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Offlinepfshroomer
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Whats your favorite Opiate? * 1
    #8877111 - 09/04/08 12:30 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

From Avinza to Zydone...whats your favorite?

Avinza
Buprenex
Buprenorphine
Codeine
Darvocet
Darvon
Demerol
Dilaudid
Duragesic Patch
Fentanyl
Fiorinal
Heroin
Hydrocodone
Hydromorphone
Kadian LAAM
Levorphanol
Lorcet
Lortab
Meperidine
Methadone
Methadose
Morphine
Morphine Sulfate
MS Contin
Norco
Nubain
Numorpitan
Opana
Opium Oxycontin
Oxycodone
Percodan
Percocet
Propoxyphene
Roxicodone
Roxicent
Suboxone
Subutex
Tramadol
Tylenol 3
Tylenol 4
Tylox
Ultram
Vicodin
oxymorphone
hydromorphone
fentanyl
codeine
morphine
hydrocodone
opium
thebaine derivitives
propoxyphene
darvon
darvocet
stadol

**OF COURSE THERE ARE SOME OTHER OPIATE/OPIODS OUT THERE,SO IF I LEFT YOUR FAVORITE OUT DONT HESITATE TO ADD IT TO THE LIST...ANWAYS,SO WHAT IS YOUR FAVORITE OPIOID RECEPTOR DRUG?***

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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: pfshroomer]
    #8878814 - 09/04/08 06:25 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

None.


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: ClammyJoe]
    #8879687 - 09/04/08 09:00 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

oxycodone for working days.
diacetylmorphine for laid back days.
and lastly suboxone for helping me quit.


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: pfshroomer]
    #8880274 - 09/04/08 11:16 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Hey, what's the big deal! Where's the poll? :mad:


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: Cameron]
    #8885454 - 09/06/08 05:26 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Cameron said:
Hey, what's the big deal! Where's the poll? :mad:



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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: pfshroomer]
    #8887875 - 09/06/08 05:13 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

all those present in poppy pods


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: demius]
    #8888028 - 09/06/08 05:54 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Opium FTW.


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: demius]
    #8896468 - 09/08/08 12:52 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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demius said:
all those present in poppy pods




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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: jewunit]
    #8948038 - 09/18/08 04:36 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Methodone, my only weakness.


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: pfshroomer]
    #8953374 - 09/19/08 03:08 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

hydrocodone pwns me


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: pfshroomer]
    #8955183 - 09/19/08 01:37 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

had a codeine stint once, kinda regret it.


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? *DELETED* [Re: DarkLiberty]
    #8956648 - 09/19/08 08:11 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: johnnyrad]
    #8958436 - 09/20/08 09:54 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

oxycodone,hydrocodone,herion,opium


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: PsilocybinLuvin]
    #8959647 - 09/20/08 03:41 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Hydrocodone "Lets get high for 1 hour"


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: TODAY]
    #8970578 - 09/22/08 09:46 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Heroin.  IV.  Everything else is like an appetizer.


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: Cascadian]
    #8973912 - 09/23/08 03:07 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

that purp syrup and a personal bleez.only way to go


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: thaganja]
    #8986886 - 09/25/08 08:34 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

4 bags of Heroin.. mixed w. a $20 of powder cocaine , mixed w. water and a new syringe...or if they only got crack u can actually crush it add a few drops of lemon juice to take the bakin soda out n more water to make it shootable...ya!


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: madbeaver]
    #9012692 - 10/01/08 09:21 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

lorecet is the strongest imo  even stronger than morphine sulfate

But it makes the user get werewolf eyes, you can see the evil in a person when they are on them.


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: umbrellamaker]
    #9061363 - 10/10/08 10:59 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)



my favorite opiate BY FAAARRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: pfshroomer]
    #9072517 - 10/13/08 05:51 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

heroin, oxy, hydrocodone


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #9093569 - 10/17/08 07:13 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

MisterMuscaria said:
Opium FTW.




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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: psycotropic]
    #9189378 - 11/05/08 01:21 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Poppy Pods(everything in em)
Oxycodone


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: marshalldylan1]
    #9191637 - 11/05/08 08:16 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Methadone w/
Percocet or Opana for breakthrough pain!


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: Locus]
    #9292367 - 11/22/08 02:39 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Dont fuck with opiates :mad2: :mad2: :mad2:
the road is long


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: jay.p]
    #9311135 - 11/25/08 01:24 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

jay.p said:
Dont fuck with opiates :mad2: :mad2: :mad2:
the road is long




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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: poke smot!]
    #9331800 - 11/29/08 11:20 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Quote:

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Dont fuck with opiates :mad2: :mad2: :mad2:
the road is long







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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: Psuper]
    #9431577 - 12/14/08 04:18 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

other than for killing pain
none
I don't like the high


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: Locus]
    #9433766 - 12/14/08 10:19 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

that I've tried, Oxycodone and Opium


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: Locus]
    #9451075 - 12/17/08 03:55 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

poppy


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: Locus]
    #9451517 - 12/17/08 05:21 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

oxycontin


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: Locus]
    #9463794 - 12/19/08 05:46 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Fentanyl seems to work the best by far, but the second best would be Demerol or even methadone. Methadone gets a bad rap because it is mainly used as an addiction maintenance drug, though it is also used for pain, more often than most people think.


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: Cascadian]
    #9463820 - 12/19/08 05:51 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Cascadian said:
Heroin.  IV.  Everything else is like an appetizer.



Fentanyl is way stronger than heroin and a much more clean euphoric feeling.


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: airspoon]
    #9469782 - 12/20/08 09:35 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

tru
Also etorphine a semi synthetic opiate synthesized from morphine is approx 1,000 times more potent than morphine.
Wikipedia,I believe that was the source,said that one drop on a humans skin would have a person killed in less than 30 minutes.Fuckin crazy!
They say only 6mg would DROP a FULL GROWN ELEPHANT...Fuckin crazy shit man
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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: Locus]
    #13531641 - 11/23/10 05:30 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Lortab,Vicodin,and Heroin.


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: butterz]
    #13532696 - 11/23/10 08:49 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: Cascadian]
    #14017615 - 02/23/11 11:31 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Fuck fentanyl

Hydromorphone for rush, oxycodone for nod


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: withoutawire]
    #14022056 - 02/24/11 06:42 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

I haven't done many... but Oxys, mmmm... :homerdrool:


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: airspoon]
    #14084898 - 03/08/11 01:21 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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Fentanyl by far, but the second best would be Demerol





You are the weirdest opiate user I have ever met.


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: pfshroomer]
    #14298141 - 04/15/11 08:34 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

I haven't tryed nearly enough of those.
But of the ones that I have tryed; 1)Morphine 2) Heroin.
In addition; I have tryed fentanyl, ultram, demeral, poppy, methadone, codiene, hydrocodone.
By the way aren't lortab, vicodin, and hydrocodone all the same thing?
Ultram though.... ultram is weird... I like it, but it gives me headaches and I definently feel off the next day.


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: pfshroomer]
    #14298443 - 04/15/11 09:41 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Out of the various forms I've tried, I like Percodans or Percocets the best. I get a lot of euphoria from that stuff for some reason.


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: pfshroomer]
    #14314470 - 04/18/11 09:41 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

codiene it stops the pain but does not get me high


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: psycotropic]
    #14314488 - 04/18/11 09:44 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Quote:

MisterMuscaria said:
Opium FTW.







