 24 days ago) |
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Hey guys I'm gonna be using grow bags measuring 18" H x 5.5" W x 4" D. and with 1 pound of substrate in them each. How many grams (roughly) of shrooms can I expect per flush if injected with 5cc of spore?
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Lostkeys
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: NoxNoctum]
#10950884 - 08/27/09 08:19 PM (2 months, 24 days ago) |
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