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Re: Hemp for fuel [Re: fantasylndvictm]
    #8583981 - 07/01/08 12:55 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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there is still the exact same amount of water on this planet than there was trillions of years ago, save for the bits people have split into hydrogen and oxygen




it's in oceans, in rivers that have caught on fire, in sewage systems, etc. drought is pretty prevalent today.


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Re: Hemp for fuel [Re: Epigallo]
    #8584002 - 07/01/08 01:01 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Hemp for fuel [Re: TheHappieHippies]
    #8584058 - 07/01/08 01:19 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

lol just fuckin legalize it already my god


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Re: Hemp for fuel [Re: indica]
    #8584062 - 07/01/08 01:20 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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there is still the exact same amount of water on this planet than there was trillions of years ago, save for the bits people have split into hydrogen and oxygen





Its good you don't let facts get in the way of your imagination :lol:
But when dispensing facts, you have to be more critical.

There is no trillion years ago. In fact there isn't even two dozen billion years ago. Our Universe as we know it is younger than that.

Needless to say, trillions of years ago there was no earth.

Your second part is also incorrect. Meteorites of all shapes and sizes fall down from the sky every second of every day, and there's much water among it.

Most of it vaporizes well before impacting the earth, and the fine dust rains down upon us, making our planet bigger and bigger as the years go by.

Right now a fine dust rains down on you that has everything. The dust contains iron and sulfur and gold and arsenic, carbon and uranium, and this dust comes from outer space, manufactured by stars that exploded, which has traveled billions of years through space before landing on you, or being breathed in by you. Water is among it.

And guess what, your body is made from that stuff. We truly are stardust.


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Re: Hemp for fuel [Re: TheHappieHippies]
    #8584090 - 07/01/08 01:29 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

that video is bullshit, the first model T didnt run, the ones that
did were designed to run on gasoline and modified holly carbs
were used to run either ethanol or gasoline, the basis for the
ethanol was normally corn, not hemp seed, the reason the model T
was called the "tin Lizzy" isnt because it was made of hem
reinforced plastics, it's because it was made from 'tin',
replicas are made from fiberglass, after 1926 they were made of steel

propaganda is propaganda, regardless of the ends it desires to achieve

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Re: Hemp for fuel [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #8584113 - 07/01/08 01:40 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

the vid was a mockery of propoganda, i think

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Re: Hemp for fuel [Re: Epigallo]
    #8584124 - 07/01/08 01:44 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

looked like it was trying to seriously sell the legalization of
cannabis to me and  sticking a cartoon hippie in a US flag
T-Shirt is the means at seeking the wrong target audience

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Re: Hemp for fuel [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #8584134 - 07/01/08 01:48 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

dude

did you see how whacked out he made those hippie's eyes?

it was a mockery, for sure

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Re: Hemp for fuel [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #8584229 - 07/01/08 02:26 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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that video is bullshit, the first model T didnt run, the ones that
did were designed to run on gasoline and modified holly carbs
were used to run either ethanol or gasoline, the basis for the
ethanol was normally corn, not hemp seed, the reason the model T
was called the "tin Lizzy" isnt because it was made of hem
reinforced plastics, it's because it was made from 'tin',
replicas are made from fiberglass, after 1926 they were made of steel

propaganda is propaganda, regardless of the ends it desires to achieve





Don't you know that cannabis makes truth and facts negotiable? Asides from strais of killer bud, the cannabis lobby propagates a lot of bullshit, but instead of fertilizing the debate it smears dung all over it.

"Cannabis smoking cures cancer"

"Cannabis smoking has no negative health consequences"

"no one ever died because of pot"

Theres so much nonsense going around regarding cannabis.

Stoners are hemp's worst enemy. They say its not addictive and connaisseur stuff and such, but when they run out of weed they scrape the spit-diluted dried up tar from their pipes and resmoke it. Thats some connaisseur shit right there.

If stoners ever thought about what using hemp for fuel actually meant, most of them would be completely against it.

It would mean the air would be filled with pollen of unsmokable hemp, the weed they buy would be full of seeds, seeds that grow shitty plants that are mostly hemp and little marijuana, marijuana species degenerating and going extinct as their pollen is drowned out by hemp pollen of next to no psychoactivity.

There would be no sinsemilla, unless its cultivated in an airtight tent with a pollen filter.
What would that do for the quality and price of weed?


You know what, its a sacrifice I'm willing to make. Renewable energy and shit. But I'm curious if the average stoner would "defend the environment" if it meant getting nothing but mediocre weed full of seed at a higher price.


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Re: Hemp for fuel [Re: Asante]
    #8584261 - 07/01/08 02:37 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Canada grows tons of hemp and weed without seeds. All you have to do is grow your weed away from your hemp and you are fine.

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Re: Hemp for fuel [Re: Rebirtha]
    #8584274 - 07/01/08 02:40 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Not on this scale. The pollen would be everywhere, year round.