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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: ClammyJoe]
    #14358129 - 04/26/11 09:05 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

opium


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: sloantbone]
    #14390733 - 05/02/11 06:36 PM (1 year, 29 days ago)

Opium is awesome for me, it also just tastes amazing


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: badfish923]
    #14396959 - 05/03/11 08:27 PM (1 year, 28 days ago)

Fentanyl for sure. The suckers are great, but nothing beats the nod you get from busting open a Duragesic patch of Fetanyl and sucking on that (be careful).:smirk:

Dilaudid is fucking awesome too. Hydromorphone is the same thing.

Used to love Oxycotnin 'til they changed the fucking formula and now you can't crush them.

Heroin (diacetylmorphine) makes me feel warm and fuzzy.:syringe:

So those would be my four favorites.

BTW methodone isn't a true opiate. It was engineered by the Nazi's when their poppy supply was cut-off


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: Chez man]
    #14421452 - 05/08/11 06:55 PM (1 year, 23 days ago)

fuckin Fentanyl..man great buzz..killller nodd!!


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: pfshroomer]
    #14458817 - 05/15/11 07:23 PM (1 year, 16 days ago)

Definitely Roxys all the way.


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: chiefaleaf]
    #14464684 - 05/16/11 07:51 PM (1 year, 15 days ago)

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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: eatshrOOms88]
    #14539257 - 05/31/11 03:53 AM (1 year, 1 day ago)

None anymore, but it was a close tie between Opana and the original OC.
Seriously though, don't fuck with opiates.


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: bonnahoo]
    #14567808 - 06/06/11 01:26 AM (11 months, 19 days ago)

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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: devek]
    #14568926 - 06/06/11 10:17 AM (11 months, 19 days ago)

Tramadol isn't an opiate, at best it could be consider an opioid (opiate like).

Tramadol is addicting though, regardless of what the doctors tell you.


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    #14581617 - 06/08/11 07:04 PM (11 months, 16 days ago)

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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: teefizzle]
    #14593267 - 06/10/11 09:31 PM (11 months, 14 days ago)

Toss up between tramadol and buprenorphine. This is only in terms of what I could ever afford.

If I had to pick one in terms of pleasure and could get it cheap, I'd say oxycodone. Although high doses of Tramadol are really quite something.

Hydrocodone is very nice too, but I think a step below oxy.

Codeine is weak but pleasant, and morphine is nice but makes me feel sick and fart like crazy. So honestly I give morphine a :thumbdown:

So final verdict? I'd say oxycodone. It's the most euphoric, the most capturing. What a feeling!


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: pfshroomer]
    #14798919 - 07/20/11 03:46 PM (10 months, 5 days ago)

Uhh, that's kinda dumb to list the same drug 2 or more times...? Propoxyphene is Darvocet, Hydrocodone is Lortab, Lorcet, vicodin & Norco...so if my fave is lorcet, then my fav is vicodin too...the APAP content may vary, but the effect and chemical is the same...sorry for being an ass, I'm just a recovering opiate addict and If I know about anything, It's opiates!


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: pfshroomer]
    #14798932 - 07/20/11 03:49 PM (10 months, 5 days ago)

I'm gonna go out on a limb here, and guess that the OP's favorite opiate is darvocet, considering he put it in the list 6 times. :lol:

My favorite is a tramadol/hydrocodone combo.


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: 5-HT2A]
    #14798935 - 07/20/11 03:50 PM (10 months, 5 days ago)

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Toss up between tramadol and buprenorphine. This is only in terms of what I could ever afford.

If I had to pick one in terms of pleasure and could get it cheap, I'd say oxycodone. Although high doses of Tramadol are really quite something.

Hydrocodone is very nice too, but I think a step below oxy.

Codeine is weak but pleasant, and morphine is nice but makes me feel sick and fart like crazy. So honestly I give morphine a :thumbdown:

So final verdict? I'd say oxycodone. It's the most euphoric, the most capturing. What a feeling!



HOLY FUCKIN SHIT!! TRAMADOL? WHAT ARE YOU A FUCKIN GERBIL? GOD DAMN SON, AND THATS ALL YOU COULD AFFORD? ARE YOU A SEX SLAVE BEING HELD CAPTIVE AND BEING PAID A DOLLAR A DAY FOR YOUR ANUS? DAMN....I JUST DONT GET THAT...SORRY


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: shroomedalice]
    #14798975 - 07/20/11 03:58 PM (10 months, 5 days ago)

NOW...for my favorite opiate....No goin thru and eliminating shit...it's Methadone hands down (as far as the high goes)...now Iv'e been stuck on 120 mgs of Methadone for the last 6 months due to me trying the whole methadone maintenance thing out..and honestly, It was always my fav opiate (cuz of how long its lasts), but when you get to the point I"m at, 120mg of methadone does nothing but make you a bit groggy...I cant get high on SHIT anymore, unless I take my methadone, and take a shitload of somethin strong right on top of it...IT SUCKS...But to a novice, beginning opiate user, It's the end all, be all to all opiates...Lasts 24 to 36 hours and dosn't take much at all...for a beginner 5 to 10mg is PLEANTY.


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: Mr.FunGuy]
    #14800408 - 07/20/11 08:30 PM (10 months, 5 days ago)

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    #14808636 - 07/22/11 11:53 AM (10 months, 4 days ago)

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heroin.




this. although I've never had the pleasure of trying IV dilaudid or opana myself.

I'm kind of jealous of the people answering things like hydrocodone because that hasn't done shit for me since high school. even though I haven't done any opiates in a while, even without a physical tolerance something like vicodin is just a shitty buzz to me. I fondly remember the time when I could take two vicodin before class and be feeling warm and fuzzy the entire time.


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: Pigasus]
    #14840989 - 07/28/11 08:13 PM (9 months, 28 days ago)

Opium for sure, but only at festies.


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: Daijo]
    #14881520 - 08/06/11 02:16 PM (9 months, 19 days ago)

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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: pfshroomer]
    #14882330 - 08/06/11 05:49 PM (9 months, 19 days ago)

I like poppy seed muffins.  Other than that, no thanks on the opiates.  Unless I'm in pain.


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: Daijo]
    #14887309 - 08/07/11 07:19 PM (9 months, 18 days ago)

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Dextromethorphan




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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: Chez man]
    #14887410 - 08/07/11 07:49 PM (9 months, 18 days ago)

It has a morphinan backbone, and very slight opioid activity (about 100 times lower than hydrocodone).

Whether you want to consider it an opioid, that's up to you.


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: Chez man]
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Dextromethorphan




Since when is this an opiate?



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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: Daijo]
    #14909469 - 08/12/11 12:02 AM (9 months, 14 days ago)

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Dextromethorphan




Since when is this an opiate?



Dextromethorphan is the dextrorotatory enantiomer of the methyl ether of levorphanol, an opioid analgesic

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Opioid=opiate like

I thought this thread was 'bout opiates, but:shrug:


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: Chez man]
    #14910577 - 08/12/11 09:10 AM (9 months, 14 days ago)

I would love to wax all philashophical about opiates, but ill save some 25c words. They are much like Cujo, when u first get them(him), there oh soo great and give you that warm fuzzy feelin. After routine use Cujo gets rabbies and you know the rest.

