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 redgreenvines
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 Re: Physiological effects of LSD  [Re: FloydRose]
#8841895 - 08/28/08 01:53 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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i think those are all psychological or
stress related after psychological events
with the caveat being the ergot like tensions from lsd which is and ergot derived chemical.
hot and cold confusion really happens, and it happens on salvia too (even more radically, though everything on salvia is radical and on an accellerated timeline)
i am not sure that this is physiological either except for the persiration that occurs which i think is psychologically triggerred.
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Re: Physiological effects of LSD [Re: templeton1]
#8841971 - 08/28/08 02:05 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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templeton1 said:
whenever i trip on mushrooms or LSD i end up producing a lot more saliva in addition to yawning a shitload
I couldn't help but to yawn while reading this quote. Then since I am at work it set off a chain reaction of yawning.
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Re: Physiological effects of LSD [Re: redgreenvines]
#8845555 - 08/29/08 12:44 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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redgreenvines said:
i think those are all psychological or
stress related after psychological events
with the caveat being the ergot like tensions from lsd which is and ergot derived chemical.
hot and cold confusion really happens, and it happens on salvia too (even more radically, though everything on salvia is radical and on an accellerated timeline)
i am not sure that this is physiological either except for the persiration that occurs which i think is psychologically triggerred.
LSD definitely has some physiological side effects from its MOA. LSD is NOT a selective agonist, it has a very wide binding profile, which includes dopamine and histamine, both of which can cause physiological side effects. Drugs can and do have very individual reactions in different people, so the side effects will be more or less pronounced in different people.
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Re: Physiological effects of LSD [Re: FloydRose]
#8845636 - 08/29/08 01:06 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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FloydRose said:
-Seriously considering suicide
Hahaha.
If you're considering that at any time, you need help. Not something to joke about. This post is dumb because:
a) LSD shouldn't do this to you
b) It's a choice, not a physiological effect
c) People new to LSD will never try it if they read this post.
I can't believe no one said anything about that one...
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LightShedder
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I think he was joking so he could set up the stairway to heaven joke afterwards. I thought it was funny.
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Cognitive_Shift
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Orbital_Saucer said:
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FloydRose said:
-Seriously considering suicide
Hahaha.
If you're considering that at any time, you need help. Not something to joke about. This post is dumb because:
a) LSD shouldn't do this to you
b) It's a choice, not a physiological effect
c) People new to LSD will never try it if they read this post.
I can't believe no one said anything about that one...
Fist off i thought that dood was joking. Second i didnt start this thread to deter anyone from trying LSD, that wasnt the point. I was curious about the physiological effects LSD does to other trippers. Third, if anyone has second thoughts about trying LSD they shouldnt do it, LSD is not for everyone.
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Orbital_Saucer
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 Perhaps I missed the allusion.
Not that I'm for convincing anyone to try LSD who isn't ready. Just that if someone read it could make a person commit suicide, they would be given a false first impression.
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redgreenvines
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Re: Physiological effects of LSD [Re: LSDreamer]
#8845815 - 08/29/08 02:26 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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LSDreamer said:
Quote:
redgreenvines said:
i think those are all psychological or
stress related after psychological events
with the caveat being the ergot like tensions from lsd which is and ergot derived chemical.
hot and cold confusion really happens, and it happens on salvia too (even more radically, though everything on salvia is radical and on an accellerated timeline)
i am not sure that this is physiological either except for the persiration that occurs which i think is psychologically triggerred.
LSD definitely has some physiological side effects from its MOA. LSD is NOT a selective agonist, it has a very wide binding profile, which includes dopamine and histamine, both of which can cause physiological side effects. Drugs can and do have very individual reactions in different people, so the side effects will be more or less pronounced in different people.
i am glad to hear about the wide binding
still the amounts we are talking about (even in a huge dose)
are far more likely to produce great psychedelic mental effects
and are not enough to produce gross physical effects.
some people have taken thumbprints.
if lsd had real physiological effects, i think these people would have been overcome with physiological problems.
typically they just lie down.
incapable of making sense of events.
physically unharmed.
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LSDreamer
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Re: Physiological effects of LSD [Re: redgreenvines]
#8846273 - 08/29/08 08:39 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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^Side effects doesn't necessarily equate to harm. I think at thumbprint doses, you're too far gone to notice the physical effects, so even people who have taken thumbprints aren't really in a position to comment on the physical side effects of extremely high doses of LSD. Were you able to take very high doses without the subjective effects and only the physical effects, I would guess that you would encounter a lot of jitteriness, loss of fine motor control, and symptoms similar to having moderate to severe allergies like people get in the spring.
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thedudenj
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Re: Physiological effects of LSD [Re: LSDreamer]
#8846809 - 08/29/08 11:05 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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yeah i dont think i would ever want or need to take a tumb print one hit places me in the just right place so does 5 i dont see what the deal is, when im there im there taking more just depends how long i will stay and more makes it more tweeky. I think its more so about the vibes thats the important thing the drug is just a medium just like with ayahuasca
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Re: Physiological effects of LSD [Re: LSDreamer]
#8847684 - 08/29/08 02:06 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Extreme jaw tension on the come up and sometimes at other various points throughout the trip. I also feel a somewhat numbing, but very electrical feeling through my entire body. My stomach and back tense up sometimes too. I never get any mucus or anything like that though.
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thedudenj
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Re: Physiological effects of LSD [Re: mutablemass]
#8847819 - 08/29/08 02:27 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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"You all are just puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain...""
you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours
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LSDreamer
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Re: Physiological effects of LSD [Re: thedudenj]
#8847875 - 08/29/08 02:36 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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^Common side effects of dopaminergic drugs aren't imbalances in spiritual energy, they're common side effects of dopaminergic drugs.
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