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Cyrone
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Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)?
#8957791 - 09/20/08 05:52 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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PLEASE, somebody tell me if this is true or not. This man, Riki, designs prints for LSD (great artwork, by the way). A video was added 2 days ago to youtube where he shares his knowledge...
His steps, while rough, seem to be this:
- buy a bunch of rye seed - "wet it down" (?) - wait a couple months for the mold to grow - scrape off the mold and put it (the mold) in 100% ethanol - slowly boil the liquid, a bit more than a "simmer" - eventually a thin film will form atop the liquid. This film is pure LSD and you have to be very careful when removing it.
Maybe someone will come here and confirm that this is BS. I could have sworn that "ergot" was the biggest component of synthesizing the compound. However, this guy looks very authentic, and if he created that artwork (that has not been layed with LSD yet) then it should mean something. If the video is taken off youtube, then IMO that means the technique is real, since a lot of videos have been "mysteriously" taken of youtube lately... tell me what you think.
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ExplosiveMango
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: Cyrone]
#8957930 - 09/20/08 07:38 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's complete bullshit.
Come on man, check your resources before you question such things.
Where would the ergot come from?
How would ethanol transmute the ergotamine into LSD? It's just a solvent.
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: ExplosiveMango]
#8957966 - 09/20/08 07:52 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ive heard of many strange lsd teks.
One I was taught years ago: Gather up wolfmother corn ergot (the corn that looks grey and like a brain). Dry the stuff out, and while wearing a mask and sterilized gloves chop up 28 dry grams of the stuff. Soak it in everclear in a large mason jar, store the stuff in the dark and shake it every couple of days. After a month: Discard ergot, filter the remaining extraction through a coffee filter, twice. Grind up HBWR seeds and combine them with the solution. Store in the dark for about a week. Filter again, twice, and put the results into centrifugal tubes. Run centrifuge, discard the top 75% of the solution.
I tried it with minor success. You needed about a 1/4 tsp to get a buzz, not a few mcgs.
Most of the "good" teks require chemistry knowledge, ET, other chemicals and fancy glassware, IMO.
Edited by MisterMuscaria (09/20/08 07:54 AM)
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ExplosiveMango
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: MisterMuscaria]
#8957977 - 09/20/08 07:59 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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You shouldn't be experimenting with dosing on ergotamine without knowing enough chemistry to confirm the invalidity of such simple teqs.
Please, for your own safety. Ergotamine is a powerful vasoconstrictor.
The last thing we need is allies dying because they didn't have the patience to study organic chemistry.
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: ExplosiveMango]
#8957978 - 09/20/08 08:00 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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ExplosiveMango said: You shouldn't be experimenting with dosing on ergotamine without knowing enough chemistry to confirm the invalidity of such simple teqs.
Please, for your own safety. Ergotamine is a powerful vasoconstrictor.
The last thing we need is allies dying because they didn't have the patience to study organic chemistry.
I wouldnt experiment with it now. I was about 16 at the time. Im still quite angry at the man who taught me that tek. He came up to me oneday, handed me a beer and asked me if I wanted to learn how to make acid. He was a 40+ year old man who was encouraging teenagers to eat raw ergot. This man CLAIMED to have been studying organic chemistry for 20 years or more. He chopped it up and gave myself and a few other kids small pieces of it. We couldve had our limbs rott and fall off or worse(died) because of him. I read up on st.anthony's fire(which he claimed was a hoax) and was terrified.
He was full of other misinformation too, claiming that any of us could pass a drug test with a drop of visine(benzalkonium chloride will show up as a false negative for THC, but you need more than a couple drops). He did have some dank white widow. I just dont know why people go around spreading dangerous misinformation like that.
Edited by MisterMuscaria (09/20/08 08:09 AM)
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ExplosiveMango
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: MisterMuscaria]
#8958001 - 09/20/08 08:08 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Fair enough, we were all 16 once.
I once ate lawnmower mushrooms believing they were psilocybe semilanceata.
I'm glad shroomery got to me.
How old are you now? Would you mind picking up a chemistry degree?
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: ExplosiveMango]
#8958008 - 09/20/08 08:12 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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ExplosiveMango said: Fair enough, we were all 16 once.
I once ate lawnmower mushrooms believing they were psilocybe semilanceata.
I'm glad shroomery got to me.
I once ate a bag of rotted wood chunks thinking they were mushrooms when I was about 15. I had actually had goldcaps before but assumed they were somekinda truffle. The things were hard as rocks and yielded no trip whatsover. Years later I had actual sclerotia which I tripped balls on. Im quite angry at that person too, or anyone that takes advantage of the naive.
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ExplosiveMango said: How old are you now? Would you mind picking up a chemistry degree?
Im 22, but considering I failed chemistry MISERABLY in highschool I dont think Id have a snowball's chance in hell of getting a chemistry degree. The stuff went WAY over my head. I had to retake 9th grade Integrated Chemistry Physics, which was very simiplified just because I had such a hard time understanding the chemistry aspect. Haha I honestly dont know why youd ask me of all people that question, Im as dumb as a sack of hammers when it comes to that stuff, and I even tried my hardest to understand it, read everything in the books 3 times over but it felt like I was reading a foreign language with no knowledge of that language.
