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Why doesn't Salvia work on me?
    #8891877 - 09/07/08 04:51 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

I've been carrying around this vile of Salvia I picked up a month ago and have shared it with several people since.

Everyone I've given some to receives an intense world-shattering experience.

I can NEVER get it to work on me. Used it in a bong, bubbler, pipe...

And it seems to never work.

Any ideas on what's up? I feel as if I'm not meant to have such an experience yet.


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Re: Why doesn't Salvia work on me? [Re: mathewww]
    #8891881 - 09/07/08 04:53 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

get the higher extracts


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Re: Why doesn't Salvia work on me? [Re: mathewww]
    #8891886 - 09/07/08 04:53 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

it took me about 10x 2 breakthrough
u need 20x at least
a bong
a lighter
pack the bowl to the brim
lite the salvy str8 up, so the flame is directly on it
milk that shit heavily
hold in a long time
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Re: Why doesn't Salvia work on me? (moved) [Re: mathewww]
    #8891932 - 09/07/08 05:03 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

This thread was moved from The Pub.

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moving to the proper forum

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Re: Why doesn't Salvia work on me? (moved) [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #8892117 - 09/07/08 05:35 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

It's 40x.

Is it better to burn on some bud or alone?


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Re: Why doesn't Salvia work on me? (moved) [Re: mathewww]
    #8892128 - 09/07/08 05:38 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

If you're smoking it properly and if it's indeed Salvia and not a ripoff, it may be that you're immune to Salvia's effects. Yes there are people on who Salvia just doesn't work.


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Re: Why doesn't Salvia work on me? (moved) [Re: ROX]
    #8892193 - 09/07/08 05:51 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

my borther is the same way. this one time we were smoking salvia, and i was super fucked up, and he said that he just "felt weird".

you should also keep in mind how short salvia lasts. you might just feel a little something and then its gone.

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Re: Why doesn't Salvia work on me? (moved) [Re: ManAbradesStars]
    #8892206 - 09/07/08 05:54 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

it lasts 6 minutes, that should be plenty of time to realize somethins up, and usually its not too hard to tell if somethings up on salvia lol

i guess u just have a high tolerance for it


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Re: Why doesn't Salvia work on me? (moved) [Re: TheAxis]
    #8892223 - 09/07/08 05:57 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Some people, about 1/5 of everyone is immune to salvia's effects.
Ive met about 5 different people who I smoked salvia with, and they hit it right and felt nothing. Some people just have brain chemistry that isnt compatible with it.

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Re: Why doesn't Salvia work on me? (moved) [Re: TheAxis]
    #8892229 - 09/07/08 05:59 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

It's 40x, bought it from a smoke shop.

I definitely feel a slight 'displacement' and euphoria for about 5 minutes but no 'trip'. I'm always still very in touch with reality.


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Re: Why doesn't Salvia work on me? (moved) [Re: mathewww]
    #8892231 - 09/07/08 06:00 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

It's something I really want to experience.


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Re: Why doesn't Salvia work on me? (moved) [Re: mathewww]
    #8892233 - 09/07/08 06:01 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

mathewww said:
It's something I really want to experience.




Well, hate to burst your bubble, but certain people, no matter what the potency and amount, will never be able to trip. Its not even a fun trip anyway. Try DMT.

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Re: Why doesn't Salvia work on me? (moved) [Re: mathewww]
    #8892245 - 09/07/08 06:03 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

mathewww said:
It's something I really want to experience.




When you smoke it, how are you smoking it?


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Re: Why doesn't Salvia work on me? (moved) [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #8892261 - 09/07/08 06:07 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Some people have pretty intense tolerance to the effects.  They smoke a completely active dose, but almost nothing happens subjectively.  Some of these people eventually have a breakthrough and experience the effects, others may never break through.  If you've tried smoking 40x a dozen or more times with no effects, I don't know what to tell you.  I can get near-amnesiac state with plain leaf, 6x is the highest I'd ever need.

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MisterMuscaria said:
Try DMT.




I'll second that.  After trying it, I've had several friends comment "That's what salvia ought to be like", or "That reminds me of salvia kind of, if only salvia didn't suck balls."