Opiates dont give a fuck how much you know about them, they do what there suppose too. Its up to you crossing that line between " im in pain!!" "well maybe just couple extra wont hurt"


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: Chez man]
    #14911132 - 08/12/11 11:30 AM (9 months, 14 days ago)

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Opioid=opiate like

I thought this thread was 'bout opiates, but:shrug:




I'm pretty sure he meant opioid.

Heroin is an opioid.  Oxycodone is an opioid.  The only drugs that are considered opiates are the chemicals that occur naturally in the opium poppy.

If you want to narrow it down that thoroughly, you're going to have to complain to about 80% of the people in the thread.

500mg DXM has the same opioid activity as 5mg hydrocodone (another opioid, not opiate).  500mg is a very common dosage, and has a discernible opioid effect.


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: BothHands]
    #14911192 - 08/12/11 11:45 AM (9 months, 14 days ago)

no, heroin is an opiate, it's falls in the category of semi-synthetic derivatives

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In medicine, the term opiate describes any of the narcotic opioid alkaloids found as natural products in the opium poppy plant, as well as many semisynthetic chemical derivatives of such alkaloids.[1]




it feels kinda natural because it feels like morphine
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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: BothHands]
    #14911208 - 08/12/11 11:48 AM (9 months, 14 days ago)

no, heroin is an opiate, it's falls in the category of semi-synthetic opiates

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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: teefizzle]
    #14911275 - 08/12/11 12:03 PM (9 months, 13 days ago)

Hmm, my mistake.  Well, then it seems naltrexone is an opiate. :lol:


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: BothHands]
    #14911995 - 08/12/11 02:49 PM (9 months, 13 days ago)

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Hmm, my mistake.  Well, then it seems naltrexone is an opiate. :lol:




No naltreone is NOT an opiate. I guess you could consider it an opioid, more specifically an opioid receptor antagonist.


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: Chez man]
    #14912382 - 08/12/11 04:24 PM (9 months, 13 days ago)

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Hmm, my mistake.  Well, then it seems naltrexone is an opiate. :lol:




No naltreone is NOT an opiate. I guess you could consider it an opioid, more specifically an opioid receptor antagonist.




Opiate: compound containing the fundamental morphine or thebaine structure possessing some affinity to any, or all, of the opioid receptor subtypes. Examples are heroin, buprenorphine and naltrexone.

Naltrexone is a semi-synthetic derivitave of one of the opium poppy's compounds.


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: BothHands]
    #14912658 - 08/12/11 05:43 PM (9 months, 13 days ago)

any drug that affect the opiate receptors is an opioid drug. even immodium and menthol have opiate properties. narcan is most definately an opioid drug.

but i really think we are disecting this way too much here.

teefizzle quote...."it feels kinda natural because it feels like morphine"

what heroin? ive always read that heroin and morphine are damn near the same thing. as soon as it hits the brain, it becomes morphine. heroin is just a compound that can allow more morphine to hit the brain at once. it is a synthetic opiate to some extent, but it hits the body as natural morphine.

yet it can be detected in certain drug screens as a distinct molecule from morphine.


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: Lipa Kreepa]
    #14912669 - 08/12/11 05:46 PM (9 months, 13 days ago)

We were talking about the differences between an opioid and an opiate.  DXM is an opioid, but not an opiate, and some people where getting upset that it was mentioned, since it doesn't fit into the first category.

But if we're restricting ourselves to the first category, a lot of other chemicals are left out, like fentanyl, for example, which is an opioid, but not an opiate.


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: Lipa Kreepa]
    #14912675 - 08/12/11 05:48 PM (9 months, 13 days ago)

does dxm really have any opiate properties?

its been my understanding that dxm is made from opiates but i dont think it actually posseses any true opiate properties. it can help with opiate w/d to some degree but its more of an NDMA drug than anything. and the effects of these drugs can seem somewhat opiate like.


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: Lipa Kreepa]
    #14912684 - 08/12/11 05:49 PM (9 months, 13 days ago)

Yes, as I mentioned earlier, it has a morphinan back bone, and an opioid affinity that is about 100 times lower than hydrocodone.  But since large DXM doses are taken, the low affinity is made up for.  A 500mg dose of DXM has the same opioid effect as 5mg hydrocodone.  5mg hydrocodone does cause a noticeable, measurable opioid effect.

Its primary effect is not as an opioid though.  It's as an SRI and SRA.  The metabolite DXO's primary effect is as an NMDA antagonist.


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: BothHands]
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There are so many repeat names in the list the OP made makes me think someone was web surfing


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    #14913585 - 08/12/11 09:16 PM (9 months, 13 days ago)

i see oxycodone and heroin as opiates because they are derived from thebaine and morphine respectively, and thebaine and morphine are both constituents of opium.

something like dxm or methadone isn't derived from an opiate, it just has opioid receptor activty.


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    #14914028 - 08/12/11 11:14 PM (9 months, 13 days ago)

I've only tried codeine, but if I did have to try an opiate, it would be straight opium or poppy tea. Everything else is nasty for me. Don't really like the opiate high.


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    #14914036 - 08/12/11 11:17 PM (9 months, 13 days ago)

Yeah, I didn't like it either until I lowered the dose and added a benzo.


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: teefizzle]
    #14916245 - 08/13/11 02:05 PM (9 months, 12 days ago)

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i see oxycodone and heroin as opiates because they are derived from thebaine and morphine respectively, and thebaine and morphine are both constituents of opium.

something like dxm or methadone isn't derived from an opiate, it just has opioid receptor activty.



methadone is most definately a true opiate drug. it is synthetitic of course, but it is a very strong opiate. it is not in the same category of natural opiates like opium, morphine thebaine or the like, but it affects the body the in the exact same way. dxm really doesnt unless its a massive fucking dose. and even then it isnt that much opioid receptor play going on. methadone and fentanyl are def no dif than heroin or oxycodone, or even morphine and codiene for that matter... other than they are sythnetitic and have a dif play on the receptors to a small window of contrast.


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: Lipa Kreepa]
    #14916347 - 08/13/11 02:24 PM (9 months, 12 days ago)

No, morphine is an opiate, methadone and fentanyl are opioids.  They both affect the opioid receptors in the same way, and the difference is purely semantics.  But earlier, someone suggested that opioids should not be included in the thread.  But if you don't want to include DXM on the grounds that it's an opioid, and not an opiate, you can't include methadone of fentanyl because they are also opioids, and not opiates.

I though this was already explained.  Several times.

And if you'd like to exclude DXM on the grounds that it needs a larger dose than average opioids, then you need to exclude things like codeine, which also needs a fairly large dose.


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: BothHands]
    #14916394 - 08/13/11 02:34 PM (9 months, 12 days ago)

I thought the euphoria and well being/feeling of peace on DXM was because it's an opioid...


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: Daijo]
    #14916406 - 08/13/11 02:35 PM (9 months, 12 days ago)

It's because of many things, like SRI and SRA properties, NMDA antagonist properties, but opioid affinity surely plays a part in those who are opioid naive.


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: BothHands]
    #14916461 - 08/13/11 02:44 PM (9 months, 12 days ago)

I sure am ''opioid naive'' :P Tried Kratom and codeine... that's pretty much it :P


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: Lipa Kreepa]
    #14917825 - 08/13/11 08:23 PM (9 months, 12 days ago)

Methadone is NOT an opiate, it's an opioid.  Just because something is potent does NOT make it more of an opiate or something.