Edited by MisterMuscaria (09/20/08 08:18 AM)
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: MisterMuscaria]
#8958017 - 09/20/08 08:16 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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MisterMuscaria said: Ive heard of many strange lsd teks.
Big Red and Oranges, FTW!
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: RoosterCogburn]
#8958127 - 09/20/08 09:01 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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someone is going to get hurt badly if they try this garbage.
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ExplosiveMango
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: MisterMuscaria]
#8958176 - 09/20/08 09:23 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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MisterMuscaria said: Haha I honestly dont know why youd ask me of all people that question, Im as dumb as a sack of hammers when it comes to that stuff, and I even tried my hardest to understand it, read everything in the books 3 times over but it felt like I was reading a foreign language with no knowledge of that language.
Well you might need to study some psych first, to help you understand how they made you believe this.
You may be as smart as me; but intelligence is an entirely interpersonal phenomena. Of course social constraints are hard to see around.
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: ExplosiveMango]
#8958958 - 09/20/08 01:36 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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ExplosiveMango said:
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MisterMuscaria said: Haha I honestly dont know why youd ask me of all people that question, Im as dumb as a sack of hammers when it comes to that stuff, and I even tried my hardest to understand it, read everything in the books 3 times over but it felt like I was reading a foreign language with no knowledge of that language.
Well you might need to study some psych first, to help you understand how they made you believe this.
You may be as smart as me; but intelligence is an entirely interpersonal phenomena. Of course social constraints are hard to see around.
Psychology was one of the few classes I did really well in. Id most like to go to college for experimental psychology, concentrating on the Jungian psychological model and use of Psychedellics in therapy(rather than be on the manufacturing end of it)
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Cyrone
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: MisterMuscaria]
#8971712 - 09/23/08 06:14 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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So, this is unanimously agreed to be bunk? Why would he say that? I looked it up and rye seed DOES produce ergot...
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: Cyrone]
#8971819 - 09/23/08 07:13 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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GreenGoat
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: 04281969]
#8972900 - 09/23/08 12:39 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ay dios mio! No... no this would not work...
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Tomandjerry58
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: GreenGoat]
#8973022 - 09/23/08 01:03 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/tihkal/tihkal26.shtml
the procedure doesn't look that hard... but the precursors are almost impossible to get these days for the non chemist...
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: GreenGoat]
#8973026 - 09/23/08 01:03 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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LOL, something biologically producing actual LSD would be a breakthrough, there is nothing living out there that produces LSD. PERIOD. And believe me, IF its created, you will NOT find it hanging on rye. It will be in somebodies lab.
And, LOL, boiling ethanol. Everyone forgets to mention doing this outside. Unless you want to shave with a fireball. DO NOT BREATH IT EITHER.
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: alkylbenzene23]
#8973074 - 09/23/08 01:13 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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alkylbenzene23 said: boiling ethanol.
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04281969
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: alkylbenzene23]
#8973081 - 09/23/08 01:14 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: 04281969]
#8973497 - 09/23/08 02:50 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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That person is wrong.
LSD is made from a very complex synthesis involving The fungus known as Ergot.
Rye Seeds do not grow ergot.
Mixing ergot with alchohol mearly results in a ergot alchohol solution.
There are many more steps and reactions in the process that take a very skilled lab trained chemist to perform.
Its not as easy as mixing rye mold in alchohol and boiling it.
The real way is more like the complex lab teks that you can find on the internet.
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: psikooz]
#8973532 - 09/23/08 02:56 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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i think the method in the video would work, had it not been totally incorrect.
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: anyone420]
#8973587 - 09/23/08 03:05 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Lysergic acid requires dimethyl Ether, a separation funnel. an organic solvent, a decent a mount of ergot, and chemistry far beyond boiling some alcohol.
There's a few ingredients I left out but you get the idea. This tek is completely fake. Obviously.
If someone has the real recipe they aren't just gonna post it online for the world to see. They're gonna make about 20 gallons and life off the profit for the rest of their lives.
And if the world's lucky they'll pass their lab and knowledge on to someone when they're done.
Shulgin was at burning man one year with a black board. He filled in the starting and ending chemicals and let people passing by fill in the rest of the ingredients and processes. He said at the end of the event that he was surprised at how many people really did know what they were talking about.
The answers you seek are out there. Unfortunately Google won't help you on this one.
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: mushroomtip]
#8973637 - 09/23/08 03:17 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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google this "fester lsd"
either buy the book or take the torrent the synthesis is very very difficult.
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: anyone420]
#8973993 - 09/23/08 04:23 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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if it was that easy to make lsd here would be so many people making it, acid would be everywhere and no one would have a problem finding it.
the guy in that video is an idiot. he seems a lil drunk to me.
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RBS
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: PilzeEssen]
#8974011 - 09/23/08 04:27 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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If I took, College Chemistry 1 and 2, College Organic Chemistry 1 and 2, would that be sufficient knowledge to go ahead and produce LSD "if" i were able to gather all the right chemicals and had lab equipment?
