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Platinum
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Kratom vs Kava Kava?
#8533356 - 06/17/08 11:28 AM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ive been doing some research around here and online. Is Kratom and Kava Kava similar? I was thinking about trying it, since I cant smoke weed, or any drug, due to some legal issues.
Which would you suggest to take? Why? How are they each prepared/whats the best way to prepare them for their fullest potential? What are the differences between the two?
Thanks!
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LSDreamer
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Re: Kratom vs Kava Kava? [Re: Platinum]
#8533479 - 06/17/08 12:15 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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Kava is a muscle relaxer which inhibits MAO-B and inhibits the reuptake of noradrenaline. Kratom is an opioid agonist. They aren't really comparable in terms of effects. Kratom is stimulating at low doses and relaxing and sedating in higher doses. I've used kava a couple of times. Nice and relaxing. I enjoyed it. Never done kratom. I'd imagine that a combination of the two could be quite relaxing and moderately euphoric.
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Platinum
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Re: Kratom vs Kava Kava? [Re: LSDreamer]
#8544764 - 06/20/08 02:43 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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OK, so.... If I choose to buy Kratom, which should I get from this page? http://www.iamshaman.com/eshop/10Browse.asp?Category=Kratom
If I choose to buy Kava, which should I get from this page? http://www.iamshaman.com/eshop/10Browse.asp?Category=Kava%20Kava
Also thinkin about getting HWR...
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Re: Kratom vs Kava Kava? [Re: Platinum]
#8544897 - 06/20/08 03:22 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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Platinum said: OK, so.... If I choose to buy Kratom, which should I get from this page? http://www.iamshaman.com/eshop/10Browse.asp?Category=Kratom
If I choose to buy Kava, which should I get from this page? http://www.iamshaman.com/eshop/10Browse.asp?Category=Kava%20Kava
Also thinkin about getting HWR...
if your looking for something to trip on I'd go with HWBR seeds. If you want an opiate like effect go with kratom. Kava is nice to take if you have insomnia to relax. I remember when it was easily obtainable OTC I haven't seen in in stores for quite sometime. shit i remember back in 1996 when codeine was over the counter (i swear) i had a whole bottle no shit!!
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Re: Kratom vs Kava Kava? [Re: shroom_me]
#8545625 - 06/20/08 08:33 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'd compare Kava to benzos and Kratom to opiates; two very different effect profiles. I like Kava for chilling out, but it's nowhere near as powerful as Kratom. Don't underestimate Kratom, it can give you a real strong nod.
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Re: Kratom vs Kava Kava? [Re: astronaut]
#8546369 - 06/21/08 02:47 AM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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just smoke weed douche
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LSDreamer
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Re: Kratom vs Kava Kava? [Re: shroom_me]
#8546860 - 06/21/08 09:06 AM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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shroom_me said: just smoke weed douche
Enjoying kratom makes you a douche?
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shroom_me
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Re: Kratom vs Kava Kava? [Re: LSDreamer]
#8547451 - 06/21/08 12:40 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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LSDreamer said:
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shroom_me said: just smoke weed douche
Enjoying kratom makes you a douche?
no it doesn't, your just a douche.
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Re: Kratom vs Kava Kava? [Re: shroom_me]
#8547457 - 06/21/08 12:41 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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shroom_me said:
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LSDreamer said:
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shroom_me said: just smoke weed douche
Enjoying kratom makes you a douche?
no it doesn't, your just a douche.
What the hell is your problem? Nobody in this thread said anything against anybody except you.
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Re: Kratom vs Kava Kava? [Re: LSDreamer]
#8547480 - 06/21/08 12:50 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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you know what, your right! sorry my bad, i originally meant it in a joking way.
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Re: Kratom vs Kava Kava? [Re: Platinum]
#8547511 - 06/21/08 01:02 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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I would suggest at least trying both. In a way it's like asking someone to describe the differences between coffee and beer.
I started with Kava Kava by making some smoothies out of it. It's like your mind is drunk but you body is functioning perfectly. I would put four spoon fulls into a blender with soy milk, ice, a banana and any other fruit available. I've tried making teas but with no success.
Kratom feels like an opiate, but without the stomach ache afterward. It takes about an hour to kick in and depending on the dose the effects vary I've noticed. I usually put 2g in a cup, fill with water, drink water as fast as I can and repeat this until there is no more powder in the cup. Usually takes 3-4 cups of water (12oz). This is just my current method and I've only done Kratom and handful of times. I'm interested in finding something new.
This doesn't benefit you, but I've found that if I smoke while taking either one the effects are intensified. This is usually expected.
Good luck.
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Re: Kratom vs Kava Kava? [Re: Platinum]
#8547514 - 06/21/08 01:03 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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I use the chai mix for the Kava and the 15x of Kratom. I would like to try some of the other products still.
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Re: Kratom vs Kava Kava? [Re: geedorah]
#8547516 - 06/21/08 01:03 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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kratom by far is better u need like 2 ounces of kava to get an equivalent high off of 10g of kratom they are different highs obviously but kratom is better in everyway high, dose, preperation, price, easy to take
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Re: Kratom vs Kava Kava? [Re: Coaster]
#8547520 - 06/21/08 01:05 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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I agree that Kratom is better. Kava is something I would drink before going to class just to feel the relaxing effects. I usually save the Kratom for rainy day fun.
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