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: teefizzle]
    #14917832 - 08/13/11 08:23 PM (9 months, 12 days ago)

Whatevs, bro.

Let's not be that picky.


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: Daijo]
    #14920862 - 08/14/11 12:16 PM (9 months, 11 days ago)

yeah i guess i got mixed up, my bad:grin:

opiate, opioid, geez. its still the same thing basically. just one is synthetic and the other is from a natural source.


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: Lipa Kreepa]
    #14924179 - 08/15/11 01:58 AM (9 months, 11 days ago)

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Opiates are drugs derived from opium. Opioids used to refer to synthetic opiates (drugs created to emulate opium, however different chemically). Now the term Opioid is used for the entire family of opiates including natural, synthetic and semi-synthetic.




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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: withoutawire]
    #14927614 - 08/15/11 05:51 PM (9 months, 10 days ago)

Opioids are used as a receptor blocker of opiates by binding the synthetic chemical to the receptor to help heroine junkies kick because if you use an opiate while on an opioid the opiate will have little to no effect and typically make one violently ill (depending on the opioid) <<<<<<<<---- trust me on this one. Personal experience. Fresh opium tea or opium in the raw smoked is a very pleasant deeply relaxing narcotic high with muscle relaxant overtones backed by lowered respiratory rate and hypnotic dreamlike awareness :smile: (unless you use too much which can result in mild to horrible nausea).


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: babz89] * 1
    #14927623 - 08/15/11 05:52 PM (9 months, 10 days ago)

not true in most cases

you're thinking of suboxone or something?

I personally am loving this H right now


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: teefizzle]
    #14927655 - 08/15/11 05:57 PM (9 months, 10 days ago)

Suboxone (buponorphine), methadone, phyntinal, and a few others especially all fall under that category. Been there done that I know WAY more about opiates and oids than I would care to I will not argue this further. (forgive any spelling mistakes)


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: babz89] * 1
    #14927698 - 08/15/11 06:03 PM (9 months, 10 days ago)

when people say they'll argue no further, it usually means they aren't too confident in their claims.


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: teefizzle]
    #14927706 - 08/15/11 06:04 PM (9 months, 10 days ago)

Nah I have no reason to argue with someone on the internet...


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: babz89]
    #14927716 - 08/15/11 06:06 PM (9 months, 10 days ago)

the word argue has a negative connotation, perhaps instead you could enlighten me as to why you believe what you posted.

there are a lot of full agonist opioids out there.


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: teefizzle]
    #14927880 - 08/15/11 06:30 PM (9 months, 10 days ago)

I posted what I posted from personal experience of use of said drugs having access to said drugs and more. I was also close to a seasoned heroine junkie to deal with said scenarios, that was completely enabled by those who knew him. My statement is a bit broad but I stand by it though there may be some exceptions. I need not explain myself any further as stated above.


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: babz89]
    #14928266 - 08/15/11 07:21 PM (9 months, 10 days ago)

It's very untrue.  There are agonists and antagonists of both opioid and opiate classes.  The distinction is purely semantics, and is completely useless.  They're the same thing, except one class is all chemicals that act on the opioid receptors, and the other class is only chemicals that act on the opioid receptors that are also derived from the poppy.  All opiates are also opioids, but not all opioids are opiates.


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: babz89]
    #14933113 - 08/16/11 05:04 PM (9 months, 9 days ago)

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Opioids are used as a receptor blocker of opiates by binding the synthetic chemical to the receptor to help heroine junkies kick because if you use an opiate while on an opioid the opiate will have little to no effect and typically make one violently ill (depending on the opioid) <<<<<<<<---- trust me on this one. Personal experience. Fresh opium tea or opium in the raw smoked is a very pleasant deeply relaxing narcotic high with muscle relaxant overtones backed by lowered respiratory rate and hypnotic dreamlike awareness :smile: (unless you use too much which can result in mild to horrible nausea).




Wrong. Depends on their binding affinity. You can't just generalize and say all opioids block opiates....


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: Chez man]
    #14933127 - 08/16/11 05:06 PM (9 months, 9 days ago)

:werd:

Just shot about 60mg of some Fire raw heroin

Ideally it'd be a potent cup of pod tea, but beggars can't be choosers.


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: teefizzle]
    #14963026 - 08/22/11 06:52 PM (9 months, 3 days ago)

i only like these two mixes.

oxycodone with klonopin  IV

codeine with ambien


opiates alone do to me what 2 beers does


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: jebre]
    #14994179 - 08/28/11 09:58 PM (8 months, 28 days ago)

Kratom.


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: jebre]
    #15011038 - 09/01/11 08:10 AM (8 months, 25 days ago)

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i only like these two mixes.

oxycodone with klonopin  IV

codeine with ambien


opiates alone do to me what 2 beers does





You sound like every other person I know dead in the ground from mixing. Don't mix. Use your head.


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    #15086677 - 09/16/11 09:16 AM (8 months, 10 days ago)

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    #15479436 - 12/07/11 08:48 AM (5 months, 21 days ago)

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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: Stegosaurus]
    #15480617 - 12/07/11 01:20 PM (5 months, 20 days ago)

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Dilaudid (hydromorphone), hands down.



:whathesaid: I got a purple blue 8mg bar once (the 160 oxy's are purple don't believe me look it up on the DEA archive). Love that warm fuzzy slightly itchy feeling :tee:


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: babz89]
    #15481343 - 12/07/11 03:51 PM (5 months, 20 days ago)

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Dilaudid (hydromorphone), hands down.



:whathesaid: I got a purple 8mg bar once. Love that warm fuzzy slightly itchy feeling :tee:




Really? Purple bars? The only pill shape I've ever seen 8mg hydromorphone come in is the triangular "shield" shape.


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: Chez man]
    #15531944 - 12/17/11 05:46 PM (5 months, 10 days ago)

Most definetely Hydromorphone. But it's a rare treat, I'll settle for poppy tea if I need a nod. But I use oxycodone most often as it's great mood enhancer, makes me so motivated to get shit done.


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    #15995302 - 03/25/12 05:21 PM (2 months, 4 days ago)

pod tea was quite nice but the addiction/withdrawal end of it sucks balls


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: withoutawire]
    #16032816 - 04/02/12 08:18 AM (1 month, 28 days ago)

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i only like these two mixes.

oxycodone with klonopin  IV

codeine with ambien


opiates alone do to me what 2 beers does





You sound like every other person I know dead in the ground from mixing. Don't mix. Use your head.




yea i stopped doing that awhile ago
in fact i've quit everything except for psychedelics (they have no wd, no overdose, no negative effects whatsoever)  even quit smoking pot cuz it makes me dumb and lazy.  cut out all the habits and filled them with hobbies/productive drug use

anyways of my 8 years of polydrug use    i've been to the ER 5 times

1. alcohol
2. alcohol
3.adderal, kolonpin, dxm, morphine, ambien, alcohol ( 4 day coma)
4. dxm (vomitting, seizing)
5. alcohol

i don't really know what the moral of that story is.  i guess that IV mix of benzo and opiate is dangerous but it really does matter on the person. drinking always threw me over.

oh yea and i've only done dxm once without going to the hospital.

tbh i only did all the brain damaging life threatening shit because of lack of access to the "true" psychedelics    which i find to be the most amazing drugs in the world


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    #16064899 - 04/09/12 10:26 AM (1 month, 21 days ago)

Glad to see people are still posting on my thread thats 3+ years old :smile:
And Im still in love with them(opiates that is;)) today!!