Or is there further study required beyond these courses?
-RBS
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redgreenvines
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: RBS]
#8974091 - 09/23/08 04:47 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Organic Chemistry 1 and 2 with fester's tech would do it.
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: redgreenvines]
#8974124 - 09/23/08 04:57 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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uugghhh...
That is the most fucking annoying person I've seen in a long time...
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: MisterMuscaria]
#8974202 - 09/23/08 05:20 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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A snowball's chance in hell, I like that.
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: redgreenvines]
#8974261 - 09/23/08 05:30 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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redgreenvines said: Organic Chemistry 1 and 2 with fester's tech would do it.
Depending on which you followed. Fester puts in all sorts of minor errors or incomplete procedures (accidentally? intentially? who knows).
You're better off either following Shulgin's route with POCl3, or Hardison's with PyPOB.
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: Entropymancer]
#8974272 - 09/23/08 05:33 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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That guy has to be one of the most annoying people ever. I wonder how many kids are going to get sick from trying this?
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: RBS]
#8974301 - 09/23/08 05:40 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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RBS said: If I took, College Chemistry 1 and 2, College Organic Chemistry 1 and 2, would that be sufficient knowledge to go ahead and produce LSD "if" i were able to gather all the right chemicals and had lab equipment?
Or is there further study required beyond these courses?
-RBS
http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/tihkal/tihkal26.shtml
If you feel comfortable in a lab and can get the precursor I don't think you'd have too much problem with that. It's something I imagine you'd need some practice with if you've never synthesized anything that complicated.
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: anyone420]
#8974320 - 09/23/08 05:44 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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That' gotta be the dumbest shit I've heard in 15 years. My friend inhaling a nitro speed kit was dumber, but this is close!!
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: twenty three]
#8974321 - 09/23/08 05:44 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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twenty three said:
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RBS said: If I took, College Chemistry 1 and 2, College Organic Chemistry 1 and 2, would that be sufficient knowledge to go ahead and produce LSD "if" i were able to gather all the right chemicals and had lab equipment?
Or is there further study required beyond these courses?
-RBS
http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/tihkal/tihkal26.shtml
If you feel comfortable in a lab and can get the precursor I don't think you'd have too much problem with that. It's something I imagine you'd need some practice with if you've never synthesized anything that complicated.
Yep, it's straightforward, just highly illegal.
The other good option (if you have access to peptide coupling agents) is Hardison's with PyPOB: http://psychedelichosting.info/Ionium/Rhodium/chemistry/lsd.pybop.hardison.html
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: alkylbenzene23]
#8974971 - 09/23/08 07:42 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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alkylbenzene23 said: LOL, something biologically producing actual LSD would be a breakthrough, there is nothing living out there that produces LSD.
Actually, I think the interesting thing is that it is possible that there is an organism out there that produces LSD. It's really not that far fetched, considering how many closely related compounds are synthesized by living organisms.
You are right though, as far as we know, no plant, bacterium, etc. produces LSD.
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: mushroomtip]
#8975046 - 09/23/08 07:52 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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mushroomtip said: Lysergic acid requires dimethyl Ether, a separation funnel. an organic solvent, a decent a mount of ergot, and chemistry far beyond boiling some alcohol.
Not quite. I don't think you need dimethyl ether, though that would qualify as an organic solvent, so you could use it as that. I think the Sandoz patent uses diethyl ether, but I could be wrong. There is a step requiring an organic solvent of course.
I think that the claim that an LSD synthesis is an example of chemistry "far" beyond boiling alcohol is, at least, arguable (because there is a lot of chemistry which is 'far' beyond an LSD synthesis). An LSD synthesis from raw ergot is a relatively simple process, involving very simple processes such as refluxing, column chromatography and stirring.
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If someone has the real recipe they aren't just gonna post it online for the world to see.
Why not? You can easily find the "recipe" online at websites offering free patents. You can find the synthesis in chemistry journals online and in libraries. Some organic chemistry textbooks even include the LSD synthesis as a problem to work. I've seen a number of teks posted, including one which I put together from various patents and found was almost identical to another tek someone had posted years before.
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And if the world's lucky they'll pass their lab and knowledge on to someone when they're done.
A number of different processes for synthesizing LSD are published and are very easy to find.
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The answers you seek are out there. Unfortunately Google won't help you on this one.
If you search google for "LSD synthesis" you will find a link to TIHKAL, so, Google will help. Google Scholar produces even more bona fide results.
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: RBS]
#8975056 - 09/23/08 07:54 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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RBS said: If I took, College Chemistry 1 and 2, College Organic Chemistry 1 and 2, would that be sufficient knowledge to go ahead and produce LSD "if" i were able to gather all the right chemicals and had lab equipment?
Or is there further study required beyond these courses?
-RBS
IMO, a very competent 3rd year chemistry student could easily read and completely understand the LSD synthesis. Contrary to popular belief, it's a very simple process.
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: Plasmid]
#8977158 - 09/24/08 06:30 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Plasmid said: Contrary to popular belief, it's a very simple process.
