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em_bre_O
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Selling Venom
#8377784 - 05/08/08 02:06 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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What are the repercussions of selling snake venom? I catch W.Moc. and Eastern D.Rattlesnakes all the time ......and a few Massaguas,Pygmy Rattlers and copperheads. All of witch milk super easy.
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Re: Selling Venom [Re: em_bre_O]
#8377804 - 05/08/08 02:11 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Guantanamo bay, you will probably be labeled as a suspected terrorist.
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what psychoactive drug does snake venom contain?
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it is only psychoactive if you inject it into your artery.
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I see no problems other than it's quite unstable. You'll want to do the milking in front of your flowhood, and milk into sterile jars.
The commercially available venom from Sigma Scientific is freeze dried and shipped frozen. RR
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Sorry I`m new.
Is this to imobilize the cell Or weaken the cell wall to exchange genetic material?
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RogerRabbit said: I see no problems other than it's quite unstable. You'll want to do the milking in front of your flowhood, and milk into sterile jars.
The commercially available venom from Sigma Scientific is freeze dried and shipped frozen. RR
RR, do you still use snake venom to cross strains?
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Re: Selling Venom [Re: Neobean]
#8383120 - 05/09/08 08:25 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'll be working with it again soon, but in attempts to cross species, not strains. RR
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MycoAu
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Are they actually selling that to just anybody (with an account, of course) that happens to ask for it? Would be nice anyway. Part # for the specific type you use?
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RogerRabbit
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Re: Selling Venom [Re: MycoAu]
#8383198 - 05/09/08 08:52 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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It's a pretty intensive clearing process before they'll let you order purified venom. You'll have to be 'interviewed' by at least three different people, one of whom I suspected was law enforcement. Think about it. . .it's the perfect murder weapon. RR
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Neobean
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RogerRabbit said: I'll be working with it again soon, but in attempts to cross species, not strains. RR
I imagine it might have already been done, but will you try to cross cubes with panaeolus? How long is the crossing process and how do you know if you have succeeded, besides final results of course...?
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Re: Selling Venom [Re: Neobean]
#8385044 - 05/10/08 12:01 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ok, so the venom is probably going to be a long time waiting. There is another thread in which somebody is suggesting the use of Salicylic acid. It's cheap and plentiful without all the hassle of venom. But... does it work? I have no idea, but somebody out there has the impression that it does.
Does anybody know?
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em_bre_O
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Re: Selling Venom [Re: MycoAu]
#8385171 - 05/10/08 12:47 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Salicylic acid.....I think they read about it being used in plant test.
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Re: Selling Venom [Re: em_bre_O]
#8387686 - 05/11/08 12:17 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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This is driving me nuts.
I have heard about this whole snake venom thing, and heard that its complete bullshit...
What does snake venom have anything to do with Mushrooms?
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Cryogenicz said: This is driving me nuts.
I have heard about this whole snake venom thing, and heard that its complete bullshit...
What does snake venom have anything to do with Mushrooms?
-Graham
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Re: Selling Venom [Re: em_bre_O]
#8391729 - 05/12/08 06:39 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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RogerRabbit said: I'll be working with it again soon, but in attempts to cross species, not strains. RR
oh man you have to keep us posted. or are you just gonna hide everything untill your done? What are you trying pans and cubes ?
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Re: Selling Venom [Re: em_bre_O]
#8392042 - 05/12/08 09:51 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
em_bre_O said:
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Cryogenicz said: This is driving me nuts.
I have heard about this whole snake venom thing, and heard that its complete bullshit...
What does snake venom have anything to do with Mushrooms?
-Graham
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It seems like crap to me, but I haven't done any research on it... so.
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Re: Selling Venom [Re: grod31]
#8392044 - 05/12/08 09:52 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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the only way to keep it stable for extended lengths of time is freeze-drying and low temps. i posted this in another venom thread, the active compounds in rattlesnake venom are proteases that chew up proteins, but being proteins themselves they "auto-digest" (think auto-immune diseases) and slowly degrade themselves to zero activity. but , i remember seeing videos on snake venom banks where they pull liquid from fridge-looking things, so who knows. perhaps you could call up one such place and ask about storage. look into buying a lyophilizer (free-dryer), but you need liquid nitrogen to do this.
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em_bre_O
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Quote:
Cryogenicz said:
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em_bre_O said:
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Cryogenicz said: This is driving me nuts.
I have heard about this whole snake venom thing, and heard that its complete bullshit...
What does snake venom have anything to do with Mushrooms?
-Graham
NEVER THOUGHT I'D BE TELLING YOU this........search!!
It seems like crap to me, but I haven't done any research on it... so.
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Well then if you haven’t done your research then why the hell are you talking... No one cares of you think its crap because if you took oh I don’t know... 45 seconds and searched you could see it’s got a rather significant role in mycology. Maybe not cultivation, but the genetic part when it comes to strain or species crossing absolutely. Not that I know much myself but I do know it has a role and more than anything I know not to voice my opinions about things I know jack shit about. Just my 2cents...
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Re: Selling Venom [Re: em_bre_O]
#8436842 - 05/23/08 01:01 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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After being away for a couple years, I'm amazed by all the new info.
Snake venom hybrids? Magnificent, haha
I'm gonna look into salicylic acid instead though, since it appears it may be able to be used for the same purpose.
I wonder how realistic a weilii/cubensis hybrid would be?
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Re: Selling Venom [Re: MycoAu]
#8437117 - 05/23/08 02:21 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nicotinic Acid (niacin) has also been used in fungal crossing. Just make sure its actually nicotinic acid because alot of places use "flush-free" niacin which is usually Inositol hexaniacinate.
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