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: demius]
    #16119759 - 04/21/12 10:02 AM (1 month, 9 days ago)

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all those present in poppy pods



What do you mean? Do pods contain fentanyl and the likes as well, is that what you're saying? I never heard of that...


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    #16121488 - 04/21/12 06:30 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

Nope..Fentanyl is a synthetic opioid..


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    #16130725 - 04/23/12 08:40 PM (1 month, 6 days ago)

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Nope..Fentanyl is a synthetic opioid..



That's what I thought. Pods are shitty in comparison to the Real Deal.


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    #16184430 - 05/04/12 11:36 PM (26 days, 12 hours ago)

wow..I just read froma page one to pafge seven..btw I snoted a bump of mxe easlier..
Methadone is still my facotire opiate!!opioid!!lol
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    #16186024 - 05/05/12 11:56 AM (26 days, 7 minutes ago)

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wow..I just read froma page one to pafge seven..btw I snoted a bump of mxe easlier..
Methadone is still my facotire opiate!!opioid!!lol
all you guys grack me up!!
much love :P



Wow man, you really seem fucked up.

Time to pop another bromazepam (maybe I'll be typing like you in about an hour :wink:).


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    #16188095 - 05/05/12 09:07 PM (25 days, 14 hours ago)

hahah..man Ive never gotten to ever try Bromazepam..Im a Benzo enthusiast and Ive never gotten to try that one bro..How does it work for you??
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    #16189780 - 05/06/12 09:03 AM (25 days, 2 hours ago)

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hahah..man Ive never gotten to ever try Bromazepam..Im a Benzo enthusiast and Ive never gotten to try that one bro..How does it work for you??
peace



It is one of my favourite benzodiazepines (I'm prescribed the 12 mg pills - 50 for €9.90, I use like 4 of them each day), together with Triazolam (Halcion) and Flunitrazepam (that I'm both also prescribed).

Bromazepam is very good for anxiety, and also great as a muscle relaxant. Also, the euphoria is just awesome. It doesn't make your mind as foggy as for instance Alprazolam, but it lasts longer (somewhere between Alprazolam and Diazepam). It's been taken of the market in most countries (like the U.K. for instance) because it has a rather high potential for abuse.

I used almost every benzo available in my country (Bromazepam, Triazolam, Flunitrazepam, Nitrazepam, Midazolam (another great benzo!), Diazepam, Clonazepam, Oxazepam, Lorazepam, Lormetazepam, Brotizolam (although that's technically not really a benzo - but it is awesome as well!),... I used them all for a period of over a month, and I've probably used more benzos than the ones I mentioned, but I can't remember any of them at the moment).

So I honestly think I can say that I'm a benzo veteran. :grin: But Bromazepam is really worth trying, one of the best that are out there in my opinion. Man, I love my MD. :heart: Last week I asked him for Sonata aka Zaleplon (not a benzo, I know) and he prescribed it to me, but when I went to the pharmacist they told me Sonata has been taken of the market... :stars:

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    #16191736 - 05/06/12 06:15 PM (24 days, 17 hours ago)

Aww man too bad about the Sonota being taken off the market bro..Yeah you can still get that here in the US..Man dude,your prescribed Ruphys bro??!! WTF lol..Thats badass!! Yeah dude your definitely the Benzo veteran..I love my benzo's but Im more of an Opiate veteran..Ive taken just about every opiate known to man kind im sure..
But yeah man,thats wild about you getting the Flunitazepam..Man thats like finding a needle in a haystack around here bro..And the Triazolam is also another hard one to find..The Benzos I can usually get my hands on are Aplrazolam,Diazepam,Phenazepam,Clonazepam,chlordiazepoxide,stuff like that ya know..And the Phenazepam I have to order,so its not just readily available ya know..lol
The part of the country I live in now is ate up with Opiates man..I myself take Methadone daily for pain and to make my ass stay straight :smile: But I get it from the doc for pain,not at a methadone clinic..Also I get the temmies as well :smile: Restoril is what its marketed as here,Temazepam..If your in the UK,I know you guys like that one :wink:
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    #16194129 - 05/07/12 09:09 AM (24 days, 2 hours ago)

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Aww man too bad about the Sonota being taken off the market bro..Yeah you can still get that here in the US..Man dude,your prescribed Ruphys bro??!! WTF lol..Thats badass!! Yeah dude your definitely the Benzo veteran..I love my benzo's but Im more of an Opiate veteran..Ive taken just about every opiate known to man kind im sure..
But yeah man,thats wild about you getting the Flunitazepam..Man thats like finding a needle in a haystack around here bro..And the Triazolam is also another hard one to find..The Benzos I can usually get my hands on are Aplrazolam,Diazepam,Phenazepam,Clonazepam,chlordiazepoxide,stuff like that ya know..And the Phenazepam I have to order,so its not just readily available ya know..lol
The part of the country I live in now is ate up with Opiates man..I myself take Methadone daily for pain and to make my ass stay straight :smile: But I get it from the doc for pain,not at a methadone clinic..Also I get the temmies as well :smile: Restoril is what its marketed as here,Temazepam..If your in the UK,I know you guys like that one :wink:
Yeah man,great talking to ya bro..Hope all is well!




Temazepam isn't sold where I live (in Vlaanderen), unfortunately. I take opiates as well (OxyContin 80 mg, OxyNorm Instant 20 mg, and I've used MS Contin 100 mg and Paladon ER (Hydromorphone, I'm not sure about what the dose was - 8 mg I think) as well - all prescribed.

I usually make a list with all the medication I need before I go to my MD, and he then prescribes them to me. One time I asked for 10 boxes of 10 Flunitrazepam 1 MG pills, but instead he prescribed me 30 boxes (by mistake, I guess...). That's 300 pills! And since one box of 10 pills costs less then €1.5, that's a great deal, I would say.

I'm going to visit my MD on friday to get some more roofies and some other things. 10 boxes will do, I guess.

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opiates are the worst type of meds and if youve ever kicked cold turkey you would know real pain..


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opiates are the worst type of meds and if youve ever kicked cold turkey you would know real pain..



I have, and while going through cold turkey withdrawals is pure agony, I don't think they are the worst type of meds at all.

Opiates have a high therapeutic value, as well as an extremely recreational value.


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    #16199615 - 05/08/12 11:18 AM (23 days, 44 minutes ago)

Yeah Opiate withdrawl is hell..But they say Benzo withdrawl is worse..Ive suffered Opiate withdrawl numerous and I mean numerous times..However Ive only suffered severe benzo withdrawl once..and yeah it suckd!! But,I think that Methadone withdrawl is totally different than any other Opiate withdrawls because of the long half life of Methadone..another example would be Buprenorphine as well..

Nonkeldolf man..You have one nice M.D. :smile:


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: Nonkeldolf]
    #16211805 - 05/10/12 06:57 PM (20 days, 17 hours ago)

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Temazepam isn't sold where I live (in Vlaanderen), unfortunately.

I'm going to visit my MD on friday to get some more roofies and some other things. 10 boxes will do, I guess.