Sounds simple!
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: RoosterCogburn]
#8977435 - 09/24/08 08:19 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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How hard would it be to obtain the precursors and not tip anyone off?
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alkylbenzene23
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: RoosterCogburn]
#8977481 - 09/24/08 08:32 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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RoosterCogburn said:
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alkylbenzene23 said: boiling ethanol.
I was looking for that, but could not find it!
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04281969
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: Plasmid]
#8977510 - 09/24/08 08:43 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Plasmid said: I've seen a number of teks posted, including one which I put together from various patents and found was almost identical to another tek someone had posted years before.
Link?
Is your tek compiled from your experiences, or completely theoretical? Would you ever consider shooting a video "for dummies"? Maybe you could shoot it in a country where the laws do not forbid its production. Or at least one that won't extradite. I think selling the video here would be legal. Actually, you might even be able to write off the trip as a business expense.
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Tomandjerry58
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: krypto2000]
#8977516 - 09/24/08 08:45 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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krypto2000 said: How hard would it be to obtain the precursors and not tip anyone off?
i would say extremley difficult for the non chemist... i think its a good thing becuase if it was out there for everyone ...people would be over doseing everywhere.
The average dose is 100 to 250 microgram. Thats a 100th of a miligram... im not even sure you could weigh that..
so 1 gram would be almost 10000 doses....seems kind of dangerous for the amatuer chemist huh?
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krypto2000 said: How hard would it be to obtain the precursors and not tip anyone off?
The precursors would be a lot harder than the raw chemicals. None of the chemicals are truly controlled (you may need to be a legitimate company to purchase them). However, ordering them all at the same time will likely a red flag. There are legitimate reactions that will leave excess of the reactions you need. Do them, and then you can synth.
PS: The knowledge to synth LSD is in First+Second semester General chemistry + LAB, and Organic chemistry. However, this is for SMART people. Sorry to say it, if you have issues with chemistry I wouldn't try it.
PPS: You can also perform other reactions that let you practice what you need to do in a much safer+safer+safer(you get the point +cheaper environment. A lot of the chemicals involved in LSD synthesis, at least in the TIHKAL synthesis are strong oxidizers which would severely burn you if they made contact with your skin. TIHKAL also leaves out common chemistry knowladge, and just the core information needed. He does not tell about cleaning beakers/fleakers/flasks. All this information is needed.
This type of stuff is why there has traditionally only been a select dozen or so people who have synthesized LSD in any significant quantity.
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: alkylbenzene23]
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^ He's right. Making LSD isn't like brewing ayahuasca--it's a lot easier to blow yourself up or end up in jail.
If you're really interested though I'd suggest growing a culture of ergot and extracting to alkaloids. Ergot-infected grain can be found in most wild fields, and if you think you can make LSD the extraction should be kids stuff for you.
Check out
here http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/6607718/page/0/fpart/1/vc/1
and here http://www.erowid.org/plants/ergot/ergot_cultivation1.shtml
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: Tomandjerry58]
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krypto2000 said: How hard would it be to obtain the precursors and not tip anyone off?
i would say extremley difficult for the non chemist... i think its a good thing becuase if it was out there for everyone ...people would be over doseing everywhere.
The average dose is 100 to 250 microgram. Thats a 100th of a miligram... im not even sure you could weigh that..
so 1 gram would be almost 10000 doses....seems kind of dangerous for the amatuer chemist huh?
No I agree, I'm certainly not trying to make any myself, just curious how hard it is if you have the knowledge. If you knew what you needed is it really that hard to obtain?
edit: n/m, didn't realize there was a 3rd page at the time of posting this. My question has been answered.
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: Tomandjerry58]
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krypto2000 said: How hard would it be to obtain the precursors and not tip anyone off?
i would say extremley difficult for the non chemist... i think its a good thing becuase if it was out there for everyone ...people would be over doseing everywhere.
The average dose is 100 to 250 microgram. Thats a 100th of a miligram... im not even sure you could weigh that..
so 1 gram would be almost 10000 doses....seems kind of dangerous for the amatuer chemist huh?
Dude, 250 micrograms is a quarter of a milligram.
And obviously it's hard and dangerous if you're not a chemist. Building a bridge is hard and dangerous if you're not a civil engineer, etc. But there's nothing overly fancy, to a professional, about the LSD synthesis.
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: isaacein]
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Plasmid said: Contrary to popular belief, it's a very simple process.
Sounds simple!
I know you're being sarcastic, but Plasmid is right. It is a very simple process; a couple of years of college chemistry gives you all the skills you need to pull it off. The difficulty is getting the precursors (and the investment in lab equipment, but even that would only be ~$1000)
No matter what you may have heard, it's quite simple and straightforward. Just read Shulgin's recipe from TiHKAL. If you can get past the language barrier (which is simply a matter of looking up the words you don't know), it's not a difficult process. It's just very very illegal and not worth the risk for the average person.
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Would you ever consider shooting a video "for dummies"?
It's really not necessary. Anyone who has the skills to perform this synthesis safely should have no problem understanding the published syntheses without a video tutorial.