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Re: Hemp for fuel [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #8584340 - 07/01/08 03:00 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
looked like it was trying to seriously sell the legalization of
cannabis to me and  sticking a cartoon hippie in a US flag
T-Shirt is the means at seeking the wrong target audience



Lighten up man. It was the PeaceBud...


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Re: Hemp for fuel [Re: Rebirtha]
    #8584816 - 07/01/08 04:50 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Evan said:
Canada grows tons of hemp and weed without seeds. All you have to do is grow your weed away from your hemp and you are fine.




so does the US but legalized commercial production would entail
millions of acres, not a few thousand scattered about

damn, just looked at the production charts for hep production in canada, looks like a serious drop from 2006 to 2007 because there's only a handful of places to process it

http://www1.agric.gov.ab.ca/$department/deptdocs.nsf/all/econ9631

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Re: Hemp for fuel [Re: The Professional]
    #8706734 - 07/31/08 10:45 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

it would be cool to use hemp as a fuel, would be far easier to make ethanol for gas from hemp than corn because corn takes A LOT of pesticides. I'm wondering how much oil an acre of hemp can make, because I know corn can give 50 barrels of oil. My bet on the solution is using algae for fuel. an acre of algae can give 10,000  barrels of oil.


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Re: Hemp for fuel [Re: Epigallo]
    #8707093 - 07/31/08 12:23 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

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bradley said:
now, how much land is this going to take to equate this volume with hemp seed oil? Think about it. Keep in mind we have a global shortage of potable water. How much water will it take to grow this? :what:




I thought it was important that this be properly addressed.

Hemp can require a lot of water, but its drought resistant and still uses less water than a lot of other crops we don't even ask the question over.

Grow hemp instead of thirsty cotton and rice, says union chief

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"The world wouldn't end if, instead of growing cotton, we started growing hemp," he said. "Hemp needs half the amount of water to produce the same amount of cotton, has huge potential for mitigating dry-land salinity, and can also be used to replace native trees for paper pulp."




As water resources dwindle, hemp an alternative to logging


Which could segue and balance against how much water gets used on the luxury of beef:

Cornell ecologist advises animal scientists Future water and energy shortages predicted to change face of American agriculture

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Animal agriculture is a leading consumer of water resources in the United States, Pimentel noted. Grain-fed beef production takes 100,000 liters of water for every kilogram of food. Raising broiler chickens takes 3,500 liters of water to make a kilogram of meat. In comparison, soybean production uses 2,000 liters for kilogram of food produced; rice, 1,912; wheat, 900; and potatoes, 500 liters.




Which can segue into how protein efficient milled hempseeds are, up to 50% complete protein by mass, around 37% average:

Hemp Seed Protein

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Hemp seeds have the most complete edible and usable protein in the vegetable kingdom.  Hemp seed protein can supply any diet with a vegetarian source of essential fatty acids, antioxidants, vitamins, minerals, fibre, chlorophyll, and a complete, balanced gluten-free source of the essential amino acids (including essential polyunsaturated fatty acids Omega-6 and Omega-3)




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Re: Hemp for fuel [Re: toastandjam]
    #8708162 - 07/31/08 03:48 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

But hemp still depletes the topsoil, like any crop, with one exception: algae.


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Re: Hemp for fuel [Re: zouden]
    #8708222 - 07/31/08 04:01 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Hemp for fuel [Re: zouden]
    #8708313 - 07/31/08 04:25 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

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zouden said:
But hemp still depletes the topsoil, like any crop, with one exception: algae.




Not to knock algae (see the algae thread), but:

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Hemp is not an exhaustive crop.  A recent report statesthat in Kentucky a grower in virgin soil sown to hemp
can be followed with this crop for fifteen to twenty years successively; sown then to small grain and clover, it can be grown every third year, without fertilizers, almost indefinitely.





http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/hemp/hemp_journal2.shtml

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With its high nutrient uptake, hemp could be classified as a soil destroyer, were it not for its deep root system and the practice of leaving stems, brachts, leaves and flowers in the field. Crop residue will give much of the nutrients back to the earth only if this mass is incorporated into the soil. Leaving this mass exposed on the surface, will cause oxidization of the nutrients.




http://www.hempreport.com/issues/16/newfarm16.html


I used to have some journals published from studies in the EU about how planting hemp significantly increased the yield of certain crops planted after it as well, but I can't find them right now :-\


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Re: Hemp for fuel [Re: toastandjam]
    #8708372 - 07/31/08 04:36 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

I read somewhere that scientists were trying to modify the hemp plant to contain no THC at all, thus making it legal.
I have no idea where I read it so I could be mistaken.


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Re: Hemp for fuel [Re: toastandjam]
    #8708433 - 07/31/08 04:47 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Interesting, so it's not nearly as bad as I thought! I still think algae is better for biofuel because you get a higher yield. But hemp is excellent as a fibre.


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