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You aren't missing anything great by not having access to temazepam.  It makes me really tired and kinda fucked up for a few hours the first 2 times i take it maybe, but then the tolerance just gets fucked and it's not even enjoyable anymore.

oh, and if you have any extras lying around :wink:  (just winking)


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    #16211957 - 05/10/12 07:25 PM (20 days, 16 hours ago)

Man you read all the old pages in this thread? I feel bad deleting my post way back when on the first page... Let me come back from the crypt and say one of my favorite opiates is oxy... for it's effectiveness, availability, and therapeutic value.

However, I've had a couple friends fuck themselves over with it... smoking them and stealing shit to fund their addiction... dear hitler I can't imagine why anyone would smoke a pill. But I must sympathize, they were otherwise good people.

Sob story aside, oxy reigns supreme IME but I've never had the luxury of trying heroin. Hydro is a kind treat. Kratom is an honorable mention, but I don't believe it's technically an opiate. Papaver Somniferum elitists rest easy :jointsmile:.


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    #16211993 - 05/10/12 07:32 PM (20 days, 16 hours ago)

hydrocodone or oxycodone.


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    #16212042 - 05/10/12 07:42 PM (20 days, 16 hours ago)

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However, I've had a couple friends fuck themselves over with it... smoking them and stealing shit to fund their addiction... dear hitler I can't imagine why anyone would smoke a pill. But I must sympathize, they were otherwise good people.




were they the kind of people who are fine smoking pills but get all offended if you ask about needles?


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    #16212247 - 05/10/12 08:24 PM (20 days, 15 hours ago)

Actually they were. Down here the pot smokers look down on the pill users and the pill users tend to smoke their pills yet they look down on IV users. I've recommended to many oxy smokers to at least snort their pills because smoking the other contents of their pill (not to mention aluminum foil) has unknown, likely hazardous effects... not one has actually contemplated this. One even threw up blood during his (family enforced) withdrawal but went right back on smoking oxys within a month or so. South florida is fucked. We need legal medical weed here desperately lest our youth degenerates further (but I realize that's wishful thinking, both the legal weed and the possibility it is a solution).


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    #16212265 - 05/10/12 08:27 PM (20 days, 15 hours ago)

the world would be a better place if everyone researched the substance they were about to use.

it blows my mind when i see addicts who know next to nothing but anecdotal information about the substance they use EVERY SINGLE DAY

our country and proper drug education just don't exist together.

**i believe florida is the no. 1 state for illegal indoor marijuana grows now?


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    #16212361 - 05/10/12 08:45 PM (20 days, 15 hours ago)

I agree wholeheartedly, it's very sad. Especially since most people have access to the internet and the rest simply need a library card.

About florida leading in illegal marijuana grows, that's very interesting, I haven't heard that before. A quick search brought up articles claiming it is the leader in "indoor marijuana cultivation" (time magazine) and the leader in "indoor marijuana grow busts (according to the DEA)". It's hard to tell if we're growing more weed or are just getting fucked around more by the police... from experience I'd guess the latter.

Anyways, weed should be legal in every state, I just believe with the rampant pill mills, oxy smoking, and the large amount of people (at least in the younger generation) accepting of weed, we should be on the top of the "list". Unfortunately our state is run by the fearful and brainwashed so I wouldn't bet my money on any positive change happening soon.


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    #16212401 - 05/10/12 08:52 PM (20 days, 15 hours ago)

i have heard from many people that the cops in florida are horrible

is it like a police state out there?

the thing is the rich old people that live in florida probably live in gated communities away from the cops.

the cops are there to harass young people and brown people.


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    #16212610 - 05/10/12 09:27 PM (20 days, 14 hours ago)

I've lived here for over 21 years and I have met only one cop who was somewhat respectable and nice to me. There are a few who stand out in my mind who have completely abused their authority on-duty, and a couple who have proven to be racist, ignorant scumbags off-duty. I can't speak for the whole police force down here, I assume... hope... at least some are decent human beings who care about actually protecting people but so far I have only experienced egotistical assholes.


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    #16219318 - 05/12/12 10:19 AM (19 days, 1 hour ago)

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Yeah Opiate withdrawl is hell..But they say Benzo withdrawl is worse..Ive suffered Opiate withdrawl numerous and I mean numerous times..However Ive only suffered severe benzo withdrawl once..and yeah it suckd!! But,I think that Methadone withdrawl is totally different than any other Opiate withdrawls because of the long half life of Methadone..another example would be Buprenorphine as well..

Nonkeldolf man..You have one nice M.D. :smile:




Indeed, I'm very lucky with my M.D. Yesterday I went to see him again, and he gave 4 prescriptions for OxyContin 80 mg (30 pills each), 3 for OxyNorm Instant 20 mg -the European version of OxyCodone- (28 pills each). He also gave me 2 prescriptions for Bromazepam 12 mg (50 pills each) and 5 prescriptions for Flunitrazepam 1 mg (10 pills each).

I wanted 10 boxes of Flunitrazepam, but I accidentally wrote 5 boxes instead of 10 on my list. I noticed this when I was already back at home, so that sucks a little. Fortunately, I have some prescriptions for Halcion lying around.

Where I live, a doctors visit costs about € 24 - € 30 (I payed € 26.5), but thanks to our beautiful healthcare system you can get like 75% of the cost of your consultation paid back to you, so in reality a visit t the doctor costs about € 7, which isn't that much.

I don't know how doctor visits are done (and cost) in the U.S., I guess the prescriptions aren't handwritten either. Sometimes I even ask my doctor to mail me some scripts, and he makes no problem of it - free of charge!

Oh, and all my OxyContin is old formula. The OP's aren't even on the market in my country (and I think this applies for the rest of Europe as well) as of yet. I hope they never change the original OxyContin tablets for the OP's here in Europe!

I'm really glad I live in Europe. However, it sucks that Oxymorphone isn't sold here (yet)...

P.S.: Does anyone knows of some benzodiazepines that you consider really worth trying? That way I'll ask a few scripts for them the next time I visit my doctor (probably within a month or so), if I haven't tried them already.


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teefizzle said:You aren't missing anything great by not having access to temazepam.  It makes me really tired and kinda fucked up for a few hours the first 2 times i take it maybe, but then the tolerance just gets fucked and it's not even enjoyable anymore.

oh, and if you have any extras lying around :wink:  (just winking)




Selling some of my meds sometimes sounds really tempting. Especially since I could really use the money. The only problem is that I need most of my medication myself (although I would give in if someone offered me a good deal).

But that would be illegal, and stuff. :smirk: (just smirking)


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    #16219346 - 05/12/12 10:31 AM (19 days, 1 hour ago)

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Yeah Opiate withdrawl is hell..But they say Benzo withdrawl is worse..Ive suffered Opiate withdrawl numerous and I mean numerous times..However Ive only suffered severe benzo withdrawl once..and yeah it suckd!! But,I think that Methadone withdrawl is totally different than any other Opiate withdrawls because of the long half life of Methadone..another example would be Buprenorphine as well..

Nonkeldolf man..You have one nice M.D. :smile:




Indeed, I'm very lucky with my M.D. Yesterday I went to see him again, and he gave 4 prescriptions for OxyContin 80 mg (30 pills each), 3 for OxyNorm Instant 20 mg -the European version of OxyCodone- (28 pills each). He also gave me 2 prescriptions for Bromazepam 12 mg (50 pills each) and 5 prescriptions for Flunitrazepam 1 mg (10 pills each).

