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redgreenvines
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Re: Fractals... What the Fuck is Up With Them? [Re: clearsight]
#8801039 - 08/20/08 12:23 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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you don't lose construct ability - this remains but is altered because you accumulate debris from previous moments of consciousness.
this debris creates some confusion, some trails, & some smearing cues.
the combination of partial sensory debris from different time slices produces a composite which will definitely support melting constructs, twisting constructs and multidimensional constructs.
spiral accumulation and linear accumulation of partials are normal. spiral partials and fractal designs from visual input and memory are consistent with sensory cells fatiguing and regenerating. they are enhanced with cadence sequences that seem to play over each other like a complex chorus singing the same song but with delayed start times.
the only thing different when you are stoned is how long a sensory signal (from the triggerred cell(s)) will persist. (also some physical differences, like iris dilation which is secondary)
higher doses mean longer persistence. (actually just more prolonged fadeout, the spike is the same as normal - a background accumulation however will compete with new signal clarity/contrast)
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bryguy27007
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Re: Fractals... What the Fuck is Up With Them? [Re: redgreenvines]
#8801169 - 08/20/08 01:04 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I read all the links in the thread. Wow. I used to think fractals were cool, but that is before I knew what they were. Now I want to study them, understand them, appreciate them.
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numonkei
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Re: Fractals... What the Fuck is Up With Them? [Re: clearsight]
#8801211 - 08/20/08 01:21 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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clearsight said:
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Cervantes said: Why do we see spiraling, organic, geometric patterns when we are having trip visuals?
Because fractales and geometric patterns are simple objects. A fractale is one patterns replicated n times in all direction. It can written in 2 lines code: pattern description * nb of times. On the opposite, a full landscape would require 100 lines of code to be describe to a computer.
On acid, your brain loose its ability to build constructs, everything is melting. You are loosing the full landscape because your brain is loosing its ability to construct it. Literally your brain is giving you all it can process, which is 2 lines of information, fractales.
Loosing constructs can also help you to see all the bad ones you jailed yourself in.
Well, I'm not schooled on the math of fractals enough to actually weigh in, but I know a landscape, from the human standard of perspective that isn't two-dimensional, would require WAY more than 100 lines of code. It would require enough code to cause effect similar to the the human sense functions like auditory and visual centers, along with any necessary systems in the brain that assist with mental recreating of that landscape.
Or did you mean a 2-d recreation?
I like fractals. They're fun. Basically anyone who says math sucks seems to have little so say once you show them a fractal at different images, especially if the negatives are colored. Yummy.
~Monk
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DieCommie
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Re: Fractals... What the Fuck is Up With Them? [Re: numonkei]
#8801231 - 08/20/08 01:27 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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but I know a landscape, from the human standard of perspective that isn't two-dimensional
Im not sure what you mean here. Humans can only see in 2-D really, even with depth perception. Im not really sure of this context though, 
I always thought of psychedelics somehow interfering with our ability to 'smooth over' objects. While not on them, things like white walls, or brick walls go unnoticed - the brain is able to toss all that detail because its not needed. When frying you dont do that, and the brain is less able to filter our 'superfluous' information. So when I see those shapes, they are artifacts of my brains inability to selectively choose detail and information. Information overload in a way. Thats just my experience and crazy thoughts.
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