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: Entropymancer]
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It is a very simple process; a couple of years of college chemistry gives you all the skills you need to pull it off.
And what is simple about a few years of college chemistry? That statement makes no sense... Simple means anyone can do it quite easily with nothing special.
Growing mushrooms is SIMPLE.
Synthing LSD is not.
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: RoosterCogburn]
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It is a very simple process; a couple of years of college chemistry gives you all the skills you need to pull it off.
And what is simple about a few years of college chemistry? That statement makes no sense... Simple means anyone can do it quite easily with nothing special.
A little bit of diligent self-education without college will provide you with the same set of skills; college chemistry (which anyone should be able to pass) is simply the common way to gain these skills.
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Growing mushrooms is SIMPLE.
Synthing LSD is not.
Do you understand how to synthesize LSD? What's complicated about it? Certainly it's not as simple as growing mushrooms; but that doesn't automatically mean that it is difficult.
I'm really not sure what people think is so difficult and complicated about synthesizing LSD.
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: Entropymancer]
#8978239 - 09/24/08 12:40 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Everything is simple with the right knowledge. Everything is complicated with the lack of knowledge. I'd say driving a car is simple but my 6yr old nephew probably wouldn't think so. It's all relative. It's just a matter of semantics.
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: krypto2000]
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Eh, I'd say even with the proper knowledge synthesizing LSD in considerably more difficult than driving a car. But it's definitely not something that only a handful of people are capable of.
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: twenty three]
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twenty three said: If you're really interested though I'd suggest growing a culture of ergot and extracting to alkaloids. Ergot-infected grain can be found in most wild fields, and if you think you can make LSD the extraction should be kids stuff for you.
Only a very small handful of cultivars of ergot (Claviceps purpurea) will produce ergot alkaloids in culture. Growing a culture of ergot is not tremendously difficult; the difficulty would be in finding a cultivar that will accomplish what you desire.
Someone taking this route would be well-advised to consider Claviceps paspali instead; paspalic acid can be isomerized to lysergic acid via a tert-alkylammonium hydroxide
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: twenty three]
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Eh, I'd say even with the proper knowledge synthesizing LSD in considerably more difficult than driving a car.
That depends. For me, its easier to learn how to synth LSD than it is to learn drive a car. Driving a car requires complex actions of the limbs, senses and mind and a continuous dealing with unanticipated situations.
Synthing LSD however involves the handling of predictably reacting chemicals using the proper labware, and using a synthesis "recipe" which really tells you all you need for the reaction. The background information is textbook google stuff.
You do one thing at a time on a benchtop setup. To me, that in no way is as difficult as learning to drive would be. You're not doing ten things at once in an unpredictable, changing environment - just one thing to focus on, and doing it meticulously as instructed.
Synthesizing LSD can be as simple as taking a test tube with lysergic acid chloride, pouring diethylamine in, stoppering and shaking vigorously, letting it sit for an hour, removing the stopper and evaporating to dryness
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: 04281969]
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Plasmid said: I've seen a number of teks posted, including one which I put together from various patents and found was almost identical to another tek someone had posted years before.
Link?
The first post in the following thread is very similar to mine. I don't bother suggesting the use of colored lights and I don't bother with describing ergot cultivation.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6225737#6225737
My tek was based on the following:
GB Patent 463936. The Preparation of Lysergic Acid Hydrazide. April 8, 1937. GB Patent 579484. Process for the Preparation of Diethylamide of d-Lysergic Acid. August 6, 1946. GB Patent 788416. Process for the Resolution and Recovery in the Pure State of Hydrazides and Amides of DL-Lysergic Acid or DL-Isolysergic Acid. January 2, 1958. Garbrecht, WL. Synthesis of Amides of Lysergic Acid. Journal of Organic Chemistry. 24, pp. 368 - 372. (1959)
I'll repost the tek if you want, but I'm not going to bother searching the web to provide you with a link. If you don't want to believe me, I don't give a shit.
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Is your tek compiled from your experiences, or completely theoretical?
Now that is a stupid question because you've quoted the answer to the question before asking the question. As I said, it was "put together from various patents."
If I had synthesized LSD, most likely, it would have been illegally, so I certainly would not admit to it. On the other hand, as I am a chemist it's possible that I have legally manufactured it, but I also wouldn't admit it in that case because I'd be worried about giving away my identity (as I doubt that many people are given exemptions and allowed to actually manufacture LSD). [quote[Would you ever consider shooting a video "for dummies"?
I would do it if I were paid for it, but reading the tek should suffice.
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Maybe you could shoot it in a country where the laws do not forbid its production.
Ummm, if I did this, I wouldn't actually have to make LSD. The video would be pointless, because all I'd be doing is showing you how to mix two things together and leave them stirring on a hotplate; or how to run simple alumina columns and check for elution with UV light.
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I think selling the video here would be legal.
It's also a great way to take advantage of people who are too fucking lazy to read a simple tek and look up the word "reflux."