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Re: Why doesn't Salvia work on me? (moved) [Re: Entropymancer]
    #8892533 - 09/07/08 06:58 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

its all personality, history, drug history, and brain chemistry.

I get fat visuals from one hit of NON-extract(leaf).

Its fucking amazing.  No pins and needles like alot of people experience. 
 
So even some of those who feel it strongly dont experience what I do.

  In place of pins and needles, I feel colored synesthesia infused geometries crawling all over/inside and outside my body.

  I think, for me its one of the most amazing and undefinable psychedelics out there.


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Re: Why doesn't Salvia work on me? (moved) [Re: yageman]
    #8892846 - 09/07/08 07:54 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, I'm guessing you just don't have the brain chemistry for it...I broke through on my second time trying it, with 20x...

First time was with 10x, and I only had a weird high, like you describe. Just felt weird for like 5 or 10 minutes.

Second time, 20X, I held that shit in forever, took a massive rip out of a big bowl from a bong. Took about 30secs to peak. It felt like my body opened itself up into a 2d structure. It was trippy as hell. Visuals off the wall...my conscious was...indeed, somewhere else. That's all I gotta say.

Then one time I tried 40X. My god. To this day, I don't know where I went that time. It was nothing like anything on this earth. It was a totally different, fucked up reality. People's faces became walls, and it was just their facial features showing, and a lot more skin. There were like 5 of each one. And we were all strands of something bigger than all of us. Messeddd uppppp

It's too bad you can't experience salvia man...I'm sorry. I wish you could know what it's like. It's strange. I have no idea how your brain can be taken to such a strange state of mind. It's like consciousness creates reality...different levels or planes of consciousness can change reality as you know it, completely. Man, it's always weird coming back, too. It's almost like you didn't come back to the same universe, it's a different one, with the same people. I don't know. :-\


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Re: Why doesn't Salvia work on me? (moved) [Re: mathewww]
    #8893041 - 09/07/08 08:23 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

It is not necessarily about the SIZE of the hit...
try this:

Pack a bong full of the extract...

Light it, but when you light it, HOLD THE FLAME ON THE SALVIA THE WHOLE TIME!
Salvia needs to heat up super hot in order to activate.

Then when you hold it in your lungs, this is the MOST IMPORTANT PART:
HOLD IT IN FOR AT LEAST 30 SECONDS!
Literally have a timer, or have a friend count out from 1 to 30 for you before you let it go. If you can't hold it, you probably won't get the trip you are looking for.

Then, if you are able to, repeat the process with A FRESH BOWL OF SALVIA.

I usually place a small nug of weed at the bottom of the bowl so I don't suck the salvia through. Also, it seems to me like the smoke loses its potency after it's been sitting in the bong for a minute so just clear it out and blow it out, it won't do you any good.

Happy tripping. Be ready for it, it is really, truly, mind-shattering.


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Re: Why doesn't Salvia work on me? (moved) [Re: Patisotagami]
    #8893047 - 09/07/08 08:24 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

honestly your best bet would be to try a higher extract, thatll do ya good

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Re: Why doesn't Salvia work on me? (moved) [Re: Patisotagami]
    #8893855 - 09/07/08 10:59 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Well, I guess everyone is different, especially when it comes to salvia.  So many people on this site claim to need such potent extracts to get an effect.  That is kind of weird considering the natives got profound effects from using the regular plant.

Like, yageman, there are plenty who can get profound effects from just plain leaf.

And like smmu said, I believe it is all in the manner in which it is smoked.  I believe most people trying salvia and failing to get effects are trying to smoke it the way you would tobacco or marijuana.  If so, you are doing it wrong.

Basically, do as he said.  You need to get a big lungful while hitting it hard so that the bowl is burning aggressively.  Then hold that smoke in.  Most people I've seen hold it in for a little over 5 seconds and wonder why they don't get any effect.  Big difference between 5 and 30 seconds.


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Re: Why doesn't Salvia work on me? (moved) [Re: AnotherDimension]
    #8893867 - 09/07/08 11:02 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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Well, I guess everyone is different, especially when it comes to salvia.  So many people on this site claim to need such potent extracts to get an effect.  That is kind of weird considering the natives got profound effects from using the regular plant.




The natives didn't smoke it.  They would quid around 60 leaves.  Big difference.

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