I wanted 10 boxes of Flunitrazepam, but I accidentally wrote 5 boxes instead of 10 on my list. I noticed this when I was already back at home, so that sucks a little. Fortunately, I have some prescriptions for Halcion lying around.

Where I live, a doctors visit costs about € 24 - € 30 (I payed € 26.5), but thanks to our beautiful healthcare system you can get like 75% of the cost of your consultation paid back to you, so in reality a visit t the doctor costs about € 7, which isn't that much.

I don't know how doctor visits are done (and cost) in the U.S., I guess the prescriptions aren't handwritten either. Sometimes I even ask my doctor to mail me some scripts, and he makes no problem of it - free of charge!

Oh, and all my OxyContin is old formula. The OP's aren't even on the market in my country (and I think this applies for the rest of Europe as well) as of yet. I hope they never change the original OxyContin tablets for the OP's here in Europe!

I'm really glad I live in Europe. However, it sucks that Oxymorphone isn't sold here (yet)...

P.S.: Does anyone knows of some benzodiazepines that you consider really worth trying? That way I'll ask a few scripts for them the next time I visit my doctor (probably within a month or so), if I haven't tried them already.


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teefizzle said:You aren't missing anything great by not having access to temazepam.  It makes me really tired and kinda fucked up for a few hours the first 2 times i take it maybe, but then the tolerance just gets fucked and it's not even enjoyable anymore.

oh, and if you have any extras lying around :wink:  (just winking)




Selling some of my meds sometimes sounds really tempting. Especially since I could really use the money. The only problem is that I need most of my medication myself (although I would give in if someone offered me a good deal).

But that would be illegal, and stuff. :smirk: (just smirking)




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    #16219624 - 05/12/12 11:48 AM (19 days, 14 minutes ago)

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About what in particular?

For instance, how much does one pay for a doctors visit in the U.S.? Here everyone (rich [band poor) is covered by healthcare, so it's very cheap when compared to some other countries.


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    #16220462 - 05/12/12 03:24 PM (18 days, 20 hours ago)

see thats the thing man..Here in the US I pay $75 USD of course which would be approximately like 90-100 Euros if Im not mistaken..Anyways,Yeah I pay 75usd for my dr visit and thats once a month..But I get #120 Methadone 10mg/#120 Soma 350mg/#30 Temazepam 30mg..And all of those medicines come up to a total of about 55usd..So not too bad really..
But in your case..With getting reinburstmants and such,man that sounds too good to be true dude!! Seriously man..
Im jealous of all the Benzos you get bro..lol
And as for a benzo that you could ask for..I think you have tried and have in your possession just about any benzodiazepine available..seriously man
But what about Etizolam,and other Benzo analouges??
And what about Phenazepam?? Tried that??
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    #16221533 - 05/12/12 07:25 PM (18 days, 16 hours ago)

I haven't tried Etizolam and Phenazepam yet. I'm curious about Etizolam though, but in my opinion they cost way to much, For 100 Etizolam 2 mg pellets I can buy approximately 750 Flunitrazepam 1 mg tablets, if you get my point. However, that doesn't change the fact that I'm curious to try them, so I probably will order some Etizolam in the future.

Phenazepam is another story. I haven't tried it yet, and I'm not really planning to do so either. I've heard quite a lot of horror stories about it (mostly where due to its long half life).

Are there other Benzodiazepine Research Chemicals apart from those two? And if so, which ones? I'm always open to new chemicals (especially Benzodiazepines and opiates - If you know of some good opiate RC's... I'm very interested).

Also, how does Methadone compare to -let's say- OxyContin? Some say it's great, others say it's a crappy high. I haven't tried it myself, so I wouldn't know.

I'm also very interested in trying Soma one day... How would you describe the high? Doesn't it also potentiates opiates?

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    #16228470 - 05/14/12 09:35 AM (17 days, 2 hours ago)

Soma most definitely increases the effects of Opiates/Opioids..The Soma high itself is just like being drunk..or being "Under the Influence" anyways..In another words it makes you feel as if you have been drinking..Pretty nice actually..And total loss of muscle pain in my experience..Also You might find this interesting,Cariosoprodol(Soma) metabolizes into an active metabolite Meprobamate,a tranquilizer..Quite nice!!
As for the Methadone high..I prefer it over any other Opiate really because of the long half life..Ive been taking methadone now for about 8 years for pain..Now dont get me wrong I wouldnt mind doing an occassional Opiate to get High High..Like heroin,Opana,Oxycontin..etc etc..but as far as day to day,Ill stick to my Methadone :smile:
Hope I could answer some questions for ya mate..
Ive gotta question for you man..So in your country what mg do your Flunitrazepam come in?? 
P.S.-Ive got Phenazepam now and some Etiz on the way :wink:


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    #16234944 - 05/15/12 11:45 AM (16 days, 17 minutes ago)

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Soma most definitely increases the effects of Opiates/Opioids..The Soma high itself is just like being drunk..or being "Under the Influence" anyways..In another words it makes you feel as if you have been drinking..Pretty nice actually..And total loss of muscle pain in my experience..Also You might find this interesting,Cariosoprodol(Soma) metabolizes into an active metabolite Meprobamate,a tranquilizer..Quite nice!!
As for the Methadone high..I prefer it over any other Opiate really because of the long half life..Ive been taking methadone now for about 8 years for pain..Now dont get me wrong I wouldnt mind doing an occassional Opiate to get High High..Like heroin,Opana,Oxycontin..etc etc..but as far as day to day,Ill stick to my Methadone :smile:
Hope I could answer some questions for ya mate..
Ive gotta question for you man..So in your country what mg do your Flunitrazepam come in?? 
P.S.-Ive got Phenazepam now and some Etiz on the way :wink:




Thanks for answering my questions! :smile: I didn't know that a Methadone high was so different compared to other opiates.

As for the Flunitrazepam, where I live (in Belgium) they only sell the 1 mg pills since the 2 mg pills were taken off the market. They sell both a generic version and the brand name (Rohypnol) pills, but I always ask for the generic version. The price of the generic Flunitrazepam is lower, and for some reason most doctors here are more likely to sell the generic Flunitrazepam (my guess is that this has to do with the negative connotation of the name 'Rohypnol'). In addition to that, Flunitrazepam is only sold here in boxes of 10 pills.

Oxymorphone (Opana) and Hydrocodone aren't on the market where I live either. I don't know why, and I'm curious if they are planning on bringing them on the market in the future. I sincerely hope they will, because I've heard some great stories about Opana.