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: alkylbenzene23]
#8980081 - 09/24/08 06:17 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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alkylbenzene23 said: PS: The knowledge to synth LSD is in First+Second semester General chemistry + LAB, and Organic chemistry. However, this is for SMART people.
While I certainly would especially recommend that a stupid person avoid trying to synthesize LSD, you're verging on spreading the typical LSD synth myth ("you need a PhD in orgo, $20000 in lab equipment and . . ."). Hang around a bunch of chemists for a while and you'll notice that usually organic chemists are jokingly referred to as being the dumb chemists, because organic chemistry is relatively simply. Then read a few LSD syntheses and explain to me why you have to be smart to properly boil the contents of a flask.
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He does not tell about cleaning beakers/fleakers/flasks. All this information is needed.
I'll tell you what I do to clean stuff at the end of the day: if working with organic chemicals, start with soapy water and clean whatever you worked with, then dH2O, then rinse with acetone.
Shulgin doesn't skip any more steps in TIHKAL than any published synthesis would. Yes, these syntheses are written for chemists, but, he shouldn't have to tell you how to clean glassware.
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This type of stuff is why there has traditionally only been a select dozen or so people who have synthesized LSD in any significant quantity.
I don't believe it. I don't know whether or not it's true that only "a select dozen or so" have actually synthesized LSD in significant quantity is true and I'm not sure why you think it's true (though I've heard that before). I consider the question of why LSD isn't everywhere to be baffling.
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: Entropymancer]
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twenty three said: If you're really interested though I'd suggest growing a culture of ergot and extracting to alkaloids. Ergot-infected grain can be found in most wild fields, and if you think you can make LSD the extraction should be kids stuff for you.
Only a very small handful of cultivars of ergot (Claviceps purpurea) will produce ergot alkaloids in culture. Growing a culture of ergot is not tremendously difficult; the difficulty would be in finding a cultivar that will accomplish what you desire.
Someone taking this route would be well-advised to consider Claviceps paspali instead; paspalic acid can be isomerized to lysergic acid via a tert-alkylammonium hydroxide
the tricky part would be isolating a pure culture, but I suppose that's what you meant by finding a cultivar. paspali is a good strain, and dallisgrass is everywhere. problem is, not only does claviceps paspali contain lysergic acid amide, but also a slew of other ergolines like elymoclavine. preparative LC (liquid chromatography, not liquid culture) would be a feasible solution to this
i suppose the other tricky part is preventing isomerization during the actual synthesis. chirality is very pertinent in lsd synthesis, as only one of the four stereoisomers is active.
a photo darkroom would be an ideal location to 'develop prints'
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: Plasmid]
#8981052 - 09/24/08 09:24 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Once again, thanks Plasmid for bringing some sense into this thread. I can't believe you don't have a higher rating
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: piracetam]
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piracetam said: problem is, not only does claviceps paspali contain lysergic acid amide, but also a slew of other ergolines like elymoclavine.
This doesn't have to be a problem. While the clavines are not suitable as starting materials for the original synthesis, ergopeptides and related ergotamines (so long as they have the lysergic acid moiety) can be used because they are all cleaved at the same place by hydrazine (as you probably know, in the ergopeptides, for example, the cyclic peptides are cleaved at the amide bond linking them to the lysergic acid moiety and the desired product, lysergic acid hydrazide, is produced in good yield). Clearly, different syntheses will require different starting materials.
I think that yield of ergot alkaloids may be a big stumbling block. Manufactures of ergot alkaloid derivatives (many are used in medicine and research) tend to use strains which have been specially selected for producing high yields of suitable starting materials. A strain which one finds in a field might end up producing frustrating low amounts of starting material (good thing LSD is potent).
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i suppose the other tricky part is preventing isomerization during the actual synthesis.
Given LSD's potency, personally I'd be willing to give up stereoselectivity for simplicity. The hydrazide-diethylamide route gives an equal (IIRC) mixture of four isomers of LSD: D-isoLSD, L-isoLSD, D-LSD and L-LSD. The L forms are useless as they are not active and can not be interconverted with the D forms (I think this is due to isomerization at C5). However, D-iso-LSD and D-LSD exist in an equilibrium of 1:9 respectively in water, so D-iso-LSD can be converted to d-LSD. 50% of the lysergic acid bearing precursors are lost by the hydrazine-diethylamine method. Stereospecific syntheses of LSD do indeed exist which do not suffer from these problems.
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chirality is very pertinent in lsd synthesis, as only one of the four stereoisomers is active.
Yup, but just bear in mind that pure D-iso-LSD can be converted to 90% D-LSD (and then the remaining 10% can be converted and so forth and then stabilized before given a chance to interconvert - the interconversion is, IIRC, covered in an early Sandoz patent). There is also a method which allows 98% conversion in one step (Clarkson et al., 1998).
Clarkson, ED., Lesser, D., and Paul, BD. Effective GC-MS procedure for detecting iso-LSD in urine after base-catalyzed conversion to LSD. Clinical Chemistry. 44, pp. 287 - 292. (1998)
Stoll, A. Recent Investigations on Ergot Alkaloids. Chemical Reviews. 47, pp. 197 - 218. (1950)
Zi, L., McNally, AJ., Wang, H., and Salamone, SJ. Stability study of LSD under various storage conditions. J Anal Toxicol. 22, pp. 520 - 525. (1998)
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: Plasmid]
#8982349 - 09/25/08 01:18 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Lsd is as easy as one two three...
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: RoosterCogburn]
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It is a very simple process; a couple of years of college chemistry gives you all the skills you need to pull it off.
And what is simple about a few years of college chemistry? That statement makes no sense... Simple means anyone can do it quite easily with nothing special.
Growing mushrooms is SIMPLE.
Synthing LSD is not.
Growing mushrooms is simple if you have an IQ above that of a grapefruit, and common sense.
Synthesizing LSD, requires experience and knowledge of working around chemicals. It also requires a decent IQ, TIME, TIME, more TIME, along with the ability to think ahead on what to do if you screw up each step.
I haven't looked up the reactions of each step, but The only one which could be particularly dangerous from the looks of it is the one where you add the reagents drop by drop. This is generally done so things A) Don't heat up to quickly B) Have time to mix thought the mixture C) React completely before continuing (Ex, a titration) That is All I can think of at the moment.
Oh, and if you don't know what a titration is, I even consider trying to synth LSD without actually going through real courses.
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: Cyrone]
#8984761 - 09/25/08 02:52 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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lol why would you even ask this question.
The guy in this video is obviously drunk or high. Also do you really think you can boil some mold in alcohol and get LSD?
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: Cyrone]
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: unretarded]
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Plasmid said: I've seen a number of teks posted, including one which I put together from various patents and found was almost identical to another tek someone had posted years before.
Link?
The first post in the following thread is very similar to mine. I don't bother suggesting the use of colored lights and I don't bother with describing ergot cultivation.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6225737#6225737
My tek was based on the following:
GB Patent 463936. The Preparation of Lysergic Acid Hydrazide. April 8, 1937. GB Patent 579484. Process for the Preparation of Diethylamide of d-Lysergic Acid. August 6, 1946. GB Patent 788416. Process for the Resolution and Recovery in the Pure State of Hydrazides and Amides of DL-Lysergic Acid or DL-Isolysergic Acid. January 2, 1958. Garbrecht, WL. Synthesis of Amides of Lysergic Acid. Journal of Organic Chemistry. 24, pp. 368 - 372. (1959)
I'll repost the tek if you want, but I'm not going to bother searching the web to provide you with a link. If you don't want to believe me, I don't give a shit.
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Is your tek compiled from your experiences, or completely theoretical?
Now that is a stupid question because you've quoted the answer to the question before asking the question. As I said, it was "put together from various patents."
If I had synthesized LSD, most likely, it would have been illegally, so I certainly would not admit to it. On the other hand, as I am a chemist it's possible that I have legally manufactured it, but I also wouldn't admit it in that case because I'd be worried about giving away my identity (as I doubt that many people are given exemptions and allowed to actually manufacture LSD). [quote[Would you ever consider shooting a video "for dummies"?
I would do it if I were paid for it, but reading the tek should suffice.
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Maybe you could shoot it in a country where the laws do not forbid its production.
Ummm, if I did this, I wouldn't actually have to make LSD. The video would be pointless, because all I'd be doing is showing you how to mix two things together and leave them stirring on a hotplate; or how to run simple alumina columns and check for elution with UV light.
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I think selling the video here would be legal.
It's also a great way to take advantage of people who are too fucking lazy to read a simple tek and look up the word "reflux."
I realize this is months old, but I didn't go back to read it before it got bumped. (Thanks for that final word on the subject, BTW.)
I was merely asking for a link to your TEK if you had one handy. I wasn't questioning the actual existence of it. Are you paranoid?
An "I've seen it done" would suffice.
I was suggesting a video produced somewhere legally, for sale in parts where the manufacture was illegal. (Using the elements available in the parts where the video was inteded for sale.)
Taking advantage of the lazy or stupid is the American Way. Do you really think we need a clapper to turn out the light?
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: ExplosiveMango]
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I am 26 now and i started learning about drugs at ten, at ten i looked up stuff about drugs on the internet for about 4 hours a day and i did that until i was 18 so i new a lot about drugs ,all drugs but then when i turned 19 i got into collage and learned many things about drugs, in collage i learned a lot about chemistry and growing things and just about all drugs and like i said i am 26 now and i know a lot about drug's pretty much almost everything so if anybody ever needs information i will tell you so ya.
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: shroomie_glen]
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hits in my mouth...
LOL I don't remember writing this.. but I think I might have been high on lsd when I did..lol
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teethinmybuthole said: I am 26 now and i started learning about drugs at ten, at ten i looked up stuff about drugs on the internet for about 4 hours a day and i did that until i was 18 so i new a lot about drugs ,all drugs but then when i turned 19 i got into collage and learned many things about drugs, in collage i learned a lot about chemistry and growing things and just about all drugs and like i said i am 26 now and i know a lot about drug's pretty much almost everything so if anybody ever needs information i will tell you so ya.