I'm also extremely curious about any opiate/opioid RC's that one could obtain. I know there are some, but since new RC's are being developed every day it's hard to keep up with them. Maybe a topic about opiate/opioid RC's with a list that gets updated every so often would be great... :wink:


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    #16235848 - 05/15/12 03:21 PM (15 days, 20 hours ago)

Yeah..Hopefully..Although Opiates can be VERY addicting my man..I know you are aware of the dependance factor because you take benzos on the regular but I wouldnt be doing the right thing imo if I didnt say something,ya know :smile:
Well...Now that I think about it,you get Oxycontin anyways dont ya..I remember reading about that earlier in the thread..
And as for the Methadone high..Man its similar to other opiates as far as the high is concerned man,it just lasts wayyy longer..thats my :twocents:
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    #16240281 - 05/16/12 12:32 PM (14 days, 23 hours ago)

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Yeah..Hopefully..Although Opiates can be VERY addicting my man..I know you are aware of the dependance factor because you take benzos on the regular but I wouldnt be doing the right thing imo if I didnt say something,ya know :smile:
Well...Now that I think about it,you get Oxycontin anyways dont ya..I remember reading about that earlier in the thread..
And as for the Methadone high..Man its similar to other opiates as far as the high is concerned man,it just lasts wayyy longer..thats my :twocents:
Im not really aware of any RC opiates bro..are you??



I'm fully aware of the addictive properties of opiates, trust me. :wink:

As for opiate RC's, I know there are many out there - some aren't too hard to get, others are extremely hard to get your hands on. Some of them have very dangerous dosages as well. They are not toys to play around with, especially if one doesn't have a tolerance to opiates and/or doesn't use the right equipment (like scales).

Here's a list of some opiate RC's (there are many, many more - this is just the tip of the iceberg):

  • Viminol
  • Nortilidine
  • Dermorphin
  • O-Desmethyltramadol
  • Bromadol (BDPC - about 500 times stronger than Morphine)
  • 7-hydroxymitragynine
  • W18
  • Methopholine
  • C-8813
  • AH-7921


And these (not really RC's I suppose - it's a thin line):
  • Faxeladol
  • Profadol
  • Tapentadol
  • Ciramadol


Here's some reading material that you can read if you're interested in opiate RC's:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15760072
http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?35660-RC-Opiates-Opiods
http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?35707-Opioid-Like-Chemicals-Legally-Available-Online
http://forum.opiophile.org/archive/index.php/t-331.html?s=aa698c243beaab4a9de0974e9ccde49e

Personally, I'm especially interested in Viminol, Dermorphin, O-Desmethyltramadol, Bromadol and especially Nortilidine. I will probably order one or more of these substances in the future... :crazy2:

I hope you got something out of this information. :smile:

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    #16246619 - 05/17/12 05:26 PM (13 days, 18 hours ago)

This one seems pretty interesting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1-%284-Nitrophenylethyl%29piperidylidene-2-%284-chlorophenyl%29sulfonamide
Also the c-8813 drug seems interesting as well!!
Yeah man..U bring up a very good question imo..Why arent they any opiate rc's being made..and if they are being made,then why arent we hearing about it..
I bet its because of the federal analogue act..but still if thats the case then these two drugs I have listed should be okay to manufacture and sell,of course not for human consumption though!!


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    #16246822 - 05/17/12 06:16 PM (13 days, 17 hours ago)

well man Ive emailed my Chinese connection :P
Lets see what he has to say :cool:
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Definitely the classics, oxy etc.


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    #16248948 - 05/18/12 06:07 AM (13 days, 5 hours ago)

Ha..Your not gonna believe what my vendor buddy has said man..He said that "they plan on making w-18,it looks fairly easy to synthesize" thats their words man!!
Sweet huh..But man,that shit is so potent I would be afraid to even try it man..seriously!!
I didnt think I would ever say something like that..But this shit it POTENT!!'


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    #16250261 - 05/18/12 01:04 PM (12 days, 22 hours ago)

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Ha..Your not gonna believe what my vendor buddy has said man..He said that "they plan on making w-18,it looks fairly easy to synthesize" thats their words man!!
Sweet huh..But man,that shit is so potent I would be afraid to even try it man..seriously!!
I didnt think I would ever say something like that..But this shit it POTENT!!'



It's too potent.

I very strongly advise you to stay away from a chemical like that. W-18 is 10,000 times as strong as morphine... The possibility of overdosing is just too great, even if you use a scale and have an antagonist like Naloxone at hand. Just touching or inhaling the amount of 5 grains of salt would probably put you six feet under.

If you would order an opiate/opioid Research Chemical, choose one that's far less potent. Also, stronger doesn't equal better as far as chemicals go. Especially with such compounds.

You should check out some of the links I provided, they contain reports of people that have actually tried some of the chemicals I listed.

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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: Nonkeldolf]
    #16251630 - 05/18/12 07:05 PM (12 days, 16 hours ago)

yeah I did man..I think c-8813 would be much easier to handle than w-18..w-18 is just too potent..c-8813 on the other hand is at least potent enough to where you still have to be careful but you could manage to dose it with an accurate scale..Do you agree?? Because fentanyl is 100x stronger than morphine,and I can eat 5mg of fentanyl and get a good solid buzz..and c-8813 is 500x stronger than morphine..So I think with an accurate scale it would be able to be dosed out..what do u think man??


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    #16251634 - 05/18/12 07:06 PM (12 days, 16 hours ago)

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    #16263195 - 05/21/12 01:56 PM (9 days, 22 hours ago)

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yeah I did man..I think c-8813 would be much easier to handle than w-18..w-18 is just too potent..c-8813 on the other hand is at least potent enough to where you still have to be careful but you could manage to dose it with an accurate scale..Do you agree?? Because fentanyl is 100x stronger than morphine,and I can eat 5mg of fentanyl and get a good solid buzz..and c-8813 is 500x stronger than morphine..So I think with an accurate scale it would be able to be dosed out..what do u think man??



With an accurate scale and good safety measurements, I do think it is safe (but you have to be extremely careful). Maybe you could make a solution or put it on blotters for safe dosing, but then you'll have to find out in what fluid it is soluble. Opioid blotters would be very cool though. :cool:

Are you actually thinking of ordering some? If so, by all means keep me posted! I'm very interested in opiate/opioid Research Chemicals. :awesomenod:

Are there reports of people that have used C-8813, by the way? If not, you would be the guinea pig (which isn't a good thing) for this substance. Personally, I should start with a chemical compound that's already used by actual humans.

Anyway, keep me posted! :wink:

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P.S.: I'm sorry for the late reply, my internet was down yesterday...


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: Nonkeldolf]
    #16263952 - 05/21/12 04:35 PM (9 days, 19 hours ago)

My internet was down yesterday as well..
But yeah dude,Im gonna order some of the MT-45 as soon as my vendor has it for sell!!
Ill send ya his email when its ready..


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    #16270449 - 05/22/12 08:52 PM (8 days, 15 hours ago)

I cant find any information on the mt-45...Do u have any links regarding dosing..ect ect ??


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    #16274410 - 05/23/12 04:53 PM (7 days, 19 hours ago)

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I cant find any information on the mt-45...Do u have any links regarding dosing..ect ect ??



Apparently, MT-45 is comparable to Morphine in terms of strength. However, I have never heard of anyone actually ingesting this drug.

Here are some links that contain information about MT-45:
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/273287-piperazine-opioids
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MT-45
http://forum.opiophile.org/archive/index.php/t-4896.html

Do you know when to expect the compound? It all sounds very interesting to me. But make sure you research this chemical thoroughly before experimenting with it - but I'm pretty sure you knew that already... :wink:

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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: Nonkeldolf]
    #16306898 - 05/30/12 03:10 PM (20 hours, 52 minutes ago)

Thanks dude..And yeah I always ALWAYS do my research before I ingest any drug..Thats why Im still alive :wink:
haha..But on the mt-45 note,look at your inbox..I sent ya a PM


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