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AcidStrippedMind said: I guess English wasn't your major?
I find it hard to take someone who claims to know everything about drugs, and says this, seriously
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: LuSiD9]
#15704073 - 01/22/12 08:12 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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LuSiD9 said:
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teethinmybuthole said: I am 26 now and i started learning about drugs at ten, at ten i looked up stuff about drugs on the internet for about 4 hours a day and i did that until i was 18 so i new a lot about drugs ,all drugs but then when i turned 19 i got into collage and learned many things about drugs, in collage i learned a lot about chemistry and growing things and just about all drugs and like i said i am 26 now and i know a lot about drug's pretty much almost everything so if anybody ever needs information i will tell you so ya.
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AcidStrippedMind said: I guess English wasn't your major?
I find it hard to take someone who claims to know everything about drugs, and says this, seriously
Thread was closed, but thankfully, I have it quoted in the rating I left him
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Ok i will tell you what is the truth you can do it it does work what you do is this get a orange take the peel smear colgate total toothpaste all over the orange peel let it sit in a humid place for about 4 weeks then you take the mold that has grown on it and you eat it and you will trip for about 2 hours its like being on ecstasy,acid,magic mushroom's,and coke for 2 hours its awesome and if your wondering why people just don't use that instead of buying acid is because a lot of the people who make acid put the mold from the orange peel and toothpaste in the acid because its a lot cheaper and a lot easier to get than the ergot fungus which only grows in like a couple places on the earth and why people just don't do the orange peel thing instead of buying acid is because they think it wont work so they don't try it so trust me it will work and if it doesn't you did something wrong,so ya put a layre that's about 2 inches thick on the white part of the orange peel put in humid place let it sit for about 4 weeks and then take the mold off of the peel and then eat it.
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what do you mean by homework i know more about this stuff than you do i have been studying stuff since i was 10 and now i a 26 that's 16 years actually i teach collage about this stuff ask me anything and i will tell you anything about drugs any drug.
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LuSiD9
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: drr]
#15704147 - 01/22/12 08:25 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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drr said:
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LuSiD9 said:
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teethinmybuthole said: I am 26 now and i started learning about drugs at ten, at ten i looked up stuff about drugs on the internet for about 4 hours a day and i did that until i was 18 so i new a lot about drugs ,all drugs but then when i turned 19 i got into collage and learned many things about drugs, in collage i learned a lot about chemistry and growing things and just about all drugs and like i said i am 26 now and i know a lot about drug's pretty much almost everything so if anybody ever needs information i will tell you so ya.
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AcidStrippedMind said: I guess English wasn't your major?
I find it hard to take someone who claims to know everything about drugs, and says this, seriously
Thread was closed, but thankfully, I have it quoted in the rating I left him
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Ok i will tell you what is the truth you can do it it does work what you do is this get a orange take the peel smear colgate total toothpaste all over the orange peel let it sit in a humid place for about 4 weeks then you take the mold that has grown on it and you eat it and you will trip for about 2 hours its like being on ecstasy,acid,magic mushroom's,and coke for 2 hours its awesome and if your wondering why people just don't use that instead of buying acid is because a lot of the people who make acid put the mold from the orange peel and toothpaste in the acid because its a lot cheaper and a lot easier to get than the ergot fungus which only grows in like a couple places on the earth and why people just don't do the orange peel thing instead of buying acid is because they think it wont work so they don't try it so trust me it will work and if it doesn't you did something wrong,so ya put a layre that's about 2 inches thick on the white part of the orange peel put in humid place let it sit for about 4 weeks and then take the mold off of the peel and then eat it.
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what do you mean by homework i know more about this stuff than you do i have been studying stuff since i was 10 and now i a 26 that's 16 years actually i teach collage about this stuff ask me anything and i will tell you javascript:void(0)anything about drugs any drug.
fuck I LOL'D
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: LuSiD9]
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Lol. despite all the hopes dreams and question... THERE WILL NEVER BE AN EASY WAY TO DOSES.... People... Unless you either know someone who will teach you or you wanna go and get some good education on chemistry and want to devote your life to it... ya aint gonna make no fuckin acid...
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joemolloy
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Re: Video on how to make LSD (new, easy tek)? [Re: teethinmybuthole] 1
#15707900 - 01/23/12 05:07 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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teethinmybuthole said: I am 26 now and i started learning about drugs at ten, at ten i looked up stuff about drugs on the internet for about 4 hours a day and i did that until i was 18 so i new a lot about drugs ,all drugs but then when i turned 19 i got into collage and learned many things about drugs, in collage i learned a lot about chemistry and growing things and just about all drugs and like i said i am 26 now and i know a lot about drug's pretty much almost everything so if anybody ever needs information i will tell you so ya.
Damn. You are my hero. According to your other thread, not only were you an LSD and meth chemist at age 12, but you have managed to do these great things with the spelling and grammar of a 3rd grader. I suspect your reading comprehension skills must be impeccable though because you spent four hours a day for a decade reading and learning about how to make these drugs. Bravo. I'm sure you have some pure product that you spread around at your school, Clown Town University.
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